The ZOE Covid Study App (which recently changed its estimates again, which doesn’t exactly instil confidence) released a study earlier in the month (or rather a press release with no link to an actual study) which claimed natural immunity following infection “only gave 65% protection against catching it again”. This compared to 71% protection from the AstraZeneca vaccine (rising to 90% for those who had tested positive for Covid before) and 87% protection from the Pfizer vaccine (rising to 95% for the previously test-positive). The researchers say the results came from during the U.K. Delta wave.
This is a surprisingly low estimate for the protection given by natural immunity. Other estimates have tended to be more like 80% against testing positive and 90% against symptomatic infection. A recent study from Israel (not yet peer-reviewed) found natural immunity was 13 times better than Pfizer vaccination at preventing PCR positives during the Delta surge and 27 times better at preventing symptomatic infection.
The ZOE result is similar, however, to a recent (very flawed) study based on the ONS infection survey, which claimed to find just 55% protection from natural infection. A similarly flawed study from Oxford University, also based on the ONS survey, found natural infection just 66% effective.
The main problem with the ZOE study is that it only looks at infections from May and June 2021. This was mostly a time of very low prevalence, though with the beginnings of the Delta surge occurring in the latter half.
It was also a period in which infections occurred largely in the unvaccinated (for reasons that remain somewhat unclear), pre-dating the surge in infections in the vaccinated that occurred from the second half of July.
Significantly, it was a period in which, according to analysis of Government data by HART, almost all positive tests were from asymptomatic individuals.
As Clare Craig points out, this means many are likely to be false positives.
The question is, why do a study on such an anomalous period, and leave out the more than three months of data following it when reported infections in the vaccinated surged?
It seems safe to say that this is yet another study with serious flaws which gives a misleadingly high impression of the protection from vaccines, and a misleadingly low impression of the protection from natural immunity.
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I dont care who they are, I don’t care about their race, colour or creed they are pedophiles and all of them should be spat on! Treated with disgust and locked up forever , dirty f#@ing bas@#ds
If they were dogs they would be put down, why not these people? they serve no use to society and are a danger to it. Capital punishment should be bought back for such crimes, and should be administered quickly by the State. Politicians are very keen on pushing the “Assisted death” laws, surely the removal of these monsters from society would be a far greater service to the country and the victims.
Couldn’t agree more
But not locked up here. Send them to their places of origin where, it appears, their behaviour is viewed as unexceptional.
Correct.
And again, couldn’t agree more
Spot on— because Permanent Deportation is the Only Thing They Fear.
FFS they even have an alternative name for it, to make it less serious:
Minor Attracted Person (MAP)
They are pedophiles, child abusers, the absolute scum of the Earth.
I would vote for the death sentence for the worst of them, and long jail terms in normal prison community for the lesser evil ones.
They should be named and shamed and have PEDO branded on their foreheads.
I realise there are degree’s and we have to be careful in some cases, like those where a couple of 15 year old’s have “consensual” intercourse.
But surely, we know when this is clearly wrong!
Someone elsewhere wrote that Musk has been a catalyst,but what really has changed,and will continue unstoppably, like a rising tide,is that the women have grown up. They now have their own voices and are speaking out.
However,much people like Rory Stewart (‘only 90 men involved’) try to minimise this,the full horror is coming out. Because justice has been delayed so long it is going to be very painful,but it needs to come.
We are all part of the failure he says . No F- Off with that ! Most of us are too busy living & paying TAX to the useless vacuous Chunts running the show !!!
I agree Freddy.
The fact is that the establishment and those working for it have succeeded for many years in keeping a lid on the whole subject and when some stories burst into the mainstream they are quickly covered over. Oldham Council in particular will ALWAYS scream “Far Right” even though there are no Far Right in Oldham and then for good measure raise the spectre of race riots. Their usual line is “barefaced lies.”
Yes, one Tory politician was even shrieking hysterically that any mention of Pakistani Muslim Rape Gangs would cause “a massacre”! What an imbecile!
THEY’RE the ones rampaging through the streets of English towns brandishing swords and machetes. The English would be arrested for brandishing so much as a carrot!
That is as insulting as the notion of “collective responsibility” that was promoted in Germany following WW2.
It WASN’T collective responsibility, and we are NOT all part of the failure. This is another case of those who are actually responsible attempting to shift blame away from themselves when their crimes are uncovered.
Well said.
While a particular ethnic group has been associated with these crimes, this does not in any way give the full picture. Police, social workers, politicians from many ethnicities and walks of life chose to let it continue rather than speak out, and sometimes persecuted the victims
A moral reckoning is on the way, and a special place in hell awaits these people.
The entire Establishment is DESPERATE to put “this issue” in a box; close the lid; lock it and throw it to the bottom of the deepest ocean.
Why? Because most of them are implicated in the official policy of “turning a blind eye” in order to pretend we have a successful multi-cultural society.
Gordon Brown, allegedly, said that nothing should be done about the Rape Gangs because the young teenagers and pre-pubescent girls being systematically gang raped had made a lifestyle choice. Jacqui Smith, then Home Secretary, allegedly sent a written instruction to Police Chiefs not to pursue the Rape Gangs.
Raja Miah says that there was a pact operating between Labour MPs/Councillors and the “Community Leaders” in the towns/cities involved who operating the Rape Gangs that in return for “turning a blind eye” they would get the Muslim block vote.
None of these accusations have been denied by the individuals named.
All instructions from a Home Secretary to police should be published. The College of Policing and the other public sector quangos should also publish but even better they should stop interfering.
Very good suggestion.
Yes, and all instructions from Two Tier to the UK judiciary about mandatory prison sentences for anyone who even posted a tweet or joined the British Patriots Protesting Against the Murder of Children should also be published.
Raja’s done an hour-long interview recently, hasn’t he? It’s doing the rounds and I’m not sure if this is the one you’re referring to, but I’m crap and never carve out the time to sit and watch interviews. But I like Raja and have a great deal of respect for a fellow ”infatuated pervert” like myself in speaking out about this massive organized crime and cover-up. He’s obviously got a big spotlight on him and a large following on Twitter, so he’s also going to be feeling the heat over the years from those that want to silence him. He’s a brave guy who’s pursuing this at great risk to himself, I think.
This is the one I was referring to, although there are others. Do make the time … the revelations are shocking but everyone needs to know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6egrJ5Vi0o4
Raja Miah is correct in what he says about a pact operating between Labour and muslim “community leaders.” And the block vote is guaranteed via the postal voting system with ‘soldiers’ of the Imams collecting the voting papers and taking them to mosques for completion.
I’ve been there. I’ve also worked with Raja.
This, presumably, is why Blair installed the postal voting system …. and there has been no attempt to stop the block-vote abuse.
Exactly. Blair modified the postal voting system specifically to enable Labour Councils to be able to buy the Indian subcontinent vote and that is precisely what they did. Oldham has quite a few dodgy land and property deals which the Council “facilitated” for their Pakistani friends. In return for votes of course.
At election time “soldiers” of the Imams doorknock their “flocks” to collect blank postal votes which are taken to the mosques for completion. That’s how it works.
Remember Galloway’s Rochdale by-election win in March 2024? He won with a 43% postal vote. The national average is 17%, itself utterly ridiculous I know but the comparison is stark. Oldham by the way is at 23%. I have attended every election in Oldham since 2019. My experience is first hand.
Unaccountable bureaucrats are the problem in every aspect of the current way the world is being run. And yet the agenda is of a greater reach for this ever expanding blob into the lives of ordinary people, while they turn a blind eye to horrific crimes.
Dark, sombre and disturbing subject. The response to The Pandemic That Never Was was a turning point for me, in sacrificing children’s needs, wellbeing and education on the false altar of Stay Home, Save LIves, Protect the NHS.
I despair of ‘ismists, ‘ologies and ‘isms that pander to real-world evil. What matters are the fundamental human decencies and things that work to improve the lot of humanity.
https://embookstuff.wordpress.com/2021/04/10/if-this-is-a-man-a-poem-by-primo-levi/
Britain has had a bigger Pakistani Muslim population for longer than most European countries so probably gang rapes did not start elsewhere as long ago as here.
However, they now have their new residents from societies that do not value women and girls, where community silence is expected as a form of loyalty and where households are dominated by cultures incompatible with western nations. Their problems likely already exist but likely also their politicians, police and social workers won’t want to address it.
The establishment knows full well the problems it is importing and given that Pakistani Gang Rapes appear to have a generational aspect the only conclusion is that said establishment is quite happy for this to continue. This unfortunately links very closely to the “population replacement” theory that some of us are wedded to but I see no other valid explanation. Certainly the simmering tensions which the Pakistani Rape Gangs topic is exacerbating cannot serve any long-term good so once more, is this intentional?
”…the decades-long practice of rape of early teenage and pre-teen girls in England.”
”..young girls were systematically abused and raped,..”
Blimey Dr Bell!
Didn’t you get the memo that you’re a ”fantasist” if you think ‘rape’ occurred, because these were all ”sexually mature women” involved in ”teenage prostitution” and all was ”consensual”? Didn’t anyone inform you that demonstrating concern in this shameful national scandal of epic proportions and speaking out against child sex abuse ironically singles YOU out to be an ”infatuated paedophile/pervert”?
Somebody else who’s clearly on the same page as Dr Bell ( and me ) in outing themselves as an ”infatuated covert paedophile/pervert” is Liam Halligan. Good stuff from him here on Question Time;
‘Why won’t Labour have a national inquiry? Is it because Keir Starmer was DPP during this period?’
‘I personally hope Elon Musk
keeps pushing for a national inquiry.’
‘This is one of the biggest scandals in British history’
https://x.com/addicted2newz/status/1880013980875518292
And just so that we can see what constitutes ”consensual sex” by ”teenage prostitutes” who were all ”sexually mature women”, according to some, here are some judges sentencing remarks for your reference, most of which is too graphic to cut and paste, frankly;
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/JCO/Documents/Judgments/sentencing-remarks-r-v-dogar-others.pdf
Thanks for the post Mogs.
YW. It is remiss of Dr Bell to only mention England as there’s evidence it’s happening in Wales too, though I’ve not looked at this in any depth so maybe this is your ‘home-grown’, as opposed to ‘imported’ rape gang dirtbags. Same outcome though. Vulnerable kids being preyed on and hurt;
”Swansea was one of the places an inquiry was held which found the below. Have a guess what’s been done about it.
An inquiry has found evidence of organised child sexual abuse and exploitation by criminal gangs and networks in Swansea, but accused police and other authorities of downplaying the scale of it over concerns about negative publicity.
Swansea was one of six case study areas looked at by the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) which found “extensive failures” in the way child sexual exploitation by criminal gangs was tackled.
It spoke to child victims in the case study areas, some of whom reported being raped, abused, and in one case, not in Swansea, forced to perform sex acts on a group of 23 men while held at gunpoint, and concluded that they were often blamed by authorities for the ordeals they suffered while some were even slapped with criminal records for offences closely linked to their sexual exploitation.”
https://x.com/VoWalesOfficial/status/1880235149373104158
And just in case you missed it, you need to check out this absolutely atrocious bint, who is the Speaker in the Senedd, and doesn’t like what Darren Millar has to say about the rape gangs. Too much truth, I think;
https://x.com/VoWalesOfficial/status/1879302349157798120
I have read some of the accounts of the torture these girls were put through and I was sickened by them. I can’t read any more.
As far as I’m concerned the creatures who did it should be executed and the “Public Servants” who allowed it to continue for decades should be locked up for the rest of their natural lives.
Yes 100%. And it literally is torture, so how anyone can dismiss or minimise these girls’ experiences and suffering and dress it up as anything other than what it is is beyond me. Nobody could read these firsthand accounts that the survivors have written or the details from the judges’ sentencing and pass this off as “teenage prostitution, consensual” etc, and deny the existence of child rape gangs. But apparently some people are that delusional and deny reality. Perhaps they think these court documents are a work of fiction by “fantasists”….
Just to add to your post: if they unfortunately can’t be executed then they should be castrated then definitely booted out the country along with their complicit families.
You’re right about CASTRATION for child rape gangs, and all child rapists. I think it’s the best punishment, because relaxing in a Holiday Camp Prison for a couple of years, boasting about your crimes to your fellow child rapists, then getting out to do it all again, is no punishment at all.
Even the most weedy wet liberal, hand-wringing social workers admit that paedophiles/child rapists cannot be “cured” or “rehabilitated”. So Castration seems fair to me.
Think of the “cultural enrichment” though.
Yes, you’re right— it should be Castration and then Immediate, Permanent Deportation, accompanied by their whole extended families, to insure their right to a “family life”, and their ancestral homeland’s “UK Foreign Aid” cut by a £million pounds for every one of them their homeland refuses to take back, and another £million for every one of them who tries to sneak back into the UK.
“The towns of England turned their faces from the abuse of the girls of others”
This is factually incorrect. Certainly in Oldham many people have been trying to bring the Pakistani Rape Gangs to the attention of the authorities for at least twenty years. The problem was not that we didn’t know this was going on the problem was that police, social services and in Oldham the Labour run council absolutely refused to listen let alone act. Ably supported latterly by Debbie Abrahams, Jim McMahon and the gob herself, Angela Rayner.
Whoops, I forgot Burnham. Another one doing everything possible to keep a lid on the issue.
Andrew Bridgen ex MP said he knew of children trafficked into private airfields in the UK. He passed details of the places, companies and people to the police and M15. Crickets.He said the cover up goes to the top with unknown numbers of politicians involved. Why do paedophiles get such light sentences? Why did Mandelson visit Epstein’s house after he was convicted ? Why did Gordon Brown tell police not to investigate the rape gangs ? Who knew about Edward Heath ? Why did Charles describe Savile as his best friend after his mentors Laurens van der Post and Mountbatten who were both paedophiles too? Look up the Rains list of pols named independently by victims.
Look at Huw Edwards …. he was found to be watching the most horrific level of child abuse images, and got let off with no jail time. The Establishment closes ranks to protect its own. And that’s what it’s doing this time.
Jesus also said “it were better for him to have a millstone hung around his neck and to be thrown into the sea than to cause one of these little ones to stumble.” Justice delayed is justice denied, but come it will eventually.
Reading the comments reminds me of Pedogeddon!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcU7FaEEzNU
Excellent analysis by Dr. David Bell. One of his most important points is that PEOPLE WHO WATCH child porn and horrific abuse videos are COMPLICIT in the rape, torture and murder of children. THEY ARE THE CONSUMERS in the “supply & demand” racket, which exists FOR THEM, and should be punished accordingly.
But it’s not fair to try the “White Guilt” card with this, because it was almost entirely Ethnic Europeans = White People who bravely tried to expose this. One Bangladeshi Muslim, Raja Maia, spoke out. He claims to have suffered from a lot of “death threats” and persecution, but Tommy Robinson’s the one who’s been thrown into prison again and again, his wife and children and their family home threatened by Pakistani Muslim Gangs and their Communist Enablers, not Raja Maia.
Where were the Pakistani Muslims loudly condemning the Pakistani Muslim Child Rape Gangs in their own community? Completely silent.
See how the photo of the gang members has been artificially lightened by the mainstream media, in order to make the Third World Ethnics look paler, and the few Ethnic Europeans darker.
They do the same to all the sports team photos, etc.
Honest question about the photos: Why are they all so ugly?
It is not just Pakistanis and the like, nor is it just a case of everyone else turning a blind eye or being complicit. Child sexual abuse has been actively pursued over decades by our royals, aristocracy, politicians, medical people, clerics, police, social services – where do I stop? The Mountbattens (I won’t go further into the royals), the Ted Heaths, the Jimmy Saviles of this world. It is active and being done by white British people (as well as others – I am only talking about the UK here). Why are we trying to pretend that active child sexual abuse is a racial thing and that the rest are simply complicit? I am afraid there is ample evidence that many, many have been involved in this despicable and evil practice. Please look at UK Column (ukcolumn.org) and do a simple search for ‘child abuse’ – you will come up with a great number of articles and videos to inform you that this is not just about Muslims. All races ACTIVELY sexually abuse children.
You are completely missing the point!!!
The point is that CHILD RAPE is RELIGIOUSLY SANCTIONED in almost all world religions EXCEPT CHRISTIANITY !!!
That includes Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Satanism.
That’s one reason why Hindus in India hated the early Protestant Christian missionaries: for rescuing children enslaved as CHILD TEMPLE PROSTITUTES in the Kali-Allah’s temples.
Child rape, incest and other horrific practices are RELIGIOUSLY SANCTIONED by the Koran and the Jewish Talmud upon which the Koran is based, and even the Tibetan Buddhists force poor parents to give one three-year-old child to the Buddhist temples, to be separated forever from their families, and raised by one monk or nun, who sleeps and eats with and “trains” the child to accept a lifetime of enslavement. Wealthier families just pay a fee to “redeem” their child, exactly like Jewish parents even to this day are required to present their firstborn babies on a silver platter as a symbolic sacrifice to the priestly Levite caste, who then give them permission to “redeem” the child for a few shekels.
That’s why so-called “Moderate Muslims”, which are a fallacy, don’t ever condemn their fellow Muslims for raping children, because it’s all part of their RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.
ONLY CHRISTIANITY condemns child rape, which is NOT “religiously sanctioned” by Christianity.
So just ditch the False Equivalency arguments, because they are IRRELEVANT.
You are probably right (I don’t know enough about other religions, but it wouldn’t surprise me), but I don’t think Dr Bell was making this point at all, was he? If he was, I didn’t get it – put it down to an ageing brain. However, Christianity hasn’t done too well in this regard, has it? For instance, I haven’t seen Christians protesting over child sexual abuse and many so-called Christians have been actively (or passively) involved in these horrible practices, eg the recent case over which the Archbishop of Canterbury had to resign.
You are correct that Dr. Bell did not make that point, which is why I did.
Of course all races commit terrible crimes like this, but the whole point is that these horrible practices are CONDEMNED and PUNISHED by Western Civilization and the Christian Morality upon which it is based.
These horrific practices are NOT ACCEPTABLE or RELIGIOUSLY SANCTIONED by Christians in any denomination of Christianity.
But they ARE accepted and religiously sanctioned by almost all other world religions.
But by not speaking out against these practices and the people involved, Christians are effectively condoning them. And many so-called Christians, as I said, have been actively involved in them (eg many priests down the years, but also others), as well as turning a blind eye or covering up. Just imagine, that John Smyth, instead of being exposed and brought to justice, was packed off to Zimbabwe (I think) where he continued to carry on with his depraved actions. Out of sight, out of mind. This is not a good witness to Christianity at all. But man is ‘desperately wicked’, as it says in the Bible, and I am afraid that that includes ‘Christians’. Hopefully truly believing Christians would, as you say, find it abhorrent. The Bible certainly finds such practices abhorrent, which is why the Israelites were told to ‘devote to destruction’ the peoples they drove out of Canaan in the OT – because they followed abhorrent practices such as child sacrifice.
BTW, I don’t really know why you are bringing this whole subject up anyway. It’s great that the Christian faith is against child abuse but our country is largely no longer Christian and white people abuse children across the board in this country. I was interested to see in today’s DS that Baroness Falkner says: ‘Yes, of course, if you look at sexual abuse in general, white British people will form the majority of abusers.’
What I find particularly offensive is that the metropolitan elite (“Conservative” and Labour) fawning over very middle class Greta Thunberg wittering nonsense about “stealing her childhood” while this was happening as she spoke.
Remember Operation Yew Tree?
It would appear that whilst the police went after some well known people for “historical” sex crimes, there were sex crimes being committed on an industrial scale right under their noses in real time, which they ignored.
I might cynically add that all those names investigated during Operation Yew Tree were not only very much in the public domain and fodder for the papers but were all of a certain ethnicity.