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GP Phone Consultations Being Recorded as Face-To-Face Meetings

by Michael Curzon
12 October 2021 5:38 PM

Official figures suggest that 10 million NHS GP appointments still aren’t taking place face-to-face each month, but the actual number could be higher still, with phone consultations being recorded as proper meetings. The Telegraph has the story.

In recent weeks, ministers, including the Prime Minister, have intervened to promise patients access to face-to-face appointments, amid mounting concern about the difficulties some are facing.

Before the pandemic, about 80% of consultations took place in a doctor’s surgery. However, the latest monthly figure is just 58%, with little change since officials vowed in May to give all patients the right to a “face-to-face” appointment.

Now, the Telegraph can reveal that even this figure exaggerates the number of consultations which are actually taking place in person.

NHS officials said that because of the way some local systems were set up, some appointments were automatically being logged as face-to-face slots, regardless of how they were actually delivered.  

Anne Bedish, a Telegraph reader, viewed her own patient record online, and was surprised to see that all the telephone appointments she had in the past year had been recorded as “face-to-face” consultations.

The 68 year-old, who suffers from a number of health problems and was on the Government’s clinically vulnerable list, had 12 phone appointments in the past year, which she found had been classed as “face-to-face” visits.

When she contacted Glenlyn Medical Practice, in East Molesey, Surrey, to question the miscategorisation, they confirmed that the appointments had been by telephone, but the record went unchanged.

NHS Digital, which publishes national data on GP appointments every month, suggested this pattern could occur far more widely, because of the way data has been recorded.

Officials said: “We do acknowledge that there may be data quality issues with the data and instances where the data may not be a true representation of what may be happening in all practices. …

Officials said this was most likely to happen if appointments had been set up in advance as a “block booking of appointments” and was most likely to affect cases early on in the pandemic.

However, neither of these were the case for Mrs Bedish, whose most recent appointments occurred less than a month ago.

Worth reading in full.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago

The saintly NHS barefacedly lying? Surely not!?

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iane
iane
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

‘barefacedly’? : hardly, it would be with a mask on!

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago

I’m sure this will be “very rare” (just like vaccine side-effects!)

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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
3 years ago

Is there anything truthful about this government and the institutions in this country? Lie upon lie upon lie…

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thinkcriticall
thinkcriticall
3 years ago

A brilliant letter / article:

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/we-both-know-this-has-never-been-about-saving-lives-boris/

“On March 19, 2020, Public Health England (PHE) quietly downgraded Covid-19 from a High Consequence Infectious Disease (HCID) four days before locking the entire country down (in contradiction to every pandemic preparedness strategy), wrecking the economy and psychologically damaging millions of people.

It didn’t make any sense why you would downgrade the disease just before using it as the excuse for taking such unprecedented action. So I dug a little deeper to try to find the reason for such an apparently counter-intuitive decision.

On the government website page where PHE declares the downgrade, I noticed links to various pdfs of how HCIDs must be managed. I realised that the downgrade was likely procedural, probably in order to avoid an obligation or a responsibility.

And when I looked through the contents page of the main article, catchily titled Management of Hazard Group 4 viral haemorrhagic fevers and similar human infectious diseases of high consequence, my eyes were immediately drawn to ‘Section 6 – Public Health actions’, and there was your angle, in all its glory.

‘10. It is a public health responsibility; to consider antiviral prophylaxis, and arrange as necessary.’

The very drugs that you and other great leaders of the ‘free’ world have sought to suppress and deride, in order that an experimental ‘vaccine’ could ‘legally’ be granted emergency use authorisation, must be considered as a preventive treatment.

In short, if you hadn’t downgraded Covid-19 from a HCID, you would have been forced to make available cheap, safe and effective treatments for Covid-19, and therefore the granting of an emergency use authorisation for your clot shots would have been illegal.”

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

Ah yes, “[the government] would have been forced to make available” therapies that don’t exist, because an article on a web site said so. That’s exactly how the law/reality works. You cracked the case, Sherlock.

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

They did exist, of course. As Dr Urso says, the contrary view was a lie from the beginning.

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Mike Yeadon
Mike Yeadon
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Another non scientist or someone unable to conduct simple searches & to interpret findings. Sad.

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Jane G
Jane G
3 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

It’s a nice fit, but wouldn’t it have required foreknowledge of the usefulness of e.g IVM and suchlike? Is there anything to suggest that there was an awareness of the existence of currently-available compounds that might have made vaccines less attractive? AFAIK, it wasn’t until Pierre Kory spoke out (where was it? Congress? The Senate?) that we noticed the suppression agenda.

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

Who says investing in political parties isn’t profitable!

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago

Bloody hell. More and more is coming out:

https://youtu.be/UevFPD6AtgY

You know that feeling when you are simultaneously astonished and not astonished?

Thank God for Project Veritas and others. I’m on their subscriber/e-mail list, and apparently this is the tip of the iceberg.

I have a strong sense that we will see justice in our lifetime, my friends.

Last edited 3 years ago by Moderate Radical
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PartyTime
PartyTime
3 years ago
Reply to  Moderate Radical

I find some of these undercover videos a bit mean. He runs a pharma contract research organisation and he gave some rather unspecific opinions the public airing of which will do him far more damage than it will do to Pfizer. Why go after somebody like him?

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago
Reply to  PartyTime

Perhaps you’re right, my friend. Personally, I think he’s a compliant sheep (by hs own admission) who chose to open his Norf and spew his feelings to a relative stranger.

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bOrgkilLaH1of7
bOrgkilLaH1of7
3 years ago
Reply to  Moderate Radical

Its notable that the Pfizer honeypot sting victim…. suggested it was the college educated classes being herded toward jabbings coercively… its everybody being herded toward the clot shots in fact.

However its been known for a long time, since the DCDC global strategic trends programme report back in 2007 that the middle-classes would be problematic…

From page 80:

The Middle Class Proletariat – The middle classes could become a revolutionary class, taking the role envisaged for the proletariat by Marx. The globalization of labour markets and reducing levels of national welfare provision and employment could reduce peoples’ attachment to particular states. The growing gap between themselves and a small number of highly visible super-rich individuals might fuel disillusion with meritocracy, while the growing urban under-classes are likely to pose an increasing threat to social order and stability, as the burden of acquired debt and the failure of pension provision begins to bite. Faced by these twin challenges, the world’s middle-classes might unite, using access to knowledge, resources and skills to shape transnational processes in their own class interest.

So if you only need a few serfs, and there is a large group of well-educated disgruntled people… who would you target for a leaner, cleaner… brighter world if you were in the billionaire class…and you knew the resources were getting tight?

For let’s say a chance to repair Gaia to a more primal Garden of Eden state….

Thank god its just sci-fi eh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpMTz1pICGE

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thinkcriticall
thinkcriticall
3 years ago

“Guess which Fortune 50 company won’t make employees get vaccinated?

Hint: It’s arguably the most science-driven of all.

Intel.

Not only that, vaccinated employees cannot say they do not want to work with unvaccinated employees. (Policy 8.4)

Not only that, Intel FORBIDS managers from asking for vaccination status. (Policy 8.13)

Not only that, Intel ACCEPTS antibodies as a full substitute for vaccination for people who must quarantine after a Covid exposure or for travel requirements. (Policy 1.2)

True story.” – Alex Berenson

Source: https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/central-libraries/us/en/documents/coronavirus-communication.pdf

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

“If local requirements are different, workers must comply with these government requirements.” Intel does not need to require anything from its employees because the government already does.

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helenf
helenf
3 years ago

I was invited to do some “face-to-face” university teaching recently. When I discovered that it was actually going to be to all-masked students, I declined. That is not face-to-face, not in my book. But these days, everything is being inverted.

Last edited 3 years ago by helenf
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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  helenf

Face-to-muzzle!

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  helenf

An acquaintance who is a university lecturer (70 years old) told me recently how he had to stop in the middle of his lecture and remove the mask for a while because he caught himself out of breath. I suppose that if he suffers a heart attack during lecture while suffocating himself, the university will cover the funeral cost.

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

He was exempt under the regulations. He needs to look them up.

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

I suppose maybe he doesn’t want to appear old and weak and give a “bad example” to the muzzled students in front of him. But his body will remind him about consequences of acting stupid, that’s for sure.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago

Well, the NHS worshippers got Bob Moran:

“On Friday, I was given three months notice by The Telegraph. I think the notice period is only to try to protect themselves from public backlash. Obviously, it’s a massive blow and worrying for my family. But hopefully this is an opportunity to explore new things and work in less constrained environment. I won’t stop fighting this nonsense. You can be sure of that.”

https://t.me/bobmoran

One of the good guys, and hopefully he’ll bounce back.

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Sorry you have been got by them, Bob.
The Torygraph has been a set of bastards for a very long time.

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Astonishing yet unsurprising. The once great Telegraph is a shadow of its former self. It has been for a long time. Incredibly, there is no proper right wing/conservative outfit in the mainstream media. Even traditional/socially conservative leftists I know acknowledge and lament this fact.

We have truly fallen as a nation.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago

The National Hell Service serves the Father of Lies. Heart and Soul – if anybody associated with it has a soul.

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
3 years ago

I rather feel that all this plays to the end of the idea of expensive local GPs and health centres. Why are they needed if all health matters are dealt with via the internet?
All you need are a few health call centres and all those expensive local health centres can be scrapped.
I think the Government are keen to see;

  1. The abolition of local health care, to be replaced with on-line medical call centres that you have to work your way through before you are allowed near a hospital.
  2. The demise of all the friendly old care homes to be replaced with multi storey, mega occupancy, zero carbon soulless care homes.
  3. The establishment of zero carbon, mega, regional crematoria to deal with those who give up on the dismal & appalling life the Government has in store for us.

It makes you wonder why we got so excited about the fall of the Berlin Wall, life in East Germany under the Stasi starts to look quite attractive.

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disgruntled246
disgruntled246
3 years ago

They are literally lying. How the hell are they being allowed to get away with this?

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wantok87
wantok87
3 years ago

It is not possible to examine an orthopaedic problem by screen. I have seen two individuals sent for X-ray of wrong joint (knee not hip) because of referred pain. It is worrying that some GP’s do not recognise this – sadly even the daily Telegraph appears to ascribe to the GP as knowledge base which is difficult to understand; their in house GP Michael Fitzpatrick ,criticises the JVIC because he thinks vaccination is valid for 12-15 year old he flies in the face of data.
We do not need to recruit more GPs but question their role.

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