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YouTube Censors Think Tank For Disagreeing With WHO

Big Tech Removes a Video From Prominent Think Tank For Contradicting WHO on Coronavirus

YouTube, which is owned by Google, has removed a video by a leading think tank merely because it features views at odds with the current position of the World Health Organisation. Townhall has more:

The Hoover Institution at Stanford University is one of the most prominent think tanks in America, and its fellows are some the most accomplished in their respective fields. But that doesn’t matter to Big Tech. YouTube recently removed a June 23 interview its senior fellow Dr. Scott Atlas did with Hoover because it goes against the World Health Organisation’s position on the Wuhan coronavirus. …

Atlas has continued to be a much-needed voice against the prevailing coronavirus wisdom. In a recent op-ed, he reminded readers that “only 0.2% of U.S. deaths have been people younger than 25, and 80% have been in people over 65; the average fatality age is 78.” We’ve come a long way since Spring and yet the economy isn’t fully open, he said. 

“While the lockdown may have been justified at the start, when little data was known, we know far more about the virus today,” Atlas concluded. “It’s time we use all we have learned and all we have done to re-open our schools and our economy safely and get back to restoring America.”

It is perverse to ban anything that happens to be at odds with the WHO’s current position, not only because it is crucial to hear more than one point of view, but because the WHO can’t stop changing its mind. Let’s review the year so far:

  • On January 14th, Maria Van Kerkhove of WHO said: “It is possible that there is limited human-to-human transmission, potentially among families, but it is very clear right now that we have no sustained human-to-human transmission.” The same day, WHO’s Twitter account stated that: “Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission.”
  • On March 3rd, the WHO Director-General stated that the death rate of the new coronavirus was 3.4%.
  • On March 17th, the WHO published a fact sheet that said of the new coronavirus: “Pre-symptomatic transmission… does not appear to be a major driver of transmission.”
  • On June 5th, the WHO dropped its previous opposition to general mask wearing, though it still stated that mask use by the general public is “not yet supported by high quality or direct scientific evidence”. Newsnight‘s Deborah Cohen later tweeted: “We have been told by various sources [that the] WHO committee reviewing the evidence had not backed masks but they recommended them due to political lobbying.” She said the BBC had then put this to the WHO, which did not deny it. 
  • On June 8th, Maria Van Kerkhove of WHO said spread from asymptomatic and presymptomatic people does occur but is “very rare” and recommended focusing on tracing and isolating symptomatic people to better attack the outbreak. That was later described as a “gaffe”, which fits Michael Kinsley’s famous definition: “A gaffe is when a politician tells the truth – some obvious truth he isn’t supposed to say.”

As we’ve noted before, the poor drudge employed by YouTube to keep track of the WHO’s daily U-turns so they can make sure nothing on the platform is at odds with the latest advice must be having a nervous breakdown.

Find the interview with Dr Scott Atlas that YouTube doesn’t want you to see here.

Dr Atlas can be added to the growing list of distinguished people YouTube has censored. We can add Michael Levitt (in discussion with Toby) and Lionel Shriver, winner of the Nobel Prize and Orange Prize respectively. Who can you add? Email us here and we will publish a list tomorrow.

Stop Press: Could the deletion have anything to do with the fact that Dr Scott Atlas is currently serving as an adviser to President Donald Trump on the White House Coronavirus Task Force? No, of course, not. It’s an entirely neutral decision. Google would never do anything so nakedly partisan…

Local Lockdowns – Where’s the Data?

Sir Graham Brady MP, Chairman of the 1922 Committee, and lockdown sceptic

Dr Helen Westwood, a GP in Trafford, has sent us a copy of the letter she sent on Friday to her MP, Sir Graham Brady, about the total lack of transparency she found when querying the lockdown measures imposed on her area.

I find it reassuring to know that you share many of my concerns and are working hard to ensure that there is proper Parliamentary scrutiny of the actions of this Government.

Sadly the good news regarding the lifting of Trafford’s local lockdown was short-lived to say the least. On Tuesday September 1st all Trafford GP practices were instructed to send out an SMS to all patients stating:

“COVID cases are increasing in Trafford and with schools going back it’s really important that everyone protects themselves and their families. Please remember to follow social distancing, wear face coverings in public places and on public transport, wash your hands regularly and if you have symptoms book a test on www.gov.uk/get-coronavirus-test.  Or ring 119. If your test is positive you need to self isolate for 10 and your close contacts for 14 days”

Later that same day the communications officer at Trafford CCG wrote to all practices with his regular “Clinicians’ Briefing”. In this he said that in Trafford our infection rates had dropped since mid-July and were currently stable.

I emailed him that evening to ask him to clarify whether cases were rising or had been falling and were currently stable as I did not want to be sending out misleading information to my patients. He replied saying that there is a lag between the official published figures referred to in the Clinicians’ Briefing and unverified data available to the public health team who had asked for the SMS to be sent out. 

This caused me some concern as it was not made clear to the Trafford GP practices that the data were unverified. I therefore asked if I could see the data. Someone in Public Health in Trafford, has helpfully sent me a link to the Trafford data lab dashboard but unfortunately this does not have any information regarding whether the positive test results relate to people with symptoms or not. This is essential to know to interpret the results. It has been widely reported, in both the medical and lay press, that there is a significant concern about false positives at low prevalence levels. I have asked for information regarding symptoms in those tested as well what cycle threshold our labs are using and whether this is being reported. I have also queried whether positive tests are being repeated as per the latest guidance from the Government. I have been asking for this information for a week now and have been passed through various individuals at the council and the CCG. I am still waiting for the information. It is alarming that the local lockdown is still in force in Trafford and yet the people advising on this policy are not able to provide the information when asked for it.

I am dismayed by the latest announcement from No. 10 that as of Monday September 14th it will be illegal to meet in groups of more than six people. The people of this country voted in a Conservative Government allegedly led by a libertarian. I cannot imagine a more authoritarian regime (although I am thankful I don’t live in Australia). Now a family of five cannot legally meet up with two grandparents. A family of six can meet no-one. How can this benefit society? What sort of risk assessment was undertaken before imposing such restrictions? Has any regard been given to child development, mental health or the loneliness of our elderly? Furthermore, given that these arbitrary restrictions vary so much from country to country within the UK, does this Government believe that people will adhere to these impositions?

I feel there has been definite “mission creep” in our country’s response to this Covid situation. Initially we were asked to stay home to “flatten the curve” and avoid overwhelming the NHS. Now we no longer concern ourselves with hospital admissions or deaths. We are only interested in “cases” which are detected using flawed methods. We have used case data to implement mandatory masks on public transport, shops and schools with a complete absence of evidence for their effectiveness. Now we are no longer allowed to socialise in groups larger than six. Where is this all going to end? What is our aim with these policies?

What sort of risk assessment was undertaken before imposing such restrictions?

We know the answer to that question. Zip, zilch, nada.

Sir Graham is something of a sceptic himself, describing the Trafford lockdown as “a massive infringement of normal civil liberties” which “should be lifted as soon as possible“. Here’s hoping he will be part of a big push for freedom among Conservative and other MPs in Parliament.

BBC Propaganda

We received an email from John Church, a former oil and gas engineer.

I don’t know if you have seen the recent news article from the BBC about a new record for global infections, “WHO reports record daily rise in new infections“.

The British people are in a lot of trouble with this COVID-19 situation right now. Not the virus itself, of course, but our ongoing fear and inability to free ourselves. A large part of the blame for that can be laid at the foot of the door of the BBC. The above story is a great example. It is truly egregious that they can publish something which is quite simply naked propaganda. A trivially true fact – “The World Health Organisation has recorded a record one-day rise in the number of new coronavirus infections, with 307,930 reported over 24 hours” – is totally bastardised into a story of catastrophe when the truth is the very opposite of what they say. And it is so blatant. The third sentence in their piece states that the biggest rises are in India, the USA and Brazil. Again, that may be trivially true if they compared September 11th with September 10th, but it is wrong to state this without providing the context that the positive case numbers in the USA and Brazil have almost halved in the last month or so, in spite of all the testing. The real story here is that the epidemic is all but over in those big countries. Global deaths are down 15% in the last month with hardly any countries left showing both rising deaths and cases. India and possibly Indonesia being large population exceptions, but they will also turn, unless there is some reason why the disease behaves differently there. And at 930k deaths the current global survival rate is around 99.99%. This isn’t even an epidemic.

Cafe Without Customers

A reader wonders whether Costa Coffee in Poole has really thought through its business model.

Finding ourselves with a few hours free on a Saturday afternoon and with five and nine-year-old boys in need of exercise we hit upon the idea of scooting from Upton Country park round Holes Bay to the Costa Coffee at Lifeboat Quay in Poole. It’s a mistake we won’t make again.

Costa Coffee appears to have employed someone with the sole mission of making the whole process as difficult and rule-bound as possible.

Approaching the door we were pleased to see two tables outside at which we could sit and enjoy the sunshine.  But no, each table had only two chairs and stern notices that chairs warned us they were “NOT to be moved”. Our attention was then drawn to the profusion of notices by the door, so many that we missed the sign that the door was now the exit and made our first mistake by entering the empty shop! After being warned by staff it was the exit we then wandered around the complex trying to work out where the entrance was.

Upon finding the entrance we were met with a prominent sign stating only one person from each group was to enter the (empty) coffee shop to order unless we were drinking and eating in. As we intended to sit down in the shop I went to order (masked up, as instructed) with our two boys whilst my wife made the mistake of sitting down at a table. Before I had a chance to order, shouting through my mask into the sealed perspex case the baristas now occupy, I was asked where we were sitting. When I pointed that out I was told that, no that would not be possible, as my wife had selected a two-person table. This puzzled me as there was a bench seat that the boys could have happily occupied barely two feet away. They could not have disturbed others or broken any social distancing as we were the only people in the café. When I  pointed out the bench the barista told me she would have to get the permission of the regional manager. She then disappeared leaving me in stunned silence. (The regional manager? Really?)

She returned a few seconds later to inform me that only chairs could be used, not benches. This was in spite of the fact that half the tables and chairs were already marked with do not use signs and the café was empty. (I was beginning to understand why.)

The pre-order arrangements weren’t over yet. Before we could order we would have to find a table. As the only four-person table was covered in debris from its last occupants that would have to be prepared before we could order and we would have to wait.

As we only went in for a quick drink and biscuit and the dirty four-person table was in a dingy corner I then decided we would get takeout and sit on the grass outside.

Of course, this was also wrong, as by switching to take out we were then breaking not only the rule of sitting at the wrong capacity table but only one of us should have been inside placing the orders and the other three should not be in the shop.

Did I mention the café was empty? 

More Cases, More Testing

The unprecedented new restrictions on our freedoms this week were justified largely by the “surge” in “cases” in the week before, as pictured. But testing also “surged” that week. Here’s what the positive rate graph looks like.

A rise, certainly. But relatively small. And deaths are still almost zero and trending downwards, and there is only a gentle rise in hospital admissions in some areas. Yet for some reason the Government continues to refer primarily to the raw case data. It’s not because they’re trying to frighten us is it?

The Plague in 1834

A reader has been leafing through Great Cities Through Travellers’ Eyes edited by Peter Furtado and found an entry by Alexander Kinglake who encountered the plague in Istanbul in 1834.

All the while that I stayed at Constantinople the plague was prevailing, but not with any degree of violence…. The Europeans during the prevalence of the plague, if they are forced to venture into the streets, will carefully avoid the touch of every human being whom they pass. Their conduct in the respect shows them strongly in contrast with the ‘true believers’: the Moslem stalks on serenely, as though he were under the eye of his God, and were ‘equal to either fate’; the Franks go crouching and slinking from death, and some (those chiefly of French extraction) will strongly strive to fence out destiny with shining capes of oilskin!…

As for me, I soon got ‘compromised’… Faithfully promising to shun the touch of all imaginable substances, however enticing, I set off very cautiously, and held my way uncompromised till I reached the water’s edge; but before my caique was quite ready some rueful-looking fellows came rapidly shambling down the steps with a plague-stricken corpse, which they were going to bury among the faithful on the other side of the water. I contrived to be so much in the way of this brisk funeral, that I was not only touched by the men bearing the body, but also, I believe, by the foot of the dead man, as it hung lolling out of the bier. This accident gave me such a strong interest in denying the soundness of the contagion theory, acting upon my own convenient view of the matter, I went wherever I chose, without taking any serious pains to avoid a touch…

Round-Up

Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers

Three today: “Long Way From Freedom” by The Trews, “Hysteria” by Def Leppard, and “Enough is enough” by Donna Summer.

Love in the Time of Covid

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums that are now open, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We’ve also just introduced a section where people can arrange to meet up for non-romantic purposes. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.

There’s a problem with new user registrations on the site for those trying to register so they can comment. We’re working to fix it and we’ll let you know as soon as we’ve done that. Shouldn’t be long.

“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a permanent slot down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (now showing it will arrive between Oct 16th to Oct 26th, so not terribly helpful). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £3.99 from Etsy here.

Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face nappies in shops here (now over 32,000).

A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.

And here’s a round-up of the scientific evidence on the effectiveness of mask (threadbare at best).

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allanmacrae
allanmacrae
6 years ago

I published ‘way back on 21March2020 that there should be NO LOCKDOWN for Covid-19. It is increasingly obvious to competent scientists that NO LOCKDOWN was the correct call. Almost all countries EXCEPT Sweden fell for the full-Gulag lockdown – they all could have been a lot smarter and saved trillions of dollars and harm to billions of lives.

The danger of Covid-19 was overestimated by orders of magnitude – the full-Gulag lockdown was NOT necessary. I published in March 2020 that Covid-19 was not a very dangerous flu except for the very elderly and infirm. Covid-19 was less dangerous than the 2017-2018 seasonal flu that nobody even remembers.

The current obsession with testing and emphasizing very-scary “case numbers” is also wrong. Forget vaccines – every flu in history has died because herd immunity was reached. We want herd immunity and we are preventing it with this lockdown nonsense. All the lockdown and distancing did was prolong the life of this virus and possibly allow it to mutate…  AND trashed the economy. The full-Gulag lockdown was dead wrong – the only remaining question is was it a deliberate scam – based on the evidence, it probably was.

PLANDEMIC OR SCAMDEMIC?
https://youtu.be/X6pzXrEBqR0

Csaba
Csaba
6 years ago

I cannot stop thinking that the government just uses its newly got greater power and control on much more money to extend this period and trying to get even more power and control over more money. They simply use bbc and all the resources they have. It must be difficult for them to realise that the period is over when they got this extraordinary power. I hope they don’t use this power to push back their political opponents.

Lee23
Lee23
6 years ago

Morning papers are not especially positive for the Government and shock of shocks. Archbishop of Canterbury has finally broken ranks and stated control should be decentralised.

nfw
nfw
6 years ago

Just love those new “cases” Must be lots of grandmas dying. Test me and you will find years of inoculations either deliberate or picked up from flus and colds various (bet that’s what the “tests” are finding anyway), smallpox, typhoid, tetanus, cholera, yellow fever, malaria and all the other goodies we face daily. As ever, TB gets a free pass despite killing some 1.5 million in 2018. Just a continuing con by stupid but power hungry politicians who haven’t the guts to admit it’s all been one big mistake and it’s over. Great research here: https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/09/10/covid-diagnostic-test-worst-test-ever-devised/

Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
6 years ago
Reply to  nfw

A good link. The shame is that the PCR test is a useful tool and before I retired it was used in my work. But to use it well does need good understanding of what it can and cannot do. It’s outlandish use in this virus hoo-haa seems a classic situation of politicians and administrators being spooked by a virus and dazzled in the headlights of the blinkered over enthusiastic scientist offering them an instant solution. So they are using it like it was a speed camera, either you were speeding or you were not, black/white but it cannot be used in this way.
It does grate with me when, for understandable reasons people say the PCR test is useless, when it is, in fact, very useful but not in the way it is being used in this virus hoo-haa. As though you were using a hammer to drive in screws or a screwdriver to drive in nails. The question is, as this has become such a monster, how do we stop it?

Arkansas
Arkansas
6 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

It does grate with me when, for understandable reasons people say the PCR test is useless, when it is, in fact, very useful but not in the way it is being used in this virus hoo-haa. 

I think that when people say “the PCR test is useless”, they are right, because by “the” PCR test they mean this PCR test: the technical aspects of this instance of a PCR test combined with the way in which it is being targeted, performed and then reported upon.

Speed cameras are useless if they are low resolution and pointing at the sky: every cloud is guilty. So we should quarantine the daytime (darkness seems to stop the infection).

Dom Baron
Dom Baron
6 years ago

On the news just heard an ‘expert’ highlighting that over 60% of British public would accept a night time curfew. Clearly I don’t know our country at all. So it turns out that the myths around the ‘stiff British upper lip’ and ‘keep calm and carry on’ are actually just propaganda that we’ve believed into. The reality is very different. When this saga finally ends, let us make a pact to never criticize other countries and accept that these slogans are merely to be sold to the gullible tourists in souvenir shops.

Ned of the Hills
Ned of the Hills
6 years ago
Reply to  Dom Baron

That’s what I keep wondering. Whatever happened to the mantra: “Keep Calm and Carry On”? Can mugs, tea towels, and tee shirts still be displaying the slogan. A apt slogan today would be: “Stay At Home and Quake in your Boots”.

We can’t function with the level of anxiety that is constantly generated. A child sneezes in class and the whole school closes.

Basics
Basics
6 years ago

devi sridhar. The standard of a public health globalist is very low. Her lack of ownership is noticable.
Drawing public attention to it seems correct.

She pins this tweet:
“And here’s your reminder as we head into the weekend that this is a super-hard time for most people. It’s a crap situation- SARS-CoV-2 is a nasty & wily virus. It’s ok to grieve for how life & the world has changed. And to take things one day and one week at a time.”

Then Tweets this:
“The only certainty about the next 6 months (incl. Christmas) is uncertainty ahead. If you’re struggling with your mental health, know that almost everyone on the planet is in the same basic shitsoup (various flavours of it). Helps to focus on the day & the week ahead”

And when asked this:
“The mental health of people have been deliberately targeted by SPI-B of SAGE to ramp up fear and create mental ill health. Do you support this highly unethical policy which has harmed people and led to suicides?”

Devi is silent and does not answer.

Richard O
Richard O
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Reality and truth will eventually catch up with all of these non-entities. The only question is how many of us will they take down with them.

Calling a virus “nasty and wily” is the absolute nadir of all the nonsense I have heard so far this year. Yet this puerile mentality is driving state policy the world over, and worryingly it seems to be getting particularly bad here in the UK.

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

A fine assessment. I am trying to keep my comments to myself, I feel a deep unease walking the streets with monsters like her on them.

I feel it’s right to point this stuff out – the immaturity of a ‘professor’ in what ought to be career defining days. But it is also wrong to feed it’s ego of noteriety.

The language she uses – as a professional is embarrassing. Doesn’t miami have any schools? Doesn’t Edinburgh University have any standards? I’ll shut up.

Richard O
Richard O
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

The “authorities” and their billions of fanatical followers are breaking so many laws, both of man and nature, that the new society they are trying to build is unsustainable.

Ultimately the only people that will survive are those of us who do not follow the cult. Many of us won’t make it (and I instinctively know I am in this number), but enough of us will to ensure that humanity will prevail.

BTLnewbie
BTLnewbie
6 years ago

Apologies if this has been alluded to before but to my mind it is headline news. It is re figures for those in hospital in Scotland with Covid (many thanks to the tireless Basics for picking it up) – how 262 can become 48 at the stroke of a pen:
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/6048912/coronavirus-scotland-nicola-sturgeon-hospital-covid/
Under the old measure – which included patients who had recovered from coronavirus, but were still in hospital for unrelated conditions – there would have been 262 people logged today.
But the First Minister said a “new and more accurate measure” showed the current figure was 48 patients.
…and this is Sturgeon saying this (through gritted teeth – not a happy sight) as she was forced to recalculate the figures by Carl Heneghan.
Quote again from Sturgeon:
“we have been reporting a higher number of hospital cases than is probably justified”

hotrod
hotrod
6 years ago
Reply to  BTLnewbie

This should be front and centre of every newspaper tomorrow to ensure it is corrected for all nations.

B Boru
B Boru
6 years ago
Reply to  hotrod
Chris Hune
Chris Hune
6 years ago
Reply to  hotrod

Don’t hold your breath! Have the BBC covered it? I rarely watch it so can anybody tell me?

Chris Hune
Chris Hune
6 years ago
Reply to  BTLnewbie

Heneghan is on to them. They must hate him. What baffles me, is what sort of arrogance does it take to think that you might get away with such brazen dishonesty? He is looking at the ‘Covid admissions’ now which is very pleasing. I have been saying for a while that they are waiting for the ‘rise in hospitalisations’ to materialise, based on all the new (likely false) ‘positives in the community. It is inevitable that as people are hospitalised for all sorts of reasons they will claim they are ‘Covid’ even if they are victims of road accidents or heart attacks. That may have been thwarted, and may be behind the swift change in tack and refocus on testing ‘only those with symptoms’.

Achilles
Achilles
6 years ago
Reply to  Chris Hune

Yes I think only testing with symptoms is part of this process as well as the simple fact they just don’t have enough tests. What it will mean is that the number of cases will go down but the proportion of positives to tests will go up. So I fully expect them to move from number of cases to proportion of positive tests as the new figure of fear. Basically they’re just looking for any figure that goes up to latch on to to justify their bizarre policies.

Jenny
Jenny
6 years ago
Reply to  BTLnewbie

More reasons t love Heneghan – not that we needed any!

Basics
Basics
6 years ago

Another very clear article covering the subject of masks bad and why. May be useful to share.

“A classic fallacious argument: “If masks don’t work, then why do surgeons wear them?”

https://www.sott.net/article/438827-A-classic-fallacious-argument-If-masks-dont-work-then-why-do-surgeons-wear-them

“Based on extensive review and analysis, there is no question in my mind that healthy people should not be wearing surgical or cloth masks. Nor should we be recommending universal masking of all members of the population.”

Barney McGrew
Barney McGrew
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

If surgeons use scalpels to make people better, why shouldn’t I?

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  Barney McGrew

In one!

jrsm
jrsm
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

And although surgeons wear them, not all agree they are necessary. In fact, some studies have shown no difference in rates of postoperative infection regardless of whether the surgeon is wearing a mask or not.

Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
6 years ago

Curiouser and curiouser!” Cried Alice In the latest ONS weekly death stats 78 people died from Covid 19 that is about 1.2 people for every million who live in the UK.
Although hospital cases have gone up a bit and some of the data is dodgy nonetheless 972 people are stated to be Covid 19 patients in hospital, so 0.0015% of the UK population are hospitalised with Covid 19.

Let the jury consider their verdict,” the King said, for about the twentieth time that day. “No, no!” said the Queen. “Sentence first—verdict afterwards
On the news tonight hordes of people are panicking about testing for the disease that as noted above seems to be doing very little, children are being excluded from school for coughing, which children always do at school.

“Oh, you can’t help that,’ said the cat. ‘We’re all mad here.”
And so you see if you stop trying to make sense of it all
“I’m not crazy, my reality is just different than yours”
and think of it as a giant re-make of Alice in Wonderland, it all makes perfect sense.
Goodnight

NappyFace
NappyFace
6 years ago

If we are not correct in our assessment.

Then either we are all deluded fools, or we’re missing something that’s staring right at us.

The measures make no sense. They might do if the disease was very dangerous. As we understand it, it is in the same ballpark as a bad flu. Yet flatten the the curve has become zero Covid. Expert dissenting voices appear to be studiously ignored both by policy makers, and some of the press (though more on the right are allowing dissenting voices).

So is it more dangerous than we realise. ie it’s a long term disease, and that’s what they’re worried about? The lab made stuff turns out to be true, etc?

Or do they just want to extend this up until the US election, as that is the only way they think they can get rid of Trump?

For Boris and co, the confusion suits them as 1) they can do what they want on Brexit whilst the limelight is elsewhere. And 2) perhaps they believe the best way forward for Britain is to pull it all down, so they can rebuild it as they like? So no amount of destruction will be… Read more »

JohnB
JohnB
6 years ago
Reply to  NappyFace

Or it’s a planned global social, economic, and political reset. 🙂

Sleep well.

B Boru
B Boru
6 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

Nail. On. Head. 🙂

Worth a watch, from an Aussie perspective but the message is universal.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ypw7fEhm4Bif/

Night Night

Telpin
Telpin
6 years ago

This may be a stupid question but what has happened to Co Vid deaths and hospitalisations in China? Everything seems to have gone quiet but is it really realistic that they’d only have around 4 k deaths across the whole country and no ongoing cases? Has anyone been following – or have they just stop recording and has everyone gone back to ‘normal’ living?? I’m curious.

hotrod
hotrod
6 years ago
Reply to  2 pence

Some real sad “give it two weeks” comments on the comments.

There really are some sick and jealous people in the world.

Lisa from Toronto
Lisa from Toronto
6 years ago
Reply to  Telpin

I’ve been asking that question for ages. It makes no sense that they’re packing thousands in a pool in Wuhan and nobody’s wearing masks any longer. Where’s the “second wave”? Where was the first wave??? They have half the deaths we have here in Canada, which is simply unbelievable. The MSM is prattling on about “cases” instead of doing some real investigative journalism.

tee ell
tee ell
6 years ago

I was having a play with making a false positives calculator, it’s very basic but it sort of gets the idea across https://coronacalculator.azurewebsites.net/

Tenchy
Tenchy
6 years ago
Reply to  tee ell

Nice one. Thanks.

tonyspurs
tonyspurs
6 years ago

Liam Gallagher on top form
https://vk.com/video-194645035_456240588

JohnB
JohnB
6 years ago
Reply to  tonyspurs

He’s trying absolutely anything to keep his mind off Liverpool FC (Premier League Champions, you know. 🙂 ).

Nah, seriously, good on him. More brains than most celebs.

hotrod
hotrod
6 years ago

Does anyone have latest updates on France and Spain?

Also noted again that Germany is NEVER mentioned by Hancock….

NickR
NickR
6 years ago
Reply to  hotrod
hotrod
hotrod
6 years ago
Reply to  NickR

Thank you. Telling….

Carrie
Carrie
6 years ago
Reply to  hotrod

I just read on Twitter that Matt Hancock in the HoC today did not give a straight answer to the question regarding the criteria that would be required to remove the “rule of 6”. That means he can do what he wants until he’s good and ready..

Basicsh
Basicsh
6 years ago

Edinburgh is a step away from ‘increased lockdown measures’ due to a ‘spike’ in ‘cases’, according to sturgeon.

The rationale for Edinburgh not already being lockedup is that they claim the track and trace data shows no pattern or ‘particular driver’.

Hadn’t previously noticed that there needed to be a particular anything to ruin areas local economies. Aberdeen came to my mind, the city that told sturgeon no after being forced to lockdown.

I wonder if Edinburgh’s hanging in the balance position is a sign of sturgeons weakening grasp on power and reality.

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  Basicsh

6 hospitals per Covid Patient in Scotland just now, it’s a pandemic you know.

RECOUNT Coronavirus Scotland: Number of Covid hospital patients slashed from 262 to just 48 as stats overplayed by 80 per cent

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/6048912/coronavirus-scotland-nicola-sturgeon-hospital-covid/

Tenchy
Tenchy
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

I wonder if this counting “method”, or one similarly misleading, is used in the rest of the UK?

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  Tenchy

It refers directly -baldly- to the scam where by patients arrived in hospital with covid19 or were infected in hospital. They fought the infection and won, but remained in hospital with their other complex issues. 200+ of them. Because they were still in hospital, but clear of Covid19, they remained a stat on sturgeons note pad. Sturgeon knowingly told the nation 80% higher numbers of covid cases in hospital for a period of weeks. Myself and others had the likely senario worked out a month- 6 weeks ago when it became clear the hospital numbers were not dropping. It stinks to high heaven.

Artificial high numbers or else Scotland opposition would have had to of woken up. Such low rates of clinical cases.

DJ Dod
DJ Dod
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

And just a quick reminder, for anyone who missed it, that Jason Leitch, Scotland’s National Clinical Director, recently described the current tests for Covid-19 as ‘…a bit rubbish’.

Given that Government policy in the whole of the U.K. is being driven by ‘cases’ supposedly detected by these tests that is a remarkably candid admission.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18711279.scotlands-health-chiefs-astonishing-admission-coronavirus-tests-bit-rubbish/

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  DJ Dod

I missed that so thanks.

Carrie
Carrie
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

That should be headline news!

B Boru
B Boru
6 years ago
Reply to  Basicsh

Sturgeon out!!!!

Here’s something you may not be aware of with regard Her Imperial Hignness, Great Leader And Mother Of The Country And Of The Galaxy And Surrounding Gas Clouds, Her most Esteemed and Right Honourable Nicola ‘Jimmy Krankie’ Sturgeon and her cohorts…..

Corruption Inc.

https://johnjamessite.com/2020/09/13/a-50m-meltdown/

aiden
aiden
6 years ago

Just had a visit from the police checking that my mother in law (who’s just arrived from Brazil) is following quarantine rules. 100% sure that one of the neighbours has called the police and reported us.

NappyFace
NappyFace
6 years ago
Reply to  aiden

Any way you can find out which ones?

aiden
aiden
6 years ago
Reply to  NappyFace

Plan is to just directly ask the ones we think most likely. We’ve just had a baby, so what with the lack of sleep, the world going to hell in a hand cart and now our neighbours dobbing us into the authorities, it’s no wonder my wife’s just said that she doesn’t want to be alive in this period of history.

Lisa from Toronto
Lisa from Toronto
6 years ago
Reply to  aiden

My thoughts are with you and your wife. The post-partum period is tough enough without all of this craziness added in. I hope having her mom around will give her some help and boost her spirits.

Lee23
Lee23
6 years ago
Reply to  aiden

Sorry to read this. It’s rubbish, but please tell your wife that lots of good people around who can support each other through this. All the best and hope your Mother in law is left alone. Shame on our country.

JohnB
JohnB
6 years ago

Amusing experience in Waitrose this afternoon. (Me and 1 other maskless, plus a guy talking on his phone with a mask round his neck).

As I approached the chocolate aisle, always a key part of my shop, I heard a raised voice. Guy in mask (with 2 young kids in tow) had turned round and was coming back towards me to shout at . . . another bloke in a a mask. Something about distancing, I think, but as I could hear neither of them clearly (!), will never know the details. 🙂 The terrified are starting to fight among themselves !

AngloWelshDragon
AngloWelshDragon
6 years ago

The thing I find most depressing is that whenever the government’s draconian rules are seen to fail – lockdown, masks, and surely soon the rule of 6 and curfews – the fanatics and the sheeple refuse to believe the failure was because the intervention failed to work against a virus that is not flu, is evolving and about which we still have much to learn,

Instead of taking it on the chin and being honest with us by saying, we tried X and it failed so we will stop doing X, they double down on the rules and blame is placed squarely on the citizenry. Despite far greater compliance than the government hoped for in their wildest dreams the failure to eradicate the virus is laid at the door of holiday makers, youngsters, protestors, non mask wearers even though we are very few and they are many. Every new rule is now caveated with “comply or we will be even more severe” ensuring that every new measure will be enforced by the sheeple who are terrified both of the virus and the ever harsher restrictions coming down the track. We sceptics are the scapegoats. For us sceptics the saying “a… Read more »

FatBastardMcKenzie
FatBastardMcKenzie
6 years ago

A most excellent summary. Thank you.

Tyneside Tigress
Tyneside Tigress
6 years ago

I’ll second that.

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
6 years ago

I follow a few lockdown zealot social media groups to gauge the fear levels. And it’s grim. They believe the true death numbers are being hidden (the reduction of 5,000 Carl Henegen forced was ‘fiddling the books’), that all kids will get Kawasaki disease, that as its Cold and Flu season, if you get either of those it makes you more vulnerable to Covid-19 and more likely to die as your body fights on two fronts.

The screenshot is an example.

I really think this is not for turning anytime soon. People have really lost all perspective and will need some serious convincing this is over. A vaccine, even a bloody placebo seems their only hope.

They twist and contort every positive message that this is not what we had initially feared into unreal negativity. It makes me want to say something but it is certainly a waste of time. I’ll continue to lurk.

Screenshot_20200915_223127.jpg
matt
matt
6 years ago

Pretty much my experience of drop off too. I love it. Gives me hope.

Richard O
Richard O
6 years ago

This woman is mentally ill, and her poor daughter, if she makes it into adulthood without committing suicide, will be an absolute basket case until the day she dies.

JohnB
JohnB
6 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Daughter could well pursue a political career …

Basics
Basics
6 years ago

Any idea what is missing from people’s lives to think Kawasaki is going to take all children etc.?

Are they having a fine wartime experience or feeling the comfort in being sad? There must be psychological answers for why such irrational behaviour has set up camp.

Social media being an effect of an internal gap.

Alethea
Alethea
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

I go back and forth in relation to this. Sometimes I agree with you that they have attached to Covid as a way of objectifying a threat or a loss or a trouble that they can’t otherwise name. At last they have been given a state-mandated rhetorical technique for acting out their pain. (Though it will be of no use in solving the problem, because they don’t recognise that what they are doing is expressing a psychological phenomenon, not responding to reality.)
At other times I feel less compassionate and think of it as a form of decadence. Some kind of self-titillation about death in the real absence – for the majority – of any significant risk of death.

stevie119
stevie119
6 years ago
Reply to  Alethea

I really do think that they think that they have a starring role in their very own horror movie and that the rest of the dopey twats on faecesbook are their fans.

NappyFace
NappyFace
6 years ago

They are lost.
28 days later style – they’ve turned, and nothing will get them back. Leave them to their miserable existence.
Pity the poor child, but there is nothing you can do, sadly, other than look after yourself and your own family and try to keep sane.

Carrie
Carrie
6 years ago

Show them this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQat0vX-wjM&feature=youtu.be – they’ll have a meltdown! Film of what it is like now, shopping in Sweden…

stevie119
stevie119
6 years ago

A typically thick twat that can`t even spell.

jim j
jim j
6 years ago

There isn’t anything new about the public behaviour here, fascinating parallels to be drawn with cult behaviour. You have to read “When Prophecy Fails” –
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/12/the-christmas-the-aliens-didnt-come/421122/
Faced with contrary set of facts to the beliefs, some people will slip away, and some people will double down.
We are in the double down phase now I think.

Lisa from Toronto
Lisa from Toronto
6 years ago

It’s tails they win, heads we lose. If cases (or whatever the measure du jour is) go down it had to be because of the masks and distancing, but if they go in the other direction it’s because people aren’t distancing or wearing masks.

Basicsh
Basicsh
6 years ago

If you thought the tiktok dances had ended, think again! This one is epic…

https://twitter.com/maggmountains/status/1305670769402245120?s=20

Admiration to the dancers.

matt
matt
6 years ago
Reply to  Basicsh

Oh, we’re not gonna take it
No, we ain’t gonna take it
Oh, we’re not gonna take it anymore
We’ve got the right to choose it
There ain’t no way we’ll lose it
This is our life, this is our song
We’ll fight the powers that be, just
Don’t pick our destiny ’cause
You don’t know us, you don’t belong
Oh, we’re not gonna take it
No, we ain’t gonna take it
Oh, we’re not gonna take it anymore
Oh, you’re so condescending
Your gall is never ending
We don’t want nothin’, not a thing from you
Your life is trite and jaded
Boring and confiscated
If that’s your best, your best won’t do
Whoa, oh oh
Whoa, oh oh
We’re right (yeah)
We’re free (yeah)
We’ll fight (yeah)
You’ll see (yeah)
Whoa, whoa, we’re not gonna take it
No, we ain’t gonna take it
Oh, we’re not gonna take it anymore
We’re not gonna take it
No, we ain’t gonna take it
Oh, we’re not gonna take it anymore

Basicsh
Basicsh
6 years ago
Reply to  matt

Inspriational aren’t they! One dance group I approve of.

matt
matt
6 years ago
Reply to  Basicsh

Yes. Plus I’ve always had a secret soft spot for 80s glam rock.

Annie
Annie
6 years ago

Was just looking as some legal bumff on face nappies. By bumsuckers who obviously get their own nappies from the most appropriate place for nappy wearing.
Quote from an opinion that face nappy compulsion is fine provided it’s imposed by a democratically elected government:

‘A slave has to live in a state of perpetual uncertainty, a citizen knows where they stand.’

So we are citizens, not slaves, yeah?

https://www.city.ac.uk/news/2020/august/face-mask-rules-do-they-really-violate-personal-liberty

(Warning: full article will make you puke.)

john
john
6 years ago
Reply to  Annie

it’s a badly argued piece, trying to be clever.
Firstly, the authors state that “you are free when you are protected not against simple interference, but against arbitrary interference” but they provide no evidence that mandatory wearing of masks, to no proven benefit, is not arbitrary. If the government mandated that we wear yellow socks everyday it would be equally arbitrary.
secondly, they argue that the rules are the product of a democratically elected government – which is not the case when a state of emergency is declared purely for the reasons of bypassing a democratically elected government,
thirdly, they argue that the public ought to be worried about more important things – they reference demonstrations but fail to mention arbitrary arresting of those who demonstrate against the imposed lockdowns – but of course this is a null argument as there is always something “more important” – which is a means by which the nefarious gradually erode freedoms

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
6 years ago
Reply to  john

The author also states in another one of his publications :

“It will argue that a right to resistance is a necessary component of the political conception of human rights”

So, it’s OK to resist and he alludes to that in this article too. The author fails to mention anything about how the very rukes they have introduced are preventing that.

There is also the thorny issue of the unsettled science. So if a government can mandate masks on this way, what else can they do that also doesn’t impact your liberty? Mandate that you clap for the NHS? Mandate that you take a vaccine?

You are right that his line between arbitrary interference and simple interference is unclear. If you cannot be protected from simple interference then arbitrary is a given.

john
john
6 years ago

agree. And his argument justifies any infringement on freedom and human rights, on the premise that there is something more serious to fret about. Thus we should not be concerned about pregnant women getting arrested for a facebook post, because its not a jackboot to the head. And likewise we should not be concerned about a jackboot to the head, because it could also be something worse – and on it goes…..

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
6 years ago
Reply to  john

That’s my take. So many mask advocates start from the premise that the science is settled and look for answers why people can’t act on it, ie wear a mask. They are idiots, nutbars, conspiracy theorists, they are being fed misinformation.

It’s confirmation bias in operation

DoubtingDave
DoubtingDave
6 years ago

Something a bit light hearted for LS’s, solid advice for true believers:

GERMS AND YOU

matt
matt
6 years ago
Reply to  DoubtingDave

Thank you for that. It raised a smile. And then it went on to play “Tacky” which did the same.

hotrod
hotrod
6 years ago

Meanwhile in Italy.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RichardEGrant/status/1305894192359641089

How sensible.

WTAF has Hancock been doing for the past few months?

Annie
Annie
6 years ago

Humans think that life should be worth living.
Zombies think life means just not being dead.
Humans show their faces.
Zombies have no faces.
Humans value other humans.
Zombies value nothing, not even other zombies, only their zombie selves.

It’s tough being human just now.
But, by the living God that made us, it’s INFINITELY better than being a zombie.

Fellow humans, I value you more than I can say.

James
James
6 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Reciprocated , Annie.

Richard O
Richard O
6 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Imagine the lack of self-esteem, the depths of self-worth and the scale of self-hatred that would cause someone to succumb to such a barrage of lies and insults to their intelligence, then beg their government to harm themselves and their children and inflict violence upon anyone who offers different information, at the same time as dismissing that information in wilful ignorance.

You have just caught a glimpse into the barren, miserable, agonising internal landscape of the zombie.

B Boru
B Boru
6 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV5_LQArLa0

or for those of a more classical persuasion……

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3aGlKYlEiY

When you walk through a storm
Hold your head up high
And don’t be afraid of the dark
At the end of a storm
There’s a golden sky
And the sweet silver song of a lark

Walk on through the wind
Walk on through the rain
Though your dreams be tossed and blown

Walk on, walk on
With hope in your heart
And you’ll never walk alone

You’ll never walk alone

Cheers
B

leggy
leggy
6 years ago
Reply to  B Boru

This might have to be the resistance anthem.

B Boru
B Boru
6 years ago
Reply to  leggy

Possibly…but my recommendation would be this…;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXazVhlyxQ

B Boru
B Boru
6 years ago
Reply to  B Boru

Rage. Against. The. Machine.

Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
6 years ago
Reply to  B Boru

RATM literally wrote the theme tune to this shitshow. Which is why them taking the lockdown lovelength is puzzling

B Boru
B Boru
6 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

I just like the beats an shouting 😉 haha

Nah serious;y, I find I am digging out more and more of my old punk records and listening to them again with new ears…..many are proving to be entirely prophetic!!

I dunno what Rage’s stance is but probably like most others, they arent saying much….well apart from Noel Gallagher, who I hasten to add, always thought was an establishment luvvie, has now gone up considerably in my extimations. Liam and Ian Brown should be mentioned also, Jim Corr, there’s another one lol….as well as Peter Ebdon and Matt Le Tissier from world of sports….taken pelters all of them but haven’t backed down….fair play.

But yeah….The message and music still stands as regard Rage whatever they are doing now.

Cheers
B

B Boru
B Boru
6 years ago
Reply to  leggy

or equally as effective might be….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqkMsXcHQYg

Will
Will
6 years ago

Ambrose Pritchard arsewipe writing his usual nonsense in the Telegraph. Managed to mention seroprevalence and herd immunity and not mention Sweden… bullshit artist of the highest order.

DRW
DRW
6 years ago
Reply to  Will

The Torygiraffe is overrated if you ask me. It has been the most consistently sceptical MSM which gets some hopes up but it’s also still full of crap like that.

Carrie
Carrie
6 years ago
Reply to  Will

Maybe the Telegraph need to send a journalist to Sweden, to see this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQat0vX-wjM&feature=youtu.be – what shopping is like over here at the moment…

T. Prince
6 years ago

Federal Judge Rules Pennsylvania Lockdown “Unconstitutional”

Even in an emergency, the authority of the government is not unfettered. The liberties protected by the Constitution are not fair-weather freedoms – in place when times are good but able to be cast aside in times of trouble.

There is no question that this Country has faced, and will face, emergencies of every sort. But the solution to a national crisis can never be permitted to supersede the commitment to individual liberty that stands as the foundation of the American experiment.

The Constitution cannot accept the concept of a “new normal” where the basic liberties of the people can be subordinated to open-ended emergency mitigation measures. Rather, the Constitution sets certain lines that may not be crossed, even in an emergency.

Annie
Annie
6 years ago
Reply to  T. Prince

Golden words.

matt
matt
6 years ago
Reply to  T. Prince

That’s great. Thin end of the wedge, hopefully.

leggy
leggy
6 years ago
Reply to  T. Prince

We so need more voices like this. Won’t see it on the BBC of course!

Achilles
Achilles
6 years ago
Reply to  T. Prince

Simple. What a shame there isn’t anyone in the MSM or Houses of Parliament capable or willing to fight for our basic freedoms.

Bugle
Bugle
6 years ago
Reply to  Achilles

Sir Charles Walker gave a good speech in Parliament last night. Sir Graham Brady, chair of the 1922 Committee, has publicly criticised the gov’t. So has Sir Lindsay Hoyle, the speaker.

DRW
DRW
6 years ago
Reply to  T. Prince

I did hear that some in other states (Michigan?) are trying to challenge/amend the legacy ’emergency’ legislation allowing the Govs to indefinitely rule by diktat. Maybe the fightback continue.

smurfs
smurfs
6 years ago

Off topic I guess as it relates to censorship, but I received an error when trying to access the video clip Jim Cramer just called Nancy Pelosi “Crazy Nancy” on live television hosted on Bitchute. It is an Innocuous clip, cringe worthy may be, which makes the error all the more surprising.

The error message reads..

This video is unavailable as the contents have been deemed illegal by the authorities within your country.

I use a VPN and receive the error when I access the hyperlink via UK and Germany (didn’t try anymore countries)

I must admit I was a little taken aback as I was under the impression Bitchute did not censor content. How wrong was I? It seems they are no better than YouTube after all.

Has anyone else come across this before?

P.S. Just as well Vernon Coleman had problems migrating his video catalog to Bitchute, opting for BrandNewTube instead, as he could well have found himself jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

bitchute.jpg
tallandbald
tallandbald
6 years ago
Reply to  smurfs

Works fine for me…?

smurfs
smurfs
6 years ago
Reply to  tallandbald

Thanks.

I’ve tried several more EU countries and getting the same error. Must be a geographic block as it works fine when connecting via US or Canada. Anyway life’s too short to worry about it. Just good to know they are no better than youtube when it comes to censorious behaviour.

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
6 years ago
Reply to  tallandbald

Same

B Boru
B Boru
6 years ago

“The people have the power, all we have to do is awaken that power in the people. The people are unaware. They’re not educated to realize that they have power. The system is so geared that everyone believes the government will fix everything. We are the government.”—John Lennon

BJJ
BJJ
6 years ago
Reply to  B Boru

Gimme the truth
John Lennon

RickH
RickH
6 years ago
Reply to  B Boru

I’m afraid he got shot.

B Boru
B Boru
6 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Thts cos he was more powerful than them and they were afraid of him…..so they killed him.

His legacy and message will live forever 🙂

B Boru
B Boru
6 years ago
Reply to  RickH

“Peace can be made only by those who are peaceful, and love can be shown only by those who love. No work of love will flourish out of guilt, fear, or hollowness of heart, just as no valid plans for the future can be made by those who have no capacity for living now” – Alan Watts

Achilles
Achilles
6 years ago
Reply to  B Boru

“Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious.”. 1984.

B Boru
B Boru
6 years ago
Reply to  Achilles

Touche! haha

However i prefer the glass half full approach 😉

I used to walk that path….no good down that road.

Cheers
B

tonyspurs
tonyspurs
6 years ago
Reply to  B Boru

“Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives.”
Another Lennon quote very apt

hotrod
hotrod
6 years ago

Has anyone being watching the situation with Ivor Cummins this evening on Twitter.

Would suggest that Ivor has made a significant impact.

Brilliant stuff.

matt
matt
6 years ago
Reply to  hotrod

Link?

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  matt

https://www.despecialist.eu/nl/opinies/al187-artsen-uiten-bezorgdheid-aanpak-uitbraak-sars-cov-2-in-open-brief.html

I am not sure this relates to hotrods comment. It is from Ivor Cummins – it is big news.

matt
matt
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

I just looked up cummin’s feed. Someon calling themselves “juniordr” has a Twitter thread rebutting the latest video. Evidently, Cummins responded at length, but his responses have been hidden.

Interesting to note, there’s a lot of hate out there for KBF and apparently Cummins is a “dangerous conspiracy theorist” and Julia H-B spreads misinformation.

Nick Rose
Nick Rose
6 years ago
Reply to  matt

Let them hate, so long as they fear :o)) #KBF

BTLnewbie
BTLnewbie
6 years ago
Reply to  Nick Rose

“Oderint, dum metuant” – Not sure Caligula is the best role model, Nick!

Basicsh
Basicsh
6 years ago
Reply to  matt

Thanks for the translation! 745k views in 6 days, it’s going to get on someone’s nerves.

Mark
Mark
6 years ago
Reply to  matt

Lot of hate out there for anyone resisting the Official Truth, as Toby (or Will) mentioned here the other day:

Covid lockdown rules more divisive than Brexit, survey finds
Well done, lockdowners.

John
John
6 years ago
Reply to  matt

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B089QRNCKP/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i0 apparently juniordr is a cardiologist registrar in London. This is his blog https://juniordoctorblog.com/

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Great stuff. They absolutely nail every single issue bang on

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  hotrod

200 belgian doctors calling out the virus for what it is – from Ivor Cummins twitter

https://twitter.com/FatEmperor/status/1305945188792139776?s=20

Carrie
Carrie
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Slightly off-topic byt scrolling down that thread I see that Kirstie Allsopp is a sceptic and is tweeting a lot about how ridiculous the rules are!

mj
mj
6 years ago
Reply to  hotrod
BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
6 years ago
Reply to  hotrod

It’s heavy going.

Twitter is the worst place to do a back and forth on anything. Nevermind this important issue.

Can’t see any of Ivors replies anywhere

swedenborg
swedenborg
6 years ago

https://www.sanews.gov.za/south-africa/health-focuses-immunity-seroprevalence-covid-19-cases-decline
 

South Africa reached the famous 20% level and herdimmunity

“According to the model of COVID-19, the initial seroprevalence studies from convenience samples have shown seroprevalence of between 29% and 40%. 
“Interestingly, the revised models currently predict that there are probably about 12 million South Africans in total – detected and undetected – infected with Coronavirus. This translates to about 20% of the population,” said Mkhize.
There are now 650 749 confirmed COVID-19 cases, with 15 499 deaths since the outbreak in March 2020, after 52 more people lost their lives on Monday.
However, Mkhize said the number of detected cases countrywide continues to be on a downward spiral since 22 August 2020, when the country reported under 3 000 cases.
This was down from between 10 000 and 15 000 cases a day at the peak of the pandemic in July.
Patients under investigation, general ward admissions, ICU admissions, deaths and excess deaths are on the decline, the department said.
“Consistency across these indicators reassures us that indeed, we are in the midst of a trough in the pandemic.”

Annie
Annie
6 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

Not an end. only a trough.
Yeah.

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