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Hamburg Businesses to Be Given ‘Choice’ to Bar Unvaccinated Residents

by Michael Curzon
26 August 2021 4:20 PM

Hamburg has become the first German city to tell a range of venues, including restaurants, clubs and, according to some reports, religious institutions, that they are permitted to bar unvaccinated residents. Mandates will also apply to workers within these organisations. Those that decide not to introduce vaccine passes will be forced to continue enforcing other restrictive policies. The Local has the story.

German states on Monday moved to a uniform Covid health pass system which allows entry to many public spaces, such as indoor dining, only to people who’ve been vaccinated, have recovered from Covid or have been tested against Covid. It’s known as the ‘3G model’ in Germany.

But on Tuesday, Hamburg announced it will introduce a ‘2G option model’ for event organisers and business owners – effectively banning unvaccinated people.

It means venue and event bosses will be allowed to offer their services and allow entry only to people who are fully vaccinated or have recovered from Covid within the last six months. Those who are eligible for vaccination but haven’t got it will not be allowed to enter. 

Businesses have to let the city know if they plan to use the 2G entry system. 

The obligation to provide proof also applies to employees working on the premises in question, said the Senate. 

Under 2G, businesses will not need the same hygiene regulations. It will allow bosses, for instance, to admit more guests or offer a free choice of seating without mandatory spacing requirements. However, masks will remain compulsory in all indoor settings.

The 2G option will be launched on Saturday. Organisers can also opt for the 3G model – but if they do, they will have to follow previous Covid restrictions, such as caps on the amount of people who can attend. 

The 2G or 3G option is aimed at theatres, cinemas, trade fair operators, restaurants, hotels, swimming pools and fitness studios, among other businesses.

Organisers of sporting events with visitors, public festivals or educational courses should also be able to exclude unvaccinated people if they want to, said the Hamburg Senate.

The Senate said operators will face heavy fines if they do not check for proof of vaccination or recovery (or a negative test if it’s a 3G event).

Worth reading in full.

Tags: GermanyHamburgHospitalityVaccineVaccine Passports

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soundofreason
soundofreason
10 months ago

This week it emerged that workers at the Department for Work and Pensions had left customers on hold for the equivalent of 753 years, according to the National Audit Office (NAO).

Customers?!

FFS!

If they don’t buck their ideas up I’ll use another department for my State Pension!

Last edited 10 months ago by soundofreason
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DHJ
DHJ
10 months ago
Reply to  soundofreason

Yes, HMRC use “customers” also as if you have a choice.

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Purpleone
Purpleone
10 months ago
Reply to  DHJ

That comes from some very expensive management consulting …

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
10 months ago
Reply to  soundofreason

As an ex-employee I can confirm that DWP policy, and it certainly was and is policy is to refer to anybody claiming benefits as a “customer.” I refused. I never ever referred to a claimant as a “customer,” they were ALWAYS claimants.

My logic, repeated frequently was…

“Well they are not going to take their business elsewhere.”

This is the sort of garbage rhetoric that is embedded in the Civil Service and for the vast majority of staff they see no other logic. The majority are woke and extremely lazy.

Last edited 10 months ago by huxleypiggles
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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
10 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Huxley you are a very unusual individual. In a good way. Much respect.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
10 months ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

Many thanks MAk. Very kind of you.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Yeah that’s like “thanks for your patience” – as if I had an option!

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Purpleone
Purpleone
10 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

“Well they are not going to take their business elsewhere.”

we wish they did!

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
10 months ago
Reply to  Purpleone

😀 😀 😀

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Spiritof_GFawkes
Spiritof_GFawkes
10 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I was on hold on the phone to HMRC today with their interminable musical loop being regularly interrupted by messages telling me that me that my call was important to them. Clearly it wasn’t at all important or they would have answered me sooner,…!

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pjar
pjar
10 months ago
Reply to  soundofreason

I was amused rather, after a blue light episode, to be asked if I would recommend the hospital to family and friends for emergency care?

As it happens the care I received was excellent and I’m still here as a result, but I did ask them where else I might have gone under the circumstances… no response, so far!

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Norfolk-Sceptic
Norfolk-Sceptic
10 months ago
Reply to  pjar

For emergency care?

I would have expected that there wouldn’t be the time to ponder.

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DHJ
DHJ
10 months ago

The problem isn’t where they work, it’s that there’s nothing that requires them to work or that can be easily done to replace underperformers. Those that want to do minimal work can do so.

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pjar
pjar
10 months ago
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It’s also that they’re protected from consequences by the system.

A few years ago I had to call DVLA for something. As it happened I had time on my hands, so was able to hold… for nearly an hour. Long story short; I complained to my MP and, when the answer came it was to say that all calls to DVLA are answered within 10 seconds and therefore there was nothing that needed attention, everything is hunky dory… so, the moment your call is ‘answered’ and you go into the queue is all they measure. I imagine this kind of jiggery pokery is rampant through every facet of the civil service?

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago

Where’s the hard evidence that working from home is related to productivity?

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soundofreason
soundofreason
10 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Motivated people will work wherever they need to or can. Well supervised people will work wherever they have to.

This article is about the DWP staff who are apparently neither motivated nor well supervised and will leave customers on hold for unreasonable amounts of time.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  soundofreason

I know what it’s about, what I can’t see in the excerpts is any reference to hard evidence that current poor productivity is related to working from home.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
10 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

tof, if you have never worked in the Civil Service you will never understand that it really is another planet.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I can imagine. I know a couple, one county council and one Whitehall, who work hard and are intrinsically motivated, but probably they are the exception. One is a socialist and has devoted his life to the public sector, the other is decidedly not a socialist and is actively working on starting his own business or moving into the private sector – not a surprise but a shame as he’s exceptionally bright.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
10 months ago
Reply to  soundofreason

Elcom (Electoral Commission) are still I believe “working” from home and boy can they give people the run around on the ‘phone. An absolute shower.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

PS I’ve just logged off work (at home, 5 days a week) – not done tons of hours today, just my standard 7.5ish, spread out a bit so I can fit other things in that make me happy and a better worker when I am working. Whenever I am on calls and there are people in the office there’s a cacophony of noise from chatting – how anyone can work in that environment is beyond me!

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
10 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

When I visit the office every so often I am a lot less efficient. My work requires focused concentration for long periods of time, and my excellent boss understands this. When I am in the office I often arrive late in the morning so I can then stay late and get some work done after everyone has gone home and I can be certain I am not going to be interrupted.

Working from home is what everyone used to do, let’s face it.

But yes, an ill-motivated and ill-managed individual will find a way to avoid work wherever they are. The worst offenders in my experience are the “managers”. Where the Civil Service is concerned, I imagine this effect is multiplied many times – other people spending other people’s money on what other people tell them are other people’s problems, so no-one cares about quality service or product and they don’t care how much it costs.

This is why state must be as small as possible. Where’s Maggie when you need her?

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

100% agree

I look back on my early days of commuting into London and working in the office with fondness, and perhaps for some of our younger staff who choose to do that it’s the same now (we have a lovely office available for people who prefer it, as many or as few days as they choose), but at my advanced age I find my lovely home in a more rural setting (or wherever I am with my laptop) much improve my quality of life. Horses for courses. If your staff are valuable to you, look after them as long as they deliver the work.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
10 months ago
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We did internal studies – WFH was a mess. Office productivity measured in outputs, alignment, and meeting KPIs was achieved by being in the office. GDAD (geo agile projects) also suffered from failure – about 60% failed in some way (failure needs clear defining).

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
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Interesting. Overall it has made little difference to us – some have been more productive, others less. What aspects of WFH do you think made the difference?

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Spiritof_GFawkes
Spiritof_GFawkes
10 months ago
Reply to  FerdIII

During the earlier lockdowns my whole department (bar one) worked from home. We did all the usual stuff to the usual schedule, occasionally popping in to the office for the odd day when necessary and delivering paperwork to each others homes as necessary. I’m sure some of my staff didn’t work exactly office hours, though I did (plus some as I didn’t have to commute), but we all achieved the same output as normal and management accounts were published on time.
I guess, as a small team, we after motivated to do what we always did. I suspect that the behemoth that is the Civil ‘Service’ doesn’t have the same motivation…

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soundofreason
soundofreason
10 months ago

That chart… ‘Annual change in productivity growth‘.

Change in growth? Rate of a rate? Really?

So in Q1 2021 there was a -10% change in growth of productivity compared with a year before – or 90% of the growth in productivity from the year before? No mention of a decline in productivity at all?

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DHJ
DHJ
10 months ago

“Not a word has been spoken about what’s in the interest of the child. The reality is if you’re holding down a job, it’s very difficult to spend adequate time with the child”

Best to get another government department or an expensive stranger to look after your children. Longer term, it’s easier to get them wearing masks and be vaccinated without the burden of parental consent.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
10 months ago

What we have to be aware of is that this collapse in civil service productivity, productivity which I would argue is largely immeasurable, is deliberate. All our public services are being collapsed:

The police pick and choose who to arrest and similarly arbitrarily pick and choose what they might deem arrestable offences depending on lots of factors – skin colour, religion, height, weight, sex or lack thereof, length of time to end of shift.

Most of the above can be applied to the NHS although here the game is to make lots of noises while doing F A except creating waiting lists.

ELCOM – absolutely brilliant at knowing nothing and doing less while sending you round in circles and all while we interrupt their watching of ‘Flog It’ or some such crap.

We are deliberately being led and manipulated in to believing we are a Third World shit hole and within a couple of years we will be.

The tory Party has undergone a controlled demolition orchestrated from within. The same demolition processes are being applied to all the mechanisms of state. Kneel is already overturning Parliamentary traditions eg rearranging the David Amess Bills Day and other procedures.

The country is being dismantled from within. Our history is being rewritten such that the glories of Empire are now the greatest sins the world has ever seen. There will be no let up. Why do we think the Khant was installed in Londonistan on the back of 1.2 million votes? He has been placed there to do precisely what he is doing – destroy the greatest capital city in the world.

So the crap of working from home is just one small element in the whole and that is the demolition of the United Kingdom.

Everything is linked.

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DHJ
DHJ
10 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

“We are deliberately being led and manipulated in to believing we are a Third World shit hole and within a couple of years we will be.”

Perhaps that’s why there’s been a trend over recent years of eateries with a run-down look so that people get used to it before it stops being a choice.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
10 months ago
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Yes more than likely.

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pjar
pjar
10 months ago

E-mail to all staff: “A failure to return to work on Mondays or Fridays will be construed as indication of your wish to terminate your employment…”

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