The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in America has published a new study claiming to show that, among the previously infected, the unvaccinated are at more than double the risk of re-infection than the vaccinated.
It forms part of their evidence for why people who have had COVID-19 before should get vaccinated and not rely on natural immunity.
It has a number of problems, however.
The study looks retrospectively at data from the U.S. state of Kentucky. The researchers identify all those in the state who were re-infected during May and June 2021 (defined in terms of positive tests a certain number of days apart) and compare their vaccination rates to a control group. They find 246 re-infections in that period, and calculate that those who were not vaccinated were 2.34 times more likely to be re-infected than those who were vaccinated.
The study has a number of limitations, however, some of which the authors acknowledge.
Firstly, the study period of May and June 2021 is notable for being a period of very low prevalence in the state, meaning it is not a good time to study acquired immunity, which is best studied during a new surge when it is most put to the test. The authors themselves acknowledge that because the study covers just one period in one state, the “findings cannot be used to infer causation”.
The authors also acknowledge that test-seeking behaviour may skew the findings to exaggerate vaccine effectiveness, as vaccinated people are probably less likely to get tested.
Another weakness is that the study doesn’t include symptom data so we don’t know whether the “reinfections” were actual disease or just asymptomatic and mild infections of the kind that are characteristic of the immune system working.
A related problem is that there is no discussion of how big the problem of re-infection is from an absolute standpoint. With only 246 re-infections (of unknown severity) in a population of 4.5 million over a two month period, it’s not clear that even if vaccination did halve your probability of re-infection it would be a difference worth getting vaccinated (which carries its own risks) to achieve.
Another problem with the study is that it may be confounded by a number of factors, not just test-seeking behaviour, but also age, for example.
The main claim of the study (about vaccination-plus-infection giving better protection than infection-by-itself) comes from the fact that the unvaccinated made up 73% of those who were re-infected but only 58% of those weren’t re-infected. But this outcome could easily be skewed by the fact that the young are both less likely to be vaccinated and more likely to be exposed, so that the unvaccinated are ‘over-represented’ in the re-infected. Unfortunately, we can’t get any clue as to whether this is what is going on as the results aren’t broken down by age, so we can’t tell whether the re-infections disproportionately occur in the more socially active and less vaccinated young.
If this is the basis on which the CDC is planning to encourage previously infected young people to get the jab to supposedly enhance their immunity then they should be ashamed of themselves. They should at least state the absolute risk reduction (over a range of prevalence levels) so people have a better understanding of the true level of protection the vaccines are giving them (according to the study), rather than just talking in terms of halving a risk that they fail to mention was very small to begin with.
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So does anyone know what a ”life sentence” equates to if you won’t be actually banged up for the rest of your natural life? Plus, whatever it is he should of course be doing three of them as well as whatever one gets for attempted murder these days multiplied by eight. So surely this altogether would put him behind bars until he’s at least middle-aged, if not older, or not?
”With Rudakubana due for sentencing on Thursday, January 23rd, he appears to have avoided a ‘whole-life tariff’ on account of his age and guilty plea. Prime Minister Keir Starmer has pledged to draw a “line in the sand” against what he describes as the new form of terrorism that the attack represents. This will involve targeting ‘similar’ offenders in future and a national public inquiry into alleged institutional failings.
A performative response to the killings, in the hope that public fury further subsides, is already taking shape. Starmer is gearing up to tackle the new (and largely confected) problem of “loners, misfits, young men in their bedrooms”—echoing the U.S. preoccupation with ‘incels’ who become school shooters—to be resolved by another online clampdown on internet content and social media.”
https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news/what-else-are-we-not-being-told-starmer-under-pressure-over-southport-killer/
It’s difficult to loathe the man enough! Is he trying to out Blair, Tony Blair?
Considering his party only received 20% of the vote, its obscene that he sits authoritatively with such a large majority.
Personally, I would love to know what these Western Democratic principles we live under. Why would any nation wish to have our corrupt brand of democracy and Western values?
Irrespective of what sentence this evil turd gets tomorrow, I can only hope somebody finishes him off in prison ( or he does himself in ) because in years gone by it would’ve been the death penalty, so this really is the best form of justice that I can think of. Keeping scum like this alive in prison, where their human rights are upheld and they’re not freezing to death on the streets like the non-criminal native homeless, at the tax payers’ expense is just ludicrous. In fact, if these migrants and their descendants knew there was the death penalty they might think twice about committing some of the sick, twisted crimes that they do. But instead they’ve got it cushy and there’s basically zero deterrent.
To know right from wrong requires a moral compass.
These animals lack that, or any sense of morality. They certainly don’t deserve to live in the country I grew up in!
I actually doubt a death sentence would deter some of these scum, they think their actions are somehow justified or forgivable.
Remember that achieving martyrdom is an end in itself, so their own lives are deliberately deemphasised.
That ‘martyrdom’ could be easily limited for a certain class by ensuring that if they die while in prison they are buried in a pigskin.
Apparently, virgins don’t take kindly to such polluted ‘martyrs’.
Of course the death sentence would deter the particular perpetrator; whether it would deter those who would contemplate similar future actions is less certain. But there’s little downside to at least ensuring there is no repeat performance from the first actor; revenge is a justified response.
As a very minimum ALL immigrants, both initial and first generation must know that any breach of the laws of our land will result in automatic Deportation. I guarantee this will focus minds and sharpish.
What’s one more mass-stabbing on the streets of a European country? Daily occurrence, but this has just happened today. Naturally I blame the retailer that sold him the knife. I’m very confident it’s just another native German running amok. Probably a far-right AfD supporter…;
”A man and child have been killed in a horror German mass stabbing that has also left several people injured.
Police have arrested a man after he descended on members of the public in the Bavarian town of Aschaffenburg, killing two and injuring others on a shock rampage at around 11.45am today. First responders have cordoned off a large portion of the city, covering Schöntal Park, where the attack is believed to have taken place, and suspended local traffic in the area, and have taken one man into custody.”
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-man-child-killed-horror-34530685
EDIT: Damn. I was way off in my prediction. Who’d have guessed it?
”A man, described by police as a 28-year-old Afghan national, has been arrested following the knife attack in a park in Aschaffenburg on Wednesday.”
https://news.sky.com/story/two-killed-in-knife-attack-in-germany-13294102
He deliberately targeted little kids on a daycare outing at the park, FFS;
”A 28-year-old Afghan national has been arrested following a brutal stabbing spree targeting a group of daycare children and their teachers in Schöntal Park, an idyllic green space in the Bavarian town of Aschaffenburg.
Authorities have confirmed to local news outlet Main Echo that a 2-year-old child died from multiple stab wounds while a 41-year-old man who attempted to intervene during the attack was also killed.
Two others sustained serious injuries, including a second child currently being operated on at the Aschaffenburg Clinic.
According to initial reports, the suspect followed a group of young children and their teachers from a local daycare as they walked through the park around 11:45 a.m. Sensing a threat, the teachers reportedly tried to leave the area, but the attacker launched his assault with a knife, seemingly targeting the children.”
https://rmx.news/article/afghan-national-arrested-for-deadly-stabbing-attack-on-daycare-children-in-bavarian-park/
The EU has imported millions of potential murderers like this. And the British Government has ensured that “we have taken our fair share.”
I’ve seen posts and videos suggesting around 25-28 years.
It’s worth remembering that that’s the minimum term and that’s when he would become eligible for parole rather than being automatically released. Though with the path we’re taking I wouldn’t be surprised if he was straight out then sadly
For 3 murders and 12 attempted murders that’s appallingly disproportionate. And there should be no chance of parole. He will always remain a danger too, possibly more so after serving that amount of time among other psycho Muslims who’ll just reinforce his murderous beliefs and ideology. So jail in this scenario can hardly be deemed a rehabilitative experience, can it? That’s why any sane person would want these scumbags deported once they’ve done their time. They can get sent back to their third world shitholes where standards of living and cultural norms are vastly different, but sadly that is out of the question when said scum are born over here. It’s bad enough when they’ve acquired citizenship, then the ‘human rights traitors’ step in and save them from being booted out because on paper they’re ‘British’.
It’s low because as well as avoiding the whole life tariff because he was under 21 being under 18 also lowers the starting point and the amount that can be added for severity etc.
I agree he shouldn’t get parole but in this country now…
Tommy Robinson is being made to serve time in solitary.
Twenty eight years solitary, restricted diet followed by deportation should be an absolute minimum.
I suspect that being born here makes deportation unlawful.
The thing is that a life sentence means that consideration for parole is not automatic, if the prisoner shows no evidence of rehabilitation then there may be no referral to a parole board and no hearing may occur, if it does the parole may be refused, it requires the acceptance of the conditions of parole by the prisoner.
If someone is ever released on licence they are subject to immediate recall to prison if they breach the parole conditions or commit even a minor offence, this does not need to pass through a court from what I understand, it’s automatic and the police are immediately told to remand the parolee in custody until the prison service arrive to take them back inside.
The thing is that a life sentence was the substitute for an entirely deserved hanging when sold to the public. Yes, the government lying to us goes back beyond Tony the Liar.
He’ll be released because his place will be needed to incarcerate someone who wrote ‘hurty’ words expressing their disdain at the shameful erosion of traditional British values.
Unfortunately you’re probably right…
Actually it was 10 kids and 2 adults that he stabbed and injured in addition to the 3 girls he killed. I don’t know where I got 8 kids from. So in addition to 3 life sentences he needs to go down for 12 attempted murders too, whatever that looks like as I don’t know off the top of my head;
”On 29 July 2024 Axel Rudakubana climbed into a taxi to travel to a Taylor Swift–themed yoga & dance workshop at the Hart Space in Southport. He arrived 11.45 am wearing a black hooded top & a COVID-style face mask.
He attacked two adults & 13 children, killing three, Bebe King, 6, & Elsie Dot Stancombe, 7, died at the scene. Alice da Silva Aguiar, 9, died in hospital the following day.
Jonathan Hayes working in the office tried to disarm him but was stabbed in the leg.
At 11.47 police received their first 999 call, they arrived & Rudakubana was standing over a body, knife in hand.
The hero is yoga teacher Leanne Lucas. Stabbed in the back & critically injured she hauled herself off the blood soaked floor to open the door, she told them to run & not to stop. They found refuge in a nearby house. One poor girl was dragged back by Rudakubana.
His aim was to kill them all. The injuries of the dead girls are so horrific, so cruel, out of respect to the families I will not publish them. You are welcome to DM me. ”
https://x.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1882043532036149286
I’m pretty sure that the judge knows exactly what provisions and limitations he has in sentencing this killer, and the other non-fatal offences will all be considered as well.
We don’t have long to discover what will happen, I don’t know how this works in terms of the judges on the Liverpool Crown Court circuit but there will be advice from other judges available.
“a national public inquiry”
There seems to be an unhealthy interest in “public enquiries” all of a sudden. No sooner does Hallett complete one whitewash and she’s plucked for another.
I tend to the view that it’s not inquiries we need but trials and they have the advantages of being quicker, cheaper and less open to manipulation so long as a straight judge can be located.
We’ve seen in every enquiry currently that evidence that the establishment doesn’t want admitted is not accepted either from someone presenting it in person or via written evidence. That is simply the sign of a sick system at work, with everything designed to not frighten the horses.
But not pointing is his direction, obviously. [sarcasm]
I suspect that any further Inquiry will be more deflection and carefully dodge the question about how the details were ‘managed’ by politicians. Nigel Farage’s allegation of Cover Up Keir seem quite to the point.
I don’t know why the author ever thought Starmer to be a decent person.
To me he has always come across as a repulsive human being.
He probably would have thrived in the old Soviet Union, particularly during the Stalin years…
Agree 100%
For a while if DS needed a picture of him they used the one where he is “taking the knee”. I think that’s the ONLY one they should use, just to remind anyone visiting the site of exactly what type of person he is. Either that or a picture of him wearing a face nappy – every politician they picture on this site should feature them wearing a face nappy, so we know where they stood at the time.
That’s actually a great idea. As more time passes, they are going to look more and more ridiculous with their muzzles. We should never allow them to forget what the f***ers did .
That’s the one! How could anyone vote for that, regardless of your politics????
I suppose it gave the Ginger Growler the opportunity to brazenly flaunt her . . .
‘humanity’.
I now feel sick.
Repulsive virtue signaller.
I hope the image haunts him for the rest of his days.
In contrast to Hitchens unmuzzled and standing tall:
Undeserved Praise – or Thoughts on not ‘Taking the Buttock’ at the ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ Demonstration in Oxford – Mail Online – Peter Hitchens blog
100% tof.
This picture is of course from whence he derives the wholly appropriate first name, Kneel.
Kneel Smarmer
I knew he was a Trilateral Commission Globalist who prefers Davos, what more does the author need to know FFS!
Davos is the mother of all lobby groups for corporations. It is the mechanism for lobbying all countries at the same time rather than having to go country by country. They congregate government representatives and get them to outbid each other to give preferential conditions and adjust laws to their liking. They also congregate multi national entities because they’re an efficient way of influencing legislation at a global level though treaties.
The bureaucrats and politicians that attend Davos are doing so knowing full well what the game is. Which begs the question why they go? For the benefit of their populations? Or is it to enhance their personal power and careers and set themselves up with some nice golden parachutes for when they’re done selling out the populations they are supposed to serve?
That goes for Starmer, Sunak, Johnson, May and the rest of the self serving weasels.
And there is also the Stakeholder Capitalism element pushed by Mr Schwab.
That’s what he and his ilk are trying to create here: a Soviet Union-style society.
“What we have seen in Starmer since he came to office is something very different – a petty, inhumane, almost spiteful man who considers himself to be morally superior to the mass of humanity and has no qualms whatsoever about breaking eggs to make omelettes.”
This is true of every single lefty/marxist/communist/adolphist politician that has ever emerged.
Every one of them.
Petty, inhumane, spiteful, unscrupulous.
“…almost spiteful…”
almostspiteful…”For the further benefit of our overseas readers, the last word in para 4 ‘porkies‘ is Cockney rhyming slang for ‘lies’. As in “porky pies…” 🙂 It’s a good word to know, in Starmer’s Britain….
Aye, because that barsteward spews them day in day out. How to confirm that Starmer is lying – his lips are moving. Which of course can be safely said of all the Labour front bench / party.
What are you talking about, the attacker is a prime example of a valleys boy!
One thing not mentioned in this essay is the fact that they used a younger picture of him as a kid, when they have the up to date pic of this evil swine with dead eyes. Remember the Rivers of Blood speech, quite prophetic.
This is what Mark Steyn had to say on the matter
“I do not use the word “evil” lightly. But the British media during my brief return to their precincts got Keir Stürmer all wrong: he was presented, by contrast with Boris Johnson, as mostly bland and dull. Not at all. He’s a psycho whose instincts on almost anything are profoundly totalitarian. So even now he presents the slaughterer of schoolgirls, known to the authorities and its stupid “Prevent” programme, not as a foreseeable consequence of public policy but as the result of online “disinformation”.
So the schoolgirls will be safe if only we give Ofcom more powers.
There is a great deal of ruin in a nation, said Adam Smith. Not this much. Britain is approaching the end-point. Trump should steer well clear of these guys”
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I hope that Trump can get the torpedoes in the water.
“They will naturally condemn the way good, law-abiding Muslims were made to feel unsafe last August.”
What the bloody hell is Mc Grogan on about? Could he link to any evidence? Is this the usual apology that has to be forced in to any article which features the barbarism of islam? Give it a rest for crying out loud.
It is curious that such a law-abiding, cuddly, fluffy, peace-loving bunch of folks manage to produce huge numbers of depraved individuals all over the globe. Must just be unhappy coincidence.
Isn’t it just.
Because their book tells them that this is exactly what they must do, and hiding it in apparent law-abiding behaviour is entirely acceptable to get into a position to strike with the most damage done.
“however complicated the story has turned out to in fact be.”
There is nothing complicated in this very, very sad story although without a shadow of a doubt Starmer has besmirched the memory of those poor little girls with his despicable lies, cover-ups and faux sympathy. Add to this the deliberate creation of a new prisoner class and it is abundantly clear who deserves to feel the full force of the law.
“Starmer has always sought to portray himself as a decent, honest, good-hearted person who wishes to rise above the nastiness of contemporary politics. And I, like many other people, was initially taken in by that…”
Says it all. If anybody has ever fallen for ‘decent, good-hearted’ Starmer they need their bumps feeling – tip for the future David, keep this to yourself.
Why does everyone assume that this guy was a terrorist – what, then was his political objective? Frankly, from his strangely maniacal appearance, I wonder if he may simply be mad. Ah – but then, if mad, he would not have been considered fit to plead and stand trial. . .
Two options there, then – either class him as mad, or else declare him sane and persuade him to plead guilty. Either way, there’s (hopefully?) less pressure to reveal the sordid details of the actions of those responsible for this abysmal institutional and political failure.
Questions, questions, so many damnable questions . . .
Terrorist terrorise. They don’t need to have a political objective.
“They will agree with me that violence, and incitement to violence, were deplorable reactions to what had taken place and that a police response was entirely appropriate.”
Who “they”?
Let’s pick at that. Who incited the violence? The killer? The “authorities” by their clear lie-telling? Yes. Yes.
Police response appropriate? But not appropriate when Muslims attack a pub or scream hatred and abuse at Jews.
Had there been a statement: “alleged” killer was son born in the UK, living in Cardiff, born to parents legally settled from Rwanda, police are investigating motives.
There would have been no “deplorable reactions” – is that too difficult to consider for some? How would that have jeopardised a trial?
They didn’t release details to avoid “unrest” – how did that work out? And why would they imagine the truth would cause unrest?
If a perpetrator is White and assigned “Far Right” status (automatic) police and authorities fall over themselves to announce this and further assign “terror-linked” or “thug” labelling. But this won’t affect a trial?
Was the violence deplorable reactions – if the political class is out of control, if the police, judicial system, Governing class cannot be trusted, lies, operates two-tier system – pray tell what reactions are left for the citizenry – compliance, servitude? Do have a look at history.
The truth is – the great multi-culti experiment is an abject failure, a danger and the goon-squad is hunkered down in their last redoubt of denial, obfuscation, excuses, lies, aggression to any who challenge.
“… that there really has been a failure – somewhere”.
Somewhere? Somewhere!
1997 and New Labour and its policy of flooding the UK with all the dross of hellholes on the planet to “rub the Right’s nose in multiculturalism”.
“Our pressing task is to try to figure out exactly what it was so that we can put it right.”
We already know the answer to both – what Trump is doing.
Stop press. Apparently it’s been solved. It’s all the fault of Amazon because he ordered his knives on-line. But Amazon won’t deliver knives unless the delivery service can confirm age/ID of recipient. The same as in a shop.
The Government spinners have been in touch with the MSM – distract, move on.
Much appreciated.
It was definitely the knife’s fault. Pencils also misspell words and spoons make people fat.
The call to strengthen the rules on knife purchases is a pathetic attempt at distraction.
Every single household in the country has several knives already. If he couldn’t order one then he’d simply have got one from his own kitchen.
Look out for the incoming ban on metal utensils etc and the enforced use of bendy plastic (recycled) or rounded wooden / bamboo utensils – to protect the public, of course.
I think he has gone too far this time. You could see his discomfort when he was attempting his fancy footwork in answering questions. He wants you to forget the timeline, the context, the antecedent events, the concurrent events. It was dreadful to see those poor innocent working class people getting locked up and their sentencing on full public display. A sense of horror that the British state would do this. They did it to Assange in full public view then they did it to you. My impression is that there is now a visceral revulsion for Starmer and his cadre of neoliberal freaks with nasal voices.
We can only hope he gets his comeuppance, would love to help!
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Starmer has one dimension morally speaking: Cowardice.
Earlier today, an Afghan asylum seeker who had already undergone psychiatric treatment for violent attacks on other people at least three times in the past but apparently, wasn’t otherwise punished for this, made a knife attack on a group of kindergarten kids in a park known to the (German) police as “dangerous place” (but probably not to the general public) in the German town of Aschaffenburg, killing a little girl and a bystander who rushed to help and wounding several other people.
Can anybody perhaps see a pattern here?
Some more details: The man had supposedly ‘fled’ to Germany in November 2022. About 1½ month ago, he had notified the German authorities that he wasn’t seeking asylum any longer and wanted to return voluntarily to Afghanistan. German authorities than reportedly ‘asked’ him to actually leave.
“he likes to alienate, sneer at and prosecute those whom he thinks to be his political opponents or whom he perceives to be in some sense deplorable..”
That must be the 80% of the electorate who didn’t vote for his state-cabal.
“We’ll ramp up criminal justice…”
I think Dr McGrogan is absolutely right: this was/is the agenda behind KS’s actions after the Southport killing (if it ever really happened and wasn’t a false flag/psyop event for this very purpose, which some think it may have been – I am interested to see that no comments here appear to entertain this perfectly possible idea!).
Considering the similarities between this and the attack in Germany and the relatively novelty of the action itself — Why do knife attacks on little girls? If the motive of that wasn’t spread fear among the population, ie, a classic terrorist attack, it’s hard to imagine what it could have been – if think false flag can safely be ruled out.
I strongly suspect that there’s some organization looking for muslims with a history of deranged behaviour and violence online and teaching them about effective targets for future attacks of theirs. I also suspect that this is known to the authorities (both in Germany and the UK), but that they consider it an unavoidable and ultimately, tolerable side effect of their immigration policies. Perhaps even a desirable side effect, because – as Keir Charmless has just demonstrated – the events themselves can be used to justify more internet censorship to crack down on largely imaginary “far right terrorists”, which, in practice, means go after the victims of such attacks insofar they dare to express opinions critical of the mentioned immigration policies.
The perfidy of all of this is noteworthy: It looks very much like the handwriting of the Corona/ climate change/ critical whatnot theory global ‘actionists.’
Yes, that makes sense, you are probably right. But oh the perfidy, as you rightly say!
Just another vile mediocrity in a position of power who thinks the plebs can’t be trusted with the truth.
Answers on half a postcard
Starmer stood at the No.10 podium, leaning on it as a lawyer would in a Hollywood movie, and blatantly LIED to the British people about the imperative of him (and the police) saying NOTHING about the murderer in order to get a trial and conviction.
We are routinely told limited information about (a) the suspect (b) the individual charged before a trial commences. Details of evidence are not released for the obvious reason, but basic FACTS are.
Last year, the Establishment and this appalling man were DESPERATE to suppress the FACTS. And they were prepared to demonise and jail basically harmless people in order to do it.
THAT’s what’s wrong with this country. The Establishment has created a ticking time-bomb with decades of mass immigration and is desperate to stop the explosion. The only way they can do that is to target the “restless Natives” – particularly the white working class who are suffering the most from the Establishment’s failed multi-culti policy.
Agreed!
Yet when the MP Jo Cox was murdered the details were fully disclosed within a very short time and nobody thought anything of it. Her killer’s trial went ahead and there was no collapse.
How very odd that Failure Starmer didn’t know this!
I doubt I have ever read such a devastating indictment of ANY politician in over 60 years. This article pierces the heart of all that is wrong, that is sick about our rulers, and none more so than the corrupt, double dealing, naïve and disgusting toolmaker’s son currently lurking in Downing Street.
We can only hope that it will not be for long.
Bravo Dr McGrogan!
What Starmer’s speech after the Southport protest did, while ensuring people were cowering under his power to ensure they are jailed for legal protest, was to demonstrate what a despicable ar**hole Starmer is and how he is prepared to missuse his position as Prime Minister. He shold not be allowed to act in this way and if we had a proper constitution of human rights as America has, his actions of facial recognition etc. would be illegal. The main problem with Starmer and the most of the Labour party is that they support Islamists because that is where much of their electoral support is. This also shows part of the reason that Labour resists a proper report into the Islamists raping our children and why Tommy Robinson is being illegally treated by our corrupt legal system. I only hope Elon Musk’s legal team can expose and correct that situation.
Lee Rigby, Keith Palmer, Jack Merritt, Saskia Jones and others. Does Starmer believe these come under the category non terrorist incidents
Starmer. Just when you thought we’ve had the final example of a string of useless Prime Ministers who serve Davos and destroy our country with a big smile…..
Your penultimate paragraph, especially that after ‘…..the wreckage of contemporary Britain…’ resonates. With Harmer, Peeves, and Minibrain in the wheelhouse, will the ship of state avoid the beckoning rocks?
Starmer displays the traits of a sociopath. He certainly appears to have a visceral hatred for many British people.