An anthropologist by background with no academic training in medicine, virology or immunology, Prof Devi Sridhar has nonetheless become a go-to person for the broadcast media during the pandemic, where she is allowed to pronounce unchallenged on all things to do with Covid, vaccines and lockdowns. This week, expert group HART has taken her to task for her misinformation about the safety of vaccinating children on Good Morning Britain. She told viewers categorically that “zero children have died because of the vaccine side-effects”, a claim at odds with the multiple reports on VAERS of fatal adverse events in children in the U.S.
Today, she told the BBC that vaccines give more robust and longer-lasting protection than from infection.
We’d rather people get immunity through a vaccine, as studies are showing that vaccine immunity is longer-lasting. You will have a more robust immune response from a vaccine than you do from natural infection.
She doesn’t specify which studies are showing this, but it is contradicted by the findings of researchers examining differing immune responses from infection and vaccination. A paper (not yet peer-reviewed) from a team at New York University in April looked in detail at the different types of immune response from vaccines and infection and found marked differences that did not generally reflect well on the vaccines. Here are some excerpts.
While both infection and vaccination induced robust innate and adaptive immune responses, our analysis revealed significant qualitative differences between the two types of immune challenges. In COVID-19 patients, immune responses were characterised by a highly augmented interferon response which was largely absent in vaccine recipients. …
Critically, induction of [interferons] by viral infection can radically reshape antigen presentation, cellular trafficking, and terminal differentiation of lymphocytes. Infection with SARS-CoV-2 potently induced [interferon] responses, but we did not observe evidence of [interferon] induction by the BNT162b2 mRNA [Pfizer] vaccine.
We observed the presence of cytotoxic CD4 T cells in COVID-19 patients that were largely absent in healthy volunteers following immunisation. … [T]hese features are indicative of protective immune responses and resolution of infection.
Other studies have indicated that the vaccines, unlike infection, do not produce mucosal IgA antibodies, which have been shown to play a crucial role in combating infection in the early stages.
Professor Sridhar also told the BBC that the Delta variant “makes Alpha look easy”. Again, this is untrue. According to Public Health England, the secondary attack rate (SAR, the proportion of contacts an infected person infects) of the Delta variant is currently 10.7% (meaning around 90% of contacts do not become infected), and it peaked at 13.5% at the beginning of May. By contrast, the Alpha variant’s SAR in December hit 15.1% and was still around 11% in March, though has declined further since. The idea that the Delta variant is far more infectious than the Alpha variant ever was and “makes it look easy” is thus a complete misunderstanding of the data.
There are so many well qualified scientists who could talk some sense and balance about COVID-19. Why do broadcasters insist on keep inviting back the under-qualified and repeatedly wrong Professor Sridhar?
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Have complaints been raised to OfCom about it?
Until they get mass complaints nothing will be done.
And even then they may not if the intent is propaganda
Alas, I believe OfCom have issued guidance to the broadcasters that they are not allowed to air ‘misinformation.’ Clearly, this will be considered by them to not be misinformation, but anyone pointing out the numbers of the yellow card system, or VAERs in America would be.
I am certain even if OfCom got 67million complaints, they wouldn’t do anything 🙁
They regularly get hundreds of complaints and sometimes thousands. They never do anything about it because OfCom are part of the problem. In the same way petitioning the Government never works because the Committees are full of MPs responsible for the decisions we are petitioning against
They invite her back because she tells them what they want to hear
This is a war about a lot more than COVID
She also ticks a couple of diversity boxes. Much more important than being a subject matter expert.
I think that she’s also chosen because she is youngish and attractive, more likely to appeal to the masses than the other, less-than-attractive “experts” TPTB roll out for us plebs. It’s a deliberate psychological manipulation, and I’m guessing she’s been groomed for this, given her associations. She smiles while she lies through her teeth. A bit like Fiona Bruce on the BBC news. But whenever I look at Devi, I always think she just looks dead behind the eyes. Like she’s programmed, or sold her soul to the devil.
I’ve too noticed her dead, soulless eyes. Nearly as frightening as what she professes
Yes she’s prettier than Ferguson but just as wrong
Or being correct.
The article explains why she is incorrect. In fact the article offers evidence that this person might actually be lying. Have you actually read the article?
Yes Micheal I have read the article (see above). I appear to have been misunderstood. As I said I am agreeing with realarthurdent. In other words TV are more interested in box ticking than getting people to give the correct advice. Sorry for any confusion.
Why have I got -3? Very strange as I am agreeing with realarthurdent i.e. ticking diversity boxes is much more important than getting someone who is giving correct advice. Which clearly she isn’t (or have I missed something?).
Basically, then, an Asian female version of Neil Ferguson who is continuously presented as a scientist when he’s a scientist in the same way that Tyson Fury is a Pomeranian puppy.
She’s an American Asian female version who’s pitched up at a Scottish university to pontificate about “Public Health”. That’s fine, as long as she sticks it to the kilted masses and their Ginger Whinger leader, and leaves those of us South of the Border alone. She’s also got a down on the Demon Drink, so she’s probably got her work cut out avoiding a Glasgow Kiss from a Buckie fan.
She is not popular with the ‘kilted masses’. She and Chelsea Clinton have worked together promoting Gates and she has been the subject of much criticism here in Scotland.
No different to them having behavioural psychologist Michie on and allowing to talk about things she has no qualifications in such as masks and infectious disease.
The media doesnt want to provide context – it makes the story less interesting.
Right the way through this people with no training in the field have been passing off “im a scientist” as an excuse to push their view and never ever get called out on it.
Or “an expert”.
Definitely, but a suffix is needed for”Expert”. These usually begin with a consonant such as W, F or B, and often end in “er”.
Expert: Noun – Ex (A has been) Spurt (A drip under pressure).
One who has opinions on a subject that they know fuck all about.
e.g. Prof Devi Sridhar, “Prof Susan Michie,”
Expert – an ‘Ex’ is a has been and a ‘spert’ is a drip under pressure
What is it they say about being able to judge a person by the company they keep?
It has never hitherto been the case vaccine immunity was as good as natural immunity – she no evidence base.
It’s totally obvious and inescapable that natural immunity is always going to be at least as good? So she is either a total idiot, a fraud, a liar, or all of the above.
All-of the above, and. power-mad totalitarian goblin on top of it.
Yes, it’s comparing demonstrable immunity versus hoped-for immunity.
Now, if they were making the claim that it’s riskier to take the gamble on trusting your untrained immune system the first time you get it, that’s one thing.
But claiming that maybe-immunity is better than demonstrable-immunity the next time you get a dose, that’s just farcical on the face of it.
Nobody who’s already had it and got over it (and most of us will have by now) should be gambling the other way, on experimental vaccines designed last year and inflicted now in order to train against multiple variants in the future.
Experimental gene therapies. Please do not confuse these with vaccines. No one knows what the long term effects of this snake oil will be. When the money comes from eugenicists like Gates, it probably ain’t gonna end well.
While YouTube, FB and Twitter are busy acting as censors of scientific information, people like her, the WHO, Professor Lockdown and the rest can spew falsehoods, unverified by peer-reviewed science. We will one day be past Covid, but we may never be able to regain our pursuit of truth without censors.
The old saying a falsehood can get around the world while the truth is still getting out of bed holds true. One day facts will be important again. Not sure when, but one day.
We’re in a war for the future direction of civilisation
And we’re losing
It’s worse than that, it’s actually genocide.
Not true these lunatics and empty spiritual vessels will never ‘win’ against Natural Law and the human spirit , buck up mate…!
Well, I am not giving up, just recognising that most people currently don’t share our views. These things go in cycles, just not sure how long this one will last and how bad it will get.
Just wait till people start dying and then the realisation will hit.
“We will one day be past Covid, but we may never be able to regain our pursuit of truth without censors.”
We lost our pursuit of truth in the late C20th when dissidents were smeared as “hate speakers” and excluded from public discourse.
It’s just that most people didn’t care about those people and those opinions being excluded, just as most people don’t care now about covid dissidents and “antivaxxers” being excluded. The only people who think this is something new are those who didn’t care about the former censorship but do care about the current censorship.
At least she has a very pleasant looking home to be locked up in. Funny that.
Ah yes, a bit like Michie then
Indeed. Pretty much all of the Zero Covid/lockdown zealots have incomes and lifestyles that are essentially insulated from the consequences of their putative ‘recommendations’.
As you say, fancy that….
Edinburgh University, like many other academic institutions in the UK, has been bought by Gates and she obviously has her cut.
I am speechless by this display of either deliberate outright lying or massive incompetence.
Whilst I am firmly in the conspiracy rather than the cockup or cockupspiracy camp, I have to admit that her comments here and Merkel’s recent display of not knowing what the ct number means, defines and results in, with the MSM subsequently whitewashing it, the stupidity and cockup theories have gained more credence again hereby.
https://www.rubikon.news/artikel/gefahrliche-ahnungslosigkeit
Someone who is collaborating in a conspiracy will always cock-up along the way. But it seems the lie is so vast and entrenched that these cracks are easily taped over by MSM distraction/censorship.
For the present. Not for ever. Not even for long, because there .are still people about who know that two and two make four, and one day the lies will crumble and collapse.
Oh! Look over there is that a UFO??
Fauci’s lies are being exposed and we can only hope that the cracks will widen.
It’s way past time that criminal prosecutions of these bare-faced liars or gross incompetents began. And that’s just the news readers/telly presenters, let alone these so-called Professors of Bolloxology or whatever…
Nurembourg 2 awaits this murderous monster. She will join the many other conspirators in these multiple crimes against humanity.
Say, it’s currently still 80/20 between either knighthood or Nuremberg 2, for her and all the others.
First the knighthood, then the rope.
NO! To incite violence is to stoop to the authoritarians’ level.
Flagged.
To be fair, he might be calling for a fair trial on a charge commensurate with international standards of justice, and just basing his prediction on his understanding of the available evidence.
Dream on.
She should, but she won’t.
They are all acting on the orders of the same people who would both try them, and then hang beside them. How likely does that sound?
Devil Shridar – write to the university which employs this evil creature.
We have already but received no reply.
The poster girl for some of the worst fallacies of “technocracy” and “meritocracy”. The “crats” in practice are often not the ones with the greatest technical expertise or merit, but the ones with the best personal pr, the best skills at ingratiating themselves to power, the best personal and family contacts, or just good fortune at fitting what fashion or elite dogma says are desirable personal qualities to be promoted – gender, race, politics etc.
Well put and an important point. Sridhar herself is more media-friendly than the average real boffin with a background in epidemiology or virology, and has also strained every sinew to suck up to the appalling Sturgeon. She knows which side her bread is buttered on.
They are both being ‘played’ by Gates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InUU_lN0fvE
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/2148444/nicola-sturgeon-bill-gates-microsoft-edinburgh-meeting/
Did you know there is a sane parallel universe where the likes of Sridhar and Michie are still allowed to spout their gibberish nonsense, but only from the confines of their padded cells.
It’s a much happier universe as well.
Broadcasters go to Devi because she feeds the fear agenda!
She is either woefully thick and unknowledgeable or evil .. either way hell awaits her and her ilk.
Sorry forgot to post this link
https://vernoncoleman.org/videos/how-many-children-will-die-because-woman
I was thinking more about Devi. She has constantly compared covid to measles and the vaccines to the measles vaccine. Covid is caused by a coronavirus, it is not measles, the vaccines won’t give life long immunity. As Francis Balloux has said recently we will catch covid many times in our lives, like other coronavirus and it will be like the colds they cause in years to come. Devi wants to continue with her measles conflation and as she has been zero covid she wants to continue with the belief this virus can be eradicated. I would like to ask her how she feels about Scotland’s progress to eradication.
Sridhar has *clearly* been installed as a UI for the covid cult in the UK. Woman, “minority”…all useful for deflecting challenges as “racist misogynistic attacks”. She’s dangerous and must be relentlessly challenged.
Whose payroll is she on, and how much is she earning from peddling them?
I’m sure she has received quite substantial funding from an organisation called the ‘Gates Foundation’
Words fail me
https://vernoncoleman.org/videos/how-many-children-will-die-because-woman
The people promoting these experimental injections are on a one way trip to hell .. those pushing for children to have them will have reserved a special place ..
Ever considered that the BTL aimless ranting at Sridhar, of which there is much here, is a useful diversion as far as the Covid pushers are concerned?
The real problem is the decay of journalism.
The real problem is that every institution is rotten with crony-communists, from top to bottom.
Look at their funders. Follow the money.
It’s certainly true that the journalists allowing people like her to get away with this are as guilty or more guilty than she is
After all she is there to push her views whereas the journalists are supposed to question things
Please join me by sending an email to her university to complain (as someone else here suggested). If enough people complain it will have an impact. Early on in the first lockdown Dr Simon Clarke a microbiologist from Reading University did a Radio show with Nicky Campbell. The way he spoke to callers who dared to question his authority was really shocking. He was so rude, condescending and even said to one man he was talking out a hole in his head. I called the BBC there and then to complain and he disappeared from the BBC for a very very long time, he used to have a regular slot with Simon McCoy.
So sometimes complaining does work, this woman needs to feel the consequence of her words…
She is a Professor of Global Health at the Usher Institute Edinburgh University
The Director of the Institute is Professor Aziz Sheikh aziz.sheikh@ed.ac.uk
The head of her Faculty of Global Health is Professor Harish Nair harish.nair@ed.ac.uk
& Professor Igor Rudan
igor.rudan@ed.ac.uk
Just to add the university must be condoning the utter garbage she spouts as on her bio page
https://www.ed.ac.uk/profile/devi-sridhar
It says…
Professor Sridhar is receiving a large number of requests from the media at the moment. If you are a journalist, please contact press.office@ed.ac.uk. University of Edinburgh students can still contact Professor Sridhar directly using details in the Outlook directory.
Is it just me or does the word ‘collaborating’ seem very appropriate.
Hopefully the same fate awaits them as is usually reserved for collaborators.
https://www.ed.ac.uk/usher/about-us/who-collaborating-centre
Clearly a child protection issue
If she has children of her own a referral should be made to social services
It would be for a multi disciplinary team to decide if the children should be placed on the ‘At risk’ register
Chris Whitty does not believe the vaccines are working or he wouldn’t be talking about not going back to normal till at least next spring. Here is a public health professor from Imperial mad keen on vaccines admitting he doesn’t really know whether they are working
https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1605/rr
but Devi Shridhar knows.
If by “working” you mean the Absolute Risk Reduction for the vaccines is high, ie worthwhile, then it isn’t.
Big Pharma’s own data shows between 1-1.5% !!!!!
Dr Richard Fleming on The Highwire lays it all out.
They have nothing to measure: the decline in infections could easily be seasonal. They don’t know whether immunological data is meaningful, and they don’t know how long it lasts if it is.
Just looked up her background on Wikipedia
Rhodes Scholar
Oxford Uni “Global Economic Governance Programme”
Chatham House
World Economic Forum
Chelsea Clinton
Contributor Guardian, CNN, BBC
Says all you need to know.
Also note that she is not an actual MD or OD, and that she finished her first degree at a younger than normal age, something I feel is indicative of a socially maladapted personality.
Other than the fact she is not an actual medical doctor, her career trajectory is disturbingly similar to the equally sociopathic Leana Wen:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leana_Wen
What’s the ‘normal age’ then?
That is a list that is enough to make any sane person shudder.
And she’s really not that bright as she can’t understand basic reasoning and what analogies are and aren’t. (See my post elsewhere in the comments section).
Off topic, I wrote an email to the BPS regarding the unethical use of fear by the behavioural ‘scientists’ over the past 16 months, below is there response…
The Ethics Committee of the BPS has reviewed and considered the above issue raised with the society.
On 5 February we issued a statement in response to emails detailing similar concerns. This response continues to be the BPS position.
Covid-19 is an extremely serious public health issue. The response to the pandemic is clearly a matter of social as well as individual concern. Indirect behavioural interventions are commonly employed in public health campaigns in order to safeguard the population. Given the scale of the mortality and morbidity caused by the pandemic the behavioural interventions employed by the UK Government have been proportionate and necessary.
The Ethics Committee believed that the contributions of psychologists in responding to the pandemic was entirely consistent with the BPS Code of Ethics and Conduct, demonstrating social responsibility and the competent and responsible employment of psychological expertise.
The Committee also emphasised how psychologists’ shared values of respect, competence, responsibility and integrity will be vital in supporting the long-term recovery from the pandemic at both the individual and societal levels.
Kind regards,
BPS Ethics Response Team
Another group to add to the list for Nuremberg 2.
I complained about the Look Them in the Eyes campaign to the Advertising Standards Authority and took it through two levels of appeal. No joy for me either
‘The Ethics Committee believed that the contributions of psychologists in responding to the pandemic was entirely consistent with the BPS Code of Ethics and Conduct’
Read that and then read it again
Clever use of words
Note the use of the word ‘believed’ and ‘was’
The use of these words suggests at some point in the past the committee believed everything was OK
That is a far cry from saying the committee believes that now
Should be “were” anyway.
Ask them to comment on the ALL cause mortality population adjusted UK figures for 2020 and the fraudulent test that is used for the ‘scale’ of morbidity and mortality. Then tell them we do NOT need any of the talentless rubbish that are members of their society!!
Those who incite others to carry out medical experiments on children in order to ‘protect’ themselves are committing serious criminal offences
Devi Sridhar is an extreme version of someone who knows little but has huge delusions of grandeur.
How she can go on TV and talk about a subject area in which she has little to no background amazes me. Pure narcissism.
She constantly lies – but like Tony Blair she probably believes the lies at the time. ‘Vaccines have zero risk’ for example. She’s not a scientist – she’s a pathetic wannabe politician and powermonger
Indeed, she’s essentially an authoritarian political activist in pseudo-scientific clothing.
Her nauseating support for the appalling Sturgeon alone should disqualify her from any public position.
Narcissists are usually male, but not all of them
This 24-carat dummy is strikingly stupid. As the Speccie’s Steerpike has highlighted, she used tw@@tter to imply that Javid likened Covid-19 to the flu. But that is NOT what he did.
Stating that ‘in common with the flu, we’ll just have to get used to living with it’ does NOT mean he thinks ‘Covid-19 is like flu’, yet she, cretin that she is, described it as an ‘analogy’.
This is a similar cognitive error whereby simpletons think that if someone says ‘A is to B and C is to D’, they are stating that ‘A is similar to C’. That too is wildly wrong, yet a commonplace reasoning error.
She’s really NOT very intelligent at all. Heaven knows how she made her way in academe.
“Heaven knows how she made her way in academe.”
She isn’t physically unattractive
“She’s really NOT very intelligent at all. Heaven knows how she made her way in academe.”
She’s female and BAME
I think Ossettian and Catee are both correct.
Heck, I bet some of those academic types were so lovelorn they were more than willing to adjust young Devi’s grades upward for a big smile and the briefest of glimpses down a low-cut shirt made of the flimsiest, not quite opaque material.
The NHS website for vaccination training makes the same claim for the pertussis (whooping cough) vaccination.
Lost for words .. everyone, especially parents needs to watch this
https://vernoncoleman.org/videos/how-many-children-will-die-because-woman
If anyone has the time or inclination to do so, there are some pearls of vituperation in the Comments beneath the linked Beeb article that are worth reading.
Ferguson, Sridhar, Michie,
These people are a menace to society.
You can add Stephen ‘Third’ Reicher to that list.
Why are these howling jeremaiads continually given an uncritical platform when the likes of Mike Yeadon are ignored?
Broadcast media is totally corrupt.
Can we stop calling lies “misinformation” or any other such euphemism?
Could it be they like her so much because she is young, females and ethnic? The fact she’s unqualified and generally wrong makes no nevermind!
……. and, therefore, her views are protected from criticism because, well, racism! (and sexism!). The Meghan Markle thing.
This dangerous, unqualified loose canon ball should be made to debate, live on air, those eminent, extremely well qualified (actual) scientists who have an alternative point of view.
I do not suffer fools lightly and I include MSM who are giving this self appointed expert any airtime to spout her nonsense. I would like to see her in the dock.
Why? She ticks their pc, woke boxes. Doesn’t matter she spurts shite
I think you will find that Devi Shridha is unwilling to appear on TV with anybody who is remotely qualified to debunk her nonsense. I switch off whenever she appears. I am on amlodipine tablets as it is.
I am beginning to think that women in the public sphere are doing more harm than good. Of course this is a generalisation. However, it seems to me that the large numbers of women in Parliament (elected and unelected) have not improved decision making or indeed governing. It also seems to me that the very large numbers of women with Dr. Or Prof. in front of their name doesn’t mean they are highly trained in science or medicine. More likely they have a mediocre degree in counselling or soft humanities.
Why do the keep inviting her back?
Ticking boxes is why.
Why? Because she’s easy on the eye, the spoonful of sugar to make the medicine go down!
To plagiarise Trump supporters ‘Lock her up’.