U.S. Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin is expected to recommend that vaccination against Covid should be mandated for all 1.3 million active-duty military troops, with the final decision lying with President Joe Biden. The shift in position is believed to have occurred because of fears over the Delta variant. The New York Times has the story.
Biden announced last week that all federal employees and on-site contractors must be vaccinated against Covid, or be required to submit to regular testing and other measures. The requirement extended to the 766,372 civilians working for the Defense Department, but not active-duty service members.
That could soon change, administration and military officials said on Tuesday. Austin, who recently returned to the United States from a trip to Asia, has asked the military services to report on how and when they would go about putting a mandate in place. Mr Austin has previously said that he would not be comfortable with a mandate until the vaccines are fully approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), but officials and executives across the board are rethinking their position as the Delta variant surges.
The FDA plans to fully approve the Pfizer Covid vaccine, one of the most widely used vaccinations, by early next month, people familiar with the effort have said. The move will lead to more vaccination mandates across the country, but officials say Mr Austin is not expected to wait for final approval before making his recommendation. …
About 64% of active-duty military members are fully vaccinated, above the 60% of Americans over 18 who are fully vaccinated. But for the military, the rate is unacceptably low, raising issues of readiness should cases rise among service members. It is also difficult to deploy troops who have not been vaccinated to countries with stringent local restrictions.
Beyond readiness, a big part of the push for a mandate for the military centers on the belief that service members could set an example for their families and friends in states where vaccine hesitancy has been higher.
“When people see that these guys got the vaccine and nothing happened to them, that could be decisive,” said Dr Ezekiel J Emanuel, a Bioethicist at the University of Pennsylvania who advised Mr Biden during his transition.
“People admire our military,” he said. “They can serve as a positive example.”
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A seriously incapacitated military?
Biden might as well roll out the red carpet for the Chinese.
WTF is going on?
What should be going on? All governments on this planets with close ties to the so-called American left trying to out-idiot each other in order to prove that international cooperation is always superior to anything else regardless of the outcomes while the Chinese make truckloads of money from selling useless consumer goods.
After the botched bird flu and swine flu attempts, the WHO has finally learnt that calling something flu simply doesn’t sound scary enough anymore and that a professionally managed pandemic needs professionally managed PR.
Maybe as undercurrent: An involuntary demonstration that democracy really isn’t a suitable form of organization/ government of anything.
Let’s hope they fight back, literally.
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a wise man once called democracy the least bad option. Trouble is, flawed though it is, other models probably have problems too.
Biden is how you say Quisling in Chinese.
Nicely observed.
Peking Bidden.
Vince Cable too, apparently.
‘A seriously incapacitated military?
Biden might as well roll out the red carpet for the Chinese.
WTF is going on?‘
I think you’ve answered your own question.
China wants to take over the world. China currently has some leverage to influence other countries (and also some quite stark domestic problems, from which it will be necessary to distract their population).
Peking Bidden.
Are fully vaccinated soldiers allowed to partake in combat without face masks despite that’s so risky?
As long as their opponents wear masks.
Also their opponents must have the same percentage of soldiers with myocarditis to ensure it is a fair contest.
As well as masks, they will of course have to “social distance”, and therefore the dangers of hand-to-hand combat will be reduced.
It will, of course, be permissible for one side or the other, or both, to rip off masks, come to close quarters, and sneeze at each other.
General Patton would be proud.
Lucky they didn’t have to social distance in Bravo Two Zero.
General Patton of Peover fame (actually pronounced Peever…)?
staying safe in a combat zone… I wonder if the Taliban ( or whoever they can be bothered taking on) will wear masks?
Biden will mandate targets on those masks, just to help the Chinese
Oh yes, like the 1770’s British troops! No wonder Khaki was later adopted…
No, and they have to hokd somebody’s handy-pandy all the time in case they get scared.
the reality of military life is that you may need to hold a bag for someone while they… fill it (amongst many other ‘horrors’). One hopes their forces are a bit braver than the craven idiots running their country.
Not only will they have to wear masks but they have to socially distance whilst under fire and if up against a black enemy they will have to take the knee before commencing battle. Oh and if one of their fellow comrades is a muslim they will have to stop their patrol until prayers have been completed (like how it was shown in a recruiting ad for the British Army).
And what about combat pilots? But of course, they’re military, and thus guaranteed not to have any adverse reactions.
Just gets more sinister every day. Lots of troops contacting Andrew Torba of Gab about this. Time for a military coup?
Wouldn’t trust the US military, let alone our own, to jump the right way, considering how painfully woke the military and security hierarchies have been engineered to be over the past few decades.
Better to keep pushing at the democratic means for the moment. Civil war isn’t yet the only option left to dissenters, though the woke are pushing as hard as they can via cancellation, censorship, demonisation and criminalisation of dissent for that to be the case.
The senior officers may be painfully woke, however, I doubt that many of the NCOs and other ranks are. The armed forces are run by NCOs and they are more than capable of deposing useless or treasonous officers, of whatever rank.
The loyalty of servicemen can never be taken for granted. I am not casting doubt on that, merely observing that they have a sense of duty and a moral compass, and a point beyond which they will not go. Police officers will always open fire on citizens if ordered to do so, however, it can never be assumed that soldiers will. They have been known to turn their guns on those giving the orders.
Indeed. Trying to use the military against the people is the last roll of the dice for rulers faced with losing their grip.
I do not say the military would necessarily jump the wrong way, merely that there’s no guarantee it won’t.
In the New World Order novel I read over twenty years ago, a substantial number of US troops did revolt. I fear it may not work out so well when the real thing comes…
Definitely – a senile US President is not a good precedent!
It’s unpresidented innit
Here is one of the most frank interviews ever conducted about the reality of some of what has happened in the US military:
Kay Griggs Colonel’s Wife Tell All Interview 1 of 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dbXX9VZmdM
“Fully vaccinated” is now a term that makes my p*ss boil!
If there is always a ‘booster’ in the pipeline is ”fully vaccinated” as impossible as ”zero covid”
Mine too.
Are we emptily vaccinated?
The mind boggles…
Good for China, Russia and the Palestinians….
I think a lot of people are going to be leaving the US military now, just as many are leaving the police.
I suppose that will make it easier for China to complete their takeover of the country.
Covid-19 is Communism in a medical disguise. But I’m sure Biden and co., know this.
The brain is, indeed – missing.
“We’d really like to invade and screw over your country for the oil revenue and related looting’n’shizzle, but can’t on account of your stringent vaccination entry requirements.”
God bless America!
Biden to make final decision. One knock for yes…
Let’s hope they fight back, literally.
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Perhaps they should first check whether the CCP have “vaxxed” their military??
They probably have, but given the Chinese treatment is little better than water, I doubt it’s got any side effects.
It’s allegedly FUBARed the indonesian medics who took it.
I expect long-term all of them are similarly unsafe.
When people see that these guys got the vaccine and nothing happened to them, that could be decisive,” said Dr Ezekiel J Emanuel, a Bioethicist at the University of Pennsylvania who advised Mr Biden during his transition.
“People admire our military,” he said. “They can serve as a positive example.”
Bioethicist my arse – nothing happened to them, really? – he obviously decided to ignore this:
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/06/30/dod-confirms-rare-heart-inflammation-cases-linked-covid-19-vaccines.html
And he has no clue as to what the medium-to-long-term effects might be!
This is just a doubling and trebling down on an insane position.
At this point they could just inject them with saline to flip the script. After all, the ones who submit will have proven their loyalty. They don’t actually care if they have a dodgy non sterilising injection, just that they submit.
Oh, like Abraham and Isaac?
‘Required to submit’
If ever there was a phrase for these times.
The US military regularly take long haul flights so one can only guess the numbers on blood clot related deaths if they go and start manoeuvres.
Maybe they are deemed as useful collateral before being used by Joe Biden ‘I just got my butt wiped’ Admin. the false flag drone attack on a vessel freighter of asphalt, Asphalt Princess near the strait of Hormuz in the Arabian Sea could be seen as “triggering”.
Can someone help me out with this, I am a simple fellow and cannot quite get my head round the logic with this. As I understand it the current gene therapy vaccines only claim at best to reduce the symptoms of Covid disease that can arise from the SARS Cov2 virus, have I got that correct? From what has been happening in the UK it seems that the SARS-Cov2 virus can roam around the upper respiratory tracts of both vaccinated and unvaccinated people pretty much as it wishes, it is just that if you are vaccinated your chances of it giving you severe Covid are reduced?
If we assume that the military are composed of fit active people then their chances of getting severe covid from SARS-Cov2 are much reduced in any case. If I have got that correct what is it that these vaccines are supposed to do for the military?
If my thoughts are correct then to my mind vaccinating the military against covid disease is pointless and a completely futile gesture, much like vaccinating children. Have I missed something? Am I not seeing the full picture?
“If I have got that correct what is it that these vaccines are supposed to do for the military?“
They aren’t supposed to do anything for the military, and any medical effects are irrelevant. The compulsory vaccination of the military has three objectives:
1 Signal to the population that vaccination and vaccination coercion is normal
2 Signal the complete control,of the regime over the military and over individual soldiers (as an enforced political gesture, like taking the knee)
3 Ensure that there are no vaccine resisters in the military who might sympathise with dissenters when they are used to crack down on them (and never mind Posse Comitatus – a suitable change to the Insurrection Act and demonisation of vaccine resisters and other dissenters as terrorist threats will deal with that)
Oh it won’t do that, there will be a significant number “vaccinated” sympathetic to those who are not – especially ones who experience adverse reactions – which won’t happen at all because, you know, it’s the military – and if the cover up springs leaks, the CIA (who pioneered use of the term) can smear it as conspiracy theory
Yes. Vaccinating the military’s healthy and fit isn’t a “futile gesture”
if the object is to demoralize and incapacitate them.
Are US defence chiefs going to allow Biden to carry out the dirty work of the Chinese and bring the US military to its knees? Is this another part of the plan to take control of world affairs? And assume control from a weakened US, that can no longer defend itself.
“When people see that these guys got the vaccine and nothing happened to them, that could be decisive,” said Dr Ezekiel J Emanuel,”
When people see these guys got the vaccine and started having strokes and cardiac arrests it will definitely be decisive and I would stay clear of strong trees if I were you Mr Emanuel.
Yes!
ARM two-three SLEEVE two-three JAB two- three…
The Chinese will be rubbing their hands together with glee at this news.
If the US military are complicit in the roll-out of ‘vaccines’, even against their own forces. They could hardly then be at the forefront of any military-based Nuremburg trails. In effect, the US military will have been compromised and could not act in an unbiased manner, hence unable to perform said trials…
The entities behind all this evil are very, very sly and malicious.
US military “leaders” are selected based on their political loyalties. Don’t expect anything but enthusiastic compliance from them.
Resistance to this, if it occurs, will come from the junior officer and enlisted ranks.
Not much they can do, apart from leave when they get the chance.
But this will further reduce the recruiting pool, quite significantly I suspect.
This serves the dual purpose of achieving higher rates of people getting onto the soon to be coming vaccine register (precursor to universal IDs and centrally controlled digital currencies) AND purging the military of those who don’t support the administration; a loyalty and fealty check.
That way when the military is used, as in Australia, to disarm the private citizenry the military will obey.
You’ll need a certain level of social credit to join the officer’s ranks soon, a sort of feudal army hierarchy like it was in the past.
Yes the new-feudalistic model is the closest to where we are headed unfortunately. There is insufficient resistance. There are places that will resist but it may be futile and suicidal.
The more things progress this way the more I’m waiting for someone to declare himself Christ returned….
Not feudalism, rather serfdom.
“worth reading in full” ??
The New York Slimes? You’re ‘avin a giraffe.
So, finally, we get to it. Many nudges and mucho PsyOps, media marketing, etc. later.
We’re entering the final phase of this sinister plot. God help us all.
There really isn’t much time left, unless many of us here, the apparently less easily brainwashed than the masses, are in fact paranoid, antivax, conspiracy theorists.
I certainly hope we are exactly that and this will all be over once the armies and foetuses are fully vaccinated and getting their regular boosters for the deadly plague, that we’ve somehow managed to survive to date.
we lucky few %age wise, 99.95%
I meant we lucky few dissenters. I’d guess as a percentage of the human species we’d make up around 20% on a good day. The masses have been enthralled by the MSM et al’s massive psyop.
This is another case of over reach, the enemy making all the right mistakes.
And you know what Napoleon had to say about that.
This is clearly sabotage. Ditto for the UK military. This can only WEAKEN the US military, not strengthen it. We all know that. These are not accidents, this is not incompetence. The west is being destroyed, this is part of that process.
It’s not often spoken about now, but likely thousands of veterans were disabled by the multiple vaccines used prior to deployment in gulf war 1. Might explain the need to use coercion today. There were some accidental controls where individuals were jabbed up and then for some reason never deployed, but still suffered, which ruled out exposure to unknown substances on the battlefield. But of course one cannot question the vaccines, ever, and no one really cared that much about a bunch of disabled military. They have probably mostly died out, now, as it’s 30 years later.
Won’t do much for the plan to make “invincible warriors” if they keel over with multiple thromboses after the clot shot.
Not only the military it would seem.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-30-bidens-doj-vaccine-mandates-legal-force-employees.html
https://news.yahoo.com/doj-says-legal-mandate-covid-173600309.html
This is perhaps the better legal explanation of the thinking behind this. Certainly better than the first link I gave!
https://www.natlawreview.com/article/doj-releases-memorandum-supporting-employers-right-to-mandate-vaccines-approved-fda
They’re not vaccine hesitant, they’re “vaccine” realist.
Sounds like Peking Bidden’s people are pretty confident they won’t get one single adverse reaction in the military – or at least nothing they can’t cover up. Official Secrets Act (or whatever they call it)?
Stop complying. Stop moaning. Start fighting. Don’t ever wear masks. “Exempt”. I always insist (politely) on others removing their masks for me (Hard of hearing) – they have to by law. See what’s happening in Australia. It’s coming here soon if we don’t stop it now. Don’t ever stop using problematic stores, services or businesses. Use them more often! Any problems – Complain directly to the manager in person (maskless of course) – then send letters to head office – don’t give in to negativity. FIGHT. BACK. BETTER. All the resources you need: https://www.LCAHub.org/
The only way that this can be done legally and ethically is if the FDA waves a magic wand and creates a time-machine to travel forward to a date when the (already fatally flawed by un-blinding) drug trials are completed and analysed and demonstrated to be efficacious and safe for all proposed recipients. Then they can publish the authorisation, get back in the time-machine, and bring it back.
Unfortunately it looks like they are just going to tear up everything we have painstaking learned over the last decade about drug interventions to ensure that we avoid ‘unforeseen’ consequences.
How sad that it has come to this, it isn’t the science that has failed, we do know how to do it, but rather the $cientists masquerading as proponents of the scientific method.
Joe Biden will go down in history as the worst president in the USA. He is an idiot and will personally be responsible for any serious adverse events or deaths, caused by an experimental biological, to our great military men and women. I detest this man.