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Double Jabbed Just as Likely to Spread Delta Variant as the Unvaccinated, According to New Study

by Michael Curzon
19 August 2021 9:49 AM

A new study by researchers at Oxford University rubbishes plans to introduce vaccine passports as it shows that Covid vaccines do not significantly reduce transmission of the Delta variant. For the same reason, the researchers suggest that herd immunity is “unachievable”. MailOnline has the story.

Although fully vaccinated people are significantly less likely to be infected, those who do get Covid have a similar peak viral load as the unvaccinated.

This means infected people ‘shed’ the same amount of virus when they cough or sneeze, regardless of whether or not they have been jabbed.

Experts said the findings strengthened the argument for a ‘booster’ Covid jab programme this autumn.

However, the study stressed that two doses remain remarkably effective at preventing death and hospitalisation.  

And even though the viral load may peak at similar levels in the vaccinated and unvaccinated, scientists say it’s possible jabbed people clear the infection quicker.

The study, based on data from 700,000 Britons, is the largest yet to evaluate vaccine effectiveness against the Delta variant, which has been dominant in the U.K. since May. 

Researchers concluded two doses reduce the chance of getting the Covid by about 82% for Pfizer and 67% for AstraZeneca.

It follows similar findings by Public Health England and the U.S. Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), which earlier this month released figures showing unvaccinated and double-jabbed have very similar viral loads. …

The researchers compared results from December 2020 to May 2021, when the Alpha variant was dominant, with those from May to August 2021, after the Indian [Delta] variant drove a summer wave.

The Delta variant has blunted the efficacy of vaccines as fully vaccinated people who do get Covid now have a similar peak ‘viral load’ as the unvaccinated.

This means they are just as likely to spread the virus onwards, and to develop mild symptoms such as a cough or temperature.

In contrast, vaccinated people who were infected with the Alpha variant had a much lower viral load and rarely got symptoms.

Worth reading in full.

Tags: Delta variantVaccineVaccine PassportsVariants

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Unutterably Pistoff
Unutterably Pistoff
2 years ago

Seeing “Being the first to comment in front of me”, I want to say: thank Christ for you. Thanks Toby, et al. I’d have gone mad over the past 3 years without this site,

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IRC
IRC
2 years ago
Reply to  Unutterably Pistoff

I totally agree this site has been a sanity saviour for the last 3 years, especially the btl comments. Although, I do feel I’m now being driven slightly mad by the constant “definitely only cock up” line…

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AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
2 years ago
Reply to  Unutterably Pistoff

Wonderful name!

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
2 years ago

“Women’s rights have gone ‘too far’, say majority of Gen Z and millennials, study shows“. Is the biggest cult of modern times starting to lose popularity? For the sake of all men, women and children, let’s hope so. What’s shameful is that we’ve left it to the kids to clean up decades worth of this self-perpetuating divisive, hateful, narcissistic cr*p. We’ve sat and watched while an aggressive cult has set alight to the very fabric of society, while they patted themselves on the back for their brilliance in arson (aka sisterhood/victimhood). Shame on us. All of us. Every single one of us.

A plea to women that identify as feminists: let’s work together to bring back a society that our kids can enjoy. That means recognising that men and women are different. Neither better nor worse. Both with problems that need to be addressed, but perhaps never will. Different, but equal. Both recognising that life isn’t perfect and can be a bit sh*t. I’m aware that young lads are now aware of the war that’s been raged against them, and it feels to me we’re on a cliff edge. How about working together to break the cycle? To bring back the notion that women and men are different, but any difference is ok. Ladies: you have, as you always have had, the ultimate power. Please choose carefully.

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AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
2 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

And let’s remember that there are only two sexes – man and woman. If people want to identify as other sexes then let them, live and let live as I say, but let’s not give them the political airspace to start imposing their views on others. That really is a cult and a dangerous one at that. This nonsense has gone on too long. There are now transwomen/men etc, whatever they are, saying that ‘they’ are the real women and slimy politicians like that punctuation mark Starmer and others, left, right and centre (doesn’t matter where they come from, they’re all idiots) who are fanning the flames by being unable to say what a woman is! This is ridiculous. And behind it all lies Soros, a truly evil person if ever there was.

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ebygum
ebygum
2 years ago
Reply to  AethelredTheReadier

…..I think that most of us think the same…kind of live and let live…but I do think there is more than enough evidence that there is a real agenda, and that what is happening just doesn’t seem to have naturally evolved, nor is it being allowed to naturally evolve….

As we get ever closer to being made to accept paedophilia and other, what I would call, extreme sexual preferences, as ‘the norm’…I’m mindful that it’s being pushed by someone or a group of someone’s…?

https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/20/rich-white-men-institutionalizing-transgender-ideology/

I’d also point out this is the first time my predictive text didn’t come up with a word (paedophile) whichever way I spelled it? Agenda?

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Monro
Monro
2 years ago

‘The former CDC director just said that YOUR tax dollars funded the creation of COVID and his colleagues lied about it to cover their own asses. Where the hell is the media?’

The truth of the matter? The supine public voted for socialist fascism and that is what they got.

‘“I think people’s sense of what is possible in terms of control changed quite dramatically between January and March,” Professor Ferguson says. When SAGE observed the “innovative intervention” out of China, of locking entire communities down and not permitting them to leave their homes, they initially presumed it would not be an available option in a liberal Western democracy:

It’s a communist one party state, we said. We couldn’t get away with it in Europe, we thought… and then Italy did it. And we realised we could. 

“These days, lockdown feels inevitable. It was, he reminds me, anything but. “If China had not done it,” he says, “the year would have been very different.’

To those people who, still now, object to lockdowns on civil liberties principles, this will be a chilling reminder of the centrality of the authoritarian Chinese model in influencing global policy in this historic year.’

Unherd Ferguson interview

Democracy: the least worst system of government.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
2 years ago

It’s from a few months back but everything stated holds true. Great article rounding up the evidence that the virus bioweapon was intentionally released;

”There is a bizarre synchronization between various world governments in terms of what they’ve done to mandate masking, lockdowns, social media censorship, crackdowns on protests, financial deplatforming/blacklisting, and tracking of people’s movements and behavior. Numerous public and private entities have made COVID-19 vaccines a requirement for continued employment. Governments and media outlets have engaged in relentless coercion and propaganda. Generally, these measures appear to be aimed at establishing tyranny by way of biosecurity/biosurveillance, expanding the power and influence of “stakeholder capitalism” and private-public partnerships, destroying small businesses and transferring their market share to oligopolistic corporations, buying up various assets (farmland, etc.) at fire sale prices to later engage in rentierism, collapsing currencies to replace them with programmable CBDCs, expansion of the surveillance state and Smart Cities, and culling “excess” population. This is aided and abetted by complicit government officials engaging in widespread and alarming malfeasance.
The notion that a virus leaked from a lab, and then, massive political macrostructures clicked into place all over the globe to suppress people’s fundamental freedoms, overnight, is an absurdity. Every part of this required years of deliberate planning and malice aforethought.”

https://iceni.substack.com/p/it-wasnt-a-lab-leak-it-was-intentional

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
2 years ago

“From Sweden and the WhatsApp leaks, it’s clear what needs to be changed.”

Not sure about Sweden – think it was partly luck that they had an honest scientist they listened to. In the UK we had Whitty and Vallance and I never quite knew whose hand was up whose arse between them and the politicians, and they are of course quite political themselves. I think it was quite rightly a political decision, which should have been made after taking advice and evaluating evidence from a variety of sources, because it’s the politician’s job to balance harms and benefits, whereas the scientists can be a bit mono focused. We just had the wrong politicians who for reasons we may never understand, ,suddenly changed their minds, along with the rest of the rich world.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
2 years ago

There’s a big-ass farmers protest this Saturday at The Hague, unfortunately the climate loons will also be there, hence the mayor is threatening to bring in the military. I think the climate nutters might end up scuppering this for the farmers.. 🙁

”Farmers’ organization Farmers Defense Force (FDF) hopes to attract 100,000 people for a demonstration in the Zuiderpark in The Hague next Saturday. Climate activists from Extinction Rebellion also plan to block the A12 motorway near The Hague again that day.”

https://nltimes.nl/2023/03/06/hague-mayor-threatens-use-military-gear-keep-rival-climate-farmer-protests-check

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Dinger64
Dinger64
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Don’t forget, the farmers have nothing to lose and everything to fight for! Moral wins wars not morals!

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Mogwai
Mogwai
2 years ago
Reply to  Dinger64

Is it wrong to have fantasies of climate nut jobs glueing themselves to the motorway then tractors 🚜 running over them?😈🤣

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Not at all Mogs. If there is confusion and a melee the tractor drivers might mistake glued protesters for the detritus of a riot especially as they might have difficulties seeing from those elevated cabs.
😉 😉 😉

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Mogwai
Mogwai
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Latest from today. Only 2 tractors allowed in the park?? And the threat of military/police intervention if the farmers break the rules. At least over here the police do remove the climate loons when they block roads, unlike the clowns that call themselves British police officers. Guess we’ll see how it all pans out..

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2023/03/farmers-and-climate-activists-to-demonstrate-in-the-hague-on-saturday/

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I am sure you will keep us updated Mogs.👍

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Dinger64
Dinger64
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Ooo, wouldn’t that be a fun watch?🤣🤣

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

“hence the mayor is threatening to bring in the military.”

It sounds like a set up. The climate loons are being used to stir trouble and somehow a spark will be lit, violence will break out and in come the military. This could of course lead to some sort of lockdown. Netherlands being used as a test run for shutting down agriculture. In the UK we are experimenting with locking down cities.

Who’s next?

I wonder if Dutch military will be used or a Heinz 57 variety.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Exactly what I was thinking. The official line is that both groups are being given permission to protest simultaneously in different areas but the climate nutters want to block the motorway so that farmers and supporters cannot pass. You just know the shit’s gonna hit the fan if there’s a counter-protest from the Leftie Loonies, who are obviously on the side of The Narrative, so it’ll be farmers that come off worst. They got fired at last time remember, so it’ll be interesting to see what happens. You have to pick a side, right? So it’s one vs the other, though I’m sure the authorities will diffuse anything before it really kicks off. The climate activists should be made to protest in a different city altogether, then that’d be fair to everyone, but as you say, I smell a set up too..

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Occams Pangolin Pie
Occams Pangolin Pie
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

The Dutch government is pro globalist/climate zero/WHO fans.
The climate loons are useful idiots/agent provocateurs funded and supported by said globalist/climate zero loons in suits.
Discuss.

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Monro
Monro
2 years ago

‘We had no idea just how fragile civilization was. And we had no idea just how stupid and evil our leaders are. We cannot count on them to rebuild. That is up to the rest of us.’

Jeffrey A Tucker

And that is the problem, right there…..

‘the rest of us’ is a tiny minority on this and a few other sites with GB News, starved of advertising, and the DT, largely ignored re Hancock’s half hour, as pretty much the only media outlets vaguely onside.

The vast majority of the population of the Western world are perfectly happy with socialist fascism.

After all, they voted for it……..

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Mogwai
Mogwai
2 years ago

And following on from my above link re the intentional release of the virus, here’s Igor with more evidence it was deliberate. Excellent article actually and I agree with him about China…

”All of the above suggests, while not rising to the level of “smoking gun” evidence, that the pandemic was expected and planned, and the pathogen was intentionally designed.
If so, Sars-Cov-2 is a bioweapon by definition.
Fitting the definition of a “bioweapon” may not be as big of a deal as some make it sound. It does not mean that it will kill all of us. It just means that Sars-Cov-2 is pathogenic, was developed intentionally, and its release was planned for.”

https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/to-prevent-the-next-pandemic-punish

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Occams Pangolin Pie
Occams Pangolin Pie
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

An excellent article.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

For those of us who realised early on that the C1984 was a scam and had obviously been prepared in advance the suggestion that covid was a natural virus / occurrence was always BS.

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Monro
Monro
2 years ago

‘Donald Trump indicated that he may have “made a deal” allowing Russia to take over parts of Ukraine to end the war if he were president at the time of the invasion. …’

DT

Great plan, Donald, except that your buddy thinks he has a better one which leads all the way to triggering NATO treaty article 5:

‘….the strategy document, according to one Western official with direct knowledge of its construction, belongs to the Presidential Directorate for Cross-Border Cooperation, a subdivision of Putin’s Presidential Administration, …….directorate’s actual task is to exert control over neighboring countries that Russia sees as in its sphere of influence: Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine and Moldova.’

‘The directorate is headed by Alexey Filatov, who reports directly to Dmitri Kozak, the deputy chief of the Presidential Administration. Filatov’s team was tasked to come up with new strategies that would detail Russia’s strategic goals in all six countries…..Russia’s domestic, foreign and military intelligence services — the FSB, SVR, GRU, respectively — in addition to the General Staff of the Armed Forces, all actively contributed to the Union State plan.’

‘The concept of a Union State was first introduced in the mid-1990s, in the form of a treaty…….A federation modeled on the former Soviet Union was created in 1999 with its own governing institutions, including a council of ministers, parliament and high court.’

This is corroborated elsewhere:

‘While the 9th Directorate of the FSB’s Fifth Service Department for Operational Information prepared for the occupation of Ukraine from July 2021, the 11th Unit of the Department for Operational Information, responsible for Moldova, was assessing plans for the next round of operations under the direction of Major General Dmitry Milyutin. In November 2020, the FSB’s strategic objective in Moldova was to bring about ‘The full restoration of the strategic partnership between Moldova and the Russian Federation’.

FSB Outline of Operational Aims and Means, 21 November 2021.

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Monro
Monro
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

‘Last April, Masha Moskaleva, a 12-year-old girl from the Tula region south of Moscow, drew a picture in her school art class that upset the teacher. The teacher ran to the head; the head called the police; the police told the FSB, Russia’s state security service, which interrogated Masha. Her father, a single parent, was arrested, beaten, fined and placed under house arrest. His daughter was taken into state care. Moskaleva’s crime was “discrediting the military” 

Most on this site will find that example of state fascism abhorrent

‘When a repressive state’s demand for ideological uniformity meets the human capacity for free thought, the result is terror but also absurdity. As the gap between official versions of the truth and reality widens, the central power insists on ever more grotesque levels of acquiescence. Passive obedience is no longer sufficient. Citizens must abase themselves with displays of loyalty. Masha Moskaleva’sart teacher had not asked the class to draw just any picture. The instruction was to produce something celebrating the “special military operation” in Ukraine. The demand for performance of ideology, not mere submission, signals the path from authoritarian to totalitarian government trodden by Vladimir Putin’

R. Behr

Performance of ideology like, for example, the wearing of masks…….

Masks also signal the ‘performance of ideology not mere submission and signals the path’ this country has taken since 1991 down the road to socialist fascism…..

So, probably, Britain will accept the subjugation of Ukraine and, maybe, eventually jettison Article 5 of the NATO Treaty.

Perhaps not yet but the trappings of state socialist fascism are already now everywhere in this country, have been for some time.

Enjoy……

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Occams Pangolin Pie
Occams Pangolin Pie
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

Performance ideology?
There’s a lot of it about. It can be seen here fluttering above Town Halls, Hospitals, Government buildings, Civic Theatres, etc. in the form of one particular nation’s flag.
Does this not also signal the path from ‘authoritarian government to totalitarian’? Or is it just solidarity?

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Monro
Monro
2 years ago
Reply to  Occams Pangolin Pie

No coercion involved in solidarity. Mask wearing often involved not always successful coercion, as those of us who never wore them can attest.

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EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

I see that “may have made a deal” (which I would have disagreed with) is being morphed into “Donald would allow Russia to take over”. I have not seen a direct quote of the latter.

I am sure that a more robust approach by Clinton and Obama would have restrained several nasty regimes while less involvement in Iraq2 and Afghan would not have harmed us or those peoples as much.

But why anyone thinks that allowing Putin and his gang to have a feeding frenzy on other peoples’ lands is morally right or that it would tend towards a stable world, is beyond me. It seems clear from Russian propaganda they intend(ed) to invade other former SU nations after Ukraine.

I also do not understand why NATO alone of international security groups should not admit new member states. The SU fell apart snd most of its colonies did not want to remain subordinate to Russia. As independent states they can make their own security arrangements, unlike Tibet for instance.

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Monro
Monro
2 years ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

Very well said, particularly, and importantly, since it will not make you many friends on here….

Trump did a pretty good job on Foreign Policy during his time as President and, probably, Putin would not have invaded but there may have been a quid pro quo extracted to avoid invasion…and that might have been accepted by Ukraine.

That is why the invasion is so dumb as well as barbaric, inhuman.

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Occams Pangolin Pie
Occams Pangolin Pie
2 years ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

The United States, and you will find this hard to believe, has been indulging in a feeding frenzy on other people’s lands from the 1950s. Millions upon millions are dead as a result. Russia is an amateur by comparison.

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Monro
Monro
2 years ago
Reply to  Occams Pangolin Pie

Whatever the evidence behind that point, and the USSR/Russia has slaughtered untold millions since 1917 at home and abroad, it has no relevance to Putin’s barbaric and inhuman invasion.

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Occams Pangolin Pie
Occams Pangolin Pie
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

Ha! Ha! Guatemala Chile Haiti Vietnam Cambodia Laos Iraq Iran etc etc
Stalin USSR – thanks for pointing that out.

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Gefion
Gefion
2 years ago

What about the vaccines? What about the vaccines? Where are they discussed in the MSM? Where are the ‘leaks’ about them in the MSM?

Where are the in-depth condemnations of the vaccines from emails and WhatsApp?Where are the investigations into the effects -short and long of the vaccines?

We are being distracted by all the information about the pandemic and the information that has come to light in the MSM. Is this to make us think that it’s all over and get us to accept that ‘mistakes were made’ and ‘lessons learnt’? Is this to make us forget about the vaccines and their damage?

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  Gefion

“Is this to make us forget about the vaccines and their damage?”

In part yes. The ‘clearing of the decks’ is intended to confirm society’s amnesia regarding the evils of the last three years and thus to ensure the sheeple are suitably compliant when Billy releases his next concoction.

The next relesse is due some time after the Pandemic Preparedness Treaty has been suitably signed, sealed and delivered.

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Gefion
Gefion
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I attempted a conversation with a friend who still has her head in the Covid sand. Most of what has happened is all perfectly acceptable to her as it was a new virus and nobody knew what to do. Her family are all vaccinated to the hilt for the good of society as well as the ability to travel abroad, you understand.

She didn’t believe me three years ago when I told her we’d be locked up nor when I tried to explain about the vaccine damage her son-in-law is suffering from although his heart issues are blamed on Covid itself.

I haven’t seen her since the interesting WhatsApps have surfaced so I’m looking forward to what she’ll have to say.

She’s one of many, I’m sorry to say.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  Gefion

Thanks for this post. Very sad really the sheer gullibility.

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ebygum
ebygum
2 years ago
Reply to  Gefion

I’ve done that thing where I tried to upload an image and it’s gone goodness knows where…!!
Bob Moran’s latest cartoon is one of his best..absolutely brilliant…if you can, have a look at his Twitter.

it says ‘thanks for making us a ‘vaccine…
’we made you a ‘play swing’……the drawing is a scaffold…LOL! It absolutely spot on…

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

https://www.instagram.com/p/CpgZiANtJt8/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

Any good ebg?

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ELH
ELH
2 years ago
Reply to  Gefion

the greatest lie told during covid – by el gato malo (substack.com) Have you seen this? A very good article and a slightly different approach we can use when discussing with normies.

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Gefion
Gefion
2 years ago
Reply to  ELH

What a great article. Thank you very much. I have a scientific background but can see that some people would overwhelmed with it.

I didn’t know about the aspirin aspect of the Spanish flu but my mother lost relatives during it and she was always very wary of aspirin. There is so much to unpack about this situation we find ourselves in especially those of us who are aware of the underlying goings on but get dismissed as conspiracy theorists.

I have no idea why anyone would down tick the article BTW…

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Dinger64
Dinger64
2 years ago

“The true impact of winter on electric car performance revealed”
And on top of that, do they actually test the car for its real day to day use? The vw can carry at least 5 adults! Do they put this weight (plus luggage) in the car to get these test figures? What about the car steaming up on a damp cold dark winter day/night with 5 people in it? AC on, lights on, heater on!
You don’t often (never) see an ev car advert with more than 2 people pilling out of it do you?

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
2 years ago

Cock-up or conspiracy?? This article contains a lot of information & links to evidence to enable you to form your own opinion.

https://www.ourgreaterdestiny.ca/p/ppp-id2020-un2030-society-50-smart

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
2 years ago

Research paper from 2011 looking at infant mortality rates in the context of infant vaccination schedules.
This is a debate which we really ought to be having in the open.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0960327111407644

As an aside, on C4 Crufts evening programme yesterday, they were promoting a fundraiser for research into canine cancer, the rates for which are now 1 in 3! What’s changed over time? The number of vaccinations a dog has in its lifetime plus monthly oral worming. Monthly subscriptions paid to the vet for vaccinations & worming meds is a cash cow of regular income. Is this not health why it’s pushed so hard??
Researchers of vaccination schedules, using the Amish as the control group, have concluded that there is no safe vaccination, including for animals.

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Occams Pangolin Pie
Occams Pangolin Pie
2 years ago
Reply to  BurlingtonBertie

I’m sure US Deep State would love to manufacture some toxic genetic jollop to take out the Amish. Who wants a control group making a mockery of their devilish practises?

When US neocon pharmfia/industrial/chemical/Operation Paperclip evil shortly reduces the ‘civilized world’ to post apocalyptic rubble there will be a very long queue to join the Amish.

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
2 years ago
Reply to  Occams Pangolin Pie

There is an Amish woman in MD4CE who was approached a few years ago to participate in genetic research. They particularly wanted Amish genetic data as the Amish don’t use the medical services, they’d not got any! She politely told them to do a running jump.
It’s all about DNA & data.

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JohnK
JohnK
2 years ago

Yesterday’s health politics analysis by JC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuY7ZZuSUYY&list=WL&index=8 “Medical advice and politicians”. About 19 minutes.

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
2 years ago

The impact of hospital protocols during the plandemic, & still ongoing, discussed here. Also raises a very interesting point about locations of new ‘variants’ & locations of bioweapon injection research trials.

The lockdown message leaks are not addressing these issues & Oakeshott dismisses protocol NG163 as a conspiracy theory…. Still being prescribed by the caring NHS, sanctioned by NICE.

https://peterhalligan.substack.com/p/how-many-people-were-killed-by-the

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
2 years ago

Only watched a few minutes of this, but it’s relevant to the idiocracy & fraudulent claims of Net Zero cultists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIv_zEcERLA

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ebygum
ebygum
2 years ago
Reply to  BurlingtonBertie

I seem to be stalking you today BB ….LOL…!
This is also an excellent article….
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/03/04/feasibility-for-achieving-a-net-zero-economy-for-the-u-s-by-2050/

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Occams Pangolin Pie
Occams Pangolin Pie
2 years ago

So, here we are: struggling to get beyond lab leak by/from/in China and generally attempting to do the okey-cokey around the volcano’s rim. Feel how tightly these journos, politicians and scientists are gripping each other’s hands? One false move… ‘You put your left leg in…’

Wake me up when the truth surfaces and we can finally all acknowledge SARS-Cov-2 is a bioweapon, manufactured, funded in part by the USA. A bioweapon put together by the darkest of Deep State actors for a multiplicity of dark psychotic reasons.

Wake me up when we acknowledge that the jab was in preparation before the bioweapon was.

Wake me up when the ‘journalists’ above stop dancing around the issue and stop talking about missed appointments, children’s IQ and WhatsApp.

Bioweapon release produces mRNA ‘solution’.

But the evil plan miscarried somewhat. Was it meant to be more potent, this virus? I think probably so. Who will line up for the next mRNA jollop for avian flu, zika, Ebola.

Wake me up when… on second thoughts, don’t bother.

Popcorn flavoured vape anyone?

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ebygum
ebygum
2 years ago
Reply to  Occams Pangolin Pie

…also, it’s just my thoughts but now that the USA is turning its thoughts away from the mess it’s made in Ukraine with its proxy war….towards attacking China…through another poor proxy, Taiwan…are we being fed a good bit of China propaganda?
Wherever the virus came from, it was a cold to the vast majority, and in no way a deadly pandemic…..it’s the way that Governments reacted to it that needs thorough investigation ….. and it’s that which is the major tragedy surely?

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JayBee
JayBee
2 years ago

Welcome to the club. That slur explained and that it is a badge of honor and of being right now:
https://brownstone.org/articles/far-right-the-n-word-of-politics/

“… a person who has justified a policy of imposing upon, and even harming, some people for what she believes is a greater good is a person for whom an admission of error would also be an admission of having done something that, by her own argument, was morally bad. Such a thing can threaten a person’s entire sense of self and many other beliefs that she lives by. 
We are now able to understand why fervent supporters of a mainstream-endorsed, widely accepted policy that involves ostensibly well-intended, massive state action that has negative consequences so often call their opponents “far-right” when those opponents start making political headway. 

That her opponent opposes her preferred policy of massive state intervention puts him, in her eyes, on the political Right; that he is doing so with ill-intent puts him, in her eyes, on the Far Right.
The “Far Right” slur begins to be hurled when those at whom it is targeted are beginning to succeed among the wider population in casting doubt on the policy that has until that time prevailed unchallenged. Only when challenges to the statist quo begin to be taken seriously in the media, culture and politics, do its supporters feel the need to defend their position. 

When the facts are not with them, they have few options other than resorting to ad hominem attacks – and no such attack better fits the false inference of ill-intended opposition to state action than “far-right.” By the same token, no attack better fits the purposes of state actors with an interest in containing a minority opinion that threatens to expose their designs. 

“Far-right” is a slur; it is the N-word of politics. All it usually means is, “Here are the people who got far more right than we did.””

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JayBee
JayBee
2 years ago

WTF?!
That one was new to me. I’d say that one also matches exactly our anecdotal observations among gene-therapied friends&family:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/03/joseph-mercola/how-pfizers-trials-were-fraudulent/

“Pfizer Created an ‘Illusion’ of Effectiveness

In November 2020, Pfizer claimed its COVID-19 shot was 95% effective against catching COVID-19, but this was highly misleading and based on flawed methodology. One trick used to get this misleadingly high efficacy figure is to ignore people who got COVID-19 within 14 days after their first shot.

In Pfizer’s trial, 37.2% of those who were tested for COVID-19 within 13 days of their first shot were positive — but not counted as such.

The study found that during any two-week period from December 28, 2020, to May 19, 2021, the COVID-19 infection rate was about 0.8%, compared to 37.2% among those tested within two weeks of their first shot.

“If people were tested every two weeks then we could reasonably conclude the vaccinated were getting infected — within two weeks of their first jab — at a rate that was almost 50 times greater than the general rate for this population,” but “if you don’t look for covid, by not testing for it, or by ignoring the test results you won’t find it.””

But hey, we already have Pfizer’s defense as per the trial in process:
We did not commit fraud. We delivered the fraud the government ordered.

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
2 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Sasha Latypova has been reporting this fraud for months now, since the judge ordered release of the Pfizer documents which the CDC wanted 75 years to release.

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JohnK
JohnK
2 years ago

Unachievable timescales for (road) EVs: https://eandt.theiet.org/content/articles/2023/03/ev-transition-targets-are-not-achievable-within-current-timelines-industry-says/ An article in E&T online.

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
2 years ago

A little montage which puts government proclamations into context of the What’sApp messages.
https://twitter.com/CartlandDavid/status/1634110560823398401

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
2 years ago

This needs to be shared widely. Coming for domestic, independent food supplies using the fraudulent PCR ‘test’ to find whatever organic toxic sludge they decide to look for to ‘diagnose’ a disease which, if one subscribes to no virus theory, doesn’t exist.

Open consultation
Poultry and other captive birds: registration in Great Britain

Consultation description
We want to hear your views on our plans to amend and extend the current compulsory poultry registration requirements to all bird keepers or bird keepers with 10 or more birds.
We are also seeking your views on the requirement for all bird keepers to update their information on the register annually.

This consultation closes at
11:45pm on 31 May 2023

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/poultry-and-other-captive-birds-registration-in-great-britain

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ebygum
ebygum
2 years ago
Reply to  BurlingtonBertie

…read in conjunction with this….and we know the BillG has plunged millions into fake meat…along with lack of fertiliser and closing down farms due to the zero green agenda…constantly pushing the vegan agenda…….it doesn’t look good…

https://news.mikecallicrate.com/globalist-end-game-taking-over-farmland-in-the-us-eu-and-ukraine-family-farms-slammed/

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
2 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

And it’s all just a cock-up….

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ebygum
ebygum
2 years ago

Just because it will cheer you up..

from last year..Human Rights Lawyer Leigh Dundas, telling California why they wouldn’t be locking down for RSV….
https://rumble.com/embed/v1qx1fi?pub=75zn/?autoplay=false

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JohnK
JohnK
2 years ago

Today’s political story, by R Vobes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvp9VI_7wSo&list=WL&index=5

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Chris P
Chris P
2 years ago

Monkey boy’s tribute to Kenny Rogers: –

https://www.bitchute.com/video/cO06qbqcUdqq/

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