While the number of U.S. employees only willing to take on new staff who are vaccinated against Covid remains low, the ‘no jab, no job’ trend appears to be increasing at a worryingly high pace. A new study has found that the number of job postings requiring applicants to have been ‘jabbed’ has almost doubled in the last month. MailOnline has the story.
The number of job postings requiring vaccinations were up 90% by August 7th from the month prior, nearly doubling from the number of postings in July, according to the report by AnnElizabeth Konkel – an economist with the job board Indeed.
Konkel noted in the report that vaccination requirements in job postings increased in many sectors that had not previously mandated vaccines. Some simply required “vaccination” and others “explicitly” required inoculation against Covid.
“The share of job postings per million that require being vaccinated against Covid explicitly is up 34% compared to one month prior,” the report reads.
In comments made to CNBC, Konkel noted that even listings that don’t specifically outline vaccines for Covid it remained clear: “They don’t mean the polio vaccine.”
The report specifically highlighted the software development sector, which only had 3.5 job postings per million that stated vaccination was required in February.
The number of software development job postings per million requiring vaccination had jumped to 437.9 by July, an increase of more than 10,000%.
“It’s a similar story for other sectors like accounting, retail and marketing that don’t normally require vaccination but are now starting to,” the report reads.
Of the sectors highlighted in the report, the one with the most job postings per million requiring vaccination in July was education. There were 2,166 job postings per million requiring vaccination that month, according to Indeed. …
Companies like McDonald’s, Disney, Walmart, Google, Tyson Foods and United Airlines have said that they will require at least some workers to be fully vaccinated.
The Indeed report did not specifically address it, but MailOnline has spotted several job postings not requiring vaccination – instead providing small signing bonuses for those who are inoculated against Covid.
“New hires who show proof of their Covid vaccination earn a $100 bonus their first day,” reads a job posting for an Amazon warehouse attendant.
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The ‘not so nice’ side of me dreams of ADE being worse than feared and businesses left begging the unvaccinated to come and work for them.
I am starting to feel the same more and more each day. I also want a lot of the celebrities who’ve been very vocal about ‘anti-vaxxers’ to be filling up the hospitals.
Bear in mind that ADE is just as likely to be a consequence of prior infection as it is of vaccination.
Can you explain that to me please and point me in the direction of the research upon which you’re basing your assertion.
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/12/18/antibody-dependent-enhancement
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8339023/
From the science mag. comments especially someone posting under “Build Vaccine Trust” it looks as if the risk of ADE is more likely from a vaccine as the immunity generated by a vaccine is more likely to be incomplete or inadequate if the vaccine has design flaws.
Its also the case that many studies *do* see concerns over potential vaccine enhanced disease in this case. Severe covid isn’t due to a lack of immune response: but a dysfunctional immune response. One study termed it an “uncoordinated” response. Will the response that occurs after the vaccine fades be a functional one, or an “uncoordinated” one? That paper suggests there is a risk that vaccines that only target the spike may be at risk of vaccine enhanced disease. Regardless, since they don’t understand fully the broken response with severe covid-19, its unclear how they can yet be certain what the odds are the vaccine will be more or less likely to trigger a broken immune response that leads to severe illness. Hopefully not: the tests just haven’t gone on long enough to demonstrate it.
The issue again is what happens *after* the initial fully sterilizing immunity level of antibodies fades and the other components of the immune system are involved since an infection actually occurs, e.g. T-cells and various other aspects of it kick in (including of course generating more antibodies). As some of the studies I link notes: there isn’t a shortage of antibodies in patients with severe covid: in fact the titers may be higher. One describes the immune reaction as “uncoordinated” and suggests that a vaccine targeted only to the spike protein might be more likely to inspire an uncoordinated response.
Here is one article about that study in Science:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/09/uncoordinated-immune-response-may-explain-why-covid-19-strikes-some-hard-particularly
“And training an immune system to make strong T cell responses against SARS-CoV-2 ultimately may require using more parts of the virus in a vaccine than the spike protein alone.”
and a Cell journal article on the study:
https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0092-8674%2820%2931235-6
“” Thus, fatal COVID-19 case C92 represented an uncoordinated adaptive immune response, with neutralizing antibodies but a largely undetectable SARS-CoV-2-specific CD4+ T cell and CD8+ T cell response….A vaccine does not have to directly mimic protective immunity observed in natural infection, but should be informed by protective immunity observed in natural infection. Resolving an ongoing infection is more challenging than prophylaxis. The data presented here suggest that neutralizing antibodies play a role in resolving acute COVID-19, but statistical associations found less of a role for antibodies than SARS-CoV-2-specific CD4+ or CD8+ T cells”
https://buildvaccinetrust.wordpress.com/information/
Journal of Virology article: “There is, however, a foreseeable outcome that could set back the wider vaccine field for decades. If the first-tested vaccines fail to protect most recipients but prime or trigger an antibody or other immune response that exacerbates COVID-19 disease in people who become infected, there will be a ferocious public backlash against vaccines in general.
The consequences could be serious harm not just to the prospects for a successful COVID-19 vaccine but also for the uptake of the commonly used vaccines that are essential to the health and wellbeing of our children.”
As of Dec. 12th, 2020 the fact sheets about Pfizer’s vaccine provided by the US, UK and Canada for the public don’t mention vaccine-enhanced disease concerns, despite the FDA’s technical review acknowledging that to be an “important potential risk”.
This is basis of a lot of people’s reasoning as to why governments seem to be determined to get countries 100% vaccinated so that there is no control group and they can blame huge increase in deaths (if it happens) on a new variant.
As usual Kate, scholarly and appreciated.
The key word is “IF”. And precisely that “IF” has not materialized.
It neatly illustrates the most basic fallacy of conspiracy theorists of all kind – taking a hypothetical if-then model and convinced by the overwhelming strength of that if-then connection, assuming the if part has already become or is most likely to become true (“wishful thinking”, although the “wishes” typically go toward some apocalyptic outcome).
The amusing thing is that it’s also the same fallacy that hypochondriacs fall for (“IF I catch the disease and am unlucky, I will die” – then start acting as if it was 100% sure that you catch the disease AND are unlucky).
Of course it is true that if the vaccines were to exacerbates Covid-19 then there would a public backlash. However, there is no sign of that happening and there has been extensive work on how to avoid ADE and the vaccines continue to be monitored for ADE without any sign. The Pfizer fact sheet may not mention ADE but that doesn’t mean has been ignored.
Worth reading this.
“Despite the early signs that predicted there will be no ADE in the current corona disease, the concern of the phenomenon always looms over new vaccine development, and the new COVID-19 vaccines are no exception. Therefore, during the development of the current vaccine, tests were performed and trials were conducted in order to test for the possibility of an antibody-dependent enhancement. This possibility was the subject of a lively academic debate and numerous articles, such as articles published in PNAS in April, in Science in May and extensive literature reviews in Nature in July and September.
The subject was tested over and over again during the pre-clinical and clinical phases of the vaccine development process. Moreover, In March 2020 a large scientific committee gathered, including by experts from all over the world and led by the CEPI (Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovation), that examined the subject of COVID-19 vaccine safety specifically with regards to ADE.
In experiments performed on mice, rats and monkeys that were given the inactivated virus, there were no signs of ADE, despite the fact that an inactivated vaccine should pose greater risk for ADE as these vaccine lead to production of antibodies against many proteins of the virus, and not just against the spike protein such as the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. Therefore, it should offer a greater opportunity to manufacture a wide range of non-neutralizing antibodies.”
I just looked at one link, MTF, the “large scientific committee.” It is entirely funded by the very organisations behind this criminal conspiracy – the WHO and the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation.
Apart from that, even if there is doubt about the likelihood of ADE, which no-one can be certain of, the fundamental point is that a medication with unknown risk – serious risk – is not unleashed onto the entire world population without ill-intent.
Remember that Pfizer contract ensured that they had complete freedom from liability for any long-term side effects resulting from the use of their products. They stated they would not market it without such a guarantee as they “did not know” what the long term effects could be.
If this is a conspiracy it is possible that the effects of these injections are well understood by a small number of elite people
This is an interesting comment below the article you link to, MTF.
The commenter is questioning the validity and adequacy of the tests run by Pfizer to rule out ADE, as they used the same viral sequence (not a variant virus as would occur in natural ADE)
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/02/12/antibody-dependent-enhancement-and-the-coronavirus-vaccines
Can someone please help me understand something about the Pfizer-BioNTech’s animal study? In Pfizer’s briefing document for the FDA they site only one animal study, on page 13. In the summary of the study done on Rhesus macaques it’s stated that “there was no evidence of vaccine-elicited disease enhancement”. It also states in the footnote that two BNT162b2 variants (V8 and V9) were evaluated in the repeat-dose toxicity studies with the “same amino acid sequence”. Correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t we only see ADE’s in repeat-dose toxicity studies with differing amino acid sequences? The new variants we’re seeing now around the world have different amino acid sequences compared to the “classic”.
In Derek’s blog article he states, “animal studies (both rodents and primates) are specifically designed to look for such effects, and if ADE is seen, well, it’s back to the drawing board.” Was the Pfizer animal study design adequate enough to look for these effects? Can someone please explain how Pfizer can rule out ADE involvement when the same amino acid sequence was used in the test product as well as the repeat-dose product?
Here’s a link to Pfizer’s briefing document (page 13): https://www.fda.gov/media/144246/download
And another commenters response,
Father time is the only one who can reveal the answer. This is listed as an unknown risk in all the EUA documentation.
Hi MTF, the links you provide do not show that the risks of ADE have been ruled out. They show that the risk has been discussed by researchers and various avenues have been explored to attempt to avoid risk, but the outcome is unknown.
Also Ralph Baric turns up in these conference links you posted suspiciously often. Wasn’t he mentioned by David Martin in his testimony to Reiner Fuellmich?
Martin goes on to describe, with details of dates that specific events and evidence occurred, how academics such as Professor Ralph Baric of University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, who has specifically studied coronaviruses for three decades, have colluded with government agents such as Dr Anthony Fauci of National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), World Health Organisation and NGOs such as EcoHealth Alliance and Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. He outlines the detailed collaborations occurring with and between pharmaceutical companies who sell patents to each other and alter patent details as their awareness of discoveries and developments evolves. As outlined by Robert F Kennedy Junior with Dr Martin in their November interview, Anthony Fauci of NIAID ultimately coordinates the movements of therapeutic developments and patents, determining which researchers will undertake which projects and then which corporations will market and sell the new developments.
Kate
You have written many comments. I have tried to combine my responses in this one.
I suggest we have pursued this discussion as far as it is worth doing. Thank you for a polite and informed exchange.
Thanks. The major problem for me is that so many scientific norms have been disregarded in this pandemic, that I cannot see how anyone can maintain normal trust in the research and testing process.
My previous reply seemed to vanish so apologies for any repetition.
Of course it is true that if the vaccines exacerbate the disease then there will be a public backlash. However, the blog post you link to seems to be quite old. There have been animal and human trials exploring the possibility of ADE in the Covid vaccines, we have extensive experience of what actually happens when people are vaccinated, and the situation continues to be monitored. So far there is no evidence. The “if” is looking to be extremely unlikely.
However, my key point is that there is no more reason for enhanced disease including ADE to arise from vaccination than from prior infection. The argument that someone who was vaccinated and then infected might have a dysfunctional immune response is pure conjecture and it not born out by the evidence now that we have a large number of people who have been vaccinated and then been infected. The dysfunctional immune response is a response to the disease not the vaccine.
I would say that you’re unable to make the assertion that they’re not finding evidence of ADE in the vaccinated who subsequently become seriously ill and die because they’re actively not looking for it by not performing autopsies.
My understanding is that all animal trials undertaken for previous corona vaccines did indeed end up with catastrophic levels of ADE.
I would say that you’re unable to make the assertion that they’re not finding evidence of ADE in the vaccinated who subsequently become seriously ill and die because they’re actively not looking for it by not performing autopsies.
Do you need an autopsy to determine if someone died because of ADE? I have no idea. I would be interested to read your source.
My understanding is that all animal trials undertaken for previous corona vaccines did indeed end up with catastrophic levels of ADE.
I am pretty sure your understanding is wrong.
I think it is very difficult if not impossible to determine whether someone died of ADE as it is indistinguishable from a severe case of covid. However, one autopsy that was done in germany found virus in all body tissues, which suggests that the virus had access to tissues it would not normally be able to access. I seem to remember that the elderly gentleman had been double vaxxed, but cannot find the link now..
There’s in silico evidence that the vaccines may be more likely to cause ADE with the delta variant https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(21)00392-3/fulltext
Sure.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/coronavirus/video-2433559/Dr-David-Bauer-Pfizer-vaccine-produces-fewer-key-antibodies.html
ADE is caused by non-neutralising antibodies. Vaccine induced immunity elicits several times the number of them than natural immunity.
Yes – but it matters which non-neutralising antibodies. The ones that have given most signs of ADE in related viruses (SARS etc) are responding to the N protein. Vaccines do not include the N protein – partly for this reason – natural immunity of course produces all the proteins in the virus.
As a matter of interest why did you link to the Daily Mail video which doesn’t mention non-neutralising antibodies? It appears to be about this paper which explains that the Pfizer vaccine produces less antibodies against the Delta variant than it did against previous variants. Interesting but unrelated.
Sure – both infection and vaccination result in the production of a wide range of antibodies. Some of these neutralise the pathogen and that’s good news. Many do nothing much at all. Occasionally an antibody will actually help the pathogen – most often by helping it invade macrophages which are normally off-limits. There is no reason why the antibodies created by vaccines should be any more likely to do this than the antibodies created by infection (as happens most famously with dengue fever). In fact one of the reasons the vaccines target the specific part of the spike protein is that experience from SARS suggests that other parts of the virus such as the N protein are more likely to lead to ADE than the S protein – infection will of course lead to antibodies responding to all parts of the virus including the N protein.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/91648
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/02/12/antibody-dependent-enhancement-and-the-coronavirus-vaccines
There was an interesting rumour a while ago, MTF, where a researcher had found the N protein in the vaccine, and wanted to know why it was there! As yes, the Nucleocapsid protein is definitely associated with ADE.
He will try! You either believe natural immunity tops vaccine immunity by a mile as I do, or you don’t. You believe that ADE is mainly a problem of vaccination, which I do, or you don’t. In both instances I believe the sensible science is on my side.
MTF fully worships the Golden Vaccine God. Nothing that you ask or say will alter his pseudo-religious belief…so don’t bother.
Pretty sure that nothing I say will alter your belief!
Actually I have learned a number of things on this forum which have modified my beliefs:
I don’t think natural immunity versus vaccine immunity is just a matter of belief as you apparently do. First you can’t say one is better than the other, they are just different, and second this is based on evidence not belief.
Thanks for your input, MTF, please ignore the hostility. Many are here to become better informed and your links provide food for thought.
It is incredibly difficult to find unbiased information from governmental sources. For me, the worst thing about this debacle is vaccinating entire populations, whether people have recovered from infection or not. This muddies the water in terms of vaccine results.
The unhelpful reporting of how many vaccinated/non-vaccinated are in hospitals. Are some of these non-vaccinated because they are to frail to be vaccinated? What is the age profile? Are hospitalized patients sicker with the Delta variant? Has the co-morbidity profile changed?
I find that the problem is becoming even more complicated and so is the question of who (and when) to vaccinate.
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Thanks for your input, MTF, please ignore the hostility. Many are here to become better informed and your links provide food for thought.
Thanks. I am not concerned about hostility (or I would have stopped long ago!). It comes with the internet. However, it is nice to know that some people do not mind my comments. I, also, do this to become better informed.
I guess the reason for vaccinating those who have been infected is that it seems to reduce your risk of reinfection:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm?s_cid=mm7032e1_w
MTF spouting bo**ocks agin – who would have thunk it?
Or even better, firms being sued into bankruptcy by employees ending up in hospital or worse because their employer took it upon themselves to give medical advice.
Friend got the vax back in June. Last time we spoke, about a month ago he was rather condescending in his attitude to my reasons for not getting it. Along the lines of, ‘Okay, you’re taking in a lot of contradictory information right now. It’s understandable that you’re hesitant. But once you work through all that, you’ll get vaccinated.’
Saw him again yesterday, first time in about a month. Got the distinct impression he didn’t want to talk. And he especially didn’t want to talk about the vaccine.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I think I caught a whiff of vaxxer’s remorse.
America the land of the
freeJabbedIf the non vaxed hold out, the policy will fail. Companies that recruit regardless of vaccine status will have a competitive advantage.
Last I heard 52% of Americans have not had the vax. The other side have a long way to go.
As there is a high correlation between socio-economic groupings and vaccination as well as a less well correlated link to voting patterns; this is tantamount to saying ‘no blacks or latinos need apply’ and ‘red voters need not apply’. I think it wont be long before these policies are tested in courts.
This came up a few days ago; the low educated aligning with the well educated on vaxx skepticism, with the bulk in the middle happily rolling up the sleeve.
It’s a bit like Douglas Adams’ B Ark scenario. Hope we don’t lose all the telephone sanitisers.
They are not worried about infections, they just want to ensure that all their new workers are fully compliant with whatever instructions they are given!
Anyone willingly agreeing to work for a company with a culture of control like this deserves all they get.
Many have families to house and feed, can’t easily pick up and move etc. I think you under appreciate the excruciating dilemmas the mandates present.
I’m talking about new would be recruits (admittedly they too face the same dilemmas you cite) as I think existing staff are in a stronger position to resist.
Genuinely, what is happening here? Have the USA no access to the data coming from Israel, Seychelles, Malta, Gibraltar?
Are they not listening to their own CDC updates?……. ‘Vaccinated People With Breakthrough Infections Can Spread The Delta Variant, CDC Says’‘CDC also found no significant difference in the viral load present in the breakthrough infections occurring in fully vaccinated people and the other cases, suggesting the viral load of vaccinated and unvaccinated persons infected with the coronavirus is similar.’
Are people aware that in the last week alone another 10.000 Americans have filed serious adverse events in relation to the Jabz?
Why is no one asking why the FDA quietly added ‘black-box’ warnings on the paper inserts for the Jabz regarding serious heart issues associated with the Jabz, which have risen exponentially?
How on earth is this all being ignored!
Pfizer have made 33 billion as of last week from the CV vax. I also hear that the current economic system is about to be rolled up and a digital one substituted, so why not asset strip as much as you can while you can?
Initially I thought this was the major motivation in the “pandemic” but was taken aback at the eagerness to vax pre pubescent children. The harms resulting from this reckless and exploitative policy cannot hope to be concealed in a normal world.
What is going on is so outrageously abnormal that it is clear that the other side does not envisage a return to the old standards of medical diligence and scientific responsibility. They have effectively destroyed all trust in civil society.
It appears that we are being propelled into a new dark age if these powers have their way.
To be fair, this has been happening to countries attacked by the west for the past fifty years. What is new is that our governments have turned on their own people.
Wear Pink socks
I have found that Pink sock wearing has the same effect as the vaccine, I believe their needs to be a Pink sock pass.
Pink socks like the vaccine do not stop me getting the virus or spreading it, but I do believe if I get the virus I will be less ill than I otherwise would have been. Just as there is no evidence or proof that the vaccine makes you less ill, there is no evidence that can be produced to disprove my belief in Pink socks.
Did you start the process with your left or your right foot? And did you have to wait 8 weeks to be double-socked? {Asking for a friend.}
Left foot and I was brave and did both socks at the same time, I thought it was the good thing to do to protect others
Stand by, as this is coming our way as well.
I’m sure every level of government has been nudging the private sector to implement this garbage. At the corporate level I wouldn’t doubt some cash in suitcase promises have been made to get this done.
The unjabbed must form their own pressure groups.
Refuse to do business with any firm demanding vaxes.
Hit them where it hurts.
That’s a miniscule proportion of the job ads, even if it is growing! Must be a quiet news day.
Just stop buying from companies that do this, and sell any shares in those companies they will soon get the message
Perhaps good ol’ capitalist greed will win out yet again. The profit bottom line, increase in share price, etc, which determines CEOs’ remuneration, has always spoken loudest and if vaxx-exclusive businesses watch their profits fall from boycotts, or from denying themselves access to the best employee talent, or from losing market share to more vaxx-liberal rivals, then their fear of unvaxxed staff will weaken.
At least, that’s what part of me hopes.