As a Consultant in Infectious Diseases and Internal Medicine in an NHS Hospital, I have been on the front-line throughout the COVID-19 pandemic. I have chosen not to be vaccinated against Covid as I am sufficiently protected by natural immunity following infection and repeated re-exposure.
The growing evidence base indicates that a Covid vaccination for someone in my position will not alter the possibility that I will infect a patient I am caring for. It is also of vital importance that we robustly defend the right to personal autonomy as the default position. In order to countenance trespassing the right to personal autonomy, there must be excellent reasons and excellent evidence for its necessity. Mandating these vaccines, whether for healthcare workers or the general public, is counterproductive and will only fuel distrust in government and the medical profession.
Where there is risk, there must be consent or patients will cease to trust us. I asked a patient of mine with Covid, who was certainly at risk and would have benefited from a vaccine, why he didn’t have the vaccine. He told me: “I don’t understand the ins and outs. All I do know is that the Government is not being honest with me.” Tragically, he died a few days later. I have also seen vaccine side effects. Although infrequent, they are a reality poorly covered in the media and not appropriately discussed in order to gain consent. I cared for a young woman whose risk of severe illness was tiny, but developed severe myocarditis following vaccination. She said to me: “Nobody told me this was a possibility.”
My decision not to be vaccinated was not easy. Although it is now reported the Government intends to U-turn, at the time I took the decision I stood to lose my job and career on April 1st 2022 if I did not comply. But this issue is too important. It involves matters that that should give all of us pause to consider and debate.
As a healthcare worker, it is very important not to put my patients at unnecessary risk, particularly as many of them are especially vulnerable. Conversely, it is also true that any expectation placed on a healthcare worker must be necessary, safe, effective and reasonable. In order to satisfy these criteria there should be robust evidence to support it.
For the purposes of clarity, COVID-19 in those who are at risk and have not been previously infected can be so severe that the risk-benefit calculation is strongly in favour of having a vaccination. But care should be individualised, and this calculation may be different for people who are younger and at lower risk.
In my case, the natural immunity acquired from previous illness significantly reduces my chances of further infection and the evidence also indicates that a vaccination would not materially change this. Some of the best evidence for this is data from very large cohorts published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in America.
In mostly Delta infections, natural immunity provides robust protection against infection and hospitalisation, and vaccination in addition to previous infection makes no significant difference to this.
While vaccination against Covid has been shown to be effective at reducing severe disease and death, we know that it does not prevent acquisition of infection (particularly with the current variants), nor does it prevent transmission. A large study from Oxford suggests vaccination against the Delta variant has no significant effect on transmission 12 weeks after vaccination compared to an unvaccinated person. If someone does get infected, having had a vaccine previously does not appear to alter how likely they are to pass it on. And it now looks like the vaccines’ protection against Omicron is even worse than for the Delta variant.
Why not be vaccinated anyway, even if it might help a bit? This is where we must consider the safety of the intervention. These vaccines have now been given to a lot of people, so we now have some experience in adults. However, nobody has been followed up for more than two years, and there have been significant side-effects detected, particularly with regard to myopericarditis (with mRNA vaccines like Pfizer and Moderna) and thrombotic disease (with viral vector vaccines like AstraZeneca). As a result, many countries have restricted the use of one or more of the vaccines in younger people. It is difficult to make a good estimation of the long-term risks of the vaccines given that they are new and documentation and collation of side effects has been patchy. So, questions remain.
My conclusion is that there simply isn’t the evidence that being vaccinated will significantly reduce the risk that I will pass on COVID-19 to patients, particularly when I am protected by previous infection. Testing healthcare workers for the virus is the best precaution to be taken to protect patients from infection rather than relying on these vaccines. Furthermore, I am not convinced that the safety of the vaccines has been sufficiently demonstrated to warrant forcing me to have one. As a doctor, I believe that personal autonomy in matters of health is fundamental and so I will defend that right for myself, as well as others.
The wider concern is that coercion, particularly where there are still unknowns, fosters increasing mistrust in healthcare and vaccination, a fertile ground for conspiracy and misinformation. We should seek to persuade people based on evidence, not force them – and vaccine passports and certificates are clearly forms of coercion. Fuelling distrust in vaccines will cost lives and it is crucial that we do not do this. The potential long-term damage could be enormous and we lose the trust of patients at great peril to public health moving forward.
Dr. Simon M. Fox is a Consultant in Infectious Diseases and Internal Medicine in an NHS Hospital. Watch him speak about his decision to Julia Hartley-Brewer on talkRADIO here and also on GB News here.
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On topic…
Boris Johnson gets report about lockdown-breaking parties
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/boris-johnson-gets-report-about-lockdown-breaking-parties-01643632945?mod=bnbh
Amazon delivered 5 litres of tip-ex to no.10 Downing Street yesterday
It wont be enough.
And some permanent markers with guaranteed redacting efficacy.
50 litres of B&Q Brilliant White more like …but then you need four coats to cover the dirt.
Four coats may not be enough. Quite clearly dirt always rises to the top.
The Cabinet Office say Johnson has only received an “update”, not “the report”.
Number 10 is briefing that the cops made Gray leave a lot out.
The cops are saying they didn’t.
If there were an independent media it would lead on what the cops say (on the record) about what the cops did (or didn’t do), not what some anonymous “sources”, who are obviously at Number 10, say about what the cops did.
Figures at Number 10 are quite able to speak on the record if allowed. The fact that they don’t, and that what they say about the police directly contradicts what the police themselves say on the record, suggests that Number 10 are lying.
If there were an opposition in Parliament it would address this discrepancy, which speaks of a coverup.
It would also make the point that senior civil servants at the Cabinet Office don’t take orders from the cops about what they write in reports that they make to the prime minister.
It’s up to the prime minister whether he publishes the report or not.
And it’s absurd that anybody, let alone Plod, should be able to censor it before it goes to the prime minister.
If the cops have any problem with something he publishes in it, they should arrest him, perhaps for obstructing a police investigation. They could apply for a prior injunction too.
But it’s none of the cops’ business what’s actually written in the report. And conversely, the police don’t have to agree with what’s in the report – either its findings of “fact” or its conclusions.
In simple language: the police don’t run the Cabinet Office, and the Cabinet Office doesn’t run the police. The police are law enforcement.
Of course the whole discourse is utterly ludicrous, given that Johnson himself is one of the people who are under criminal investigation.
Let’s just hope that Keir Starmer gives it some this afternoon, and also that Graham Brady and Tory “rebels” manage to grow a pair.
It will be interesting to see who resigns before today is out.
It wouldn’t be surprise me if Cressida Dick walks.
I can suggest a few places for her to walk to.
She likely wouldn’t be too welcome in São Paulo.
The NHS ‘vaccine’ mandate was a cruel and vile crime perpetrated by people who are vicious criminals
Ditto the care home vaccine mandate, which has already seen skilled, dedicated workers driven out of their jobs for standing by their principles.
The intention to commit the crime is still with us – they are just re-grouping.
A case of “Reculer pour mieux sauter”.
Very fancy – had to look that up – I always learn something new every day on DS
translates as “to draw back in order to make a better jump” AKA a strategic withdrawal
Possibly true
Very fancy but likely apt. Unless they are given a ” bloody nose” (for admin that is metaphorical) the globalists and their lackeys in governments will be back to screw our coffin lids even tighter.
I am seeing cancers take off like wildfires after the vaccine, says US doctor
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/i-am-seeing-cancers-take-off-like-wildfires-after-the-vaccine-says-us-doctor/
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I guess my view (non-medical lay-person, vaccine free) is that they don’t seem to offer any protection to the Covid strains available, so the vulnerable are at increased risk of exposure and therefore putting more pressure on the hospitals without the benefit of any protection of the worst of what Sars-COV-2 has to offer.
I am vaccine free, as at 27 years old, having had an alleged asymptomatic infection (tested in Hospital for appendicitis in March 2020), not trusting in big-pharma or the government intent on injecting me regardless I feel that I can fight off any infection I get if I get one.
I offered to donate my plasma as a recovered in June 2020 but they rejected them as the antibody count was too low to be of benefit (notwithstanding it appears the transfer of plasma was a dud anyway) – with my limited knowledge I responded to the letter from the NHS to ask what they expected, if I still had high antibodies I would still be fighting off my infection. I didn’t get a response.
The whole thing stank from day 1. Us sceptics have been at a disadvantage as there are almost too many parts to the narrative to attack. The tests are defunct, the co-morbid and old are the ones who perished, they witheld treatment, CPR and forced people to take pills which aided their deaths. We have seen folly, misstep and corruption on a massive scale from companies and governments, and now the data points to their latest tool for control being completely defunct.
Nice to hear from a young person able to think critically and who cares about people, truth and freedom. I’ll have to stop referring to your generation as snowflakes
I declined vaccination for covid19 on the basis that you would have to be a complete moron to allow yourself to be injected with any product that had been developed and pushed through the most basic safety testing at ‘warp speed’.
In addition why would you allow yourself to be injected with such a product when the manufacturers accepted no liability for it?
Why anyone trusts anything that any pharma says is beyond me, they are up there with bankers and politicians in terms of dishonesty and corruption. You can see reports in the BMJ of misconduct that occurred during the Pfizer trials
You can look up Maddie de Garay a young girl paralyzed by the vaccine whowas excluded from the results of the trials.
Plus it soon became apparent from the yellow card scheme and the VAERS reporting system that huge numbers of people were being harmed by it.
So roll up your sleeve and ‘do your bit’ because fatty Johnson says so, not on your nelly.
And then the all cause mortality of the placebo group was LOWER!
You are correct.
Also there were 500% more heart attacks in the vaccine group than in placebo.
You omitted the official stance that it’s not necessary to aspirate when jabbing intramuscularly, despite that the half-second or less taken per jab would establish that you’re not having vax shot straight into a vein.
Those shot straight into he vein are surely the ones who drop on the spot or very sooner after?
I fail to see how this “official stance” can even be legal?
…or indeed anything injected into a vein instead of intramuscular.
As one who has personally trained over 25,000 practictitioners in risk management I totally concur with the above.
Simply stated, for most people, the risk of harm from the vaccine (which is currently unquantified and expanding) exceeds the risk of death from Covid.
Try saying this on the BBC …that alone tells us how dark this really is!
No, you do not “concur with the above”, you concur with your own fantasy. Now re-read the “above” and see what it actually said.
It said
For the purposes of clarity, COVID-19 in those who are at risk and have not been previously infected can be so severe that the risk-benefit calculation is strongly in favour of having a vaccination.
This being an opinion a lot of people who are also qualified to have one don’t share. That’s identical to the statement in the text you’re replying to unless one incorrectly assumes that most people are at risk from COVID-19.
????
I am sympathetic. But, even so, the reasoning is too tentative, given the evidence base. i know it is difficult for front line staff to assess real world probabilities, and they have been under tremendous pressure. But the neither the danger of Covid serious infection, nor the efficacy of the vaccines are as painted.
I have not had a covid vaccine for the same reason I have not had a bone pushed through my nose. I don’t want to. That’s all the rationale I should ever need to give.
The bone would likely be more effective than a covid vaccine as it might stop you sniffing up a bit of the virus.
And, presumably, you’d have a bone to pick with anyone who disagreed.
That would just be an added bone-us
Very humerus
Rib-tickling.
Freedom of choice necessarily always includes freedom from having to justify said choice. Coercion starts with demanding that people must justify certain choices.
I emailed the following to the Prime Minister last week using the email form on the gov.uk site.
”I would like you to explain to me why NHS healthcare professionals who have been trained in many cases by the NHS, to work and therefore exercise their clinical judgement in the NHS are now under threat of dismissal (without any severance pay or other standard payments or the ability to receive unemployment support if we are to believe everything that your government officials are telling us) for exercising their clinical judgement by refusing your mandatory so called vaccinations, which incidentally have emergency use authorisation only, no marketing approval and no long term safety data, and with widespread evidence of severe or even fatal cardiovascular adverse events, especially in young men.”
His response, or rather that of his staffers was to block me.
Sadly the behaviour of the NHS in all of this has left many people who have previously been generally positive about the NHS, with a severe distrust which in my case but I suspect for many will not ever be repaired
When you don’t have a rational response to offer, don’t offer one?
Spaffer Johnson – true to form.
Conclusion: ‘Unfit for High Office’ ( take the Cabinet with you as well and don’t bang the door)
Ah! But your e-mail made him do a u-turn on it anyway!
Someone very wise once said to me was that it was her aim in life to make sure she never visited the doctor’s office. And this was about a decade and more before March 2020.
I am currently “risk assessing” almost every activity I undertake, making sure there are no risks of trips, falls, burns or food poisoning because I do not want to have to go to A+E or have any kind of hospital treatment so low is my trust now in the medical profession.
Probably too busy quaffing wine or taking woke lessons from Princess Nut Nuts!!
A sensible responsible doctor. It is a clear sign of a change in attitude that he is happy to put his name to this excellent article.
Thank you. Regardless of your reasoning, your personal choice on the matter is above all else and no coercion should be accepted.
“While vaccination against Covid has been shown to be effective at reducing severe disease and death,”
Debatable, at least. Possibly misinformation.
“Testing healthcare workers for the virus is the best precaution to be taken to protect patients from infection”
Only if the tests were reliable AND standardized.
They are neither, since 18 months, despite that and their other flaws being well known since then.
Mandating them is certainly wrong and, as long as they are invasive in any form, incl. just touching ones skin or gum, an equally illegal and amoral intrusion on and abolition of bodily autonomy as vaxx mandates and any discrimination of the unvaxxed and as mask mandates were and, in UK HC settings and airplanes, still are.
In the Pfizer trial the all cause mortality in the vaccine group was 50% higher than in the placebo group.
The number of heart attacks was 500% higher in the vaccine group than in the placebo group, but for some reason Pfizer and the MHRA didn’t want to highlight this before pushing the product out.
Thank you for standing up to tyranny and thank you again for sharing with us here.
Michael Gove says that ‘Christian forgiveness’ is required over ‘partygate’
More proof if any were need that Gove is an utter four letter expletive not entered
How about some Christian forgiveness for the people nicked by our brave police for their transgressions? Maybe a refund of their fixed penalties and a complimentary suitcase of booze.
You got that in before I could.
Gove – last seem crawling under a stone.
It was interesting how Gove got moved out of the Cabinet Office to save him from flak.
“Christian forgiveness” – ha! Gove does like his religious references. He once called Theresa May “Britain’s first Catholic prime minister” (never mind that she’s High Church Anglican, unlike her predecessor Tony Blair who is Roman Catholic and formally converted before he left office), and more than that he called her a “continuity Catholic”…the kind of language that probably went down a treat on the Shankill.
My understanding is that
Even among senior government politicians, Boris Johnson stands out as an especially dishonourable guy, this bloke who has difficulty keeping his c*** in his trousers and has quite a record for getting young women to sign “non-disclosure agreements”. No wonder he’s a pal of types such as Darius Guppy.
Does anyone believe that Blair’s conversion to Roman Catholicism was anything more than a cynical ploy to help further his aim of becoming president of the EU?
I thought Trotskyists like Blair regarded religion as the opium of the people.
This is a brilliant quote from Max Weber’s over 100 years old book/speeches “Science as a Profession/Politics as a Profession” on the latter and a politician’s most dangerous character flaw- vanity- most disastrous consequences: lack of objectivity and lack of responsibility.
It’s written as if it was a description of Johnson, Trudeau and the whole modern day lot of them.
In German, but there must be a translation.
““Einen ganz trivialen, allzumenschlichen Feind hat daher der Politiker täglich und stündlich in sich zu überwinden: die ganz gemeine Eitelkeit, die Todfeindin aller sachlichen Hingabe und aller Distanz, in diesem Fall: der Distanz sich selbst gegenüber.
Eitelkeit ist eine sehr verbreitete Eigenschaft, und vielleicht ist niemand ganz frei davon. Und in akademischen und Gelehrtenkreisen ist sie eine Art Berufskrankheit. Aber gerade beim Gelehrten ist sie, so antipatisch sie sich äußern mag, relativ harmlos in dem Sinn: dass sie in aller Regel den wissenschaftlichen Betrieb nicht stört. Ganz anders beim Politiker. Er arbeitet mit dem Streben nach Macht als unvermeidlichem Mittel. ‘Machtinstinkt’ – wie man sich ausdurdrücken pflegt – gehört daher in der Tat zu seinen normalen Qualitäten. – Die Sünde gegen den heiligen Geist seines Berufs aber beginnt da, wo dieses Machtstreben unsachlich und ein Gegenstand rein persönlicher Selbstberauschung wird, anstatt ausschließlich in den Dienst der ‘Sache’ zu treten. Denn es gibt letztlich nur zwei Arten von Todsünden auf dem Gebiet der Politik: Unsachlichkeit und – oft, aber nicht immer, damit identisch – Verantwortungslosigkeit. Die Eitelkeit: das Bedürfnis, selbst möglichst sichtbar in den Vordergrund zu treten, führt den Politiker am stärksten in Versuchung, eine von beiden, oder beide zu begehen.” [Max Weber; Politk als Beruf]”
In order to translate highlight, right click and choose ‘translate into English’!
Very interesting passage, yet I would want to insert that there is something called a ‘conviction politician’ who can be more into influencing opinions than power. I do agree (in advance!) that they may all too often only keep their honour intact at the expense of being outliers, in what is a naughty world!
Crawling under, or oozing back under?
‘Christian forgiveness’ is the partygate equivalent of the Dear Leader urging us all at Christmas to get jabbed because it would be what Jesus would want [or some such rubbish].
After all the hysteria, bullying, propaganda and censorship it is a joy to read such a principled, thoughtful and measured statement. Thank you Dr Fox.
Late November 2019 I caught the lurgy. Dealt with it using Lemsip and Strepsils. I take vitamin C and D every day and have not had a sniffle since. Why would I now compromise my immune system and vascular system for an experimental treatment? And which affords me plenty of risks but very little in the way of benefits. Only a madman would play Russian roulette with his health on those terms.
Or a very incurious and trusting citizen, like (unfortunately) most of my friends and family.
It never ceases to amaze me how many acquaintances – hitherto thought to be of stout mind & constitution – ended up taking the injections for reasons they admitted were other than protecting their own health. Obviously some fell to the “do you WANT to kill granny?” but plenty more just due to familial or social pressure. And some to “unlock travel again”, for whom I have reserved a silent contempt.
A down vote! That’s the problem: it’s the problem people refuse to recognise or are afraid even to comment on. The lady needs to lose weight.
https://www.everydayhealth.com/diabetes/type2/the-diabetes-epidemic-in-a-nutshell.aspx
That ship (or ships) left the dock quite a while ago, for me, at any rate.
For me it left port in 2017 when I was given a prescription for statins following a massive rise in my blood pressure. The rise in my BP occurred within a few minutes of taking the beta blocker I had just been prescribed for anxiety. I asked my GP what I thought was a reasonable question about the possible side-effects of statins only to be met with a curt “Of course there are side effects, I suggest you read the literature”. Well I did read the literature and as a consequence I returned the statins to the pharmacy for disposal along with the beta blockers and changed my diet from a high carbohydrate vegetarian diet to a high fat low carbohydrate omnivorous diet. Result: I am two and a half stones lighter with normal BP, no anxiety and I am taking no medication whatsoever. My thanks are due to Ivor Cummins and Dr. Malcolm Kendrick.
Good for you B. MK is a legend, a doctor I WOULD trust.
Bad territory to be on.
As this might be useful for someone: So-called beta blockers dampen the body’s response to adrenaline by blocking the corresponding receptors. Adrenaline rushes are often once of the consequences of a so-called biological fight or flight reaction. Anxiety is also one of these consequences, a state of heightened mental awareness supposed to enable people to detect dangers early enough to react to them. Hence, prescribing beta blockers against anxiety is about as useful as shifting the gear to neutral in order to turn the car lights off.
And it gets better: The usual reaction of the autonomous nervous system when it’s signals aren’t getting through is to increase the amount neurotransmitters which are being emitted. Hence, beta blockers ought to cause – in the long run – the actual problem, the adrenaline overload misdiagnosed as anxiety, to get worse.
That’s a problem I’ve had many happy encounters with in the last 30 years, possibly since ever. I’ve long since stopped consulting doctors about it, as they usually ignore everything I’m telling them about the actual problem. I used to take beta blockers during a particularly nasty period in 2020 but I’ve systematically weaned myself off them through incrementally reducing the dose, something I certainly don’t regret.
Dr MK has been, by his own admission, studying CVD, Cholesterol and all related issues for 3 decades; his revelations about the historical research are very important.
That makes it very difficult for a GP still using NICE “spreadsheet” dogma, which includes the world class metric known as BMI, to understand the complex issues; in my experience, not representative I know – very few GPs of my experience show any interest in this sort of prolonged study.
Good for you; you demonstrate the power of an independent mind, reading the facts which are not tainted by any narrative or agenda and making an informed choice. Or, in other words, doing what your Hippocratically oathed GP is being paid to do – but doesn’t ( similar brief experience with me, for roughly similar reasons ).
Dr MK is a very bright and honest man imho.
What next needs to happen again imho, is that a 10 letter word has to be shouted at all those who reckon these jabs are in any way necessary: IVERMECTIN.
The relevant chapter in RFKjr’s book that contains the fullest exposition of the trials and effectiveness is …..life changing; it is the elephant in the room from now on , and “we” should be pushing tptb daily to expose their criminal conspiracy to refuse this drug being used prophylactically. The massively documented efficacy is …mind blowing.
I hope everybody reads this book – it is devastatingly researched, and updates show it as the most serious of topics for the author; for the jabattoir/CV19 scam casedemic apparatchiks – I do not see how anyone engaged in the propaganda against IVM can survive/have survived any scrutiny.
Why should anyone listen to someone who speaks “as a doctor”?
Just be a person who has some knowledge, some experience, and some opinions.
And by the way, you’re not a “doctor” unless you’ve got a PhD or other doctoral qualification.
I think the guy was explaining that his knowledge comes from being a medical practitioner. He doesn’t need a PhD to use the title ‘Doctor’. If he has a doctorate I would expect it to be ‘MD’. However, medical students are normally titled “Doctor” upon graduation.
LOL! I made a comment about the clearly overweight lady in the picture, and subsequently how she can help herself, and it has been deleted!
Is this the new, improved “censored for our protection” DS ?
70% of the public aged 45-74 are either overweight or obese. Ref Blind leading the blind.
The decision to take a vaccine is a Faustian bargain. The deal goes like this: how many people would you be willing to die or be seriously adversely affected in order for you to feel safe from a disease. We seem as a society to have accepted that the answer is ‘as long as the amount is rare, or very rare’. For this doctor, it is described as ‘infrequent’. But what I want to ask each individual taking the vaccine: what is your precise number? If 1 in a million doses produced a bad reaction, well, you say, yes, I would take it. Ok fine, what about 1 in 100,000? 1 in 10,000? 1 in 1,000? 1 in 100? 1 in 10? What is your individual point at which you say, ok, I’m not willing for that number of people to die for me to feel safe?
Now that we have your number sorted out, the important thing is to be able to find out whether a particular vaccine is hitting above or below that number. This is the insidious element in the current situation: it is not possible to get an accurate number. So no one is really able to make the informed moral decision. It’s basically swing and hope. And trust. I trust that the numbers are below my personal threshold, and I’m not being lied to, so I take the vaccine. Well done, what was your number again, oh, 1 in 100,000. So you are willing for one person to die to make 100,000 people feel safe. Seems about right. Unless it’s someone you know right.
The entire morality around vaccines seems entirely screwed up to me. If you are going to get healthy people to take this medicine to avoid a potential disease, then the number of adverse events should be zero. If that is not possible because your medical science is insufficiently advanced to be able to create such a vaccine, then your vaccine is immoral. Come back in a hundred years and try again, when Fauci and Gates are dead. Then let’s have the discussion again.
But while healthy people must die so as to make other healthy people comfortable, how are we any different from the Aztecs sacrificing virgins so the crops will grow?
Are you sure you didn’t mean ‘Faucian’?
Fauci doesn’t do “bargains” he just: “Makes people offers they can’t refuse”!
Faust knew what he was signing – the gullible jabbed have no idea as they have been deprived of the information to allow them to give the legally required “Fully Informed Consent”
Faust was not bullied, coerced and threatened into signing the pact.
(But hey! After all, its “just an ordinary vaccine” isn’t it?)
I wouldn’t necessarily agree, though I see where you are heading. If I’m being generous to the population at large, ok, gee, yes, they are gullible the poor dears and don’t have the ability to read and think, so to that extent, yes, they suckers, I mean the people, don’t really have a fair chance at making a fair deal. But, actually, no, scrub that, of course they do. Nobody is being deprived of any information, it’s all there, if you have the time and inclination to do the work. No, the problem is not that the powers that be are preventing people having the necessary information to make informed decisions, the problem is that the people by and large are dumb, lazy and couldn’t be bothered. It’s as if Faust was sitting back on the couch munching Doritos and watching Love Island when the devil offered him the bargain and he was like, yeah, whatever dude, that sounds fine, can you please move a little to the left so I can see my flatscreen? So yeah. I’m sticking with Faustian, though Faucian is more than acceptable. But the gullible have only themselves to blame.
No, it’s just a matter of weighing chances that you die given the decision one way or the other.
It’s also a matter of weighing cost to society/healthcare based on your decision. In fact it’s a rather boring insurance fee calculation, which for some “strange reason” no insurer has attempted yet.
All the necessary data is there, and the outcome of this calculation would certainly not be that everyone must vaccinate, and not that they must pay some exorbitant fines or be fired from work or banned from society.
The reality is that the outcome of such calculation would be so trivial and so embarrassing to the covidians that they prefer it not to be performed at all.
Wouldn’t it be tricky for insurers to estimate possible future side effects of multiple vaccination?
I’m talking about insurers estimating the additional healthcare burden from not vaccinating. And for that purpose we already have plenty of data.
For a 40 year person, maybe let them pay 20 pounds extra (yearly!) health insurance to cover the eventuality of them blocking an ICU bed in the next year with a chance of 0.01% as a result of their refusal to “be a good person” and then sod off.
If you wanted to estimate the risks of vaxx side effects, you could do it using all the existing data as well, and adjust slightly as new data emerges. Maybe make this 20 pound fee 19.99 pounds to compensate.
No, your no is wrong. Utterly wrong. Just so wrong. No, no, no, no, no. That’s a no from me.
“It’s also a matter of weighing cost to society/healthcare based on your decision.”
No it’s not. I note you suggest a £20.00 premium for those who choose not to get injected, which you then reduce by £0.01 because of possible side-effects caused by the so-called vaccines. You have neither the medium nor long term data to make that calculation. As for the short term data, how reliable is that?
What we do know is that the absolute risk reduction from SARS CoV2 of the Pfizer venom is 0.84% but the risk of a heart attack relative to the un-jabbed is 500% greater. Next time show your workings.
Oh yes, we know how many unvaccinated vs. vaccinated people got treated in ICUs, and we can compare that to the also known vaccination rate in order to arrive at reliable data. In case you haven’t noticed, all the yapping that is going on in articles here on DS concerns “efficacy” in terms of risk of infection, not in terms of preventing severe illness – guess why? Because this point cannot be argued, not even by Dr. Jones et al.
In fact the availability of such data is the sole reason why vaccines were allowed to market and why we have “vaccination campaigns”. Except in the alternate reality where vaccinations are designed to kill people, of course. But even Dr. Jones and Toby Y. do not live in this alternate reality, just certain commenters.
And where’s the source for your “500% heart attack risk increase” claim?
“…we know how many unvaccinated vs. vaccinated people got treated in ICUs…” do we indeed? By ‘unvaccinated’ do you include those ‘vaccinated’ within the previous 12 days whose immunity has plummeted as a result?
And it’s worth bearing in mind that the claim that the ‘vaccines’ were only ever meant to lessen the severity of Covid19 is not true. Anthony Fauci himself said that if you got ‘vaccinated’ you would be a dead-end for the virus, and Sleepy Joe Biden declared “If you get ‘vaccinated’ you won’t get Covid”.
What pharmaceutical companies mean by “efficacy” is the relative risk reduction. Now I have never claimed that the ‘vaccines’ were designed to kill people, but there is no doubt that they do and that companies like Pfizer could not care less their products kill so long as they make a profit.
“In fact the availability of such data is the sole reason why vaccines were allowed to market and why we have “vaccination campaigns”. There was no such data when EUA was given.
If the Government gave a toss about public health it would recommend that the public take 4000 IU of vitamin D3 daily and the sick be treated with calcefediol and ivermectin.
Good post. My number is non existent though. I think everybody should take individual responsibility for their own health and not rely on anyone else.
Well done to Dr. Fox for sticking to his principles and displaying the courage of his convictions to Savage Jabhead.
One of the many issues with the jabs for me is encapsulated in the phrase “we are fighting this year’s war with last year’s weapons”
I remember both Vallance and Zahawi (when the latter was jabs minister) talking about how quickly these viruses mutated and how jabs could never outrun them, particularly when we were jabbing during a pandemic. Jabs would need to be constantly modified and even then would barely keep up.
The jabs were based on the Wu-Flu which then mutated into Delta and Omicron. They are based only on the spike protein which I believe allows the rest of the virus to escape and mutate. I also believe that the problem with Omicron is that this time, the mutations are in the spike protein itself. Perhaps someone could correct me if I’m barking up the wrong tree. (Or just barking!)
The vast majority of us survived the Wu-Flu variant and got through the winter of 2020-2021 even before they started jabbing-we even did “Eat out to help out”. OH and I did look into the Valneva whole virus vaccine before the order was pulled. “Inexplicable” was how the vaccine Csar described this cancellation but we would only have taken it as the VERY last resort if it meant that we could travel again.
What would be the point of us rushing to take these particular jabs which were based on the original virus when it has long since disappeared?
You need to ask Gates, Schwab and Soros and their Global minions for the answer to that one.
The jabs were based on the Wu-Flu which then mutated into Delta and Omicron.
I don’t think it’s entirely clear-cut that Omicron really did evolve from the Wuhan strain. It might have done, but there’s a case to be made that it evolved alongside or separately from the Wuhan original. It’s all very odd.
At least odd enough not to queue up to be injected with a pharmaceutical designed to combat the Wuhan line.
Can DS stop publishing pictures of healthy young women – pointlessly masked-up – being injected with an mRNA experimental ‘Gene Therapy’ product containing ingredients not fully disclosed, when we know that some similar young women are being injured and are dying as a direct consequence?
I find the images deeply offensive – the masks even make them look like anonymous prisoners.
But, surely, they are?
I’ve noticed over and over that the random pictures of people getting the jab published in mainstream media are of young attractive women in skimpy tops. Surely this is my own twisted perception, right, and not something that the Nudge unit could possibly have dreamed up. After all, that would be offensive or something wouldn’t it? But yeah, not a lot of pics of fat old bastards in their dungarees getting the clot shot.
I did see one fat bastard getting jabbed, Boris somebody or other.
Ah, but we are not here to censor images that some snowflake finds “deeply offensive”, are we?
I agree, I can no longer bear to see images or film of this violation. It repels me.
Although the article by Dr Simon Fox is welcome I would like someone to explain what evidence he has seen which is NOT statistically flawed that makes him claim …..
“vaccination against Covid has been shown to be effective at reducing severe disease and death”.
All the reports and scientific papers I have seen are flawed and highly biased towards showing vaccine effectiveness.
Can you post links to those please?
The UKHSA in the Vaccine Surveillance Report reference a number of studies to back up their claims that the vaccines are effective at preventing hospitalisation and death ……
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1050721/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-4.pdf
6. Lopez Bernal J, Andrews N, Gower C, Robertson C, Stowe J, Tessier E and
others. ‘Effectiveness of the Pfizer-BioNTech and Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccines on
COVID-19-related symptoms, hospital admissions, and mortality in older adults in
England: test negative case-control study.’ British Medical Journal 2021: volume
373, n1,088.
7. Vasileiou E, Simpson CR, Robertson C, Shi T, Kerr S, Agrawal U and others.
‘Effectiveness of first dose of COVID-19 vaccines against hospital admissions in
Scotland: national prospective cohort study of 5.4 million people.’ 2021.
8. Hyams C, Marlow R, Maseko Z, King J, Ward L, Fox K and others. ‘Effectiveness
of BNT162b2 and ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 COVID-19 vaccination at preventing
hospitalisations in people aged at least 80 years: a test-negative, case-control
study.’ Lancet Infectious Diseases 2021.
These all use “Test-Negative, Case-Control studies” which are criticised here …..
https://dailysceptic.org/2021/11/13/the-flaw-at-the-heart-of-the-ukhsas-vaccine-effectiveness-study/
Links to the above studies can be found on the PDF.
This paper is also flawed ….
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2107058
Excellent. Plenty of bedtime reading. Many thanks.
I’ll say one thing about Covid (and I’d be interested to know if anyone else has experienced this), but since getting it in March 2020 – in bed 3 days, fairly crappy but not dying – I haven’t had so much of a sniffle or anything. Normally get a couple of colds a year, buut for nearly 2 years now, nothing. Not complaining, mind.
Yes! My OH and I both had what we now believe was “the coof” back in late 2019/early 2020. Bit of fever, loss of taste and the most horrendous cough. The cough for me was the worst I’ve ever had. Felt rough, had paracetamol and honey and lemon, plus various cough mixtures. For me it lasted about a week, my OH had about 10 days, then a mild attack of a bad cough about 2 months later.
But since then, nothing.
Occasionally, one of the other of us has felt we might be getting a cold, but we’ve had a Lemsip, gone to bed, and in the morning, whatever it was has vanished.
And neither of us has had any sort of cough. Really odd.
Almost exactly the same here – got a flu-like virus in late February 2020 that lasted all of four days – I knew nothing about covid (or coronavirus as was called then) – then the msm was pushing scare stories about a pandemic virus that originated from China and listed the symptoms and I thought ‘hang on, this is what I had‘ but I thought it was the flu .. as you say, you felt a bit crappy for a few days but at no time did I ever felt my life was under threat – it felt like the flu and I treated as such. I had nothing else for about 18 months even when the vaccinated that surrounded me were all coming down with bad cold-like symtoms even during the summer months – being in close proximity to them all I was surprised I lasted so long but eventually I suffered very brief mild cold-like virus that lasted about a day or two – but that quickly vanished and was nowhere near as bad as the flu-like covid back in 2020. I know of people who have cold-like symptoms for going on two months and just can’t seem to shake it off.
But thats it for me over the last couple of years.
However, the vaccinated around me are still coming down with all kinds of cold/flu like viruses including teens in the family who have had the jab too – one teen aged 15 who had the jab seems to be getting one cold after another – the latest cold-like virus is so bad they have developed scabs around their nose where its so sore and recurring coldsores on their lips – a virus that usually develops when the body is under stress or run down.
But no one ever seems link this wave of recurring colds and flus with the vaccines.
Incredible really.
Maybe omicron is outcompeting all the other viruses that would normally be circulating, so there are none to catch? And you are immune to Om as u have had covid?
I wonder what is known of the ecology of viral disease. Maybe not much.
Similar to my experience in week 52 2019. Nothing unusual since, but quite recently I decided to have a proper job done to see if it might have been an attack by SARS-Cov-2, using the T-spot technique done by Oxford Immunotec, to see if I have a batch of T-cells. It was done via https://www.integrativehealthclinic.co.uk/ that took the blood sample and sent it off to them in Abingdon. The result was that there wasn’t any, so no evidence that it was caused that way, so probably just another ‘common cold’ like infection back then.
If the author of the article has had that done (not clear if it was done or not), it would demonstrate that he’s naturally immune to it for the time being. Those who want such tests done privately as I did are looking at about £200, so I don’t think his boss would want to pay for it as an expense!
For the avoidance of doubt, I decided not to accept the offer of a jab last March, and so far it looks like a good choice, given the emerging evidence.
I’d be really interested to know from an NHS insider, what treatment is offered to Covid sufferers in hospital. And whether the vaccinated and unvaccinated are treated in exactly the same way.
Now that WOULD make for an interesting article!
On slightly different tangent, someone posted a link on here yesterday to a video between 2 US commentators discussing covid and medical treatment, partic remdesevir, and both of them were in agreement that even if they got severe covid they would be going nowhere near a hospital on the premise that they didn’t like what they were hearing about the “treatments” being deployed in hospitals and the danger they would feel themselves to be in if they were in hospital and had no one to advocate for them and “protect them” from being subjected to treatments they didn’t want or that might hasten their demise.
“While vaccination against Covid has been shown to be effective at reducing severe disease and death …”
There are analyses available from numerate, intelligent, rational people which show that this conclusion may well be the result of a statistical illusion.
Observational data are notoriously vulnerable to bias and confounders; Covid data are no exception.
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/i-am-seeing-cancers-take-off-like-wildfires-after-the-vaccine-says-us-doctor/
Seneff says the result of these changes produces a very different immune response to the vaccines compared with natural exposure to the virus. The jab profoundly impairs biochemical signalling vital to a healthy immune system. It also disturbs regulatory control of protein synthesis and cancer surveillance, making tumour growth more likely.
‘Cancer is a disease generally understood to take months or, more commonly, years to progress from an initial malignant transformation in a cell to development of a clinically recognised condition,’ she writes. Since adverse event reports are logged within months or days of the jab, ‘it seems likely that the acceleration of cancer progression following vaccines would be a difficult signal to recognise. Furthermore, most people do not expect cancer to be an adverse event that could be caused by a vaccine.’
Yet an analysis of the US adverse event database shows that it reflects increases in a wide range of cancers, ‘and dramatically so’.
“Senator Johnson said his office had put the Defense Department and Biden administration on notice that they must preserve and investigate the data.
‘The increase in cancer is something I’ve been hearing about for months,’ he said. ‘Quite honestly, I’ve told people I don’t think the public is quite ready for that yet. But this is frightening.’”
I think if ever the public needs to be told something it is this. It might just conceivably begin to wake people up.
Check this out…https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/01/29/ons-data-covid-vaccinated-children-52x-more-likely-to-die/
https://hughboone.substack.com/p/and-if-you-go-chasing-rabbits-and
“Rare adverse events are defined as those occurring in 1/1000 to 1/10,000 patients”
Thus 0.1% – 0.01% of a vaccinated population experiencing adverse events is considered rare.
The UK currently works out as having 2.7% of the Covid vaccinated population (1 or more doses) experiencing adverse events. This is using official MHRA figures.
Covid vaccine adverse events are therefore not rare, even without considering the under-reported nature of vaccine adverse events.
The lady in the picture looks like she is aiming a dart rather than vaccinating someone.
Post from Mike Yeadon’s telegram page, …a little unclear, but i think Enigma refers to the group that is analysing the batch inconsistencies in the vaxxines.
It appears to refer to suspicions that the manufacturing process is what is leading to batch inconsistencies, where some mRNA production is inadequate and incomplete, so I suppose (from reading this) that that batch is relatively inert.
Enigma is finding % intact mRNA predicts a substantial fraction of the observed batch toxicity.
And you don’t need anything from Enigma to know, for sure, that all four main claimed “vaccines” were always going to injure & kill.
I’m appalled at former colleagues, probably not involved directly, but looking at their shoes while this is going on.
Examples from over 30y in R&D (not vaccines) which are inviolable regardless of type or medical intervention:
1. Experimental technology not once used successfully in a launched product, numerous serious faults even ten years ago have not been solved:
(a) mRNA unstable, mRNA delivery to inside of cells limited unless harsh chemical solvents or high DV voltages applied.
(This refers to spike I suppose)
(b) least stable component of alleged virus. Least likely to induce cross-immunity to new variants. No immunologist so pick this target.
(c) chosen immunogen known to be toxic, being “fusogenic”
(promotes clumping of cells, which initiates blood coagulation).
All four lead companies selected spike. Collusion. No toxicologist would have chosen this.
(d) spike is least different from numerous human proteins, rendering ‘off target’ toxicity much more likely, meaning neo auto immunity very likely
(example raised by Wolfgang Wodarg & me prior to any emergency authorisations is syncytin-1 & fertility.)
There is now two lines of evidence that our assessment was reasonable now exists, in that vaccinated women promptly develop antibodies to syncytin-1 & the US military equivalent of VAERS is showing a nearly three-fold rate of miscarriage.
None of four agents have a complete reproductive toxicology in hand.
Also, the mRNA products, being formulated in novel, lipid nanoparticles, well known to lead to accumulation in ovaries. Both main companies knew this for certain, long before selecting mRNA & LNPs.
(e) injectable vaccines do not, and I sincerely predict never will, generate “sterilising immunity”, because the airway mucosa is bypassed.
(f) some of the lipid used in LNP formulation carry a known acute toxicity risk, triggering potentially lethal anaphylactoid responses. VAERS shows that this is a valid concern.
This is but a partial set of concerns.
This isn’t about public health. The uppermost three priorities in any public health context are safety, safety & safety, because the intervention will be administered to billions of people.
If it was about public health, there are at least three groups to whom you’d NEVER administer agents of this kind:
(i) children & any other grouping which is at near-zero risk of severe outcomes including death from the virus. There’s no risk posed by the virus so automatically it’s a making policy to jab the children.
(ii) those who are recovered from infection, because they already have immunity which is robust, complete and durable. It’s also more dangerous to vaccinate the already immune.
(iii) pregnant women & indeed females of child-bearing potential (by which I mean even girls, because of the ovarian accumulation issue).
Comparing the profile of these agents with the actual hazard presented by the alleged virus, I think is unequivocal that the manufacturers have either been astonishingly incompetent (to the extent that this alone is malign) or engaged in criminal conduct.
I pledge to give evidence orally or in writing at any criminal trial of anyone relating to these agents.
Best wishes
Mike
Dr Mike Yeadon
Robert F Kennedy pointed out last year that once you have a mandatory vaccination policy (and loss of bodily sovereignty) you open the door to mandated abortion (for the good of society, mandated euthanasia (for the good of society) mandatory sterilisation (for the good of society)
This is a battle of overriding importance in its implications, if we lose it we lose everything.
https://www.francesoir.fr/opinions-entretiens/problems-these-vaccines-pose-must-be-confronted-and-urgently-jean-marc-sabatier
Fascinating trio of interviews with Sabatier on the dangers of ADE and vaccines. very informative
The MHRA Yellow Card system reports 435 cases of VITT.
I have seen 2 of them who both spent a week in ICU.
Given that there are about 200,000 UK doctors, I find the 435 number very hard to believe.
I think that doctors are being pressured not to report vaccine complications.
I did not get vaccinated for sound, logical reasons and like your unfortunate patient I only know for sure my government, the media and many institutions are lying to me. I have some theories and they are all worthy of the gallows. I hope it is just the most astounding outbreak of incompetent bureaucracy ever, but I don’t think so.
Coercing these gene therapies on people who were at no risk from the virus is evil. My friend’s husband aged 56, slim and very fit, had the booster just before Christmas and last week had a massive heart attack caused by blood clots. He wasn’t expected to survive, but has now been sent home for what will be a very long recovery. He has significant, permanent damage to his heart and may never work again.
Well written piece which should never have needed to be written. Covid19 is not a virus: SARS-CoV-2 is the virus which causes variable symptoms and infection mortality. It is not ,and never has been, a public health emergency but representing a failure to be able to manage the disease because of lack of knowledge and experience. In all other diseases primary treatment at presentation is paramount ,with vaccination of the at risk groups if and when the safety profile of a vaccine has been determined . Eg HIV.where success with antivirals revolutionised pathological progress. Do Surgeons need HepB etc
We do not get vaccinated every year for HepB but have antibodies checked. Why not check for SARS antibodies?The Govt dare not suggest this as many of the vaccinated would not have antibodies.
it is reprehensible that clinicians have permitted the vilification of the unvaccinated when they are fully aware that there is no evidence that they can harm but the vaccination mandate certainly has caused harm.
I believe that the medical fraternity still haven’t fully grasped the destruction that these experimental injections are going to reap on humanity. This should have been stopped after a few weeks, from introduction. The drug companies have been seen to have falsified trial data and relieved of liability from any injury. The tyrannical coercion applied by governments across the world to force us into taking the jabs is staggering and completely unprecedented. The growing indications of damaged immune systems from repeated injections causing Autoimmune deficiencies, increased blood clots, cancer increases, sepsis, miscarriages and hundreds of other serious side effects is horrifying.
There Are Now 365 Studies that Prove the Efficacy of Ivermectin and HCQ in Treating COVID-19. Any hospital administrator who mandated the shots to employees to comply with the government mandate for Medicare and Medicaid reimbursement and who refused to allow alternative treatments to be tried, doctors who pushed their patients to take the EUA drug without giving fully informed consent, anyone who forcefully administered the shot, the AMA, AAP, Boards of Health, CDC, FDA, NIH, WHO, scientists who participated in the development, Big Pharma (Pfizer, Moderna, J&J, Astra Zeneca, et. al.), anyone who pushed the sick into nursing homes resulting in deaths, all must be arrested, prosecuted, tried and if found guilty sentenced to prolonged imprisonment and fines or death for intentional homicide. Get your ivermectin before it is too late! https://ivmpharmacy.com
So many doctors think these vaccines are effective due to studies that demonstrate it, yet 70-80 of covid related deaths are in those vaccinated. The thing is, those studies are deliberately corrupt due to the 14 day delay in classification in each vaccinated group. https://inproportion2.talkigy.com/covid_vaccine_tricks_2022-01.html