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by Toby Young
28 September 2020 12:13 AM

Laurence Fox Has Raised £5 Million From Tory Donors

According to a piece in the Mail yesterday, Laurence Fox hasn’t raised £1 million to support his new political party, as reported in the Sunday Telegraph. He’s raised £5 million!

Laurence Fox is launching a new political party to fight the culture wars named Reclaim, and he has already raised more than £5million.

The actor, 42, has received substantial sums from former Tory donors and hopes to stand dozens of candidates across the UK.

The Lewis star says he wants to provide a movement for people who are “tired of being told that we represent the very thing we have, in history, stood together against”.

It comes as Nigel Farage has also threatened to launch an anti-lockdown party after criticising Boris Johnson’s draconian measures to curb the rise in coronavirus cases.

For anyone interested in joining Reclaim, there’s an expression of interest form here.

Stop Press: Patrick O’Flynn, a former UKIP MEP, has some cautionary words for Laurence in the Telegraph. His advice: sign up Nigel ASAP.

National Union of Students Ignores Imprisonment of Students, Launches Campaign to “Decolonise Education”

The President and Chief Executive of the NUS strategise about how best to spend students’ money

You couldn’t make it up. At the very moment that tens of thousands of students across the United Kingdom are being imprisoned in their halls of residence and threatened with expulsion if they show the slightest sign of resistance – the worst treatment of students by university authorities since the Second World War – the National Union of Students has launched a campaign to “decolonise education”. You can read all about it on the NUS website:

At the roots of these movements are a deep hunger and determination to rebuild how things are done, and remove all the things that have led to racism, colonialism and imperialism. And in their place, the aim and vision of a world that is accountable for this violence and works towards restorative justice.

This would be done by working together towards cultural, psychological and economic freedom. Decolonisation as theory and practice is used to imagine this and create what this change would look like.

Decolonisation in practice is about bringing to light and taking apart colonialist power in all its forms. For this, we also need to understand that society as we know it is built upon this power.

This includes all the things that perpetuate and reproduce the legacy of colonialism in areas like education, housing, finance, policing, healthcare and many more.

For example, if we look at education, it is about paying attention to how our education system, our schools, colleges and universities, and ways of learning are built on colonial histories. They all put whiteness at the centre and as a neutral perspective to learn about our world.

Decolonising means providing students, staff and their local communities with the tools and language to critically identify the ways our schools, colleges and universities are built using the same colonial hierarchies. It also means empowering them to confront, challenge and reject the status quo. They would then be able to reimagine how things can be done differently and create alternatives that would benefit us all.

Currently, we do not trust schools, colleges and universities senior leadership teams in their effort to decolonise their institution. And this makes sense: they benefit from it as individuals and don’t want to lose the power they gained from it. This is why we are supporting the creation of alternative learning spaces, such as the Free Black University, who are outside of the current model.

If I was a student, I think I’d want my trade union to focus on more pressing matters.

The Sun has a harrowing report of the restrictions that students at Manchester Metropolitan University are facing. Signs in the windows read “Help us!” and another renamed the institution “HMP MMU”. Students were initially ordered by the University to take down these signs, but the authorities then sheepishly acknowledged that they couldn’t actually prevent students from communicating with the outside world.

Stop Press: A reader has pointed out that virtually no one under 25 has died from Covid in Scotland.

In Scotland for those aged under 25 there has been zero deaths – that is not just those with co-morbidities, that is everyone. No man under 45 has died since June 3rd, there have been 11 in total. The last woman under 45 died on May 2nd, there have been six in total.

Mad SAGE Scientist Warns of Third Wave

SAGE member Dr Emmett Brown warns of a “fifth wave” unless we can travel back in time and blow up the Wuhan Institute of Virology

Professor Mark Woolhouse, a member of SAGE , has warned that Londoners could be a facing a “third wave”! The Evening Standard has more.

London is in a “difficult place” and facing a ban on mixing households, a Labour MP has warned, amid warnings that any lockdown will only delay a “possible” third wave.

David Lammy, MP for Tottenham, said local lockdown measures, such as preventing residents from visiting other people’s homes, were “likely” to hit the capital. It came as Professor Mark Woolhouse, a member of the SAGE scientific advisory group, warned that a third coronavirus wave of COVID-19 is “entirely possible”.

This is like a game of bedwetters’ top trumps. How long before Professor John Edmunds appears on the Today programme to warn of a “fourth wave”?

Riot Police Throw Woman in Her Fifties to Ground at Anti-Lockdown Protest

The footage of the police “dispersing” yesterday’s ant-lockdown protest in Trafalgar Square is pretty shocking. Kathy Gyngell has written an eye-witness account of what happened in the Conservative Woman.

As I reached the south-west corner of the Square I saw police by their motorbikes were donning helmets.

Heading on towards Pall Mall, I saw that grim faced masked police in vans were beginning to pull out from a side street parking. In my innocence I thought this over-manned convoy was off back to base because with no trouble and relatively few people they were just not needed.

How mistaken I turned out to be. It was not till I got home that I found to my horror from the news that far from going back to base this must have been the start of their mobilising against the crowd. Which indeed they did. Officers determined to disperse the crowd, penned it in. Protesters and police were hurt.

Why this clearly premeditated action? Who authorised it and on what grounds?

Who authorised them to pen the crowd in? There was no need – there was no overspill into surrounding streets. And why did the police not regard this crowd with the same tolerance they did with the recent BLM protests?

It has shocked me to the core. And now I see that Sky News instead of focusing on unjustifiable and provocative police action has chosen to relay selective vox pops of ‘conspiracy theorists’. So predictable!

I could have told Sky News that you don’t have to be a conspiracy theorist to question the legitimacy or the rationality of the current Emergency powers – or to want to publicly protest against them.

Depressingly nearly all the papers today reporting the ‘clashes’ and the violence that occurred seem to have taken the pro-government line that the police enforcement of the government’s covid rules was justified, that they had a right to silence public dissent against them. They did not report that the police storming of the crowd after two and half hours of standing by was unprovoked or that there was every indication that their action was premeditated and planned. What I had witnessed was them moving into action when the rally was entirely peaceful and causing no disruption.

As a friend who was there to the bitter end reported back to me: ‘It was an amazing day but so tarnished by the police at the end. I feel deeply shocked by the way they stormed in. It was totally unnecessary and quite worrying in our democracy that this is how a peaceful demonstration is treated. It’s made the whole situation all the more worrying, I feel. It did feel amazing however to be surrounded by people not willing to accept this so-called New Normal.’

Worth reading in full.

If the police continue to behave in this heavy-handed and arbitrary manner, it will undermine the rule of law and destroy policing by consent.

Stop Press: If anyone knows the well-dressed, middle-aged victim of this police brutality, please tell her to get in touch. Would love to tell her story.

Postcard From Stockholm

A reader has just returned from a short break in Stockholm. Highly recommended.

A short break outside of this sceptered isle in 2020 is not easy. Every week the options for those who have an employment contract with limited annual leave decreases; two weeks quarantine is not an option. When Sweden was removed by Schapps from the “list”, the choice of Stockholm was made.

What would it be like? Would there be piles of dead bodies in the streets waiting to be removed?

Happily I can confirm all the media generated negative press is very far from the truth. The moment you touch down in Stockholm you feel free. That sense of fear and hysteria is lifted and carried away.

It is truly liberating. Outside of the airport in Stockholm I can confirm that the vast majority get on with their lives without having to wear masks in shops or on the public transport. There is hand sanitiser at various locations and social distancing is observed but the restaurants and bars appeared pretty normal and they even accept cash in the shops.

Once in a while you see a masked-up person but they are invariably foreign tourists. I never had to give my details for any track and trace; maybe there is a system but it wasn’t very evident.

I found Stockholm to be much more interesting than I imagined and the waterfront is stunning. The centre is free from rubbish and graffiti – unlike Paris and Berlin. Highlights are the Royal Palace which was so empty you could sit on the throne if you wanted and of course the Vasa Museum, showing the 17th Century ship in all its glory.

Maybe this week Sweden will be back on the naughty step but dear reader don’t be put off because the absence of queues and crowding is a blessing. Final tip: make sure you book to return on Friday evening rather than Saturday for obvious reasons.

NHS Track and Trace Orders Nokia Owners to Download COVID-19 App

In a cock-up that will surprise absolutely no one, NHS Test and Trace is sending texts to ancient Nokia phones telling their owners to to download the COVID-19 app. Er, what? A reader has been in touch to tell me her 88 year-old mother got this message yesterday and was left feeling somewhat confused. She sent me a photo of her mum’s phone.

Round-Up

  • “Coronavirus rule changes: What you can and can’t do in England from tomorrow” – A summary in the Mirror of the new rules that kicked in today. Most alarming is that anyone contacted by NHS Test and Trace is now legally obliged to self-isolate for 10 days and if you break the rules can be fined up to £10,000 – with the police carrying out spot checks to make sure you’re complying, according to the Mail. New regulations here
  • “Correcting Britain’s Vitamin D deficiency could save thousands of lives” – Matt Ridley and David Davis point out that a groundbreaking new study shows regular does of Vitamin D can cut the mortality rate from COVID-19 by 50%
  • “What kind of a country have we become when arrogant bullying is seen as the proper function of Ministers?” – Lord Sumption give Boris both barrels in the Mail on Sunday
  • “Don’t fine students for partying – pay their fees instead” – Some common sense from the always dependable Prof Carl Heneghan
  • “Schools in England told not to use anti-capitalist material in teaching” – The DfE has issued guidance advising schools not to use teaching resources from organisations that have expressed a desire to end capitalism, e.g. BLM. The Guardian has gone full mental jacket
  • “BLM Co-Founder’s Ties to Pro-Communist China Group: Mike Gonzalez” – Interesting lecture by Mike Gonzalez, Senior Fellow of the Heritage Foundation, on the links between BLM and the Chinese Communist Party
  • “Critical race theorists are ‘destroying the US’ from the inside” – Interview with Christopher Rufo for The Outsiders on Sky News Australia
  • “Where is the voice of the left as ‘libertarians’ annex the COVID-19 debate?” – Kenan Malik in the Observer asks where the left-wing defenders of our civil liberties are in the lockdown debate. I agree with him, although he doesn’t appear to realise that judging from his opening paragraph
  • “Warning of 50,000 Covid cases a day likely to be wrong, Oxford professor says” – In case you missed it, Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan interview Prof Sunetra Gupta for their Planet Normal podcast
  • “Lowdown on the Lockdown” – A Canadian sceptic called Rod Fraser describes his small acts of rebellion during Ontario’s shutdown
  • “Florida Re-opens” – Ron DeSantis for President. The Mail reports that bars and restaurants in Florida are now at full capacity
  • “Some Travellers Miss Flying So Much, They’re Taking Planes to Nowhere” – Travellers have taken to getting in a place that takes off, flies around for a bit, then returns them to where they started
  • “Pub curfews cause social distancing CHAOS as 1,000s spill on to streets at same time when bars shut at 10pm” – Who could have possible predicted that?
  • “Coronavirus infections NOT rising as fast as ‘nightmare projection’ from Government’s chief scientists, data reveals” – The Sun crunches the numbers and finds that Whitty and Vallance’s predictions are not coming true. If we had started to follow the scientist’s feared trend, the country would have reached closer to 8-9,000 daily cases by now. But on Saturday only 6,024 new infections were reported
  • “Beware of the stool pigeons” – Good piece by Luke Perry in Bournbrook magazine
  • “Government faces ‘certain’ defeat on Coronavirus Act, says Steve Baker” – Shame. Couldn’t happen to a nicer Government
  • “We must learn to live with coronavirus – just like Samuel Pepys lived with the Great Plague” – Sociology Prof and Sage member Robert Dingwall in the Mail
  • “Writers and actors including Ian McEwan and Griff Rhys Jones rally around JK Rowling amid onslaught of social media abuse and deaths threats over ‘transphobia’ row” – Good to see JKR getting some much deserved solidarity

"Liberty…dies like this, with government exercising draconian powers without parliamentary scrutiny in advance," says @SteveBakerHW

He accuses the government of "undermining the rule of law by having a shifting blanket of rules no one can understand".#Ridge pic.twitter.com/Mbw3XHPWoT

— Politics Hub with Sophy Ridge (@SkyPoliticsHub) September 27, 2020

Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers

Just two today: “Rebel Rebel” by David Bowie and “Your Application’s Failed” by Roxy Music.

Love in the Time of Covid

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.

Woke Gobbledegook

Mr Punch: “A theatrical figure from the heyday of Victorian imperialism who ‘entertained’ through an abuse of women and children that mirrored colonial Violence.”

We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today it’s the turn of the British Library which, according to chief librarian Liz Jolly, is absolutely neck deep in racism. The Telegraph has more.

The British Library’s chief librarian has claimed “racism is a creation of white people” and backed calls for major cultural change at the institution, the Telegraph can reveal.

Liz Jolly manages the vast collection of literary treasures held by the institution, and is supporting changes to displays and collections in the wake of Black Lives Matter protests. Reforms are being proposed by a “Decolonising Working Group”, which claims the British Library’s London building is an imperialism symbol because it resembles a battleship.

Staff being supported to decolonise the UK’s national library have also suggested that traditional puppet Mr Punch reflects “colonial violence”

The Telegraph has exclusively obtained documents revealing these claims, and a letter endorsed hundreds of employees which declared a racial “state of emergency” at the institution.

In response to this emergency, an internal report called for the removal of statues of the library’s founding fathers, replacing “Eurocentric” maps, and reviewing collections of western classical music which staff branded part of the “outdated notion” of Western Civilization.

The institution recently faced calls for defunding from MPs after the Telegraph revealed employees had urged colleagues to donate to Black Lives Matter and back the work of Labour MP Dianne Abbott.

The Telegraph can now reveal that Chief Librarian Ms Jolly has urged white staff to support the institution’s plans to purge the library of perceived racism.

In a video clip obtained by the Telegraph she tells colleagues: “I think, as I have said before, that we need to make sure some white colleagues are involved, because racism is a creation of white people.”

Ms Jolly receives between £120,000 and £125,000 per year for her work as Chief Librarian, a role she has held since 2018.

She has given her support to a broad “Anti-Racism Project” proposed in the wake of Black Lives Matter protests, telling colleagues “particularly pressing” work was ongoing to review “artworks in the St Pancras building”.

Ms Jolly assured staff that the project is “about developing and delivering major cultural change”, and part of this would be ensuring the repository of literary treasures will “reflect the diversity of Britain today”.

This followed on from a letter declaring a “state of emergency” at the library, signed by 200 employees, demanding BAME staff should review any job cuts which might affect employees with “protected characteristics” to ensure continued diversity at the library, better treatment of these workers, and ensuring the BAME Network has a say in who is employed as Head of Collections.

To tackle the legacy of “colonial violence” at the library, the letter also demands a statue of founder Sir Hans Sloane be removed.

This recommended removal is echoed in a report by the Decolonising Working Group, which claims that the “physical space” of the British Library contains “manifestations of the institution’s racism” by glorifying the British Empire.

Staff claim in the report that: “This glorification is hard to miss in the structure of the building itself, designed as it is in the form of a battleship, by far the greatest symbol of British imperialism.”

The building was designed by architect and former naval officer Sir Colin Wilson, who added maritime references such as portholes to the building.

In the report aimed at reforming the British Library “as a space”, visual aspects including a portrait of Mr Punch which hangs in the institution is critiqued.

The character, popular at seaside shows is: “A theatrical figure from the heyday of Victorian imperialism who ‘entertained’ through an abuse of women and children that mirrored colonial Violence.”

Given that the British Library is guilty of promoting racism and glorifying colonial violence, shouldn’t it stop receiving money from the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport? Oliver Dowden, time to wield the axe.

Stop Press: Free Speech Union Advisory Council member Zoe Strempel is not a fan of diversity training. Her latest Telegraph column on the subject is well worth a read.

“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.49 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.

Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face nappies in shops here.

Here’s a round-up of the scientific evidence on the effectiveness of mask (threadbare at best).

And here’s a round-up from the good people at Law or Fiction on what constitutes a “reasonable excuse” for not wearing a mask.

Stop Press: A reader tells me about his day out on the Dorset coast over the weekend. He was shocked to see so many people wearing face nappies.

Yesterday my wife and I enjoyed a truly wonderful day out, in the sea air of the Dorset coast. We headed for Lulworth Cove, parked the car, and after coffee walked the the Coast Path until our knees told us to turn back and head for a crab sandwich lunch. The place was busy but not impossibly so, and in any event neither of us were seeking absolute solitude.

But oh dear me, the face nappies! Even by the clear blue sea, with God’s own fresh northerly breeze, they were everywhere. Stout parties of all ages, whose breathing one supposes would be laboured at the best of times, were determined to make life even more difficult for themselves. And plenty of fit youngsters in the same face gear – when they weren’t smoking. It was a real pleasure to chat to couples of our vintage whose attitudes matched our own. I was inclined to shout “take off your silly nappies and enjoy the air, you dummies”, but it will require far more than my exhortations to get this brainwashed nation to snap out of its daydream.

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago

It’s quicker to remask after sips if you have a toothbrush ‘tache.

The said facial hair empowers the wearer to obey with alacrity and conviction.

Stay safe! 👮‍♂️⛑🗽

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RW
RW
3 years ago

Sometimes, these so-called normal people seem decidedly mental to me. Why does this guy spend over a hundert dollars on ticket for a play despite being perfectly aware of the rules which will be in place, spend another fairly large sum on drinks despite knowing he won’t be allowed to drink them and then, keeps complaining about voluntarily inflicting all of this onto himself??

I wouldn’t have bought the ticket in the first place. Had I nevertheless found myself in this situation, I wouldn’t be buying a drink I won’t be allowed to drink and had I come to that as well, I had absolutelty left — probably maskless and maybe with something like I’m coughing in your general direction! on the first warning.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

If you haven’t read the piece properly it’s best not to comment. Mr Murray bought neither the tickets nor the drinks.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Which is why I included the Had I nevertheless found myself in this situation and had I come to that as well. I must thus kindly ask you to follow your own advice.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

But he went. Don’t. Don’t support this kind of behaviour by attending the show.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

He went so others won’t.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

The surreal experience resulted in a column that is probably going to go viral and will cost Broadway Theaters untold thousands of dollars in future ticket revenues.

I didn’t need another reason to stay away from New York City, but now I’ve got a good one.

“Libby” should be proud of what she did for her company, industry and city.

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Cranmer
Cranmer
3 years ago

Why on earth does anyone pay to attend these events? It perpetuates the system. Plus, whilst they may not have recognised Mr Murray, you can bet they knew who Dr Peterson was and would have been watching him VERY carefully.

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago

Visiting venues which officiously enforce the ludicrous mask rules is a waste of time and is playing their game. Stay away and deprive them of revenue.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Hear hear.

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Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

I agree, but clearly enough people do not stay away and therefore play into the Libby’s of this world hands.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkXZt65XkTU
Ezra Levant, Founder of Rebel News in Canada, has been following the truckers’ ‘Freedom Convoy’ closely since it began. And unlike the CBC — which is basically owned by the federal government — Levant’s team at Rebel News has been sharing the side of the story the MSM ignores. So, how does Levant predict this will end between the truckers and Prime Minister Trudeau? Levant tells Glenn there is nothing to END: “The convoy has already won.” Glenn Beck

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GlassHalfFull
GlassHalfFull
3 years ago

We went to Milton Keynes theatre a few days ago and we weren’t allowed in without a vaccine pass or a negative LFT (I falsified mine).

Goons on the queues outside were loving their new found authority.

I wasn’t aware of these restrictions until the last minute as someone else bought the tickets.

Masks were every where but at least not compulsory.

We won’t be going back there anytime soon and had I known the restrictions I wouldn’t have gone.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

Our local theatre now has notices plastered up all over the outside that say “you MUST wear a mask to respect OTHERS!” 😲😠

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

you MUST wear a mask to respect OTHERS!

If you were going there regularly, it might make sense to contact management to inform them that they MUST treat customers with respect and MUST NOT attempt to order them around in this way and tone.

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

I see this sort of thing on trains and platforms- out of respect for others, keep other safe, etc. It’s clear that they know they have no rational argument to force you to wear a mask, so they try other tactics such as these to try and make you feel you should wear one in consideration of the feeling of others. If you know you are doing no harm, these tactics should be ineffective and yet many people I know mask up because they don’t want to be seen as ‘bad people’. It doesn’t work on me- I just stare back at them.

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Hopeless - "TN,BN"
Hopeless - "TN,BN"
3 years ago

I wouldn’t pay good money for any of these circuses, especially if I had an inkling that I would be treated like that.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago

And yet they went, knowing ze rules, and they sat there and took it.

This is how despotism triumphs, one grumbling compromise at a time.

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ElSabio
ElSabio
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Well said, that man… borg.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

It’s a bit awkward when somebody has bought tickets as a treat.

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Backlash
Backlash
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Not really, I would just tell them to fuck off and barge my way past. Good luck trying to eject me

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Stephanos
Stephanos
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Since the tickets were bought for them, it is a bit rude to refuse to go; it is also courteous to behave properly for one’s hosts. I would have found it VERY difficult to behave in those circumstances and Douglas Murray and Jordan Peterson have my deepest sympathy.
A truly horrible experience.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

Modern day Stasi!

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D B
D B
3 years ago

Why bother at all amusing them by complying – I have either been ignoring the rules or just not going to things.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  D B

Yup me too. A mate I sometimes play Squash with invited me to the Leisure centre for a game. It was 2020 when they just introduced masks, I asked would I need to mask there, he said probably just to walk through the reception, I said no I’m not playing their game, so never played ‘the’ game.

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Silke David
Silke David
3 years ago

3.5hrs?! That would drive me crazy in normal circumstances!
I won’t express my thoughts about anything Harry Potter related here, there’s just not enough space.
I think the craze for that was the first sign for me how easily influenced people are and they lost all ability to think for themselves.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

I love the Harry Potter series and pounced eagerly on each new book as it came out. Never missed a new film either.
How I got to be a sceptic is,therefore, a mystery. Maybe my parents started the rot in the 1960s, by gluing themselves to each successive episode of the original Forsyte Saga series.

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Stephanos
Stephanos
3 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

You might like to know, maybe you know this already, that the Harry Potter books have numerous references to the Classics. Which is probably why Annie loves them.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago

And that’s why I flatly refuse to go these places with their tinpot dictator rules! We were due to visit the theatre just before Christmas, which was booked during the late summer when all diktats had been dropped. Then the day before the show we got a lengthy email telling us of all reimposed rules they now expected us to suddenly follow. They were unbelievably ridiculous and OTT. We emailed them back and said we wanted to cancel because of this, and they rudely replied along the lines of “well if you can’t be bothered to help keep the staff and other patrons SAAAAFE…!” No. It’s because were not enabling and paying for this cultish nightmare to continue!

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maccone
maccone
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

I had bought tickets for a concert at the RNCM (Music College) just before the restrictions came in for Omicron. The RNCM then re-imposed the mask mandate for audience members (which had been lifted a few weeks previously) so we obtained a refund. Despite the lifting of all restrictions by the Government, the mask mandate there is still in place. Total nonsense.

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Fraser Nelsons Underpants
Fraser Nelsons Underpants
3 years ago

American self-described “liberals” sound like some of the worst people on the planet. Utterly insufferable.

In any case, why were Murray and Peterson there in the first place? Attendance at these charades only legitimizes their continuation. Honestly, both have been a disappointment throughout. Late to the game and a barely half-hearted effort once they did join.

Last edited 3 years ago by Fraser Nelsons Underpants
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mishmash
mishmash
3 years ago

Libby Libtard sounds like a real Moaning Myrtle.

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Stephanos
Stephanos
3 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

That is very unfair to Moaning Myrtle. Likening this Libby character to Dolores Umbridge is perfectly correct.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago

“Inside the Lyric Theatre, they had tried to recreate the atmosphere of an English boarding school.”

I know about that!

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago

In falling for Covid groupthink by getting needle raped, Peterson reaps what he sows.

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Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
3 years ago

Sorry for repeating myself from elsewhere but….
There is a sickness……and it’s not “Covid”.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago

The mistake is to try to continue with some semblance of normal life under these circumstances.

The surest way to normalise masks and all the other lunacy is to try to adapt and carry on under these new rules.

Personally, I refuse to engage in any activity that i can easily avoid – and that includes holidays, shopping, entertainment, – that requires me to do anything that I didn’t have to do 3 years ago. Until these rules are gone, I’m just not participating.

And if everyone took the same approach, this would have been over a long time ago.

So, to conclude – yes, sounded like a nightmare, but your own stupid faults for playing along with the insane rules. Life can be very gratifying and fulfilling without seeing Harry effing Potter on Broadway. I have no sympathy for Murray or Peterson.

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maccone
maccone
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

No, no, no! Playing along with rules that make no sense is just prolonging the nightmare. Please don’t be a sheep.

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Think Harder
Think Harder
3 years ago

What covid has taught us is there are far more Nazis amongst us than we thought.

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Bill314
Bill314
3 years ago

The sort of thing that keeps me out of the US these days, and I assume the rest of the world probably isn’t much better.

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dearieme
dearieme
3 years ago

“compassion fascists” is pretty good.

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Luis RCoelho
Luis RCoelho
3 years ago

I’m glad I live in Wales, UK… Since march 2020, I never had to wear a stupid mask not even once, thanks to an exemption card which makes it illegal for anyone to harass me and ask the reason why I wasn’t wearing one.
And in Wales, it was never mandatory to wear masks outside.
I think Jordan Peterson and his friends were brave and had tons of patience… I wouldn’t have lasted 5m without telling that ‘Libby’ exactly what she should have heard… and I have the habit of calling things by their names, them being ‘offended’ or not!!!

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Ruth Learner
Ruth Learner
3 years ago

I was coerced into seeing this by my kid – in the West End b 4 Covid – had I known how bad it is, i wouldn’t have gone – even if i had been paid to go – the script is incomprehensible drivel – and the absurd token diversity actor who played Hermione couldn’t act to save her life – and the infantilised adults dressed in silly costumes screaming and loving it were in a mass psychosis – it was almost a run thru of life to come. Masks the least of their problems.

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marebobowl
marebobowl
3 years ago

The Canadian Mounties trounced a few truckers in Ottawa yesterday. Justin using brute force against (his own people see Dr. Paul Alexander, substack video) what was a peaceful protest against mandatory experimental biologicals. Just wondering did he or any other gov’t use brute force when BLM’s trounced through cities tearing them up? No, I didn’t think so. But hey Canadian truckers are a dangerous bunch of thugs, right?

I would advise anyone who finds these mandates, such as masking, a joke, to refrain from paying for expensive tickets for a play, and being masked the whole time. Vote with your feet folks. When the economy tanks to zero, maybe someone in gov’t will wake up. Inflation already at an all time high. Good luck.

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D J
D J
3 years ago

Same happened to me on an Avanti train from Birmingham to London last year.
I had just ridden my bike for 20 miles from a clinic to the train. I was thirsty and wanted to drink from my bottle. I had noted the 2 Policemen at the back of the carriage buy was really angered when one told me:’ You can’t drink that all the way to London. You have to wear a mask.’
He was wrong. I could and did, sip by furious sip.
I downloaded Peel’s 9 principles on the way. The Police had failed them all.

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REMiller
REMiller
3 years ago

This does sound like an absolute nightmare. However the Voldemort line had me and my husband howling with laughter.

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Epi
Epi
3 years ago

The sign on the theatre door says you need to be jabbed and masked. Does this mean D Murray and J Peterson have both had the experimental gene therapy treatment?

Strange strange times indeed.

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maccone
maccone
3 years ago

Mask-wearing in theatres and for concerts is widespread here, too, and when rules change the people who run them will always give in to those who want to carry on wearing masks and keep the mandate in place. Yet if they lift it, people (the sheep) will happily remove masks when they see others doing so. Where is the sense in all this?

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Epi
Epi
3 years ago
Reply to  maccone

Sense? You clearly haven’t been paying attention (said jovially!) that went out of the window 23 months ago.

To misquote “men go mad in crowds but only regain their sense (sanity) slowly and one by one.”

Last edited 3 years ago by Epi
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fourth_horseman
fourth_horseman
3 years ago

About Douglas Murray’s experience with mask enforcement at that NYC theatre, I receive audience notifications for the BBC radio theatre, Portland Place, they now require a negative test result and in addition state “face coverings will be mandatory”,
A rule of thumb for me is not to visit any venue with restrictions, there is no legal requirement for these, bbc need to stop this, Question Time on BBC1 is also a horror show of Perspex screens and masks, unwatchable.

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Jess
Jess
3 years ago
Reply to  fourth_horseman

The thought of testing, then sitting in the Beeb’s Radio Theatre surrounded by people in muzzles means I, too, completely ignore the show notifications now. The airport security and long waits at Portland Place were always tedious – Covid extras would make going there intolerable.

Incidentally, the few minutes of Question Time I saw last Thursday night seemed to have its audience unmuzzled. But as I was dozing, maybe I imagined it.

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fourth_horseman
fourth_horseman
3 years ago
Reply to  Jess

@Jess: Yes you are correct, I’ve just checked iplayer catch-up, QT on 17 Feb from Leeds no Perspex screens between panellists and studio audience mask free, but slightly spaced, first time in ages, looking a bit more like 2019, bbc must have picked up on some of the push back, or they’ve been tipped off about content of Johnson’s statement next week.

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wantok87
wantok87
3 years ago

Ironically I went to Old Vic to see SEMMELWEIS- a play about how established Drs caused death by ignoring facts. I have both published and chaired international meeting on infectio include the futility of masks. We use them as splash protectors not to stop infection in surgery. I was told I would be ejected if I did not sit in a mask but in the interval my neighbours removed their masks to eat at ice cream. There should be a new crime of promotion and adherence to stupidity!

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atheling
atheling
3 years ago

If the theatre were really compassionate they’d not sell drinks, in fact they’d close down to ‘stop the spread’.but money is more important to them apparently. It is really pathetic and frighteningly like some Soviet regime. Why are the two most Democratic-controlled states like this I wonder? Is this where the collective good as a guiding principle takes us? The good determined by people who are deeply afraid and intransigent in their own extremism.

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago

Why the hell would Murray and Peterson comply with this nonsense in the first place? They go along with these stupid, illogical and immoral ‘rules’ and then complain when the mask cultists *enforce* the ‘rules’, ‘rules’ of which Murray and Peterson, by complying, have given their tacit approval.

I have zero sympathy for Murray here. He is in no position to whine when, by going along with this nonsense, he tacitly endorses the ‘rules’ and so invites admonishment from the mask cultists if/when he ‘breaks the rules’.

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Susan Lundie
Susan Lundie
3 years ago
Reply to  Moderate Radical

You may have noted they were invited by friends who paid for the tickets. He explains their reasons for persisting. I would personally not consider any venue that has a masking policy, but if I had found myself in that sort of situation, I would probably have done the same. Some if us would consider that a matter of courtesy to our hosts.
And perhaps writing about it as he has done in a New York paper may strike a considerable blow against this pointless obsession with respecting “others” comfort.

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago
Reply to  Susan Lundie

Yes, I noted he was invited by friends, and I noted his ‘excuse’ for putting up with such appalling treatment. I’m not sure what your point is. Any rational person with a moral backbone would have declined the invitation and not put themselves in that position in the first place. My point is, once there, he is in no position to whine about the enforcement of ‘rules’ of which he has already given his tacit consent.

So, now he is there. Who are these ‘friends’? What did they think of the appalling treatment of their group? Doesn’t ‘courtesy’ go both ways here? Wouldn’t they feel some sense of embarrassment at the treatment to which they and their ‘guests’ were subjected? Do you honestly believe the cost of the tickets outweighs these considerations and the wider moral argument? Surely the whole group should have just upped and left the moment it became obvious they were being harassed. But no. They all stayed and put up with it. And then Murray comes away and complains about it in an article. It’s pathetic.

Last edited 3 years ago by Moderate Radical
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ultraskept
ultraskept
3 years ago

If it is pleasurable, then go out and enjoy! If it causes you and your friends distress – then avoid the Theatre and share widely on all possible media!

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QuickDrawMcGraw
QuickDrawMcGraw
3 years ago

I’m sorry but I’m not interested in what Douglas has to say any more. I used to be a huge fan of his work and while I didn’t always agree with him, I always admired his courage in speaking out about issues that he felt strongly about regardless of what the establishment line might be. Where has he been for the past two years though? I haven’t heard a peep out of him regarding the draconian restrictions most of us have been subjected to, the loss of our personal freedoms, the encroaching totalitarianism. He’s moaning because he was hassled over mask wearing, where has he been?! We’ve all been hassled over this bullshit on a daily basis since March 2020!! Sorry Douglas, too little too late!

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