The Government is employing all the tricks it can think of to “coax and cajole” young Britons into getting vaccinated against Covid, the threat of vaccine passport checks at nightclubs and other ‘large venues’ being the most notable among these. In its latest ad campaign, which is being shown on billboards, on television and on social media platforms, young people are told they will “miss out on the good times” if they don’t get ‘jabbed’. But the latest figures show that these efforts may not be having as big of an impact as officials had hoped, with almost a third of English adults under the age of 30 still not vaccinated. BBC News has the story.
Three in 10 adults under the age of 30 have not had a first dose of a Covid vaccine, according to NHS England estimates.
Uptake is around 81% for people in their 30s and 89% for those in their 40s. It is 90% in all other age groups.
The lower rate among younger adults persists despite concerted efforts to encourage uptake. Food delivery and ride-hailing firms including Uber, Bolt and Deliveroo have been offering incentives to get people vaccinated. …
Responding to the figures, the Prime Minister tweeted that it was “fantastic” that 70% of adults under 30 “have come forward to get vaccinated”.
But he added: “Please get your jab if you haven’t already. It is our best route to beating the virus and getting back to the things we love.”
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What the difference between a cold, flu and Covid 19? Nothing they all have the same symptoms and the PCR can’t tell the difference.
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Not true.
Covid19 has some peculiar symptoms different to flu and pneumonia like Hypercania and Hypoxia.
There was the famous video by Dr Cameron Kyle-Sidell early on where he described COVID-19 as “a disease that does not make sense to us — a disease for which our usual treatment does not work.”
“Some are questioning whether this is a lung disease causing blood problems or a blood disease causing lung problems,” he said.
“I don’t know what it is, but I know that I have never seen it before. People are dying of a disease we don’t understand,.”
Kyle-Sidell has also said that “COVID-19 lung disease, as far as I can see, is not a pneumonia” but seems to be “some kind of viral-induced disease most resembling high altitude sickness.”
He and millions of other health professionals around the world have seen the difference between Covid19 and flu and pneumonia cases.
and then killed thousands with ventilators.
But the PCR test apparently can’t distinguish between the two!
Of course it can – this is a myth caused by the introduction of PCR tests that can test for Covid and Flu simultaneously whereas at the moment it requires two different PCR tests.
But they haven’t used 2 PCR tests through the entire 18 months – that’s why flu cases virtually disappeared. Not difficult to understand that – and also the fact that once cycled above 37, the test identifies, in the words of Fauci, ‘dead nucleotides’.
Oh, and the inventor of PCR was adamant that it could not be used for diagnosis.
There were regular PCR tests for flu throughout the year. They were used for diagnosis not screening because there wasn’t a reason to screen for flu. Almost all the tests came back negative.
The Kary Mullis story is a myth. He may have thought that PCR tests cannot be used to detect viruses but there is no proof of that. Even if he did think that, the fact remains that PCR has been used to detect many different types of viruses for many years. Mullis, although clearly brilliant, was also highly eccentric – among other things he doubted that HIV caused AIDS.
PCR has been bastardised to support the entire scamdemic, run at cycles too high to have any diagnostic accuracy. The PCR-Covid ‘Drosten’ method is fraudulent and not worth the paper it’s printed on.
Mullis said very clearly that in the right hands you can use PCR to detect almost anything you want, perfect for creating the illusion of a virus that has never been isolated.
Mullis said very clearly that in the right hands you can use PCR to detect almost anything you want, perfect for creating the illusion of a virus that has never been isolated.
Another myth. He was talking about HIV patients who are likely to suffer from a very wide range of viruses and therefore you can detect almost anything you want. That doesn’t apply to most people.
No the only myth is that your mainstream fact checking sources are credible. HIV context not necessary here, talking purely about the way PCR amplifies genetic material into a measurable quantity, seeing as there’s fragments of all sorts floating around in our systems that PCR can be used to identify as something they really are not.
And as there is no true isolate of Sars-Cov-2 anywhere on planet earth, you can’t calibrate any test to test for it, you can’t establish a true limit of detection LOD for that test and claim it has any scientific accuracy, it’s just genetic noise and the more cycles you run at the more noise you can claim is the thing you’re looking for. It’s all bullshit.
I wonder what you mean by no true isolate? These guys are one of hundreds of different teams that seem to think they have isolated it and they even include instructions on how to do it.
Bogus science using 37 fragments of the entire genome of 30,000+ for the alleged Sars-Cov-2 virus, this paper has been ripped to pieces already by credible virologists.
To isolate a virus you have to confirm a patient is infected, take a sample from that person, isolate the virus from the sample, introduce that isolated virus to a cell culture so that it can replicate and you end up with more virus, then you take some of those replicated virus and introduce to a healthy human cell to prove infection.
NONE of these steps have been done to prove Sars-Cov-2 exists and this is BASIC virology. In the last month alone there has been an attorney in South Africa who asked for proof of isolation from the government – they couldn’t provide it.
A Freedom of Information request in Ireland for proof of isolation – they couldn’t provide it.
A Canadian man who went to court over a $1200 Covid restriction breaking fine, and as his defence he requested proof of isolation, the chief medical officer was subpoenaed for the information and……they couldn’t provide it and his case was dismissed. The chief medical officer couldn’t provide proof.
If this virus is everywhere then WHERE THE FUCK IS IT?
It’s all bullshit and you are a clown trying to disprove facts to push the narrative.
Here’s a quote from the CDC: “Positive results are indicative of active infection with 2019-nCoV but do not rule out bacterial or co-infection with other viruses.”
Here’s one from the British Medical Journal December 21st 2020:
“The only test for live virus is viral culture. PCR and lateral flow tests do not distinguish live virus. No test of infection or infectiousness is currently available for routine use. As things stand, a person who tests positive with any kind of test may or may not have an active infection with live virus, and may or may not be infectious.”
Every positive PCR result is medical fraud and all social restrictions based on them are criminal breaches of our rights.
Bogus science using 37 fragments of the entire genome of 30,000+ for the alleged Sars-Cov-2 virus, this paper has been ripped to pieces already by credible virologists.
Are you sure you have the right paper? These guys replicated the virus in living cells and made it available to the public. You can’t do that with 37 fragments of the genome.
(If you don’t like that paper for some reason here are a couple more:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7036342/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7366528/)
To isolate a virus you have to confirm a patient is infected, take a sample from that person, isolate the virus from the sample, introduce that isolated virus to a cell culture so that it can replicate and you end up with more virus, then you take some of those replicated virus and introduce to a healthy human cell to prove infection.
I guess you are thinking of Koch’s postulates? These have largely been superseded and have never applied to viruses. In any case the paper I linked to did all of those steps except the last.
In the last month alone there has been an attorney in South Africa who asked for proof of isolation from the government – they couldn’t provide it.
A Freedom of Information request in Ireland for proof of isolation – they couldn’t provide it.
A Canadian man who went to court over a $1200 Covid restriction breaking fine, and as his defence he requested proof of isolation, the chief medical officer was subpoenaed for the information and……they couldn’t provide it and his case was dismissed. The chief medical officer couldn’t provide proof.
I am not familiar with these anecdotes. They sound very much like Internet gossip. Do you have some links? It seems to me the attorney, the FOI request and Canadian man could all have resolved their problem by asking for a reference sample from the CDC – a free service.
If this virus is everywhere then WHERE THE FUCK IS IT?
All over the place but the CDC will do for a start.
The rest of your post is about whether PCR tests can identify live viruses. That’s another topic. I suggest sticking to one topic at a time.
More bogus studies using PCR to identify ‘the virus’ then putting those swab samples into cell culture to replicate ‘the virus’ so they can do another PCR test and say they have proof of ‘the virus’.
Koch’s postulates have been used for viral identification many times such as the original SARS virus, saying otherwise is just more bullshit that your ‘fact checkers’ claim to avoid having to admit there is no evidence that Sars-Cov-2 exists. I don’t know, sheesh the lengths these charlatans will go to to obscure the truth is ridiculous.
And those ‘anecdotes’ are what you will find if you looked at credible alternative media once in a while when you’re not being mind fucked by mainstream propaganda.
Well the fact remains that Mullis was talking in the context of HIV (listen to the YouTube clip if you don’t believe me). He may also believe that PCR can find almost anything in any one but it is not at all clear that is what he meant on that much quoted occasion. If he did mean it, then genius or not, he is obviously exaggerating. The RNA sequence being tested for in the case of Covid is about 60 base pairs long. Your body may have a lot of protein sequences but there an infinite number of possible protein sequences and an effectively infinite number of RNA sequences of the length that is being tested for in a Covid . (It is actually about 1 in 4^60 which is a number you don’t want to start thinking about.)
Speaking of improbable numbers, what are the odds that Covid vaccine trial participants would falsely test positive for HIV after injection?
I guess you are talking about this?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-55269381
Odd -isn’t it? But so what?
Wow talk about landing on the needle in an impossibly large haystack, but hey i’m sure it was just a coincidence, like if you put enough monkeys in front of typewriters they’ll eventually write Shakespeare’s entire works!
Reading up about this it appears that they used a protein GP41 to stabilise the vaccine which produces some of the same antibodies that HIV produces. Presumably GP41 is found in the HIV virus – or something similar. I don’t see this as an enormous coincidence.
If antibodies were accidentally produced by the inclusion of GP41 protein ‘fragments’ in the trial shot, then why don’t they just use spike protein fragments from the alleged Sars-Cov-2 virus to create the same response? Why go to all the trouble of using mRNA to turn our own cells into pathogen factories?
Read between the lines.
And now they’re even saying that the Covid-19 vaccines somehow offer protection against HIV wow what an amazing coincidence!
Where? I can only find stuff saying that it is safe to take the vaccine if you have HIV.
Ha ha ha, really I’m nearly choking with laughing. Even by your moronic standards it’s a corker….’he may have thought that PCR tests cannot be used to detect viruses but there’s no proof of that’
Would that be THE same Kary Mullis the inventor of PCR, the brilliant biochemist and Nobel prize winner? I suspect HE knew what he was talking about!
I am sure he knew what he was talking about. I am not claiming he said “there is no proof of that”. What I am saying is that there is no proof he thought PCR tests cannot be used to detect viruses. If he did, then, however brilliant, he is clearly wrong. They have been used for just that purpose for many different viruses for years.
Absolute bollocks. All a PCR test does is detect the RNA strand you have asked it to find.
A PCR cannot differentiate between a live or dead virus, it cannot give you a diagnosis of anything.
Please stop with your stupidity…really the fact that you think Kary Mullis didnt know how his PCR invention worked is just embarrassing.
A PCR cannot differentiate between a living or a dead virus but if you find the RNA sequence by the most likely explanation is a living virus, and if it is dead then it must have been living once!
If you think a PCR test cannot give you a diagnosis of anything then you are throwing out standard tests for a vast range of pathogens such as flu, hiv, measles, chickenpox – you name it.
I never wrote anything that implied Kary Mullis didn’t know how his PCR invention worked. I just said he may have exaggerated something.
Bollox it’s the fucking flu it’s kills old am
Nd infirm
hypercapnia, you mean?
This is a misunderstanding. The current PCR tests for Covid look for an RNA sequence that is found in the Covid virus and not in any of the flu viruses. There is a separate PCR test that looks for genetic sequences found in flu viruses. The confusion is caused by the forthcoming introduction of PCR tests that can test for Covid and Flu at the same time.
https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2020.25.8.2000171?fbclid=IwAR1yaTgICfc15rO6mkI90pBb45j1EnT87KA5p9gcfnixqS%20ciJWsFeQb4j5I
“Plenty of Coronaviruses but no SARS-Cov-2”
Interesting that the CDC is now asking laboratories to test for flu alongside Covid from December 2021.
In February 2020, this letter appeared in Eurosurveillance from a laboratory in France who were doing work for the French government under the “Investments for the future” programme. The authors talked about how, during the Mers epidemic, they tested people returning from the Hajj pilgrimage. They did not find Mers but influenza A and B et al. They say that there was a great disconnect between the fear of this respiratory virus spreading throughout France and the reality.
When Covid-2 started in China, they did similar tests on 32 suspected cases of Covid-19, 337 tests on people repatriated from China (tested twice) and 5000 respiratory samples from France but again found different strains of influenza and several other viruses including Coronaviruses but not SARS-Covid-2.
If someone “tests” positive for Covid, is symptomatic and maybe has to go into hospital, are they also tested for a range of other respiratory viruses or is it just accepted that it is SARS-cov2 causing the symptoms?
What about those who “test” positive but are asymptomatic? Does only Covid count?
Margaret
I don’t understand your point. It appears that this lab used PCR to test a lot of people for SARS-Cov-2 and didn’t find it. This doesn’t seem to reflect on the quality of PCR testing – just on the amount of SARS-Cov-2 at that time (Feb 2020). A month or two later PCR tests in France (presumably similar) revealed a very large number of SARS-Cov-2 cases.
If someone “tests” positive for Covid, is symptomatic and maybe has to go into hospital, are they also tested for a range of other respiratory viruses or is it just accepted that it is SARS-cov2 causing the symptoms?
No idea – but it would be quite a coincidence if they have more than one respiratory virus at the same time. Also, as I understand it, Covid symptoms are fairly distinctive – particularly by the time they get to hospital.
What about those who “test” positive but are asymptomatic? Does only Covid count?
I don’t understand this question. What do you mean by “Does only Covid count?” . If you test positive and are asymptomatic then there is some SARS-Cov-2 material in your body (probably a live infection but possibly the aftermath of a prior infection or even a small amount of virus that never took hold). But I suspect that does not address your point.
I think the first “case” in France was on 24th January, 2020.
I wasn’t really making any point about the fact that the laboratory couldn’t find any signs of Covid but found plenty of other respiratory viruses instead. I was linking the article to the fact that from the end of this year, the CDC is asking laboratories to test for influenza as well as Covid. We all know here how flu has disappeared off the face of the earth until recently because everything has been Covid.
I understood that the symptoms of Covid: cough, high temperature, loss of smell, and according to the Zoe app, now sneezing and sore throat, were common to a lot of illnesses. Even the ground glass opacities found on X-rays can be caused by Nitrogen Dioxide poisoning. (See the very high levels of Nitrogen Dioxide over N Italy, Barcelona and Madrid in January 2020)
As Cary Mullis said, if you look hard enough with PCR, you can find anything. I was wondering that if those asymptomatic people with a positive PCR were also to be tested for the Epstein Barr virus or the one that causes viral meningitis, they might not display symptoms but could be carriers. I read somewhere that if we were all tested for Covid at 60 plus cycles, they would find traces of the virus in us all.
As I’ve said before, I’m not a scientist but I do like to question everything!
Reminds me of the story that almost all banknotes carry traces of drugs (I don’t know if this is still the case with the plastic muck we have now). If they applied similar logic to people “with” drugs, and actually enforced the law about people being in possession of (illegal) drugs – could be a lot of people in trouble!
And what about the claim that elderly people who die of a respiratory disease have over a dozen pathogens present on average? And the high number of cycles apparently used for the tests? I just want to be clear.
And what about the claim that elderly people who die of a respiratory disease have over a dozen pathogens present on average?
Sorry – I don’t know anything about this claim. Do you have a link?
the high number of cycles apparently used for the tests?
Well I am no expert here, but as I understand it, the appropriate number of cycles before you decide there is no viral material depends on a number of things including how the sample was collected, the particular test and the process. You cannot set a level which is high or low. If there is some doubt as to whether the viral material is present then you either mark the test as “indeterminate” (this happened to me for one of my many tests) or repeat the test.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971218300134
This paper from Lisbon in 2013-2014 seems to suggest that elderly people could be carrying two or more respiratory viruses (table 4).
I’m still looking for a link to Hugh’s comment as I know that I have seen it myself.
https://eprints.soton.ac.uk/405113/1/2016-%2520JMV-%2520Viral%2520pathogens%2520among%2520elderly%2520people%2520with%2520acute%2520respiratory%2520infections%2520in%2520Shanghai%252C%2520China.pdf
“Acute respiratory infections are the most common illnesses worldwide. They cause nearly four million deaths a year”
And why would that be needed? Are now to be told that we must lock down and isolate for Flu? That can be the only reason, what next the common cold? we are living in a biosecurity state. I wish Johnson would just go collect his millions from his masters and go play Hitler in Afghanistan
isn’t it ironic? They complain about the Taliban making women cover their faces and not be educated, while over here they make everyone cover their faces and get no education.
In other words,
“Over 2/3s of 18-30 year olds vaccinated”.
Thats far higher than they dared hope at the start.
Needs to stop this “beat the virus” nonsense. You can’t “beat” an endemic virus and more than you can nail vomit to a wall.
We used to say “nailing jelly to a wall”: same difference though.
Yes, but have you tried to buy a jelly lately?
p.s. There are some in Westminster who would fit the part very satisfyingly though!
I do recall that 2/3 is what you need, in the pessimistic scenarios which ignore cross immunity from other coronaviruses and assume equally likely contact between any individual and all others, for herd immunity against a virus with covid’s R0 number.
If you get cajoled and coaxed into a purchase you’re getting sold a lemon…
Don’t be a sucker, don’t be jabbed.
Thank goodness if we have 30% that can hold out there may be a future for this country after all.
Thank god some of them are listening to social media miss information. More trust worthy than government fake news.
Maybe they are just SO scared of Covid they dare not even risk a trip outside to the vaccination centre! Home visits please!
So coerce more young people to take a ‘vaccine’ that carries more risk than the virus itself, doesn’t stop you catching it and doesn’t stop you spreading it, meaning heard immunity is impossible?
All it could possibly do (allegedly) is reduce your chances of death which are close to ZERO anyway!
WOW
The Media just trumpet this crap, no questions asked !!
Technically, if someone who is jabbed then catches the virus (very plausible) then they will develop the types of T cell immunity and other frontline (before the antibodies) defences necessary to contribute to herd immunity where the vaccine itself can’t. Having had the vaccine doesn’t stop your body developing proper immunity to the virus when later exposed to it. But the point stands that if you are young you might as well just wait to catch it, and you’ve probably had it already, rather than be a drain on vaccine shots needed* for old people around the world.
*if you’re old the vaccine really can help make sure that when you met the virus, and get your true immunity afterwards, the severity of symptoms along the way is greatly reduced. So long as you are given it with your consent.
How do you know having the vaccine doesn’t stop someone developing cellular immunity when you, subsequently pick up a covid infection?
Interesting that Twatter has no problems with publishing this masterpiece of doublethink.
First, that you can “beat” an endemic coronavirus with treatments that prevent neither infection nor transmission.
And second, that the virus is imposing the despotism.
The only thing being “beaten” here are our last quirks and remnants of freedom.
Doctors surgeies are sending out surveys about why the young are, relatively, unjabbed. If you get one, fill it in and tell your doctor you’ll consider getting the jab only once all coercion and vaccine passport plans are scrapped. Infact, the young should all be emailing their doctors RIGHT NOW and asking them to add on to their medical records a comment to the effect of:
John is declining vaccination until government coercion ceases and laws are passed to ban domestic use of vaccine passports. John has no safety concerns about the vaccine, but will not tolerate a surveillance state and a two-tier society and is therefore refusing vaccination for covid-19 purely as a negotiating tactic in the battle for the return of the civil liberties of the old normal. John will break whatever laws he must to live a normal life without submitting to coercion, the government needs to back down on vaccine passports and John provides this message to make it very clear that no level of coercion, threat or inconvenience will make him reconsider his position while such threats are in use. John would be very interested in getting the vaccine once such coercive measures are scrapped.
Remember sceptics: the government has spent 18 months propagandisng the NHS as heroes, if we can turn the NHS against vaccine passports, make them see such pasports as an active threat to their precious rollout (doctors want everyone vaccinated, it is a natural opinion to reach in their position, they know passports are of no medical use though) and we cane have the “heroes” on our side and cause a very tight spot for the government.
And Dr’s get paid £12.50 for each mug coming forward – Doctors love a bit of moolah.
Story I heard recently is that doctors are in general altruistic. Still, it would be naive to dismiss it as a factor.
“Three in 10 adults under the age of 30 have not had a first dose of a Covid vaccine, according to NHS England estimates.”
But how can that be, when we’ve just been told that only 5% of young adults are “covid vaccine hesitant”? Somebody telling porkies??
“Vaccinated against covid”. From what I’ve been able to understand, that’s a somewhat generous description of what have been sold as “vaccines”. They don’t seem to work awfully well or do the things that most people understand vaccines to do.
“Getting back to the things we love…” What do you love, Boris? Having extraordinary emergency power? The magic bean that makes magic money? Endless lies no one challenges? You want us all to be jabbed and digital IDd so those thins you love continue.
Disgraceful political claptrap funded by the general public. More like an election campaign than providing a proper service to us. Thankful, it appears that there the intelligent younger people are operating in the same fashion that the ONS learnt under their survey in the Winter – see graph attached.