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Neither Zero Covid nor Vaccinations will Allow us to Return to Normality: We Must Learn To Live With Covid

by Toby Young
29 July 2021 12:29 PM

We’re publishing on original essay today by Dr. Lee Jones, a reader in International Politics at Queen Mary. He argues that trying to suppress a virus that has an infection fatality rate of 0.05% for the under-70s is pointless and the sooner we learn to live with it, the better. Here is an extract.

Lockdowns and other societal restrictions were never recommended in pre-Covid pandemic planning by the World Health Organisation or national governments, because they were of unproven and dubious efficacy and came at tremendous cost. That most countries collapsed into some form of lockdown, throwing out their existing pandemic planning, thus indicates decisions taken in moments of panic, amid mounting, media-induced fear among the general public.

In most (though not all) countries, governments lacked the necessary authority to resist such pressure and hold to existing plans, which focused on delaying the spread of new diseases and mitigating their impact. Crucially, moreover, in many places, including Britain and Australia, the state was also very poorly prepared to do even this. Successive governments failed to invest in necessary capacities, outsourcing planning and preparedness to local authorities and private companies. Consequently, existing systems soon collapsed, adding to the sense of panic. As the U.K.’s Deputy Cabinet Secretary told the Prime Minister’s chief adviser on March 12th – the day that test-and-tracing was secretly abandoned because the U.K. could only handle five tests per week – “I’ve been told for years there’s a whole plan for this. There is no plan… I think we are absolutely fucked.”

Lockdown was thus the result of panic and state failure. It appealed to politicians because it gave the public what they seemed to be clamouring for, and bought time to organise a better response. The trouble is that justifying and securing compliance with such draconian measures entailed a colossal propaganda effort that has permanently skewed public perceptions of the virus, and inverted the proper relationship between state and citizen. As Laura Dodsworth chronicles in A State of Fear, the U.K. Government deliberately mobilised behavioural psychology to instil fear into the population to increase compliance with lockdown measures. The media has followed suit for its own purposes.

A conformist culture ensued in which dissenting voices – even among world-leading scientists – have been silenced, censored, or subjected to abuse. Sceptics are derided as “Covidiots”, “selfish morons” and people who want to “kill granny”. The proper relationship between citizen and state in a democracy has been turned on its head, with the Government telling the public what to do, rather than vice-versa, and demanding that people stay home to “protect the NHS”, when the NHS’s job is actually to protect us.

Worth reading in full.

Tags: VaccinesZero Covid

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A Heretic
A Heretic
3 years ago

Only 15 months late with the bleeding obvious.

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

Hear hear. Of course, in the headline it means ‘Covid-19’, not all the other ‘covids’ (normally referred to as ‘common colds’). They haven’t gone away, and probably never will.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

there is nothing to live with. Were it not for the massive publicity you would not know it existed. They establishment doesn’t want us to return to normal. They prefer this: The deaths the MSM wont report:

1000 COVID Stories Share Your Story https://1000covidstories.com/

Stand in South Hill Park Bracknell every Sunday from 10am meet fellow anti lockdown freedom lovers, keep yourself sane, make new friends and have a laugh.

Join our Stand in the Park – Bracknell – Telegram Group
http://t.me/astandintheparkbracknell

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Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
3 years ago

yes, and try and learn to live with the vaccinated

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago
Reply to  Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

Serenity now!

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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
3 years ago
Reply to  Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

It’s easier to fool someone than persuade them that they have been fooled. So the vaccinated will still be self righteous even when shown to be wrong.

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Matt Dalby
Matt Dalby
3 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

The vaccinated won’t be shown to be wrong as the plan seems to be to coerce everyone into having the jab so there’ll be no control group (or a very small one of people who can continue to hold out as our basic freedoms are slowly removed). I read today that the latest PHE report uses computer models to show that vaccines have saved 60,000 lives. Clearly the vaccinated will use this to say “told you so, now get the jab you selfish bastard”, without questioning the assumptions that went into the model or the fact that it’s possible to get models to show what you want them to show. With such a small unvaccinated control group and no researcher willing to risk their career studying us there will never be any real world data to challenge the computer models.

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lorrinet
lorrinet
3 years ago
Reply to  Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

But employ a measure of social distancing, at least for the first couple of weeks after they’ve been jabbed.

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RW
RW
3 years ago

Good read. Especially as there’s little “rousing language” apparently having escaped from a mishandled “creative writing” course in it. These hyper-emotive style exercises are a plague of their own.

A thought in reply: COVID has quite thorougly demolished Churchill’s “Democracy is the worst of all forms of government, we just haven’t found anyhting better” adage. If so-called democracy can collapse into the politics of the last oneandahalf years, fuelled by an endless sequence of polls proclaiming that “the people want this!”, it’s certainly no better than any other system of goverment.

Tyranny by popular demand is just tyranny.

Last edited 3 years ago by RW
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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago

Covid19 is pure agenda/deception, nothing to do with a virus, never has been, the virus narrative is simply the cover story for all the criminality being initiated in broad daylight in its name, right before our eyes, with all the usual suspects involved – UK, USA, Israel, Germany, 5 Eyes……and all their criminal front institutions like Oxford University, the BBC, the WHO, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation etc etc

The vaccine passports “being railroaded through” for injections which Dr McCullough characterises as an “horrendous bio weapon” which are only approved for emergency use when there is no emergency is a good example of this.

This is the evil Beast system which controls the world from behind the curtain. Expecting reason from these people is plain ignorant. It’s purely criminal and based on fraud, there is no justfication for ANYTHING they have done.

If you want to gain a deep understanding of the power structure that is doing this, I strongly recommened reading this book. It is a free pdf copy but please purchase it if you can afford to. This information is so important though – the main fuel for this fire is IGNORANCE. They can’t get away with this crap with an enlightened population – see Tunisia for inspiration. 100% must read information from a British intelligence and security expert, Christopher Story.

THE NEW UNDERWORLD ORDER Curse of Criminalism DARK ACTORS PLAYING GAMES – The Global Fantasies of the Geomasonic Illuminati

https://www.pdfdrive.com/the-new-underworld-order-curse-of-criminalism-dark-actors-playing-games-the-global-fantasies-of-the-geomasonic-illuminati-e157016574.html

Last edited 3 years ago by ComeTheRevolution
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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago

There are lots of parts of this I could dissemble. Overall its OK, but today it feels so ‘yesterday’. Martin’s evidence, the Pfizer/Albania contract, the evidence of ADE from at least the Pfizer ‘vaccine’, the evidence that they are definitely not vaccines. Information of just the last couple of weeks puts everything into perspective.
McCullough is correct, SARS2 is a bioweapon, the vaccines are poison. Governments have signed contracts with pharma that mean they will do absolutely anything to cover up the truth; and pharma will do anything to stop the likes of Ivermectin being authorised for use against covid.
And governments will use their new draconian powers to introduce biotech IDs which will ensure their draconian powers are retained into the future. And they will use these new powers to force disruptive ‘zero carbon’ policies at great expense on their populations.
How to start fighting back? Well I like the look of Denninger’s ‘New Mandate’.
https://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=243053

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thinkcriticall
thinkcriticall
3 years ago

They’re panicing. Signs of ADE.
https://tv.gab.com/channel/trump_won_2020_twice/view/the-vaccine-causes-the-virus-to-6102470ecc892ece58987e1d

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

I’ve looked a bit askance at Steve Bannon in the past and I don’t agree with the economic nationalism that he pushes (although I respect the motive), but I must admit he has blown the media up with his Warroom shows. Not only is the audience massive, but it must be the most active audience on the planet. They are having a massive impact on the political scene.

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LMS2
LMS2
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

Bannon’s economic nationalism beats selling out the economy to the lowest bidder, and the Chinese, shipping all your manufacturing overseas and destroying your own economy.

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago
Reply to  LMS2

Economic nationalism destroys an economy. You need to separate the goal from the method.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

It’s more anti-globalism than economic nationalism!

Income taxes, sales taxes and corporation taxes are INTERNAL TARIFFS. When they are higher than EXTERNAL TARIFFS then all that will be exported is jobs, and importers will gain at the expense of workers, especially in a economy piling on debt.

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago

This interview with Tom Renz https://www.bitchute.com/video/QcTf6S46msuR/ – a US attorney who is involved with a lot of legal challenges to the criminal Corona agenda – has a very important section (12 mins in) about antibody dependent enhancement. What he is saying really made me pause for thought. It’s near enough certain that ADE will be an issue – how muh of an issue remains to be seen – but it’s likely that it will lead to vaccinated people experiencing worsened respiratory disease when exposed to either SARS COV 2 or any related virus (as Sucharit Bhakdi has confirmed) and we may potentially see a LOT of deaths as a result. That much most of us know about. I have always believed that when it does become an issue, the criminals in power will blame the ADE on a new variant. I believed this would be their cover story and that it was connected to a depopulation agenda. However Tom Renz has added another layer to this which I think we all need to give deep consideration to. He is saying that when the ADE emerges, the criminals are going to blame it on a new variant – AND THIS IS DUE TO THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN TO NOT BE VACCINATED.

Think about this. They have already bluffed and lied their way to the stage we’re at now with essentially nothing more than at worst a bad but by no means unprecedented flu season. There is clearly an agenda and the people doing this are evil. Some of the cards are already on the table – cashless, biosecurity, great reset etc etc. They have already started mandating vaccines when there is zero justification for doing so, they have already got their stooge celebs calling out the unvaccinated as if they are some scourge on society (when the opposite is true) and they have already set up laws which allow them to detain people merely on the suspicion that they have coronavirus – and you don’t need to have any symptoms hence the asymptomatic agenda.

So let’s take this one step further. Let’s say that there is a major issue with ADE this winter (Robert Malone has said we will know by December so that is a good marker) and that a lot of people really do start getting ill ie the ADE kicks in and there is a lot of death. Think of how much leverage that will give them to become turbo charged Nazis in their approach. People are psychologically primed to respond to this in a massive way. Suddenly all the nightmares about a new super virulent virus are visible – people really are dying in big numbers, whereas up until now they have not been. They have done all of this so far using pure bluff and the power of assertion and control of the media, without anything actually happening in a medical sense that could justify what their actions. They have also managed to keep the public ignorant to the truth. Well imagine what will happen if there really is a lot of death. And imagine how powerful it will be if they blame it all on the unvaccinated.The fact it is nothing to do with the unvaccinated does not matter one jot – these people are liars and this is all based on deception.

Once I discovered ADE and the history of coronavirus vaccine failures and mRNA treatment/vaccine failures it seemed to me that the whole point of the jab rollout was to create the ADE.

Tom says that they will try to hide the fact that it is the vaxxd who are dying but I disagree because it will be impossible to cover that up if it is happening in numbers. I think the message will be that the unvaxxd are breeding new deadly variants so they must be vaxxd as well. And who knows what special concoction the unvaxxd will be getting. Tom also says he has insider doctors in Missourri who say the ICUs already have examples of ADE in them but the security around this is super tight.

This will give them the power to impose hardcore lockdowns, fully enforced by the military and police. They are already doing the warmups for this in Canada to perfect their methods. Then we could literally be looking at forcing unvaccinated into covid camps to be vaccinated – and the vaccinated will potentially be given something even nastier than what the vaxxd are getting, because the unvaccinated are the enlightened people who see throught the lies and are a thorn in the side to these criminals.

This is really scary but it is a potential scenario. Given everything we know about these people and the depths of their evil system (genocide, illegal unjusitified wars, false flag terrorism, control of the illicit drugs market which is the source of a lot of their blackops funding, the corona fraud, poisoning the food supply with glyphosate, GMOs, the fake climate agenda, gene based injection experimentation on perfectly healthy people, 5G and weaponised microwave frequencies being used for wireless etc) it is totally within range that they would do this. Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union really did happen and it’s the same movement/cabal doing covid as made Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union a reality.

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

Tom says we have until Autumn to get the word out about ADE. I would suggest that unless people want to be sitting in some kind of covid facility within 6 months, it is in all of our interests to do something very big and very loud to make sure that EVERYONE knows what ADE is, how it works, why it is likely to become a reality and why the cause of it will be the vaccines, not the unvaccinated.

Here are some documents:

Informed consent disclosure to vaccine trial subjects of risk of COVID-19 vaccines worsening clinical disease
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/ijcp.13795

18 Reasons I Won’t Be Getting a Covid Vaccine #3: THE UGLY HISTORY OF ATTEMPTS TO MAKE CORONAVIRUS VACCINES
https://www.deconstructingconventional.com/post/18-reason-i-won-t-be-getting-a-covid-vaccine

COVAX through the Looking Glass part 4
https://bakerstreetrising.home.blog/2021/02/15/covax-through-the-looking-glass-part-4/

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

The doctor who invented the mRNA technique (Robert Malone) has recently raised the same fear, based on some preliminary data he has seen. He says that ADE is a common consequence of attempts at vaccines for coronavirus, but the data he has seen is possible evidence of the worst possible version of this outcome; the sort of thing that keeps virologists up at night.

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

Any links for that? It is frightening. I think causing ADE has always been the agenda. Blaming it on the unvaxxd would be a very sinister twist. I hope this analysis is wrong but there is real potential that this is the plan. Either way, I think it is in all of our interests to do some very strong ADE specific campaigns to ensure people know what is going on, making it much harder for the criminals to deceive people as it becomes more of an issue.

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

@Thinkcritical posted the link to one of his interviews:

https://tv.gab.com/channel/trump_won_2020_twice/view/the-vaccine-causes-the-virus-to-6102470ecc892ece58987e1d

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HN17
HN17
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

I’ve been saying this for awhile now. They are going to do exactly that.
The masses will never own up to being a fool either, so they will as the extreme majority believe the government and hunt us down and project their stupidity onto us.

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago

Although Bret Weinstein has put forward the idea that use of prophylactics such as Ivermectin could actually eliminate the virus from a population. The problem is now that vaccines are being rolled out in the middle of a pandemic, which only breeds resistant variants, in the same way that over-use of antibiotics breeds resistant strains of bacteria.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago

Not particularly ‘Worth Reading in Full’, starting with this :

“ The British Government’s decision to procure vast quantities of vaccine – 400m doses – and to insist on domestic production and watertight supply agreements is the sole bright spot of its otherwise disastrous response to the pandemic.”

A jabber of the first rank, who has swallowed a key myth of massive proportions.

The overall thrust of the article is to put the shit-show down to incompetence and ‘lack of preparedness’.

This ignores the key fact that what wasn’t prepared for was an event of no great significance in light of umpteen more recent historical instances that had been coped with without any extraordinary measures. ‘Coped with’ in the sense that nobody blinked in the vast majority of years in the last quarter century.

That is the foundation myth of the Great Shit-Show – that something ‘unprecedented’ happened in 2020. Perpetuating this myth shows no great insight.

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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
3 years ago

Fancy allowing mother nature to do her work and letting our immune systems do its job, like what’s she and our immune system have been doing for many millions if not billions of years. (Viruses were about long before we were monkeys in trees, in fact long before we were fish in the seas and our immune systems dealt with them then).

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

No monkey mem, no rat bats, full blooded native Tasmanians were fully human (before a Darwinist genocide eradicated them)

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PatrickF
PatrickF
3 years ago

It’s not about health. Forget cases, deaths and vaccinations. They’re smoke and mirrors.

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dante
dante
3 years ago

Did I read that right, lockdowns, masks for the next 5 winters!?

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  dante

I doubt I have five Winter’s left.

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  dante

Only 5? Good to see optimism alive and well…

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Phil Shannon
Phil Shannon
3 years ago

Well, the doom-laden disaster that is Zero Covid continues apace here in the Land of Oz. Three states economically inert because of lockdown, including New South Wales whose two week hard lockdown has turned into nine weeks (at least) with the (Liberal!) state government and the (‘Labor’!) ‘Opposition’ also agreeing to abandon parliament (and democratic accountability and debate, in the process) to stay at home and watch the masked follies of the Olympics. Lockdown working a real treat then in pursuit of Zero Covid.
 
Meanwhile on the ‘vaccine’ front, the supposed escape hatch from lockdown according to the government, with only 18% fully ‘vaccinated’, the pressure for compulsory jabs via a vaccine passport is ramping up – the (‘Liberal’!) Prime Minister, Scott Morrison, has just told a radio jock that we have to make the jab “as mandatory as possible” and that this will be done by placing “more restrictions on people who are unvaccinated because they’re a danger to themselves and others”.
 
Well,I can think of a few, quite unpleasant, restrictions I would like to place on the sinister pollies whose Zero Covid fanaticism and lockdown fetish is a genuine economic, social, educational and psychological danger to 25 million ordinary, working Australians.

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Jules
Jules
3 years ago

We know, we know, we know. But shouting the obvious, even from the rooftops, isn’t going to change anything. Dr. Lee has been superb throughout this charade, as have HART. The fact that them, the British Medical Alliance, Doctors 4 Ethics, Covid Assembly and many others haven’t been successful in influencing or changing policy is evidence that the key players are very powerful and we should all be very concerned.

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chaos
chaos
3 years ago

this article was written by Toby Bung in 2020.. or maybe 2021.. or several times between those dates…

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago

They establishment doesn’t want us to return to normal. They prefer this: The deaths the MSM wont report:

1000 COVID Stories Share Your Story https://1000covidstories.com/

Stand in South Hill Park Bracknell every Sunday from 10am meet fellow anti lockdown freedom lovers, keep yourself sane, make new friends and have a laugh.

Join our Stand in the Park – Bracknell – Telegram Group
http://t.me/astandintheparkbracknell

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AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
3 years ago

Well, that certainly put a spring in my step this morning and cheered me up no end…

For the record, can we now please stop talking about Zero Covid, vaccinations and all the other nonsense? This is actually a coup against democracy – if indeed we ever really had it – and our freedoms. The virus etc was only ever meant as the mechanism to introduce all these controls. Sounds a bit conspiracy theorising? Well, the fact that nothing will make any difference to regaining our freedoms should be ringing the alarm bells from Tooting to Timbuktu. The half-arsed chaotic rally I went to last Saturday in Trafalgar Square did nothing to make me think that humans were getting off their knees, to paraphrase David Icke (who I wish would not become some sort of figurehead for this movement). What do you have to do in this day and age to make yourself heard and be taken seriously when all the media are in lockstep with each other and censorship is rampant? The masses that we would need to convince are all in fear for their lives and have meekly complied. We are in effect being surrounded and picked off, figuratively speaking, one by one by the COVID marksmen. It’s a sort of last stand moment. Most of us here don’t want an experimental jab but we’re being kettled by the authorities, outmanoeuvred and so on. No job, no shopping, no healthcare, no this that and the other. The list of things you can’t have or enjoy will get longer and yet the vaccinated will continue NOT to have their freedoms back either. They will be told some lie or other and go on believing the bullshit. This is all very subtle and slow so that we don’t notice it and get used to a certain level of restrictions before another tier is added and then another. If we accept this, we are finished. I keep saying we have to organise and network amongst ourselves because the last thing you want to be is be isolated. Anyway, no science in my diatribe today but I can’t see the point any longer. It’s clear, if this article is to be taken at face value, that science and data, stats etc make not one iota of difference and we are sort of wasting our precious time and energy on the details. We are in effect being played. Sorry for this pessimistic post, I’ll probably be optimistic tomorrow.

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