A panel of experts has told MPs that there is no way of stopping Covid from spreading through the entire population because the vaccines don’t prevent infection and transmission, especially given the Delta variant, adding that we should stop worrying about community testing. “What matters is the burden of patient hospitalisation and critical care,” says a Consultant Paediatrician at Imperial College Healthcare NHS Trust. “And actually there hasn’t been as much with this Delta variant.” The Telegraph has more.
Scientists said it was time to accept that there was no way of stopping the virus spreading through the entire population, and monitoring people with mild symptoms was no longer helpful.
Professor Andrew Pollard, who led the Oxford vaccine team, said it was clear that the Delta variant could infect people who had been vaccinated, which made herd immunity impossible to reach even with high vaccine uptake. …
Speaking to the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Covid, Sir Andrew said: “Anyone who is still unvaccinated will, at some point, meet the virus.
“We don’t have anything that will stop transmission, so I think we are in a situation where herd immunity is not a possibility and I suspect the virus will throw up a new variant that is even better at infecting vaccinated individuals.”
Until recently, it was hoped that increasing the number of Britons jabbed would create a ring of protection around the population. As late as last week, the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation said one of the reasons it had advised that 16 and 17 year-olds should be vaccinated was because it may help prevent a winter Covid wave.
However, analysis by Public Health England has shown that when vaccinated people catch the virus they have a similar viral load to unvaccinated individuals and may be as infectious.
Paul Hunter, Professor in Medicine at the University of East Anglia and an expert in infectious diseases, told the Committee: “The concept of herd immunity is unachievable because we know the infection will spread in unvaccinated populations and the latest data is suggesting that two doses is probably only 50% protective against infection.”
Professor Hunter, who advises the World Health Organisation on Covid, also said it was time to change the way the data was collected and recorded as the virus became endemic.
“We need to start moving away from just reporting infections, or just reporting positive cases admitted to hospital, to actually start reporting the number of people who are ill because of Covid,” he added. “Otherwise we are going to be frightening ourselves with very high numbers that actually don’t translate into disease burden.”
On Tuesday, Sajid Javid, the Health Secretary, confirmed that third dose booster shots would be given from next month. However, Sir Andrew argued that, if mass testing was not stopped, Britain could be in a situation of continually vaccinating the population.
“I think as we look at the adult population going forward, if we continue to chase community testing and are worried about those results, we’re going to end up in a situation where we’re constantly boosting to try and deal with something which is not manageable,” he said.
“It needs to be moving to clinically driven testing in which people are willing to get tested and treated and managed, rather than lots of community testing. If someone is unwell they should be tested, but for their contacts, if they’re not unwell then it makes sense for them to be in school and being educated.”
Worth reading in full.
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It’s beyond unethical. It’s demonic.
Damn right, Stewart!
Fantastic article… but utterly unconscionable behaviour.
People are avoiding these ‘therapies’ on a large scale, so one can only assume this is only about money.
And if it’s not, let them have a full and frank debate, with all the up to date evidence and REAL informed consent.
So evil
This has reached a new level of twisted now. What I would like to know is whether this type of aggressive, false, and immature marketing stunt has any impact on vaccine uptake in children? Are people still so uninformed that they’ll take Peppa Pig’s word for it if she tells parents their children will benefit?
To any rational mind, surely such events would give pause for thought as to the real motivations behind “vaccine” campaigns?
If these jabs were provably beneficial, the sober evidence would be there, freely available with links to the relevant peer-reviewed studies that demonstrated unequivocally that the benefits outweigh the risks for all age groups. But it isn’t, so they need to bring in Peppa Pig to blag about it and brainwash young minds, and appeal to the “Superhero” aspirations of children so they can experimentally alter their genes.
It breaches laws, medical ethics, and the basic morals common to all humanity!
When they come for our children…. Its a hill I’m prepared to die on.
And the response from the GP practice is…….?
Ultimately Fishy and the rest of his government are responsible for this. They know damn well that a phone call to the appropriate earhole could stop this immediately but they have done nothing. Guilty.
A more aggressive response would be to list all the doctors and nurses working at this Practice along with their mugshots. Let’s see the cowardly response to that.
Name and shame.
huxley, re “…list all the doctors and nurses working at this Practice along with their mugshots…”
The question is – how are these doctors and nurses obtaining informed consent for administering this vaccine product?
What information are they giving to parents to justify their children being subjected to this medical intervention?
See my previous comments which indicate children don’t need this medical interference.
What on earth is going on in the medical ‘profession’ that these people are being recruited to foist upon the population unnecessary medical interventions?
This is a scandal of ginormous proportions which is coming to a head now with the Covid and flu vaccination scams.
How do we obtain accountability, particularly against rogue governments which are operating as handmaidens to the pharmaceutical industry, along with the medical profession?
A fine post.
The notorious Anthony Fauci co-authored an article published in January this year, admitting: “As of 2022, after more than 60 years of experience with influenza vaccines, very little improvement in vaccine prevention of infection has been noted. As pointed out decades ago, and still true today, the rates of effectiveness of our best approved influenza vaccines would be inadequate for licensure for most other vaccine-preventable diseases.” (My emphasis.)
So how are these flu vaccine products still being approved today?!?!
It’s mind-boggling how people have been exploited for years with rubbish flu vaccine products – how much has this racket cost taxpayers I wonder? How much damage to health is being done with these repeated medical interventions that are of little or no benefit re flu?
It seems to me this is out and out fraud…
And consider how children are the target for this scam, apparently tying them into the flu vaccine market for life, with vaccine products they don’t need.
This was admitted during a Lords committee meeting in the UK in June 2020, by Peter Openshaw from Imperial College London (also home of the notorious ‘modeller’ Neil Ferguson).
Peter Openshaw was present at the meeting as one of the members of the UK’s Sage scientific advisory group Nervtag, advising on the Covid-19 response. According to a report in the Guardian, Openshaw was advising the Lords committee that “A vaccine against Covid-19 may not work well in older people who are most at risk of becoming seriously ill and dying from the disease…which may mean immunising others around them, such as children.” (My emphasis.)
Openshaw said: “Sometimes it is possible to protect a vulnerable group by targeting another group and this, for example, is being done with influenza. In the past few years the UK has been at the forefront of rolling out the live attenuated vaccine for children.” (My emphasis.)
According to the Guardian, Openshaw said “giving the nasal spray flu vaccine to children who do not often get severe flu protects their grandparents”. (My emphasis.) Openshaw was using this example to justify giving Covid-19 vaccine products to children and health and care workers, to “also help protect older people who have the most contact with them”.
What do you think about this? About children and others such as health and care workers being given flu and covid vaccines to protect the elderly? That is, adults and children who aren’t at serious risk of either flu or ‘Covid’ being pressed to sacrifice their own naturally effective immune response, and being vaccinated, repeatedly, to purportedly protect elderly people – is this ethical?
How do we effectively take this on, challenge unnecessary vaccinations being pressed upon people who do not need this medical interference?
How is informed consent being obtained for this racket?
Further to my comment above, I was so shocked after reading the report in the Guardian I referred to, I raised this matter in August 2020, in a BMJ (aka The British Medical Journal) rapid response, please see:
Is it ethical to vaccinate children to protect the elderly?
Again, what do people think about this?
Is it ethical to vaccinate people who aren’t at serious risk of disease to purportedly protect another group – e.g. vaccinating children to purportedly protect the elderly against flu or covid?
We have to demand accountability for this gross exploitation of people, including children, with unnecessary medical interventions such as vaccines.
Further to my comments please have a look at the email I sent to Peter Openshaw and Arne Akbar in September last year – Is it ethical to vaccinate the young to purportedly protect the old?
We have to address this now – they are brazenly jabbing children to purportedly protect old people – this is unethical!
It is in fact literally criminal.
Jabbing without informed consent is a criminal offence.
Terrific.
See also this article re flu vaccination of children in France – they’re coordinating a campaign to exploit children with these products, this must be challenged now.
Why Vaccinate Healthy 2- to 17-Year-Olds Against Influenza? Medscape, 17 October 2023
Ha! I bet the manufacturers aren’t ‘fazed’ at all! Rather rubbing their hands with glee at children being roped into this racket…
How is this happening, this gross exploitation? How can the medical profession be going along with this? Have they no idea at all of their legal and ethical obligation to obtain informed consent for vaccination?!
The medical profession carrying out this cannot be considered as professional.
Its not just children [NB. MPs are crap – they are the ones letting this go on day-after-day year-after-year and say and do nothing – total corruption at every turn – with honourable exceptions like Bridgen and Chope – and dishonourable ones IMHO like Penny Mordant].
This official misinformation [lies IMHO] specifically about ‘flu and covid injections is from an email sent recently to all 65s and over [see also post in these comments by Elizabeth Hart]:
“More information
Seasonal vaccinations have proven safety records. They give you better protection than any immunity gained from previous infections.
………
Kind regards,
Dr Nikita Kanani MBE
GP and Deputy Lead
NHS Seasonal Vaccination Programmes
NHS England
Have they no shame? GMC referral is indicated as a mater of urgency! The doctors involved should e struck off!
Crazy, evil world.
TPTB and their ‘followers’ are happy to manipulate children, by lying, to get highly questionable substances into their bodies…but children and younger persons must not be subjected to the perils of ‘betting / gambling’ involving well-known characters who may influence them.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/sky-bet-tweet-featuring-manchester-27925824
Gambling with their health and life with ‘health’ products is ok, then?
EVIL
Very very well said this diabolical practice has got to stop and those promoting it held to account.
Unbelievable the medical professionals have failed us – period.
Is there a Cos Play freedom fighter outfit, just for Mark Dolan.