Conservative MP Andrew Bridgen says vaccine passports represent a “serious infringement on people’s liberties” and that he doesn’t believe they will actually be introduced. He told LBC radio that, if the Government is serious about its plans, Parliament should be recalled so as to allow for proper scrutiny. He is quoted in the Guardian:
This is a very serious infringement on people’s liberties, it is basically unprecedented in this country, and I and a number of colleagues would oppose it.
I think it is a very blunt instrument, to threaten people with domestic Covid passports. I personally don’t think it would get through the House of Commons in any event and that’s why the Government has moved on to this ‘carrot’ inducements for young people.
Bridgen, an ally of Boris Johnson during the Brexit campaign, accused the Government of “trying to aggressively coerce these young people” into getting vaccinated but said plans would not pass through the House of Commons. He did, however, concede that the Government could introduce vaccine passports by other means. He told LBC:
If [the Government] uses the emergency powers, they probably could argue with lawyers that they could bring [vaccine passports] in without having a vote in the House of Commons. But I think that is a step far too far for Boris Johnson and this Government. …
If we can’t get out of this pandemic with our levels of vaccination and antibodies, there is very little chance for the rest of the world. They will be all watching what we do in the U.K. and I think going to domestic vaccine passports would be an authoritarian step far too far.
His comments follow criticism from within the Cabinet of plans to introduce vaccine passports, with one member saying: “It’s not who we are.”
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“‘If we can’t get out of this pandemic with our level of vaccination, there’s very little chance for the rest of the world.”
Err … there is no pandemic in the proper (previous) definition of the word. Nor has there ever been since 2019.
In the UK, there hasn’t ever been an epidemic (as officially defined – +40 in 10000 population), either.
Without an emergency how would they shift the ‘gear’?
Sadly I feel most Conservative MPs are Communist. There care little of Bioethics Laws
COVID-19 Injection Campaign Violates Bioethics Laws Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/08/01/covid-vaccine-bioethics-concerns.aspx?ui=1fb065e0c4152b58bd4ed94cf29c7cbfad40307fb723460ddabacd55f3c58b0c&sd=20210518&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20210801_HL2&mid=DM945487&rid=1223038921
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I was going to say “emergency powers – what emergency?” Worst year for deaths since 2008 last year (if one accepts for the sake of argumented age and population adjusted excess mortality) – and that was without “vaccines”. Never was an emergency of course (unless caused by the lockdowns), and this should have been clear to everyone by April last year. And certainly when it became clear infections peaked before lockdown.
This suppoed rump of 50 or so ersatz Tory rebels who occasionally mumble something utterly feeble like ‘serious infringement’ are woefully transparent in their aims..
For any Conservative MP to vote for Vaccine Passports in any context would be a disgraceful and shameful act.
These 50+ ‘rebels’ need to shit or get off the pot – they’ve been limply waving their flag of mild discombobulation for far too long. They convince nobody.
Stand up or STFU.
Very well put. Clowns.
What precisely do you think they should do and what would be the likely consequences?
I’m under no illusions about how bad Parliament has been and this lot took time to wake up and are too pro-vaxx for my liking, but beyond speaking and voting against all this, what else can they do?
They have some options but none of them seem likely to lead to anything particularly helpful for our cause
Resign from the party?
Yes, that could be an option. It might form the basis of an anti-lockdown rump in parliament and encourage others to join them.
I was thinking they could threaten to bring down the government by voting against them on everything but that could backfire.
Resigning is probably the minimum one would expect, though it would be a largely empty gesture I think. They may be tempted but think they can influence things more from the inside. I think they are probably wrong, but what do I know?
I don’t think they are dishonourable.
It’s not rocket science. Just vote against (not threaten to) any fascist measures related to Covid that should offend the wateriest democrat. The government would soon change tack.
Of course – you might be threatened by the Blueshirt Party that gifted your sinecure, and come the next GE you may wet your knickers. But that’s principle and guts – and doing your job.
Yes. I know. Pigs flying over the pigs at the trough.
Didn’t some pro-Brussels M.P.s resign? (No)Change UK I think it was.
If they had any principles or love of their country they would indeed resign and create a faction against the Government. However, modern politicians are career animals with no thought whatsoever of serving their people in the traditional patriotic way.
Do what proper politicians with conviction always used to do, stand on a fucking soapbox in Hyde Park Corner and be heard!
They’re too scared to do face the electorate. They hide behind television screens and newspaper articles.
IF They Were Real Politicians They Would Do So!!! They’re lazy now & just leave it to the people!!!
Kill the fat pig
Resign the Whip and sit as Independent Conservatives. With one move, they’d remove the Cowardly Lion’s majority and he’d have the choice of a General Election; forming a Coalition or relying on Labour.
Written to my local conservative MP. I think he will vote against, its the rest of them we need to be concerned about!!
Swayne’s speeches in the HOC have been pretty forceful in condemning the government. I suppose they could start to network with anti-lockdown parties and movements outside parliament. They probably still hope it can be turned round, or they are simply stumped as to what else to do. As are the rest of us.
As I’ve written before, they should break away from the Conservative party in protest and see if that has some destabilising effect or sparks some public awakening.
It’s a long shot, but it’s no skin off my nose. It makes no difference to me if it’s Andrew Bridgens and Steve Baker or someone else in Parliament.
Break away and call themselves the ‘Real Conservative Party’, that would be a start!
I’ve written to mine (Labour), saying they are medically & scientifically incoherent, discriminatory, coercive and morally repugnant.
Bet I never get a reply.
Direct action? (some posters/stickers around their constituency to that effect for example).
Well I’m not writing to mine this year. His reply last year revealed that he’s obsessed with the ‘vaccination’ plan. Not much chance of him changing his mind in the short term. All the junior ministers are in hock, of course.
Another invertebrate parasitic poliartician…
Controlled invertebrate opposition.
Who is controlling them, how and why?
If you don’t have an inkling you probably never will.
Humour me
Well, while we must concede that we cannot be certain, and can’t know, we can assume that BIG BLUBBER‘s meetings with Bill Gates, who has invested heavily in BIG PHARMA and has been talking for decades of the need to reduce the human population through vaccination, have some unsavoury aspect to them that hints at Blubber serving Gates’ interests.
Add in Klaus Schwabb (the double of Ernst Blofeld), George Soros and a hundred other megalomaniacally psychopathic Bond villains, and you can start to form some theories of a global conspiracy.
A lot passes over Julian’s head.
Listen to this excellent interview; it succinctly maps out by whom, what, how when & why.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtuIWPl7of0
Also, this great piece too:
https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/the-not-so-great-carbon-reset
Oh fuck off
You really know how to debate, and to be part of a movement which is tiny and desperately in need of numbers and of unity, by debating different points of view and accepting that people can be on the same side as you but not agree with your interpretation of events.
Yours is the perspective of the timid, middlebrow little man who has nothing to offer to anyone but fears insignificance. There can be no unity with anyone who does not and cannot agree with one’s interpretation of events and debate with opponents is practically useless when action is needed.
This guy for one – Lord Jacob Rothschild
Further information about The Controllers:
https://twitter.com/MrLilburne
Here is some more information although I disagree with some of what he author writes, there is some great information in here:
The New Underworld Order: Curse of Criminalism, Dark Actors Playing Games: The Global Fantasies of the Geomasonic Illuminati
https://www.pdfdrive.com/the-new-underworld-order-curse-of-criminalism-dark-actors-playing-games-the-global-fantasies-of-the-geomasonic-illuminati-e157016574.html
Sadly I feel most Conservative MPs are Communist. There care little of Bioethics Laws
COVID-19 Injection Campaign Violates Bioethics Laws Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/08/01/covid-vaccine-bioethics-concerns.aspx?ui=1fb065e0c4152b58bd4ed94cf29c7cbfad40307fb723460ddabacd55f3c58b0c&sd=20210518&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20210801_HL2&mid=DM945487&rid=1223038921
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They aren’t anything just greedy fat pigs with their snout in the trough
I have long since given up trying to work out whether and which politicians actually believe in anything other than their own hides, bank balances, expenses and juicy future pensions. Most of this make-believe rebellion is just window-dressing and arse-covering “Not me, Guv”. The constant recommendations to “write to your MP” is just nonsense. Mine employs a staff of gatekeepers to churn out the Party Line in letters either insulting or patronising, usually both; likely has no idea of what is being said or asked; and couldn’t give a fig anyway.
As for Labour, they are the embodiment of “The Blob”, albeit lacking in the dynamism of that alien. If, however, they are the Cavalry to the Rescue, their leader will have them milling around in a circle for evermore, going neither forwards nor backwards.
If they got an avalanche of letters they would take note
But they don’t because most people are apathetic or support the corona madness
I’m not sure they would. Mine doesn’t even give me the courtesy of a reply, not even to say bugger off. And he votes with the government every time. Pathetic little Tory boy, holding on for his fat salary, expenses and pension, and sod the constituents
Alternatively you could choose to believe that at least some of them have be belatedly woken up
They’ve probably destroyed any chance they had of a ministerial position so I hardly see how it could be self interest
Mine (Damian Green) has already lost any chance of being in the cabinet again due to his dodgy laptop contents. And at 65 is in the last throws of his career. He says he’s against internal passports but will he make a stand and risk his reputation? Of course he won’t. Far too many lucrative retirement deals to be had if he keeps his head down.
How would you define “making a stand”?
Try answering the question (genuine one) instead of downvoting. I have no more liking for these MPs than you do I imagine, but they cannot perform miracles. So what do we mean by “making a stand”? Speaking or voting against the measure – he’ll most likely do that. Resign from the party – possibly useful but more of a gesture than anything concrete? Self-immolation?
“Try answering the question (genuine one) instead of downvoting.”
I’m afraid some, like MPs, don’t have the ability to understand the question, let alone attempt an answer.
It wasn’t me that down voted.
I would like to see MPs resign if they feel their party is overstepping the boundaries.
I agree. What good does it do us to scream insults at those who speak out in our cause?
‘Self interest’ comes in many forms, as does ‘self delusion’ and ‘significance’. It isn’t just money and power, although these are dominant.
being coerced for a pizza, not even pharma shares
It’s the flippancy of the people who support these measures that gets me.
‘Oh just get the jab’
‘Its only a mask no big deal’
‘It’s only giving your contact details to go for a beer’
Yes, individually, perhaps they could be argued as small inconveniences, but together, they total a very big shift in the fabric of our society, and yet people are seemingly more than happy to go along with it.
Ask questions, step back and you can see this is all smoke and mirrors.
Dumb animals that can’t think two steps ahead
That’s just language: The people who want all these policies keep claiming they’d just be “minor inconveniencies”. That’s more marketing: They want others to regard them as minor despite they absolutely aren’t.
Masks have caused me serious inconvenience, including pain, for a long time. Until Susan Michie came clean with the confession that they weren’t ever meant be “because of COVID”, just someting she had always wanted to introduce “for general public health reasons” and COVID just provided an opportunity for that.
The next time I found myself waiting in a supermarket queue, with my heart hammering and with flashes of pain all over my body, wondering whether I shouldn’t just leave just to be able to breathe freely again, I thought something like “Am I crazy? Why I’m hurting myself just because this [censored] female member of some canine species wants that?!?” and took it off. Nobody as tried to even talk me into wearing one since (NB: 3 weeks before so-called freedom day).
One Branch Covidian compared the flouting of restrictions with keep your lights on during the Blitz.
He was then butthurt when I said he would have been on the side of the Nazis during the Blitz.
Perhaps he thought your assertion as stupid as I think it.
Certainly, your post is stupid.
His Branch Covidian post was totalitarian
Good man but I fear too many in Labour and Conservative are looking forward to the uniforms and jackboots
bridgen brady bakeretc. talk nicely but if serious they should have been on the podium last Saturday, 24 July in Trafalgar Sq. and should be leading the next rally on 28 August
Just how exactly does a “passport” provide protection from ANY disease, illness or virus?
Absolute bollox and nonsense. The logic borders on medieval.
Our mediaeval ancestors were no less logical than we are.
On the contrary, they were utterly irrational and, unfortunately, rationality has been rejected in the modern age, hence the return to mediaeval superstition.
The problem is the Snivel Serpents. They have been forty years under a socialist project and have no respect for true democracy. They have bit by bit sold our democracy to the globalists for eight pieces of silver. They have lost the art of discernment, strategy and diplomacy. They only know appeasement. They have subsequently been giving bad advice to an already supine Government.
We have no one in Westminster who is a true conservative or libertarian. Who believes in free will and family autonomy. Unless this country realises their future is about to be destroyed by evil and ignores everything this green socialist government says, we are all lost souls.
Why is no body screaming “ coercion” which is against international law.
Boris and his so called scientists are deeply involved in mind control and deep coercion.
They must be punished for this, my vote will not be going to Conservatives at the very least!
‘They must be punished for this, my vote will not be going to Conservatives at the very least!‘
That’ll stop them.