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Threatening the Unvaccinated With Social Penalties Flies in the Face of Informed Consent

by Toby Young
13 August 2021 1:11 PM

We’re publishing an original piece on the Daily Sceptic by a senior executive in a pharmaceutical company about why penalising those who haven’t had a Covid vaccine is contrary to the principle of informed consent. Here is an extract:

Unlike the benefit, the safety risks associated with SARS-CoV-2 vaccinations are not age dependent and include rare, serious adverse events including death. So, the balance of benefit and risk for their use also varies with age and is vastly different for a diabetic man in his 60s compared to a healthy young woman in her 20s. From the perspective of the benefit to the individual, there is therefore no way we should be considering vaccinating healthy young people using these vaccines. The likelihood of serious adverse effects may be small but then so is the likelihood of avoiding serious COVID-19 and so there is a very real possibility that a mass vaccination campaign of young people will produce more harm than benefit. In fact, the original strategy was to focus COVID-19 vaccinations on the over-50s for precisely this benefit/risk reason.

But somewhere along the way, COVID-19 vaccinations stopped being solely about the benefit to the individual and started to be about the benefit to society (i.e., the goal of achieving herd immunity). A brief reminder: herd immunity occurs when a sufficient proportion of a population is immune to a given pathogen in such a way that the likelihood of encountering an infectious person drops, as does the likelihood of an infectious person being able to pass the infection on to another individual who also becomes infectious. As a result, herd immunity protects individuals who are naïve to an infection simply because they are unlikely to ever encounter an infectious person and at the same time it means that an infection can no longer spread effectively through the population and may even die out.

Vaccinations can produce herd immunity and in the case of smallpox were so effective that they led to the elimination of the disease itself. But from an informed consent perspective there is one huge difference between vaccination campaigns that have historically produced herd immunity and that being pursued for COVID-19 and that is that historically the diseases concerned were of significant risk to those receiving the vaccination. For example, measles is a significant risk for young children and so we vaccinate young children. But young children often grow up to be adults and carry their measles immunity with them and so, as a result, measles herd immunity emerges as a consequence of measles vaccination… it is absolutely not its aim.

Worth reading in full.

Stop Press: For a diametrically opposite view, see this piece in Salon: “It’s OK to blame the unvaccinated – they are robbing the rest of us of our freedoms.”

Tags: Informed consentVaccines

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
5 months ago

Thursday Morning Spitfire Way & Comet Way, Woodley
Wokingham 

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Dinger64
Dinger64
5 months ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

No news round up for the 12th April?

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CircusSpot
CircusSpot
5 months ago

Well done Kemi hitting back at the smug presenters.
Maybe she could have asked why all the Post Office workers have still not been paid compo after the TV show highlighting this issue.
Or maybe we could have a BBC series over the blood scandal where some of them still have not received compensation or even a TV show of the rape gangs and some’fictional police & other State paid workers standing back and letting it happen’.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
5 months ago
Reply to  CircusSpot

Perhaps we could have a “fictional” series about ‘safe and effective,’ that should get the viewers interested.

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CircusSpot
CircusSpot
5 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

😂

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Art Simtotic
Art Simtotic
5 months ago

“Pseudoscience, a salad garden and a study on pregnant men: how Britain’s quangos spend your money”

Congratulations to the redoubtable Charlotte Gill for making the MSM. As a commenter on the Telegraph article states, “Interesting how many of these act as slush funds for Net Zero, DIE and other parts of the progressive agenda.”

Given that “Labour has also created dozens more quangos (including the Fair Work Agency and the Independent Football Regulator) since coming to power,” I somehow doubt Labour will be lighting many bonfires of the vanities, inanities and insanities.

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Art Simtotic
Art Simtotic
5 months ago

“Oxford debate contest forces hundreds of children to declare pronouns”

Defund South Midlands Arts College!

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Art Simtotic
Art Simtotic
5 months ago

“Welsh Government offers £5,000 more to student teachers from ethnic minorities”

And no human rights legal parasite anywhere to be seen.

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Monro
Monro
5 months ago

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-pows-war-crimes-putin-zelenskyy-a2185297338af410fb5122448e62db76

‘The Ukrainian soldiers clambered from the ruined house at gunpoint — one with arms raised in surrender to the Russian troops — and lay face-down in the early spring grass.
Two drones — one Ukrainian and one Russian — recorded the scene from high above the southern Ukrainian village of Piatykhatky. The Associated Press managed to get both videos.

They offer very different versions of what happened next.

The Ukrainian drone video, which AP obtained from European military officials, shows soldiers with Russian uniform markings raising their weapons and shooting each of the four Ukrainians in the back with such ferocity that one man was left without a head.

“Out of all the executions that we’ve seen since late 2023, it’s one of the clearest cases,” said Rollo Collins of the Centre for Information Resilience, a London group that specializes in visual investigations and reviewed the video at AP’s request.

“This is not a typical combat killing. This is an illegal action.”

The Russian drone video, which AP located on pro-Kremlin social media, cuts off abruptly with the men lying on the ground — alive. “As a result of the work done by our guys, the enemy decided not to be killed and came out with their hands up,” wrote a Russian military blogger who posted the video.

Two videos. Two stories. In one, the prisoners appear to live. In the other, they die.

‘evidence of potential war crimes continues to mount’

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Monro
Monro
5 months ago
Reply to  Monro

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14597453/Britain-backing-plans-Nuremberg-style-trial-Vladimir-Putin-amid-calls-Russians-prosecuted-crimes-invasion-Ukraine.html

‘Britain is set to back prosecuting Vladimir Putin for war crimes in a move modelled on the Nuremberg trials of Nazis after the Second World War. 

It is understood the UK will join most European nations to back proposals at the Council of Europe to put Russians on trial for ‘crimes of aggression’ during the invasion of Ukraine. 

An ad hoc military tribunal would be set up to prosecute Russian generals and leaders for war crimes, according to plans Britain will back at a meeting of the European human rights organisation next month. 

A UN study found in March last year that Russia was continuing to commit serious rights violations and war crimes in Ukraine, including ‘systematic’ torture and rape.

The high-level Commission of Inquiry (COI) on the rights situation in Ukraine since the full-scale invasion, said that it had found fresh evidence of widespread abuses.

It also voiced concern about the continued use of explosive weapons in civilian areas, confirming ‘a pattern of disregard by Russian armed forces for possible harm to civilians’

‘The evidence shows that Russian authorities have committed violation of international human rights and international humanitarian law and corresponding war crimes,’

COI chief Erik Mose

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For a fist full of roubles
For a fist full of roubles
5 months ago
Reply to  Monro

You are wasting your time, sweetheart. Nobody is interested any more.

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Monro
Monro
5 months ago
Reply to  Monro

Although the ICC established jurisdiction over crimes of aggression…….this only applies to countries and nationals from countries that are party to the Rome Statute. Russia, like the US and China, is not a signatory.

This is why Western allies have explored the option of creating an ad-hoc tribunal that would be empowered to prosecute the specific case of Russia’s war on Ukraine.

“Without the crime of aggression, there wouldn’t be any war crimes either,” High Representative Kaja Kallas said in early February.

“Therefore, it’s extremely important that there is also accountability for the crime of aggression. No one from Russia and no one from Russia’s leadership is untouchable.”

“It is also very important to send a signal that unpunished crimes only encourage further aggression,” she added, stressing the tribunal should be set up “before the war is over”.

“I’m personally convinced it’s not going to be a fake institution in the Hague with no impact but that it’s actually going to serve for years to come, and history will judge this tribunal very positively.”

The immunity that heads of state, heads of government and foreign ministers enjoy is considered an additional, and formidable, obstacle to the in-person prosecution.

“However, international law is evolving, and personal immunity is not a carte blanche for impunity,” the spokesperson of the Council of Europe said.

“The Council of Europe believes that the formula found for the Special Tribunal on this issue will suffice to ensure accountability and fight impunity.”

The last time the crime of aggression was brought to justice was during the Nuremberg trials held after World War II

The conditions are laid out in the draft agreement that would provide the legal basis to set up the special tribunal within the framework of the Council of Europe, a human rights organisation based in Strasbourg. The organisation is not part of the European Union but the bloc is closely involved in the process.

Technical work wrapped up in late March during a meeting of the so-called “Core Group” in Strasbourg, which produced three separate draft documents: a bilateral agreement between Ukraine and the Council of Europe, the statute of the special tribunal and the agreement detailing the management of the special tribunal.

The signature is pencilled to take place in Kyiv on 9 May, coinciding with Europe Day, although the exact timeline will depend on the political endorsement.

The limitations on the trial in absentia are seen as a “compromise” between countries, an EU official indicated. Following months of deliberations, the provision is now a “done deal”, with virtually no chance of being amended before the presentation.

“At the end of the day, it’s about politics and bargaining,” the official said.

Once Kyiv signs the agreement, the text will be put to a vote in the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, which gathers representatives of the 46 nations that are party to the organisation. Russia was expelled shortly after it launched the war.

A two-thirds majority will be needed to ratify the deal, and is all but guaranteed thanks to the broad support for the initiative among member states.

Some countries that have espoused Russian-friendly positions, such as Hungary and Serbia, might abstain or vote against it, although no individual vetoes will apply.

Democratic nations outside the continent, like Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Japan, are expected to join the initiative, broadening its legitimacy.

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Dinger64
Dinger64
5 months ago

“The immigration lawyer fighting to legalise Hamas”

Arrest him for aiding and abetting a proscribed terrorist organisation!

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soundofreason
soundofreason
5 months ago

“Trump’s tariffs might spell the end of China” – In the Telegraph, Benedict Rogers argues that President Trump’s targeted tariffs on China, if successfully leveraged by the global community, could cripple China’s economy and potentially lead to a domestic uprising.

Destabilising a country like that could easily lead to a shooting war. If the CCP feel threatened by their own people the people of China they will stir up jingoism and are quite capable of committing them as cannon fodder into a war with neighbouring countries.

Reciprocal jingoism if you like.

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Heretic
Heretic
5 months ago

“Lucy Connolly shouldn’t be in prison”

True. And neither should hundreds of others like father-of-three Bradley McCarthy, jailed for nearly 2 years:

UK riots: Man jailed for shouting at police dog and racist slurs – BBC News

“Bristol Crown Court heard he played a “prominent” role in trying to goad police, and had “aggressively” shouted at a police dog.”

[There was no mention of the “racist slurs”, added to the BBC headline to give further justification for throwing him in prison.]

I hope KING CHARLES III will issue A ROYAL PARDON to all those British Patriots unjustly imprisoned for protesting against the Horrific Rapes and Murders of CHILDREN by Third World Immigrants welcomed to the UK and supported by UK Taxpayers.

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