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Threatening the Unvaccinated With Social Penalties Flies in the Face of Informed Consent

by Toby Young
13 August 2021 1:11 PM

We’re publishing an original piece on the Daily Sceptic by a senior executive in a pharmaceutical company about why penalising those who haven’t had a Covid vaccine is contrary to the principle of informed consent. Here is an extract:

Unlike the benefit, the safety risks associated with SARS-CoV-2 vaccinations are not age dependent and include rare, serious adverse events including death. So, the balance of benefit and risk for their use also varies with age and is vastly different for a diabetic man in his 60s compared to a healthy young woman in her 20s. From the perspective of the benefit to the individual, there is therefore no way we should be considering vaccinating healthy young people using these vaccines. The likelihood of serious adverse effects may be small but then so is the likelihood of avoiding serious COVID-19 and so there is a very real possibility that a mass vaccination campaign of young people will produce more harm than benefit. In fact, the original strategy was to focus COVID-19 vaccinations on the over-50s for precisely this benefit/risk reason.

But somewhere along the way, COVID-19 vaccinations stopped being solely about the benefit to the individual and started to be about the benefit to society (i.e., the goal of achieving herd immunity). A brief reminder: herd immunity occurs when a sufficient proportion of a population is immune to a given pathogen in such a way that the likelihood of encountering an infectious person drops, as does the likelihood of an infectious person being able to pass the infection on to another individual who also becomes infectious. As a result, herd immunity protects individuals who are naïve to an infection simply because they are unlikely to ever encounter an infectious person and at the same time it means that an infection can no longer spread effectively through the population and may even die out.

Vaccinations can produce herd immunity and in the case of smallpox were so effective that they led to the elimination of the disease itself. But from an informed consent perspective there is one huge difference between vaccination campaigns that have historically produced herd immunity and that being pursued for COVID-19 and that is that historically the diseases concerned were of significant risk to those receiving the vaccination. For example, measles is a significant risk for young children and so we vaccinate young children. But young children often grow up to be adults and carry their measles immunity with them and so, as a result, measles herd immunity emerges as a consequence of measles vaccination… it is absolutely not its aim.

Worth reading in full.

Stop Press: For a diametrically opposite view, see this piece in Salon: “It’s OK to blame the unvaccinated – they are robbing the rest of us of our freedoms.”

Tags: Informed consentVaccines

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
3 years ago

It also flies in the face of basic human rights, but let’s not get bogged down in details, right?

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

This website must surely realise that what is going in it pure evil. If politician care about people they would let waves of illegal immigrants cross the channel helps the the RNLI and the Royal Navy

People Starting to get Suspicious / Woke US Athletes Ruining the Olympics?
Sanity 4 Sweden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol6xgzGG91I

Stand in South Hill Park Bracknell every Sunday from 10am meet fellow anti lockdown freedom lovers, keep yourself sane, make new friends and have a laugh.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
3 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

So… you want politicians to let waves of illegal immigrants cross the channel cause it helps the RNLI and the Royal Navy? Cause if that’s not what you want, you might want to check your spelling.

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

You might want to check your manners.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

You might want to check your accusations. I would be very curious to hear exactly what’s wrong with my manners and what exactly is it that I said that you consider to be rude.

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Mike Durrans
Mike Durrans
3 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Are you so perfect that you never have a typo

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike Durrans

What does that have to do with anything? Besides the fact that you don’t need to be a spelling and typing expert to spot a typo, this isn’t about just misspelling things. Notice how I didn’t point out any mistyped words. I am talking about the message itself, which appears to say the opposite of what is intended. Says a lot about you that not only did you not read my post, but you didn’t even read the post I was responding to. What is even your point?

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

Look, chap, we all want our dopamine hits, but posting random-sentence-generator gibberish spam as the reply to the first comment in every thread is getting a bit tedious.

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Well said.

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lorrinet
lorrinet
3 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

“If politician care about people they would let waves of illegal immigrants cross the channel helps the the RNLI and the Royal Navy”.

I think you meant to say “would NOT”??

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago

Excellent article. Back last November I wrote to the Attorney General warning that all the attempts to bamboozle people by denying information or bullying them undermined the government’s legal position over damage. Of course, if they are sued I suppose it will be the taxpayer who foots the bill.

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Will
Will
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

There is going to be the mother and father of class actions, over the vaccines, when people wake up to the government’s coercive activities and the impact they have had on informed consent…

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kate
kate
3 years ago
Reply to  Will

you ned a functioning judiciary for that, and I’m not sure we have one left now.

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Jabba the Hut
Jabba the Hut
3 years ago

Can someone email this to the BBC and ITV so the arse holes can realise what they’re doing by pushing this shit.

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wendy
wendy
3 years ago
Reply to  Jabba the Hut

I don’t think the BBC or ITV care about what they are doing.

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  Jabba the Hut

They are part of the Covid scam, you’ll get no change out of those corrupt organisations.

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LMS2
LMS2
3 years ago
Reply to  Jabba the Hut

They’re already bought and paid for by the pro-vaccine side. Unless we can come up with several £million or more, they’re not going to change their tune.

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NonCompliant
NonCompliant
3 years ago

Perfect summation of this shambles. Criminals in charge, will they get the votes?

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago

This website must surely realise that what is going in it pure evil. If politician care about people they would let waves of illegal immigrants cross the channel helps the the RNLI and the Royal Navy

People Starting to get Suspicious / Woke US Athletes Ruining the Olympics?
Sanity 4 Sweden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol6xgzGG91I

Stand in South Hill Park Bracknell every Sunday from 10am meet fellow anti lockdown freedom lovers, keep yourself sane, make new friends and have a laugh.

Join our Stand in the Park – Bracknell – Telegram Group
http://t.me/astandintheparkbracknell

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Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
3 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

RNLI run by woke cunts that don’t risk their life’s you are a mug if you volunteer or contribute, read about the Whitby crew.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  Jaguarpig

Unadulterated illogical bollocks.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

You may want to check your random sentence generator, it seems to be a bit defective.

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Amtrup
Amtrup
3 years ago

I think that this sentence ( below ) needs urgent copy-editing, as currently it sounds as if the author is saying that the likelihood of experiencing serious Covid-19 is high/large in young people, which of course it isn’t! 🙂 : “The likelihood of serious adverse effects may be *small* but then *so is the likelihood of avoiding serious COVID-19* and so there is a very real possibility that a mass vaccination campaign of young people will produce more harm than benefit”.

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  Amtrup

The likelihood of serious adverse effects from the Covid vaccines, that aren’t vaccines, simply isn’t known. There is no basis to speculate that it will or may be “small”.

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LMS2
LMS2
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

It’s becoming known, and it’s not good.

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Have a watch of this. It makes for scary viewing & perfectly illustrates why the individual’s right to consent to medical treatment should remain paramount.
A PATHOLOGIST SUMMARY OF WHAT THESE JABS DO TO THE BRAIN AND OTHER ORGANS (rumble.com)

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dante
dante
3 years ago

“I am absolutely not saying that current policies amount to anything like this, the resonance here should make even the most ardent proponent of vaccine compulsion uncomfortable. ”

But it doesn’t though does it! In fact Government policies allow the “most ardent proponents of vaccine compulsion” a sense of justified morality.

Is it not also the time for people in positions like this author to step into the light?

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Norman
Norman
3 years ago
Reply to  dante

When you know yourself to be righteous, then your actions do not need justification.

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thinkcriticall
thinkcriticall
3 years ago

Watch the Gov of Arkansas get it, powerful stuff.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1426162558520725510

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Norman
Norman
3 years ago

Could it be that younger people are more able to seek out the figures on the internet rather than believe what the media and government tell them. Certainly the case with my 33 yo son who is refusing all vaccinations on balance of risk grounds (aka informed dissent).

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JYC
JYC
3 years ago

This is a general question, not related to the topic. My employer is expecting me to take a temperature check when I return to the office. What right do they have to insist on that?

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SweetBabyCheeses
SweetBabyCheeses
3 years ago
Reply to  JYC

Absolutely none.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  JYC

I would say none.

The problem is that one generally doesn’t want to have a fight with one’s employer.

The trick is to find a non-confrontational way of resisting what they are trying to force you.

Could you very softly just say: look, this is intrusive. I totally understand you want to make sure.that no one who is ill comes to the office. I promise to check my own temperature before.coming in. If I come in, it’s because I don’t have a temperature. Presumably you don’t think I will lie to you about something this serious?

At the very least you put them in the very awkward position of telling you to your face that you may be a liar.

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PatrickF
PatrickF
3 years ago
Reply to  JYC

Neither do they have the right to ask about what underwear you’re wearing, or not.

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caipirinha17
caipirinha17
3 years ago
Reply to  JYC

They don’t have a ‘right’ but it might be reasonable if they can give a sound explanation. Have they done health and safety risk assessments that show temp checks would mitigate an identified risk? What are they looking to achieve by taking your temperature? Have they been instructed to do so by their liability insurers? Some employers don’t take too kindly to their staff questioning their decisions but as long as you do so in a discreet way you should be ok. If you’re in the UK please bear in mind that in the first 2 years of employment there’s far less on your side.

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mishmash
mishmash
3 years ago
Reply to  JYC

No right whatsoever, same with mandating masks and soon vaccines.
But we keep putting up with it, so they keep doing it.

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zners
zners
3 years ago

Hearing death rates in Republican States are creeping up? Is this the CDC again fudging numbers?

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wendy
wendy
3 years ago

What has happened to the contribution of natural immunity? Just dismissed and not talked about but it must play a significant role.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
3 years ago
Reply to  wendy

The reason they are ignoring our immune systems is because they are intent on destroying them, once destroyed you will have to depend on boosters to keep you going!

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Will
Will
3 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

And boosters for everything, if the jabs wipe the immune system of it’s cellular immunity. People don’t realise that immunity can be wiped. My daughter has her immunity to MMR and chicken pox checked on a regular basis because of her autoimmune condition. Just imagine if 30% of those vaccinated have lost their immunity to measles…

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kate
kate
3 years ago
Reply to  Will

Interesting. Do you have links to relevant research please?

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RW
RW
3 years ago

There’s logic error in here: If the unvaccinated are a danger to the broader vaccinated population, it follows that the vaccine doesn’t protect said broader population, hence, increasing the number of people who are vulnerable despite vaccination accomplishes nothing (minus selling vaccine doses).

The proponents of mandatory-vaccination-in-all-but-the-name usually try to get around this claiming that they believe it will reduce the unknown risk of getting COVID by an unknown amount. But this just means that they believe something despite they don’t have any evidence to prove it and other people’s unsubstantiated beliefs don’t justify use of coercive force.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

Very little of the government’s response has been logical, though, has it?

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Trojan House
Trojan House
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

Actually, he does address it in the column. He says the vaccine could reduce the severity of the disease, that is, if you actually get it. These are “leaky” vaccines meaning they don’t provide any immunity whatsoever, they just reduce symptoms. They are very much like flu vaccines.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Trojan House

This statement has absolutely no relation to mine and vaccination doesn’t provide symptom relief, only immunity (to some degree). This may – in turn – lead to the immune system eliminating the pathogens before serious symptoms develop.

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

There is no hard evidence that the vaccines provide symptom relief. If on the other hand the vaccines only provide partial immunity to Covid-19, then it is very likely that the vaccines will themselves cause the virus to become increasingly vaccine resistant.

It is a standard tenet of vaccinology, that mass vaccinating into the teeth of an epidemic with a non-sterilising vaccine is bad practice, being an almost certain way of encouraging a virus to mutate and become resistant to that vaccine. This is exactly what Geert Vanden Bossche was warning about in the spring of 2021. Of course, not that many were listening.

What Vanden Bossche was saying is well known, so that for me, it indicates that those instigating the mass vaccinations wanted to make things worse or perhaps more likely that the injections have a real purpose that is totally unrelated to preventing or ameliorating Covid-19, whatever it really is.

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Will
Will
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

This is the reason why there is such resistance to vaccination of Badgers, bovines and fecking Alpacas to TB.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Trojan House

Glorified bloody aspirin but about 1,000 times more dangerous.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

I think the proponents of mandatory-vaccination-in-all-but-the-name at the very highest level know it’s got no health benefit. Vallance and Whitty et al are not stupid, and neither is the PM. I think they are drunk on power.

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Trojan House
Trojan House
3 years ago

When an excellent post! Something I’ve been trying to tell people, such as friends and in comment sections online, but it is entirely lost on people. It’s no wonder the atrocities of the past were committed as one can see how easily people can be manipulated.

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RW
RW
3 years ago

It’s OK to blame the unvaccinated — they are robbing the rest of us of our freedoms.

Not in the mood to even look at this: Your freedoms were taken from you long before vaccination became an option. Hence, they cannot now be robbed from you and not by other people whose were also taken from them.

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dpj
dpj
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

I found the whole article unintentionally hilarious. The argument is full of holes and seems to want to blame everything on Trump supporters.

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago
Reply to  dpj

The sad thing is that it is idiotic (amusing) rants like this that Joe Bloggs is believing, not the nuanced debate.

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Will
Will
3 years ago
Reply to  BurlingtonBertie

I am not so sure they are. With every passing day, more people know fully vaccinated people who have caught covid. Arguments in favour of vaccine passports cannot stand up to that lived experience. I don’t follow what the, appalling, man has to say, but I imagine even Piers Moron has gone quiet on the idea of vax papers.

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Hester
Hester
3 years ago
Reply to  Will

I am not so sure in terms of people waking up. My friend who is double vaccinated, both of her young adult children recently took their first “vaccination” both are now very sick WITH Covid, but my friend says “think how ill they would have been if they hadn’t had the vaccine”. I replied that I thought the drug was supposed to immunise, was she certain the vaccine hadn’t actually caused the illness. She would not entertain such a concept. Sorry but the Public have accepted the brainwashing, that a vaccine that was supposed to confer immunity when it came out, which subsequently has stopped nothing, and so the propaganda line of if you hadn’t had it you would die wheras now you won’t has been bought. People seem to have forgotten it was the very old and sick that died and that over 99 percent who caught covid survived. Hats off to the Goebbels in Westminster they pulled off the lie.

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OnceIWasARemainer
OnceIWasARemainer
3 years ago

Unless shown as an example of the deluded thinking of our opponents that Salon article is NOT ok. To suggest that anyone, the vaccine refusing, the hesitant or the already-jabbed, should loose any freedoms because they or someone else wasn’t jabbed is to suggest lockdowns were a)effective and b)proportionate. Rather than merely describing as “diametrically opposite” all sceptics should define that article as a symptom of mental degeneration, it is not the vaccine hesistant/refusing who are denying others freedom, it is the lockdownist fools who are too scared to tolerate a true return to normality and are now trying to use the unjabebd as scapegoats for their mistakes. Given the beliefs of the typical lockdownist even if all the unjabebd were somehow miraculously vaxxed overnight, they’d find a new reason to deny people their freedoms.

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Hester
Hester
3 years ago
Reply to  OnceIWasARemainer

These People are no better than the Nazi’s they are inciting violence and hatred of a segment of society, they are dangerous,

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago

“The likelihood of serious adverse effects may be small”

Weee..ll. It depends on your criterion. If one judges by the normal threshold for judging medicines ‘safe’, then the likelihood is quite extraordinary, and minor adverse events astoundingly common.

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Norman
Norman
3 years ago

Testing is still running at over 800k per day and “positives” are running at around 30,00 per day. When testing goes down positives go down. Maybe there is some link (sarcasm, in case you didn’t realise).

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Hester
Hester
3 years ago
Reply to  Norman

Exactly wait till September the kids back at school and university, the testing madness will start again the cases/infections or whatever they call a positive these days will go up again and hey presto just intime for Johnson to extend the emergency laws and bring in another Lockdown, Its so patronisingly insulting you couldn’t make it up, and the press and the sheep will lap it up without question, and we will all be back down the Rabbit hole again in time for Christmas. But this time Johnson has someone to blame doesn’t he? The unvaccinated or should we call them the disobedient, the threat to his total dominance. He will use his psyops team to create propaganda which will lead to unvaccinated people being targetted and attacked, mark my words.

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Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
3 years ago

Fuck of Toby you arse creeping cunt

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Norman
Norman
3 years ago
Reply to  Jaguarpig

Impressively crafted comment.

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Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
3 years ago
Reply to  Norman

Cheers

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  Norman

Yeah, plainly somebody who just got A* in their English A level.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago
Reply to  Jaguarpig

Do you mean OFF?

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Jaguarpig

Out of order.

You wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for Toby.

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TJN
TJN
3 years ago
Reply to  Jaguarpig

Which is supposed to mean what?

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Norman
Norman
3 years ago

Thank you , Toby, for the link to Salon. It is good to see a total lack of logic exposed to full public view, and all because of spin sessions, whatever they are.

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OnceIWasARemainer
OnceIWasARemainer
3 years ago

“However, it becomes an issue in this case because you need lots of young people (and the population in general) to be vaccinated in order to cross the magic threshold for herd immunity and purely relying on a sense of community or selflessness may not be sufficient…”
It already has been sufficient, so why keep pushing for tyranny?

For the full details, I don’t actually oppose vaccine bribes, Sweden seem fine with it and a mere £17 in Krona works wonders on the hesitant (if not the refusers), but threats and negative coercion must be opposed be any and every means.

Th article points a good picture of the danger the country is sleepwalking in to, we must make it plain in advance how far we will go if necessary to sabotage the checkpoint state and two-tier society so that those planning it are put off by the realisation that not only will it not work (it never could) but that also we’ll make sure they can’t even maintain the illusion of it working.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  OnceIWasARemainer

“For the full details, I don’t actually oppose vaccine bribes” So you’re OK with political and health leaders bribing the gullible to take a vaccine they don’t need, that said leaders know full well will not benefit anyone else either, for political reasons?

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OnceIWasARemainer
OnceIWasARemainer
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I tend to go for the view of not holding views on what medicines others should or shouldn’t take, on the understanding it isn’t my business to pry in to anyone else’s medical status just the way it isn’y anyone’s business to dictate mine. For many the vaccine might be pointless, undoubtedly for some it can be helpful, and I’d sooner see a small fortune of tax money wasted on bribes for people who perhaps don’t need a vaccine than see a large fortune wasted on tyrannical measures and force. If people want the vaccine as a comfort blanket let them have it, if someone wants to get a little positive bribe for getting jab, let them. As far as protecting choice and privacy goes the important thing is fighting back against coercive policies.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
3 years ago

..

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

‘coincidence’

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago

Salon are communists, completely opposed to all freedom and are currently blaming government policy on the victims of government policy.

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knee chee
knee chee
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

Reminds me of being 10 years old under the care of one of our more intolerant teachers who would hold us to impossible standards of “order” and punish the whole class when one individual let the side down.
Most of us knew it wasn’t that one kid it was the bitter old cow standing at the front of the class exercising her inner tyrant but our collective frustrations were directed at the one kid.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

That Salon piece, what an entitled plonker. Thing is, that sort have plenty to say about everything that stops them doing exactly what they want.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago

Those Frogs really don’t like that vax apartheid (and good for them!) The Marseillaise seems an appropriate song for the situation:

https://twitter.com/Elanders_Voice/status/1426119778897432578

Aux armes, citoyens
Formez vos bataillons
Marchons, marchons!
Qu’un sang impur
Abreuve nos sillons!

To arms, citizens!
Form your battalions
Let’s march, let’s march
That their impure blood
Should water our fields.

Let’s hope the French get that 1789 spirit again. Macron is a pretty good replacement for Louis XVI.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago

I haven’t read the Salon piece yet but I can confirm that the non-vaccinated are not robbing anybody of any freedoms and to suggest such displays a sub – normal level of intelligence.

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I’m not going to read it as it won’t help my mental state but I can confirm that as an unvaccinated person, I have not deprived anyone of their freedoms. In fact I would urge them to avail themselves of all freedoms, at any opportunity. Freedom to show their face, go in a pub, get their hair cut, go on holiday, all that shizzle.

The people depriving people of freedoms are politicians, who are largely vaccinated (or masquerading as such). THEY are the ones you should turn on, YOU ABJECT CONTEMPTUOUS FOOLS.

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TJN
TJN
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

It’s actually worth reading: emotive, fact-free, thought-free, hyperbolic garbage.

We’re winning this war.

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Will
Will
3 years ago
Reply to  TJN

We are!!!

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Salon, let us recall, is communist and, as such, must blame the victims.

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Will
Will
3 years ago

Another factor, in all of this coercion, is the potential for catastrophic family breakdown, if parents have been pressurising their young adult children to be jabbed, and it all goes wrong…

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SimCS
SimCS
3 years ago

There is a huge and very important difference between the SARS and smallpox viruses regards eradication, the Sars virus has an animal reservoir so we cannot eradicate it, whereas the smallpox virus does not, meaning we could control the human-only spread and so eradicate it.

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago
Reply to  SimCS

It’s one of those truly amazing developments during this ‘pandemic’ that this Epidemiology 101 Basic Fact was and continues to be ignored.

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Hester
Hester
3 years ago
  1. The intention is the passport, not immunity. Governments need the passport in order to change the banking and monetary system to fully digital. This will mean you will carry your passport as your bank account and credit card, it will be loaded with digital currency that can be used at the “stores”, however it can and will be used to control behaviour, in other words a form of slavery. They want to lock down again, they don’t want you to travel more than 3 miles from your home, then your ability to use your money will stop at the 3 mile point. They need to take more money from you in taxes, they will just take it from your digital account. Why is it that large companies such as the Supermarkets were allowed to continue trading wheras the individual owned shops selling similar things were enforceably closed? Because the Banks and the Governments only want to deal with the larger corporations where they can integrate their systems. Meanwhile the small businesses go to the walls and the private equity groups pick them up cheap. The vaccine passport is your individual marker, your tracker with its built in virtual electric shock treatment, it will allow the Governments and the central bankers to control you like the dogs they think you are.
  2. The Unvaccinated- just as other regimes through history have done to those they perceive as a threat, and the anti passporters are a threat, Governments need to segregate them from society, get society to turn on them, they do this by de humanising them, look at the language used by governments for the non vaccinated, look at the language and the hatred being churned up by the complicit media and scientists. by dehumanising a segment of society it allows unacceptable things to be done to them, because ordinary people have been convinced by ill intentioned politicians that these people are a threat. Think about it. The Vaccine does not stop those who have it from getting the disease, or passing it on. Just the same as an unvaccinated person. Young people and Children do not get the disease, but the Government is working like stink to get the product into them, even at the expense of that childs life. Why?, Because the aim is the passport, the tracker, the control.

Vaccinated or not we are being led by a coteri of the elite including all those Bankers who bought us the 2008 crash, who never went to jail into commiting acts of savagery, whilst building our own manacles of slavery so they can control us and make lots and lots of money. Don’t fall for it.

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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
3 years ago
Reply to  Hester

Spot on. And they are doing it on the pretext of saving granny at the expense of the young.
I do wonder how many of them in the know have had or will have the “vaccine”.
Hopefully they will all rot in Hell.

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RTSC
RTSC
3 years ago

I don’t recall a single Human Rights Lawyer challenging the Government over its coercive policies …. and certainly not the Empty Suit that is called Leader of HM Opposition.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago

It’s easy to get bogged down in the detail of the snake oil.

But the issues are quite simple :

  • succumbing to it flies in the face of the basic scientific principles of safety testing, since there has been no coherent program
  • accepting it, by definition, contradicts the foundational principle of informed consent, since there can be no such thing without transparent information derived from adequate testing.

Everything else just follows.

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IanC
IanC
3 years ago

“Threatening the unvaccinated with social penalties flies in the face of informed consent”
Now there’s a phrase this comment brings to mind…what was it now? Oh yes that’s it.
NO SHIT SHERLOCK!

FFS. This is light years beyond that!

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Alkanet
Alkanet
3 years ago

Does anyone else have an urge to slap that simpering unicorn shirted girl? I’m now finding that poster as offensive as the look him in the eyes one.

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago

“It’s OK to blame the unvaccinated – they are robbing the rest of us of our freedoms.”

Let’s not blame the gangsters for smashing up the shop: it’s all the fault of the guy next door for refusing to pay his protection money.

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Graff Frankenheim
Graff Frankenheim
3 years ago

For a tightly argued and irrefutable article that demolishes the vaccine-crusaders who are demonizing the unvaxxed, see this: https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-no-this-is-not-an-epidemic-of-the-unvaccinated-its-a-pandemic-of-censored-early-treatment. The vaccine-crusaders also conveniently forget that in 5-10 years time it will be the unvaxxed who will be footing the bill for the medium-to-long term side-effects of the vaccinated, a large proportion of whom will be incapacitated by their afflictions resulting from the mass medical experiment that they so joyously participated in and are now so self-righteous about.

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kate
kate
3 years ago

This is a criminal conspiracy employing coercion, silencing of debate, threatening good doctors with retribution for advocating early treatment, and suppression of medical truth.

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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
3 years ago

The line in the ad should be “Don’t miss out on your COVID jabs (x2)” it should be (x♾)

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bagpusskitty
bagpusskitty
3 years ago

This is happening everywhere in the world at the moment in countries who have barely seen a case, but i suppose its just government stupidity and incompetence, its strange though the ruthless lockstep efficiency of worldwide governments to force this on their populations, it almost makes me think more of a coordinated plan as the most logical explanation maybe?

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brachiopod
brachiopod
3 years ago

Smallpox is different. There are no animal reservoirs of the virus. Unlike SARS-CoV-2 which can infect cats, dogs, and other mammals and re-infect those in contact with them later.

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