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AstraZeneca Vaccine Linked to Blood Clots, EMA Official Says

by Michael Curzon
6 April 2021 1:01 PM
(FILES) In this file photo taken on March 09, 2021 A medical worker holds a vial of the British-Swedish AstraZeneca/Oxford vaccine during a vaccination campaign at the National Museum of Science and Technology Leonardo Da Vinci, which is currently hosting the anti-Covid vaccination campaign with Multimedica in Milan. - Denmark, Norway and Iceland on March 11, 2021 temporarily suspended the use of AstraZeneca's Covid-19 vaccine over concerns about patients developing post-jab blood clots, as the manufacturer and Europe's medicines watchdog insisted the vaccine was safe. Denmark was first to announce its suspension, "following reports of serious cases of blood clots" among people who had received the vaccine, the country's Health Authority said in a statement. (Photo by Miguel MEDINA / AFP) (Photo by MIGUEL MEDINA/AFP via Getty Images)

(FILES) In this file photo taken on March 09, 2021 A medical worker holds a vial of the British-Swedish AstraZeneca/Oxford vaccine during a vaccination campaign at the National Museum of Science and Technology Leonardo Da Vinci, which is currently hosting the anti-Covid vaccination campaign with Multimedica in Milan. - Denmark, Norway and Iceland on March 11, 2021 temporarily suspended the use of AstraZeneca's Covid-19 vaccine over concerns about patients developing post-jab blood clots, as the manufacturer and Europe's medicines watchdog insisted the vaccine was safe. Denmark was first to announce its suspension, "following reports of serious cases of blood clots" among people who had received the vaccine, the country's Health Authority said in a statement. (Photo by Miguel MEDINA / AFP) (Photo by MIGUEL MEDINA/AFP via Getty Images)

The Chair of the European Medicines Agency’s vaccine evaluation team has said there is a connection between the AstraZeneca vaccine and rare blood clots, although the exact cause of the adverse reaction remains uncertain. This news comes as Britain’s medicines agency weighs up whether to restrict the AZ jab for younger people. The Independent has the story.

A senior official at the European Medicines Agency (EMA) has said he believes there is a link between the AstraZeneca vaccine and extremely rare cases of blood clots reported in people who recently had the jab. 

In an interview with Italy’s Il Messaggero newspaper, Marco Cavaleri, Head of Vaccines Strategy at the EMA, said it was “clear there is a link with the vaccine” but there was still uncertainty about what exactly was causing such a reaction.

Mr Cavaleri said that among younger vaccinated people there was a higher than expected number of cases of cerebral thrombosis – blood clotting in the brain – compared with the general population.

He suggested that the EMA would make a statement on the situation later on Monday. The Independent contacted the EMA for comment.

The EMA has insisted as recently as last week that the “causal link with the vaccine is not proven” and continues to recommend people take the opportunity to get vaccinated when it is offered.

Last month, the agency said it “cannot rule out definitively” a link to a rare clotting disorder but that it is still “safe and effective” to use. In another statement, it said the benefits of the vaccine outweigh any risks.

EMA is of the view that the benefits of the AstraZeneca vaccine in preventing Covid, with its associated risk of hospitalisation and death, outweigh the risks of side effects

Channel 4 News has reported that Britain’s Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) is considering issuing new advice on the AstraZeneca vaccine for younger people.

The UK [medicines] regulator, the MHRA, and the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation are urgently scrutinising whether younger people – particularly women – could be at greater risk of getting a potentially fatal blood clot after the AstraZeneca jab than they are of dying from Covid. In either case, though, the risk is very small.

The Independent’s report is worth reading in full.

Tags: AstraZenecaEuropean Medicines Agency

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vargas99
vargas99
4 years ago

“The UK [medicines] regulator, the MHRA, and the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation are urgently scrutinising whether younger people – particularly women – could be at greater risk of getting a potentially fatal blood clot after the AstraZeneca jab than they are of dying from Covid. In either case, though, the risk is very small.”

Whether or not the risk is very small is not really the point though is it? The regime has bet the house on vaccines and it’s all going wrong. This is what happens when you allow profit motivated businesses to take over public health issues, absolve them from any legal or financial liability and permit them to bypass the normal process of vaccine approval and licensing.

If there is one area in which the precautionary principle should have been in operation and wasn’t ever considered, then this is it.

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Prester John
Prester John
4 years ago
Reply to  vargas99

In fact, the regime has bet your house on vaccines. The whole shebang is to protect the NHS, isn’t it? All the rent-seekers crowding round the honeypot are a symptom, not the cause, which is the State.

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mwhite
mwhite
4 years ago

Vaccine linked to blindness, deafness, miscarriages and 5,000 deaths | The Conservative Woman

Not just AstraZeneca

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Quebec9804
Quebec9804
4 years ago
Reply to  mwhite

Heartbreaking.
A glimpse of the suffering behind the numbers surfaced in an exchange on the Gibraltar government’s Facebook page, in which one person wrote: ‘I have an 85-year-old father who took the jab. I totally agree with you about them having lost the will to live. They just don’t care any more. They are too weak and old to make a difference. Living like they are is insufferable. Taking the jab is a win-win, they think. If it doesn’t kill them, they’ll be able to do more things; if it kills them, they’ll be out of it. Extremely sad. Breaks my heart to see my father like this.’
Would Boris accept this if he was his father?

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James Kreis
James Kreis
4 years ago

Although the MHRA is an agency of the Department for Health and Social Services, it has received in excess of £5million in grants from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation since 2011. How can the public be reassured that the agency’s decision making has not been influenced by Mr Gates who also funds the Global Alliance for Vaccination & Immunization (GAVI)?

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  James Kreis

And just like a bad stench it leads back to Gates Foundation.

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Marg
Marg
4 years ago
Reply to  James Kreis

Also they are touted as independent, but there internet presence as shows they are part of the government.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago

IMV Young women taking the contraceptive pill could be more prone to blood clots. There needs to be some serious prison time given to anyone giving these injections without explaining the risks.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

My neighbours daughter was vaccinated the other day, part of her job requirement, and told not to get pregnant for at least a year.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

My daughter-in-law was pressured int taking the vaccine she had previously decided not to take by work colleagues because was hping to conceive and later found that she was actually pregnant . She is naturally very worried and has since felt unwell.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

They are all precautionary measures, like making everyone wait for a while after the vaccination.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Thats assuring

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David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

My daughter-in-law, who was hoping to get pregnant and was hesitant, was encouraged to take he vaccine by her work colleagues . She later found that she was indeed pregnant, has since felt unwell and is now feeling anxious.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Which is why you should seek the person providing any vaccine to sign personal liability. They won’t of course. But that’s not the point. Taking these emergency therapies for something like Covid is all risk very little reward on your part.

Such is the weight of propaganda however, my view is well within the minority

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David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

No they flatly refuse any liability,I asked and that is what I was told.

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
4 years ago

“Channel 4 News has reported that Britain’s Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) is considering issuing new advice on the AstraZeneca vaccine for younger people.”

No rush guys, maybe let a few more young healthcare workers die while you are “considering” catching up with Denmark, Norway, Germany, Canada, Sweden who all took action two or more weeks ago.

Who is it that finances the MHRA again? Oh yes, the pharmaceutical companies.

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sophie123
sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

When the next healthy person dies of CVST following vaccination, how are they going to look themselves in the mirror? Do these people have no conscience?

The mindset is alien to me. This is not a cancer drug where patients are already sick and dying. These are HEALTHY people. Vaccines need to be safer than safe.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

I’m not in the young person group, but still feel I dodged a bullet, no wonder they’ve got a non liability clause on them

Last edited 4 years ago by DanClarke
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Lucan Grey
Lucan Grey
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

I got the vaccine on Saturday. Perfectly fine.

That’s because I can rationally assess the 5 in 1,800,000 risk additional risk vs the 1 in 100 risk I have of being dead in the next year anyway.

You might want to try being rational.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

It’s not about the fatal consequences of submitting to the snake oil as a novice in the Covid cult. I agree that the absolute risk can be exaggerated as much as the Covidiots exaggerate the risk of Covid. However, the side effects so far are certainly way ahead of those for known and tested medications, whilst the benefits are completely nebulous, with absolute risk reduction, as far as can be determined without proper testing, being remarkably small.

But it’s about the unethical tendencies lying behind the leaky vaccine scam : the undermining of basic testing protocols, the clear conflicts of interest and corruption, the subversion of long-established medical principles and threatened child abuse and totalitarian threats (beyond what already exists).

But don’t you worry : your fearful complicity is just one of millions. You aren’t that significant.

… although your action would have been a bit proportionately more significant and ethical had you declined.

Last edited 4 years ago by RickH
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lutherkehrt@gmail.com
lutherkehrt@gmail.com
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Yes. And as it also appears that the vaccine creators know that within 49 days your immune system will be no more effective than it was before you had the vaccine, why on earth would we want to bother?

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DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

I’m totally rational, so rational, I can see that this low mortality virus has been hyped and weaponised beyond what is should have been. It wouldnt even have got to pandemic status if WHO hadnt changed the pandemic criteria just prior to this

Last edited 4 years ago by DanClarke
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eastender53
eastender53
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Perfectly fine for the last three days. That’s conclusive proof all this side effect stuff is BS!

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

1 in 100? You’re probably venturing too far into the Internet here. I’d suggest following the trail of crumbs you left to guide you back home.

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lutherkehrt@gmail.com
lutherkehrt@gmail.com
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

He might be middle aged, and fat, and unfit. That would give him odds at that sort of level. Some might then say, “We can but hope”, but I would never say anything so mean.

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fiery
fiery
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

As someone who doesn’t have pyjama privileges I’ve worked in a frontline service throughout this shit show. I’ve gone out far more than I should, never worn a face nappy when shopping and never used hand sanitizer. At the age of 61 I’m in exceptional health and not on any medication. I’m not overweight either. If I was going to get Corvid 19 it would have happened by now. I believe the odds of my health being compromised by the vaccine are far higher than my chances if contacting thus so called virus and dying.

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sophie123
sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

You might want to try looking at German data. Or Norwegian. They’re being a bit more rigorous on surveillance.
THAT would be rational.

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

The Norwegian data, and even the German data (incomplete as it probably is at present), implies that the AZ vaccine poses more thrombosis risk to a healthy young adult than covid, even a healthy young adult who’s never had covid. And of course, anyone who’s had covid doesn’t need the vaccine.

Therefore any healthy young adult might, on a personal risk calculation, want to decline this vaccine – especially as there may well be a whole host of other problems yet to be revealed.

If you want the vaccine that’s your choice – but you shouldn’t insult the rationality of others who wish to decline.

Then again, I think you know that.

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swedenborg
swedenborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

It seems a perfect reasonable approach for the risks, we now know calculated with risk of dying in the age group, which I assume is the calculation you have done. However, you forgot one thing. Risk of finding side effects in 2-4 years time when the study finish. Risk of PAH(Pulmonary arterial hypertension) and cancer mainly Chronic Lymphatic Leukemia. To exclude such side effects is the meaning of having such longer clinical trials you have now been participating in.

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Tillysmum
Tillysmum
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Sounds as though the vaccine has done something to your brain.

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peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago

They know exactly what the cause of the blood clots are. They have been the recipients of an open letter about it weeks ago. Liars, one and all.
And just in case anyone was in any doubt about the efficacy of the so-called ‘vaccines’ , this report from eastern France. 11 people catch virus and transmit it in a care home after 2 jabs of the Pfeizer gene therapy, some now in hospital no doubt passing it on there.
No doubt the lies are being prepared as we read.
https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/Covid-cluster-found-among-11-vaccinated-pensioners-in-French-care-home?utm_source=Master+List&utm_campaign=c041e0c2d3-newsletter-april-2_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_9b5fbe85b4-c041e0c2d3-357796174&mc_cid=c041e0c2d3&mc_eid=fb17ae8d0a

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

They know exactly what the cause of the blood clots are. 

Exactly. And yes, they’ve known about it for weeks.

Clowns like us posting BTL on sites like this knew about it weeks ago, and they didn’t?? Liars. Criminal liars.

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Paul B
Paul B
4 years ago

They did test these emergency experimental substances for cross reactions with other medication right, for the appropriate time, before blackmailing young adults and women of child bearing age to inject themselves with it for no good reason?! Yeah, they must have, to not do so would be criminal….

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MizakeTheMizan
MizakeTheMizan
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

They’ve been fully tested. I know because Marianna Spring told me. She’s 25.

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topturkey
topturkey
4 years ago

The covid survival odds of a 39yr old woman without comorbidities is 99.9991%. I still simply cannot fathom why everyone is so f****g paranoid about catching covid, are wearing masks and feel they are ‘staying safe’ by avoiding all human contact and considering a vaccine where the chance of a blood clot is higher than their chance of having a covid complication not to mention other side effects.

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jcd
jcd
4 years ago
Reply to  topturkey

I am also totally baffled, even though at 73 years old my chances of covid survival are a tiny bit lower, they still seem better than having an long-term untested vaccine.

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Bellathebrave
Bellathebrave
4 years ago
Reply to  jcd

Absolutely agree the statistics graphs are all there for people to see. I’ve seen quite a few bitchutes etc by Dr Sherri Tenpenny, Prof Dolores Cahill and a few others. It is indeed for me the long term
side affects. Crikey I don’t think people realise that they have finished the clinical trials yet! The last sars 1 trials on animals failed the ferrets died but I expect most people that are commenting know this.

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Bellathebrave
Bellathebrave
4 years ago
Reply to  Bellathebrave

Haven’t not have!

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lutherkehrt@gmail.com
lutherkehrt@gmail.com
4 years ago
Reply to  Bellathebrave

Yup – two years to go, at least.

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I am Spartacas
I am Spartacas
4 years ago

I sometimes fear that we could have a medical scandal brewing here in years to come – maybe not on the scale of Thalidomide which was also approved and enthusiastically promoted as completely safe before later being regarded as the biggest man-made medical disaster in history – but something just doesn’t feel right about these vaccines that were rushed through and this won’t be the first time a vaccine was rushed out – the swine flu vaccination fiasco of 1976 springs to mind when after 45 million Americans had been vaccinated the whole program come to a complete halt when 450 recipients of the vaccine developed neurological problems.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

To have a “Medical Scandal” you need a “free and fearless” Press and Media . I somehow feel in this New World we would hear nothing.

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sophie123
sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Dunno. The Daily Mail seem to be running with this more and more.

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lutherkehrt@gmail.com
lutherkehrt@gmail.com
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

The DM are the sanctioned opponents – allowed to carp and cavil in order that we fools think someone is actually opposing this madness.

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rd0
rd0
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

Rushing one vaccine may be OK. 4 or 5 is pushing it. one of them is going to have serious after effects.

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago

Hancock said unequivocally ‘the Oxford Astra Zeneca vaccine is safe” on 17th March. But of course we now know as a fact this experimental vaccine isn’t safe.

And remember the CVST cases are likely to be the tip of one of many icebergs out there.

To spot the adverse reaction it probably has to be something quite unusual in its presentation which CVST is.

What about other conditions that aren’t so unusual but where there is a significantly increased prevalence of illness as a result of the vaccine. Do we really think the yellow card system with its under-reporting will pick these up? And what about small increases in risk of conditions resulting from experimental vaccination, they’ll never get picked up.

And without time travel we can’t possibly know the long term affects of the experimental vaccines (viral vector in the AZ case) that use a completely different technology to traditional innactivated or attenuated vaccines.

Why on earth would anyone swap a trivially small but broadly known (maximum) chance of a vaccine preventing a death from covid, for a completely unknowable but significant total risk of adverse affects from an experimental vaccine.

The expected claims that we will see from Hancock, the MHRA and the like that the benefits exceed the risk, that we will see in the coming days, should be viewed in the same light as Hancock saying the AZ vaccine was safe.

Last edited 4 years ago by Freecumbria
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DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

Are people thinking, there’s a vaccine on offer, I’ll have it, without thinking about why? Covid for the vast majority is nothing to even think about

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sophie123
sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Because, in my sisters case at least, she thought it would allow her to go on holiday without quarantines, testing etc. Basically a financial incentive.

One evening with me, Boris’s latest travel betrayal, and subsequent further AZ bad press, and she’s feeling pretty fucking horrified at what she has done. But she has not earned much in the past year (works in a gym), so was quite susceptible to the coercion.

Probably a lot in this camp.

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lutherkehrt@gmail.com
lutherkehrt@gmail.com
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

There are a whole list of methods with whic they are conning poeple into getting it.

They ran a test last year to see what effect telling people there was a shortage of toilet rolls would have. we failed the test, and believed the lie. This is now one of the ways they’re making people get the vaccine – ‘It’s running out’, ‘There’s a shortage’, and so on.

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Tillysmum
Tillysmum
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

That is exactly what one of my neighbours told me an hour ago. They offered it to me so I thought, might as well. It’s the thought of getting something free or no thought at all.

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TheFascistCoronaFraud
TheFascistCoronaFraud
4 years ago

This letter was sent to the EMA recently, giving notice that they will invoke the Nuremberg Code, and begin proceedings to have people charged for crimes against humanity.

https://doctors4covidethics.medium.com/rebuttal-letter-to-european-medicines-agency-from-doctors-for-covid-ethics-april-1-2021-7d867f0121e

In closing, failure to inform “vaccine” recipients of the risks and negligible benefits outlined here represents serious violations of medical ethics and citizens’ medical rights. Those violations are especially grave as all the risks we describe can be expected to increase with each re-vaccination, and each intervening coronavirus exposure. This renders both repeated vaccination and common coronaviruses dangerous to young and healthy age groups, for whom — in the absence of “vaccination” — COVID-19 poses no substantive risk.

Such is the real risk-benefit analysis of the COVID-19 “vaccines”. Either the EMA lacks the subject-matter expertise to appreciate the molecular science of this reality, or it lacks the medical ethics to act accordingly.

At best, we regard the EMA’s complacent stance on vaccine dangers to be symptomatic of the fact that, under the prevailing politico-medical response to COVID-19, medical ethics has migrated from the consulting room to a geopolitical stage. Faced with a medical problem, mass-medical intervention has seen the practice of medicine taken from doctors’ hands.In this politicized context, corporate and political actors may consider themselves free from ethical constraints, operating unbound by a medical code of ethics, unlike medical doctors. All actors, however, are bound by the Nuremberg Code.

The Nuremberg Code prohibits human experimentation of the very kind being endorsed and defended by the EMA. Even under the terms of their own original FDA authorization, COVID-19 vaccines are deemed “investigational” and their recipients “human subjects”, who are, by definition, entitled to informed consent. https://www.fda.gov/regulatory-information/search-fda-guidance-documents/emergency-use-investigational-drug-or-biologic#:~:text=Emergency%20use%20is%20defined%20as,21%20CFR%2056.102(d)%5D.

Misleading populations into accepting investigational agents such as the gene-based COVID-19 “vaccines”, or coercing them through “vaccine passports”, constitutes clear and egregious violations of the Nuremberg Code. The Nuremberg Code mandates voluntary informed consent “without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit [or] duress”. https://history.nih.gov/display/history/Nuremberg+Code

In other words, citizens have the right under the Nuremberg Code and related protections not to be subject involuntarily to medical experiments. It is clear that these experimental agents should be CONTRA-INDICATED in individuals not at elevated risk of serious illness & death if infected by SARS-CoV-2. Furthermore, the use of the experimental agents must also be withheld in the elderly population until a risk-benefit assessment has been properly conducted. In any event, the vaccine label must be revised to reflect the recently emerged serious adverse events addressed here.

We remind the EMA that Nuremberg violations constitute crimes against humanity under the Geneva Convention. Crimes against humanity are deemed “the worst atrocities known to mankind”, and are prosecuted under the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court. https://www.un.org/en/chronicle/article/role-international-criminal-court-ending-impunity-and-establishing-rule-law
Given the hundreds of millions and eventually billions of people who may be coerced into accepting these agents, the EMA, in persistently shrinking from open debate and the truth, will be seen by lawyers and historians as having actively assisted in crimes against humanity, with the full weight of the implications to all involved. We demand thatyou engage openly with us to ensure that the public have an objective understanding of the clinical risk profile of these gene-based interventions.

You understand that coercive pressure is being placed on citizens to receive COVID-19 vaccines, which are experimental medical treatments. Your responsibility to those citizens includes ensuring that they are informed of the adverse event risks of every such treatment. To date you have failed to do so, and have instead misled the public on the reality of the “vaccines’” risk-benefit profile.
If you continue to conceal the truth, efforts will be made to bring this to light and to see that justice is done. For the sake of the injured and the dead, and to protect further lives from similar fates……..

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TheFascistCoronaFraud
TheFascistCoronaFraud
4 years ago
Reply to  TheFascistCoronaFraud

Continuation of the letter…….

https://doctors4covidethics.medium.com/rebuttal-letter-to-european-medicines-agency-from-doctors-for-covid-ethics-april-1-2021-7d867f0121e

NOTICE

For the avoidance of doubt, if your regulatory body does not immediately suspend its “emergency” recommendation of potentially dangerous inadequately tested gene-based “vaccines”, while the matters which we have highlighted to you are properly investigated, we hereby put the European Medicines Agency on notice of being complicit in medical experimentation, in violation of the Nuremberg Code, which thereby constitutes the commission of crimes against humanity.
Furthermore, it is your indirigible duty as a regulatory body to ensure that all doctors worldwide are advised that they are taking part in medical experimentation via “vaccination” programmes, whether wittingly or unwittingly, with all the legal and ethical obligations that such involvement entails.
This email is copied to the lawyer Reiner Fuellmich. It is also copied to Charles Michel, President of the Council of Europe, and to Ursula von der Leyen, President of the European Commission.

Yours faithfully,

Doctors for Covid Ethics

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HowardElliott
HowardElliott
4 years ago

I am eagerly awaiting the data which lets us know how many daily deaths there have been within 28 days of receiving a coronavirus vaccination.

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swedenborg
swedenborg
4 years ago
Reply to  HowardElliott

You have it from Scotland.About 2300 deaths roughly 23% of all C-19 deaths in Scotland.This was in answer to FIA,In the answer they stated it was no proven relation to the vaccine.They explained that these were deaths naturally in 90-100 years old vaccinated,some C-19 deaths but not because of the vaccine.

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lutherkehrt@gmail.com
lutherkehrt@gmail.com
4 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

Virus = kills everyone who then dies.
Vaccine = kills no-one.

Propaganda = fishy.

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Occams Pangolin Pie
Occams Pangolin Pie
4 years ago

It’s strange but true that the Covid Vaccine leaflet that arrived with my invitation to get the jab clearly lists those who SHOULD get the jab. Apart from health workers and those with one or more of 10 or so listed serious health problems, the only hale and hearty people told to get the injection are those 65 and over.
This is seldom pointed out. But the NHS, here at least, says quite clearly who should get it. The 65s and over.

Is this to cover themselves? A table in a densely worded leaflet?

Will they limply wave the leaflet in the air at the Nuremberg trials. When every Tom Dick and Harry in the media is urging 30s 20s teens to get it, as a matter of necessity, in order to save their Nan and grab some pints of San Miguel in a club, hopefully abroad. The very definition of coercion and duress.

Clinical trials underway for children too. That’s some way from 65 and over.

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lutherkehrt@gmail.com
lutherkehrt@gmail.com
4 years ago
Reply to  Occams Pangolin Pie

The government and NHS have covered their backs on most things, by not actually saying or telling people to do what is claimed. For instance, we are allowed to sing in church, and we don’t have to socially distance in church. Also, the government never closed a single school, they scared local authorities and head teachers into closing them. And so on. Cover-up in advance in case their plan fails. “Not us guv” they’ll say.

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Marg
Marg
4 years ago

Suddenly coincidences are becoming more obvious. I don’t see the point of giving healthy youngsters who are unlikely to catch or die of the virus. Don’t get me started on the asymptotic infections. Doctors would call them hypochondriacs or diagnose munchhausen syndrome.

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cblifeform
cblifeform
4 years ago

Here are 12 important questions and answers before considering getting vaccinated: ?”If I get vaccinated can I stop wearing a mask(s)?” Government: “NO”
?”If I get vaccinated will the restaurants, bars, schools, fitness clubs, hair salons, etc. reopen and will people be able to get back to work like normal? Government: “NO”
?”If I get vaccinated will I be resistant to Covid?” Government: “Maybe. We don’t know exactly, but probably not.”
?”If I get vaccinated, at least I won’t be contagious to others – right?” Government: “NO. the vaccine doesn’t stop transmission.”
?”If I get vaccinated, how long will the vaccine last?” Government: “No one knows. All Covid “vaccines” are still in the experimental stage.”
? “If I get vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?” Government: “NO”
? “If my parents, grandparents and myself all get vaccinated can we hug each other again?” Government: “NO”
? “So what’s the benefit of getting vaccinated?” Government: “Hoping that the virus won’t kill you.”
?”Are you sure the vaccine won’t injure or kill me?” Government: “NO”
?”If statistically the virus won’t kill me (99.7% survival rate), why should I get vaccinated?” Government: “To protect others.”
?”So if I get vaccinated, I can protect 100% of people I come in contact with?” Government: “NO”
? “If I experience a severe adverse reaction, long term effects (still unknown) or die from the vaccine will I (or my family) be compensated from the vaccine manufacturer or the Government?” Government: “NO – the government and vaccine manufacturers have 100% zero liability regarding this experimental drug”
So to summarize, the Covid19 “vaccine”…
Does not provide immunity
Does not eliminate the virus
Does not prevent death
Does not guarantee you won’t get it
Does not stop you from passing it on to others
Does not eliminate the need for travel bans
Does not eliminate the need for business closures
Does not eliminate the need for lockdowns
Does not eliminate the need for masking

If after reading this you still decide to get the “vaccine”.. If you like, copy, paste & repeat. If not, enjoy your untested Jab & don’t worry about those of us that don’t want it. After all, you’re safe, right??

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lutherkehrt@gmail.com
lutherkehrt@gmail.com
4 years ago

I already have an issue with DVTs – and am therefore on Riveroxaban. I’d have to be utterly mad to get this vaccine, or the Pfizer one – even if there weren’t a whole host of moral issues with it.

Having said all that, Valverna seem to have come up with something rather more normal, a vaccine as we know it, and without the HEK293 cell issue either. Still remains one question though, I’m not at particular risk of this virus, so why any vaccine at all?

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