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The ‘Pingdemic’ Is Dead, Long Live the ‘Pingdemic’!

by Michael Curzon
16 August 2021 9:00 PM

The end of self-isolation rules for double jabbed Brits who are ‘pinged’ or contacted by NHS Test and Trace after coming into contact with someone who has tested positive for Covid is “dangerous” and “totally illogical” (but not illogical in the way that Toby pointed out earlier), says the Deputy General Secretary of the Rail Maritime and Transport Union. He is one of the sizable number of industry leaders who have called for staff to be supported if they choose to stay at home after being ‘pinged’, despite concerns over staff shortages caused by the ‘pingdemic‘ (which is said to have finished). The Telegraph has the story.

Railway workers and doctors have been backed to stay at home if they come into contact with a Covid case despite new rules allowing double jabbed people to return to their jobs.

Meanwhile, industry leaders called for further clarity on whether staff alerted by NHS Test and Trace could be compelled to come back to the workplace. …

Steve Hedley, the Deputy General Secretary of the Rail Maritime and Transport Union, criticised the change [to self-isolation rules] as “dangerous” and “totally illogical” and backed staff who refused to come back to the workplace.

“This is a dangerous approach by the Government because the evidence shows that the link between the virus and deaths has been weakened, but it hasn’t been broken,” Mr Hedley said.

He added: “Many workers will be concerned at spreading or catching Covid if people pinged by the app are allowed to come back to their jobs straight away. If they choose to stay at home, we would support them. No one should be forced to go back to work.

“The railway companies have assured us that it will still be voluntary for people to come back to work. It must stay that way.”

The British Medical Association added that healthcare workers who want to self-isolate “should not be penalised in any way for doing so”.

Meanwhile, business leaders welcomed the relaxed rules but called for clarity on whether staff could be compelled to return to work if they come into contact with a Covid case.

Kate Nicholls, the Chief Executive of U.K. Hospitality, said guidance should be “black and white” rather than leaving the choice up to individual employers.

“Employers want to know with more certainty what they should do in those circumstances,” she said. …

Ms Nicholls also called for a further relaxation of the rules to allow younger people who have not yet had both jabs to be spared from automatic self-isolation.

Worth reading in full.

Tags: NHS AppPingdemicSelf-IsolationTest and TraceVaccine

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vlysander
vlysander
3 years ago

Can anyone tell me why this madness is still going on? Yes we know there are agendas at play but surely people must realise what utter nonsense this all is by now?

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iane
iane
3 years ago
Reply to  vlysander

Ha ha! If you want to know when people, en masse, will realise it is all utter nonsense, well, you will be waiting for the proverbial cold day in Hell. #Homo Non Sapiens.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  vlysander

People are using covid to skive off work.

That has been one of the reasons why the mad government policies during the last 18 months have been tolerated.

It’s allowed a lot of people to work less or not work at all and continue to get paid.

It’s corruption on a national scale.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

The fact that the Unions are demanding the freedom to ‘self isolate’, a.k.a. skive proves your point perfectly.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  vlysander

We are being moved into tyranny via vaccines passports. History is repeating itself

There’s Going To Be Chaos In The US
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vlysander
vlysander
3 years ago

I tried explaining to friends again recently why I don’t accept the vaccines or any of the policies for this so called pandemic.

  1. They still think we are in a pandemic
  2. They dont look at any statistics at all just read the headlines
  3. When I explain the own government stats on any part of it they dont believe me, including vaccine reactions
  4. They still believe lockdowns were the right thing to do and so probably will think the same when another comes along

I’m looking for new friends…

Last edited 3 years ago by vlysander
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NonCompliant
NonCompliant
3 years ago
Reply to  vlysander

I’m looking for a new planet lol.

On a more serious note I read a piece recently explaining how facts were next to useless in bringing people out from the spell. It recommended engagement but more along the humour/sarcasm line of attack, Emporers New Clothes etc.

People will only be interested in facts once the spell begins to lose its grip which for some might never happen !

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artfelix
artfelix
3 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

I agree. It is currently mentally impossible for most people I talk to who support lockdown to comprehend facts. They will say stuff like “yes, I know masks don’t actually work but we need to wear them in case cases rise again.” It’s like the reasoning part of their brain has somehow been by-passed through re-wiring.

It’s why when the government says in the same breath that people who are vaccinated spread Covid just as much as unvaccinated but we need vax passes to stop the spread people just nod instead of saying “what the fuck nonsense is this you mad spunk trumpet?” like someone with a functioning cerebellum would.

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misslawbore
misslawbore
3 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

I agree that approach works better. I think the problem is that our education system no longer promotes critical thinking. I remember a speech my headmistress made to the whole school in which she reminded us all to question every assertion, every statement

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  misslawbore

Ha- she’d be fired and hounded out of town for that these days.

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jsampson1945
jsampson1945
3 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

Facts are not available, only claims and counter-claims.

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  vlysander

Same at my wife’s company. When she recently tried to point out that the dreaded lurg was far from the biggest killer, (at the time it was around 23rd I think), the women she was speaking to flatly refused to believe her- they were absolutely convinced that it was the worst thing ever and that everyone was at risk of certain death. They also refused to look at any data, saying that if it were true it would ‘be on the news’. These people clearly just wait for their daily dose of fear porn and then collectively re-enforce the ‘facts’. They are beyond hope or help.

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Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  annicx

Same as my mother. Won’t believe anything unless it’s on the BBC or C4 news. Claims not to have heard of the yellow card reporting system for vax side effects; even when I say it is the government’s own information, she still dismisses it and claims vax side effects are very rare. She is double jabbed and I have no doubt that she will be lining up for any boosters. Still clings to her face mask, and believes that if she gets one whiff of the Wuflu, it is instant death.

The government has done a good job of terrifying her, and no doubt millions like her.

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misslawbore
misslawbore
3 years ago
Reply to  vlysander

Mine are the same to a greater or lesser degree. One grandly told me as a consolation prize for my efforts that she would not agree that people should be forcibly jabbed. We are still friends. But I am somewhat shocked as she is an intelligent woman

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Hopeless
Hopeless
3 years ago

Nothing new, then. Just an amplification of the government approach, which is to shun leadership, logic, responsibility and the rest, with the added support of various vested interests.

Johnson, as usual, hides in the rears, emerging only to pontificate and piffle over the Afghanistan débâcle, for which he and his government are not exonerated by Biden’s weakness and senility

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless

Peking Piffle?

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Old Maid
Old Maid
3 years ago

If ever more proof were needed that people just want a paid 10 days off every so often …. note that these unions will still receive their subs money.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago

Yes, stay at home doing bugger all on full pay, why don’t you?

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Peter W
Peter W
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

What a miserable existence to think your job is so unimportant that to skip 10 days unimportant. Also selfish toward those that have to pick up your work. If you’re genuinely unwell then fair enough, otherwise you are just plain selfish.

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misslawbore
misslawbore
3 years ago
Reply to  Peter W

Their hardworking colleagues know who they are as do their bosses, they will not be promoted and first in line for redundancy also

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago

“The British Medical Association added that healthcare workers who want to self-isolate “should not be penalised in any way for doing so”.”

Of course not the bloody taxpayers can carry on paying them to sit on their arses ad infinitum.

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Spritof_GFawkes
Spritof_GFawkes
3 years ago

Having spent today doing payroll can I just point out that people who are self isolating are only entitled to SSP, not “full pay” as keeps getting mentioned in here. SSP is about £96 per week so not much of an incentive to have time off work IMO https://www.gov.uk/statutory-sick-pay/what-youll-get

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SweetBabyCheeses
SweetBabyCheeses
3 years ago
Reply to  Spritof_GFawkes

Depends where you work…I’m in the public sector and colleagues defo get full pay. They were even getting full pay when they had to go stay at home if their kids had been “pinged” through school. It is a massive scam to get time off.

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Spritof_GFawkes
Spritof_GFawkes
3 years ago
Reply to  SweetBabyCheeses

Ah well, fair enough. It’s a different world in the public sector 🙁

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago
Reply to  Spritof_GFawkes

Yep and it’s mainly them who have the app and keep getting tested to keep this farce going.

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Fearless
Fearless
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

I reckon that even if all the sheeple stopped getting tested tomorrow the juggernaut scammernaut would keep on rolling because those in power would simply make up any number they choose as nobody will/can challenge them.

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  Spritof_GFawkes

It certainly is- no fear of job losses or ever having to take responsibility for anything, no customers going bust, no worrying if this will drive your firm into bankruptcy, fat pensions paid for by someone else, fully paid sick leave, 12 months maternity on full pay plus a bonus last year for ‘working at home through a difficult time’ or whatever they classed it as. It amazed me last year, (God knows why it amazed me but hey ho), that every single time we tried to contact anyone in the public sector it was effectively impossible ‘because of Covid’. I must say this virus is very clever if it can cause such technical difficulties…

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misslawbore
misslawbore
3 years ago
Reply to  annicx

They will not be forgotten when they ask for pay rises in future years

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  Spritof_GFawkes

Indeed it is: working for a living is a mug’s game.

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago
Reply to  Spritof_GFawkes

If you’re in the private sector, the public sector workers get paid full pay.

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TreeHugger
TreeHugger
3 years ago
Reply to  Spritof_GFawkes

I also do payroll, it entirely depends on the employers policy. The government directly fund SSP element the employer makes up the difference (or not). Public sector all get full pay, as do most large corporate employees.

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Fraz-ahr
Fraz-ahr
3 years ago

This utter madness must be perpetuated at all costs. It’s all about confusion, disruption and a serious lack of clarity. The whole wretched shitshow must be foremost in everyone’s mind. Nero [and SAGE] fiddled while Rome burned, kinda deal !!

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debra
debra
3 years ago

And so a rubicon was quietly crossed and we now live under medical apartheid and in a country firmly divided.

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RTSC
RTSC
3 years ago

“I got pinged” is the excuse of choice for lazy, Public Sector jobsworths.

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BungleIsABogan
BungleIsABogan
3 years ago

Anybody now who is “pinged” should probably be regarded as somewhat stupid, for having the App, or is a Public Sector worker who wants some more freebies from the taxpayer.

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misslawbore
misslawbore
3 years ago
Reply to  BungleIsABogan

There are plenty of both variety

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago

Called it. The only people still using Spy-n-Snitch are public, third and salaried sector workers/”workers” who want to rack up an endless series of 10 day paid holidays.

Telling them that they don’t “have” to go on another Netflix binge once they’re double-experimented on isn’t a reward, it’s a punishment.

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PatrickF
PatrickF
3 years ago

Let’s worry about a pingdemic, rather than the horror that is unfolding in Afghanistan.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

Actually, yes. There’s nothing we can usefully do in Afghanistan. We meant well, arguably, tried, and failed. Which is not surprising given that we can’t even fix our own country.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I’m really not sure that anyone ‘meant well’ – it was the US lashing out as a result of the twin towers. The outcome was also highly predictable – no outside force has ever succeeded in changing things in Afghanistan – the USSR also tried, and failed.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago

The pingdemic isn’t dead, in the wider sense. Track and trace still exists. There are still legal requirements to self-isolate. There is still mass testing. Even when people are not legally obliged to self-isolate, in the case of a member of the household being positive, many do. People get forced/bullied into being tested for work, school, travel. The issue is the multi-billion pound futile, disruptive infrastructure and laws that have been built to deal with an unexceptional virus. I do wish the DS would look at things in more measured terms and not report in such a tabloid style.

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Zoomer@14
Zoomer@14
3 years ago

Distractions, distractions, distractions…when will people get that it was all made up…!

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago

We are being moved into tyranny via vaccines passports. History is repeating itself

There’s Going To Be Chaos In The US
https://rumble.com/vl9f04-theres-going-to-be-chaos-in-the-us.html

Stand in South Hill Park Bracknell every Sunday from 10am meet fellow anti lockdown freedom lovers, keep yourself sane, make new friends and have a laugh.

Join our Stand in the Park – Bracknell – Telegram Group
http://t.me/astandintheparkbracknell

Last edited 3 years ago by Lockdown Sceptic
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misslawbore
misslawbore
3 years ago

Another fudge

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Iain McCausland
Iain McCausland
3 years ago

Surely this government of Baboons knew that some unions would jump at the opportunity of money for nothing for their members?

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