Creating a two-tier society where freedoms and opportunities are contingent on whether or not you have received a novel (and not fully tested or licensed) vaccine, and having to reveal that fact to strangers, was never a sound approach from a civil liberties point of view. But as the evidence grows that the vaccines do not prevent infection or transmission, the medical case against this new medical apartheid falls apart as well.
The Covid vaccines were originally intended to protect the vulnerable from serious disease and death, following which life could then return to normal. At some point, though, a new idea emerged: that everyone (including children) should be vaccinated, not in order to protect themselves (their risk was low) but to provide further protection to the vulnerable. Similarly, the idea appeared that the fully vaccinated should have freedoms that the unvaccinated did not, because they were no longer able to transmit the virus.
It’s becoming increasingly clear that this idea is incorrect, and the vaccines do not meaningfully prevent infection or transmission, particularly from new variants. Yesterday, Lockdown Sceptics reported on the new data from Israel showing that the effectiveness of the Pfizer vaccine against infection had dropped to 64% during the current Covid surge, down from 94% the previous month. (Effectiveness against serious disease as a result of becoming infected held up much better at 93%.) Public Health England has already reported that the effectiveness of the AstraZeneca vaccine has dropped to 60% against the Delta variant. Even these new lower figures may be overestimates, since Israel reports that 55% of new cases are in fully vaccinated people, and since 60% of the country is fully vaccinated this suggests the vaccines are doing very little to prevent infection (a vaccine efficacy estimate on those raw figures would give just 18.5%).
There have also been major outbreaks in highly vaccinated countries like Bahrain, Seychelles, Maldives and Chile.
Underlining the point, the Swiss Doctor has highlighted a case where “a vaccinated Israeli caught the Indian variant in London, infected another vaccinated person in Israel, who infected another vaccinated person, who infected about 80 students at a high school party”.
To some, the idea that the vaccines do not prevent infection or transmission comes as no surprise. As Peter Doshi wrote in the BMJ in October, the trials were not designed to establish this. Furthermore, the vaccines do not produce mucosal IgA antibodies, which have been shown to play a crucial role in fighting infection in the early stages.
Time for governments to abandon the idea that vaccination provides meaningful protection against infection or transmission, and thus any idea of vaccinating people to protect others, or conferring privileges on the vaccinated, including for international travel, as though they will no longer spread the virus.
Governments should make clear that vaccination is purely for personal protection, and therefore also a personal choice in regard to personal risk. There is no social obligation to get vaccinated to protect others, no benefit to vaccinating children, and no warrant for restricting the freedoms and opportunities of the unvaccinated or imposing on them extra costs such as quarantine.
Some will argue that this ‘failure’ of the vaccines means we need to continue restrictions in some form, possibly indefinitely. Indeed, most alarmingly, SAGE appears to believe this. In minutes from April, published this week, the scientific advisers state: “Ongoing baseline measures and sustained long-term behavioural change will be required to control a resurgence in infections.”
The Government has already conceded that local lockdowns (or tiers) may return with new variants that evade vaccines and that it has retained emergency powers for that reason.
But this is the wrong conclusion. The correct conclusion is that by vaccinating the vulnerable we have done what we can to protect them. Indeed, by imposing restrictions on the whole of society for over a year now we have gone above and beyond what it is reasonable to impose on people in the hope of providing some additional protection for some people. Now they are jabbed we must return to normal and end the state of emergency, end all restrictions both in law and guidance, all restrictions on international travel, and cease all threats of re-imposing restrictions nationally or locally. Now that it is clear that vaccines don’t meaningfully prevent infection or transmission we must end all suggestion of special privileges for the vaccinated, and all obligation to be vaccinated to protect others.
The vaccines are imperfect, but we must accept we have reached the limit of what can reasonably be done to protect people – though we should certainly put more effort into finding and approving effective treatment options, especially cheap, repurposed drugs like ivermectin and fluvoxamine, just as we should have done from the start. We can develop booster shots targeting new variants, but like flu vaccines these are likely to have limited effectiveness and it is not reasonable to continue restrictions while we wait for these to arrive.
Time to accept we have done all we reasonably can and more to protect the vulnerable and return to living as a free people once again.
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I cannot say that i will never have this jab, esp if it becomes conditional for employment, but I am very glad i have resisted so far. It is not easy.
Of course it isn’t about “this” jab, it’s about the indefinite number of injections they come up with henceforth.
Precisely! A never ending gravy train. Who cares if they don;’t work or even kill and maim people, they still make the same profit. See Bill Gates for details.
I’m still holding out. My only challenge is travel but as Portugal is on Amber, I’m expecting my airline to cancel anyway…
But the social pressure us immense. I don’t know a single other person who has not had it. It’s making me question myself. But I know I am right
We’re all here, Kid. You’re right. Have no fear.
My partner and I personally know 19 people (adults, all over 30, except for one 20 year old) who have refused and will continue to do so. And that doesn’t include the 30 or so people I see at STIP, none of whom have had it. So yes, we are a minority, but we are here.
We are home ed’ing out kids (always have, its not a C19 thing) and amongst the other home ed’ers there are a lot who are totally against vaccination. Might be that anyone who home ed’s is already thinking outside the box.
Anyway, if vaccinating kids goes ahead next autumn and schools are getting arsey about it (which it looks like they will), the home ed community is expecting a big influx.
Oh good! Crisis, opportunity and all that. If the end result of all this is that we get a real opposition to the Bond villains trying to take over the world, at least some good has come of this shambles.
See if you can find a local Stand in the Park group, you’ll find plenty of non-vaxxed there. I only knew one other person who had not been vaxxed until i started going and now i know at least 20!
There’s probably loads of people who SAY they’ve been jabbed but decided not to risk it.
Good point hadn’t thought of that one.
Personally, I rather like the opportunity to prove that I am not one of the Homo Non Sapiens.
In the two SITP groups I attend, I reckon there are 50 who haven’t had the jab. You are not alone (although I know it sure as hell feels like it most of the time!).
Carry on holding out.
Lots of us have refuse the jab.
I agree the social pressure to comply can be immense.
Keep you head up & stay strong.
There are more of us than the government even realise. Keep your pecker up and be proud to be part of the brave control group!!!
You ARE right.
SANITY IS NOT STATISTICAL.
And even if every person in the world, apart from us, asserts that two and two make five, two and two still make four.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/censored-covid-vaccine-victims-demand-answers-private-facebook-group/
Read this, if you’re still unsure.
Most people I know, not including my family, have been vaccinated. All have been ok, as far as I know, bar one, who’s had two two-week hospital stays with blood clots affecting various organs.
I assume you weren’t at the London freedom march on 26th June Kid! Had you been, you’d have met circa 500,000 people who haven’t had it!
On a more serious note, it’s fine to question yourself and, I believe, it’s also fine to be open minded to the possibility of having the jab(s) in the future. What matters is that you have it – or don’t have it – becuase you believe that’s the right thing to do and is in the best interests of your personal health. I know lots of people who’ve had it that didn’t want it and only did so because they were duped into thinking it was their civic duty, or that it would protect others. or help to get society to a point where restrictions would be lifted sooner than they otherwise might, etc., etc. These are all the WRONG reasons to be jabbed and many of these people will be seriously pi$$ed off as and when they realise they’ve been conned.
No way it was 500,000 (and I was there).
Apologies Hugh. I was going to say 1,000,000 but I thought I’d better be conservative because there’s bound to be someone – even here on LS – who would give me grief if I claimed there were that many!
I can believe a figure around 100,000 but no more. And as for your firstcomment, I was on the march and have had both jabs (I regret it but whatever). I suspect a sizeable number out that Saturday had had the jab even if they won’t admit it.
I sympathise as I am in a similar situation to you, Kidfury. I feel completely isolated from family, friends and colleagues on this issue. Although I have just about managed to put up with and keep my opinions about the masking and other ludicrous rules we have been submitted to largely to myself up until now, I won’t take the “jab” and that is an absolute red line for me. I live in the EU and my family are in the UK so the travel restrictions for the “unvaccinated” might be tough to deal with, but I see it as the lesser of two evils at this point.
My entire circle of friends haven’t. We’ve made a pact. Don’t worry you are not alone.
I just tried to reply but for some reason my comment vanished. I meant to say that I sympathised with you since I (and many others, judging from the comments here) also feel isolated from friends, colleagues etc on this issue. If travel for the unvaccinated becomes more difficult it will be tough for me because I live abroad and my family is in the UK but I also plan to stand firm.
Interesting topic. I personally know 19 people who have been ‘done’, and 10 people who have not been ‘done’. About half of the latter group are determined resisters, prepared to be ‘taken to the camps’. Only one of the group is Covid sceptic, the rest think a real disease has been overplayed for a mixture of hysteria-based/ sinister reasons. Definitely the potential for one or two severe divisions or upsets in the family – with the intolerance coming from Covid zealots.
We haven’t had it but we don’t know any others. Perhaps they just aren’t saying though because of the reaction they may get..
i’m slowly finding peolple who like me will never get the ‘injection’ so don’t give up we are out there [ and here !]
I haven’t and never intend to. Keep on in there my friend you’re doing well I know it’s not easy.
I understand that is is possible not only to get Antibody tests but also T-cell tests (albeit paid for but not at an unaffordable price). If things get nasty, that is our next port of call.
The T Spot test only seems available from a few exclusive clinics. Guessing the private jet brigade have taken that option.
https://privateharleystreetclinic.com/products/t-spot-covid-test £195
Thank you for the link.
Is that T Cell test recognised for the purposes of travel? or anything else for which a vaxx passport is required?
I have Mike Yeadon to thank for not taking the jab – I watched an interview he gave about the virus and the vaccines and he advised people to wait and don’t rush into this decision to have the vaccine just so that you can go to the pub again or go on holiday – he advised people to bide their time and see what happens and then decide whether they still want the jab or not..
I’m glad I took his advice – so far its a no from me and my decision hasn’t changed a jot – in fact the longer this insanity goes on the more I’m sure I made the right decision to decline the vaccine.
Once they inject you with this stuff – they can’t take it out again … there’s no going back.
You last line is correct – and the most horrific part of this.
And worse than that based on what will writes above they seem to be ineffective for the purposes for which they were supposed to be administered – ie if you had had one you seem to have wasted your time and compromised your health into the bargain
Way to sell you the booster, and all the next boosters. In fact the worse it works the more boosters you will need
having a clotting agent AKA the COVID Spike Protein being made in your cells is your post-jab new normal.
Twitter is going to owe Yeadon such an apology when this is all over. And all those hacks who amplified their fake news.
Ditto here. Since Mike Yeadon’s information, the figures for adverse reactions to the experimental procedure have worsened considerably. UK reports 1,403 deaths, 1,007,000 adverse reactions by over 300,000 folk. (Swineflu vaccine was ‘pulled’ after 53 deaths).
Add to the above, the dire warnings by Dr Robert Malone, (inventor and patent holder of mRNA vaccine technology since 1989), and you have a more than persuasive case for hanging fire whilst ‘the jury’s out.’
I’m 72 yrs old.
I shall certainly never let them stab me unless excessive force is applied and I can no longer resist. Mind you, I am retired so it would be harder to punish me.
Until such times as it can be demonstrated to be safe, and all the evidence at the moment shows that it is anything but safe, I will not be having this jab.
There are plenty of medical interventions I would have GREATLY welcomed over the last 20 odd years of my life but, despite making a strong case for them being warranted, the N(o) H(elp) S(ervice) would never make them available to me, and so I had to pay privately for those privileges.
I have, to date, resisted the jab, but at the weekend got a letter from my GP surgery telling me they had noticed I hadn’t had it and to make an appointment in order to do so. So, they seem more than happy for me to have an as yet unproven experimental gene therapy, which if I was to question them about they could likely tell me very little, probably because they will get £12.50 if I roll up my sleeve. I found Sunday’s glorification of the NHS with the reports of the George Cross and “Thankyou day” particularly difficult to bear.
Excellent article Will. I myself am going with quercetin and vitamin D as my safe and effective prophylactics of choice – not that if I was to discuss those with my GPs they would know much about either of those.
where does this twelve pounds fifty go anyway? personal profit to doctors, or do they try and dress it up as something moral?
Anyhow, whilst I do not doubt that there are some decent people in the NHS, I’ll guarantee that there are some who absolutely do not merit the George Cross.
I decided a few months ago that my job is not worth it and have discussed this with my fiancée. I’ll let them try and sack me before taking them to court. I will never let them inject me with this poison.
Glad to hear you’re making a stand. Incredibly, I’ve heard anecdotally of people who have left jobs without a fight because their company has announced a no-jab-no-job policy.
I pointed out exactly this on the BBC this morning: that it will in fact be the jabbed who are wandering about infected and infectious. That it’s not about public health; just control.
Transmission path
Vaccinated -> Young Unvaccinated -> Vaccinated + Unvaccinated
Sorry? Maybe I’m dim (although some would say there’s no ‘maybe’ about it!), but I don’t follow you. Perhaps you would be kind enough to explain?
I think OP is saying that C19 will transmit through unvaccinated youth and then infect both vaccinated and unvaccinated. I don’t see that as a problem. The young will have no problem with it, and the unvaccinated will have (or will soon get) proper wild-type protection. As I see it, it is the vaccinated (excluding those who had already had C19) who will have problems, because they will have much weaker protection.
That may well indeed be the case, and what Mayo meant. But why not, for example: Jabbed -> anyone else susceptible?
Once they all start up their ‘jabbed only’ clubs and yet STILL continue to get it they might actually open their eyes.
Unless of course blindness is another side effect that will emerge in a few months’ time ….
Blindness … LOL.
I should have been clearer. I was referring to the path of the significant mutations.
The significant mutations being the ones that may evade vaccine immunity.
I’ve summarised it further down. down
Medically, if anyone should still be tested, it’s solely the vaxxed.
(I am against THEIR discrimination as such, and I deem all testing to be unnecessary and totally useless as it was sofar and is currently performed- see Achgut.com today.)
We have not just created the variants through this ill-advised mass vaccination beyond the vulnerable, but we have also only created asymptomatic infectiousness through the vaccines, as they artificially suppress the symptoms.
Anyone unvaccinated, without symptoms and not on pain killers always was, is and will be just: HEALTHY!!!!!
And should be treated as such.
Blimey – did it get broadcast?
Oh yes, I do suppose it must have as it was such a pithy comment.
Nah; just a comment on some story or other. By the time I’d left the page, it’d already got a downtick from some beeboid or 77th. I couldn’t be fagged to go back to check on its progress later (is there a shortcut to trawling through all the comments by time of posting? Who knows), but I feel it’s important to have a go now and then.
Hear bloody hear. Will they listen? Will they hell.
I need to track my previous comments. I’m pretty sure that, weeks ago, I wrote something to the effect that the vaccines were not preventing transmission.
I was accused of scaremongering because I pointed out that there was a sharp uptick in the ZOE data which didn’t make sense if the vaccines were providing herd immunity.
You can track your comments via the icon to the right of the “x comments” text. Apologies if you knew this already and I’ve misunderstood you?
Perhaps more worryingly the “vaccines” were not meant to.
The case for every aspect of the coronapanic collapsed from the start
There was never a public health case for granting privileges to the vaccinated, nor a moral one. If vaccines work, it makes no sense to grant privileges to the vaccinated, and it makes no sense if they don’t work.
Not the coronapanic is not about actual public health related measures – it is purely political theatre
Trying to make sense of it on any other basis is futile and risks validating whatever claptrap the govt and others happen to be spouting
Naturally acquired herd immunity plus focused protection was always the only sensible option… how much fucking longer do we have to go through this theatre?
Meanwhile, as you were writing this, Continuity Matt Hancock confirmed a two tier legal system where those who kick against the toxic pricks will be second class citizens with fewer rights.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57733276
More bullying from the government to try to force people to get injected! They can fuck right off!
Just ignore the “advice”.
So how does that work with a) kids who currently don’t get vaccinated or b) those who are cannot take the vaccines?
I’m sure there’s a legal challenge there somewhere.
Also this takes no account of those who have had Covid and recovered and likely have better immunity!
I am long sufferer from serious allergic reactions and then have had the lurgy in 2019. Why would I take their fucking poison?
I will go to the courts if the dictatorship mandate them.
The need to self isolate only applies if you have the app on your phone. If you don’t carry a tracking device or have the app on it how will they know who you have been in contact with. I don’t have one – could have been in contact with countless people who have tested positive for something [if data published in the media is anything to go by] but have never had to self isolate.
And anywhere they makes you scan, I just point my phone and pretend I have the app. Works every time. Anywhere taking details gets fake ones.
Well done Will Jones for putting this item above the line.
Will’s always struck me as the most “hardcore” of the above the line regulars.
On the gene therapies, yes.
You can’t fault Toby on his commitment to free speech and against lockdowns and masks.
I’d never knock anyone above the line over details, if Toby hadn’t started this site I’d have gone under at the start thinking I was the only person in the world against this evil.
True
None of us know whether Toby might have underlying health issues which make his taking the “vaccines” a reasonable decision. And he shouldn’t have to tell anyone if he does either. This forum has kept me going through some dark and lonely moments.
ATL writers should not be immune to criticism, as long as it’s done in a constructive manner.
But agree that Toby should be given immense credit for his efforts to defend liberty and challenge the mainstream narrative.
Debt of gratitude here too.
Me too.
Can we award him a Citizen Knighthood? If HMQ can give the NHS a collective George Medal for being shut, we ought to recognise the real good guys in all this. I can think of several more.
me too,as much as am against the ‘vaccines’ its a life saver to find out there are others out there like me so thank you toby will adn mike yeadon adn everyone here
Or, to put it another way, the one who is thinking with the most clarity
Indeed. Excellent article.
This is one of the articles I’ll keep for when this is over. It’s a great testament to Will Jones’ tireless and measured scepticism on the so-called vaccines.
Welcome to the club, Will.
It was always thus.
To clarify further, there is also zero medical justification for different testing, travel and quarantine requirements, zero for different infection reporting criteria or differing ct numbers to establish that and absolutely effing ZERO justification for the currently most despicable discrimination of ‘no jab, no job’.
oh dear oh dear. The jibbby jabbys are going to lose it
Good luck trying to convince governments AND people that they should only be vaccinating to protect themselves, etc. They’ve won that battle unfortunately…
We’ll see.
The cracks are becoming more visible for everyone who hasn’t decided to look away.
Which us why they want those of
us who are not vaccinated punished for our decision
It’s certainly looking that way.
>The correct conclusion is that by vaccinating the vulnerable we have done what we can to protect them. Indeed, by imposing restrictions on the whole of society for over a year now we have gone above and beyond what it is reasonable to impose on people in the hope of providing some additional protection for some people.
There is one thing left… Just make sure to spread a previous SARS virus around and this provides excellent protection, no need for jabs either.
My wife (biologist) has talked about this, since it was discovered (by, IIRC a German vaccine group) that previous Sars infection provided some protection to Sars-Cov-2. Her immediate thought was, take the existing known coronaviruses, find out which gave useful protection to Sars-Cov-2 without significant downsides (like getting a shuffly nose), and then spray it about.
I guess it would not have been terribly profitable.
Cross immunity. The most feasible reason for the extremely low impact it’s made in the Asia-Pacific region.
Well there’s the “delta variant” which seems to be working very much as a vaccine. Highly contagious but non-lethal, spreading herd immunity without the downsides of any of the not-vaccines
As Evidence Grows That Vaccines Harm and Kill You, the Case for Forcing Them on Populations Collapses
There you go, Will. Your next column headline.
I have stated yesterday already that there could well be a real, despicable and solely monetary ‘case’ behind it:
Imagine they knew, deliberately sowed confusion by demanding only the unvaxxed to be tested, increased uptake hereby, and now (have to) make a U turn, demanding such testing from the vaxxed only, constantly and for good.
A huge money spinner in perpetuity.
The monetary perpetuum mobile, aka Bill Gates’ and George Soros’ wettest dream coming true.
Yes, the fact that the vaccines don’t prevent transmission renders the entire justification for mass vaccination false.
If vaccines prevent transmission then you can arguably use mass vaccination to create firewalls to protect people from the disease, and artificially (albeit far less efficiently) create herd immunity comparable to that provided by natural spread.
But if the vaccine does not prevent spread and only protects against severe outcomes, which is now pretty clearly the case for the covid vaccines, then the case for mass vaccination cannot be made. The only legitimate use for the vaccines is as targeted protection for the specific people for whom their risk from covid is sufficiently large to render it sensible to take the costs and risks of vaccination – a tiny minority.
Mass vaccination is now inarguably a criminal waste of resources.
Interestingly, like the whooping cough vaccine:
https://www.cdc.gov/pertussis/about/faqs.html
To be fair to those who issue the leaflets to potential recipients, they have never claimed that the ‘vaccines’ prevent infection, or transmission of the virus to a third party. The rest of it is political spin, under the NHS banner. They appear to be drugs intended to mitigate the symptoms in those who are vulnerable; not much more than that. However, they are somewhat economical with the truth regarding the risks they cause to those who choose to take it on (the manufacturers are legally immune at present).
Track and Trace failed to work: => More Track and Trace.
Masks failed to work: => More Masks.
Lockdowns failed to work: => More lockdowns.
Vaccines failed to work: => More Vaccines.
I’m beginning to see a pattern here.
The biggest problem has been not enough communist advisors. Definitely need more communists.
Odd, Communism is normally the producer of shortage.
‘Around 5.1 million people are currently thought to be on waiting lists. However, health bosses ‘believe there could be a further 7.1 million who stayed away during the Covid pandemic but who will come forward demanding treatment’
https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/science-health/953208/nhs-facing-biggest-pressure-in-history-with-12-million-awaiting
Get them all into hospital and give them covid as well
I think the Tory ‘free’ marketeers and ‘neo’liberals cornered the market in stupidity and venality – there’s not a lot left to go round.
You are obviously a student of ignoring the carnage Marxism has caused.
Einstein: The definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different outcome.
Will Jones, yet another excellent article from you. Thank you.
So if this vaccine doesn’t protect you from covid and its variants and it doesn’t guarantee that you cannot pass the virus on …. then what exactly is it doing?
It reduces the severity of the symptoms, which reduces hospitalisation and deaths amongst those who catch it and are susceptible.
The headlines all focus on “Delta Cases” – because the actual impacts are now lower than normal flu.
But it does this with far less efficacy than ivermectin, which cost ‘pennies’ and has no side effects.
Any evidence to back that up? Why did so many countries including the UK have spikes when the vaccine was rolled out?
We’re in off season at present, the same as last year. Let’s see how hospitalisations and deaths are looking in three months.
making money for big pharma?
Unless they’ve lost their reputation, with falling sales for other products; who knows? More corporate bankruptcy and reorganisation could be on the way.
This is about behavioural science (the PR name for propaganda), not immunology.
Every step is a foot in the door, and mission creep is endemic.
History shows appeasement never works. There comes a point when you have to say enough, then stand and fight.
How dare you bring a sensible argument into a mad house.
As the only tests on these so-called vaccines supported a small ( 1% increase an Absolute Risk Reduction) in at least one symptom, and nothing whatsoever to do with immunity or transmission, this is not surprising surely. Even the ‘vaccine’ packets have this written on them, even the emergency use was granted with this disclaimer. Its only our freedom loving governments that have ran the psyop campaign telling lies about immunity and transmission.
Just to add a delicious twist to this the French have been investigating the Indian-sourced AstraZenica jabs. It transpires that not only have they not been approved by the EMA, but they have undergone a ‘name’ transplant in both the UK and Canada. So many millions of people , including apparently a certain Mr Johnson , have been jabbed with an unapproved ( EMA) ‘vaccine’. and thus millions are potentially barred from travel under the latest restrictions.
Of course they are all equally useless in terms of the rationale for using them for ‘travel’ restrictions’, but I wonder who will be the first to turn away the UK’s leader.
https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/Questions-raised-over-Covishield-UK-vaccination-and-EU-travel?utm_source=Master+List&utm_campaign=125868118c-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2021_07-06&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_9b5fbe85b4-125868118c-357796174&mc_cid=125868118c&mc_eid=fb17ae8d0a
Spot on – all this chatter about these vaccines almost gives them credence – the ARR is very low across all and the side effects are mounting- I would suggest scrap the entire program before more young people die. Reading about deep pharmaceutical corruption and control over every facet of the medical industry in ‘The Illusion of Evidence-based Medicine’ (a v detailed analysis) makes me more than sceptical about the entire vaccine complex – but especially these ‘emergency ‘ drugs- good luck to those double jabbed. You might need it.
As with all of this stuff, in many ways I hope I am wrong but…do the jabs (I can’t call them vaccines) even prevent serious illness or death, both of which are running at similar levels to last summer. We have an attenuated version of the virus – the
IndianDelta variety – which if more transmissible is also likely to be less deadly. Combine that with summer and the usual seasonal reduction in respiratory tract infections. Hey Presto – lower levels of illness.Timing of the jab roll out could mean there is a coincidental correlation between jabs and reduced death / hospitalisation, but correlation is not necessarily causation.
We could have jabbed a large portion of the population for no good reason.
I’m still resisting the social pressure to have the jab.
Worth considering Portugal; big wave at the beginning of this year, then fell way back down before significant vaccine penetration. Similarly Bulgaria, lowest vaccination rate in Europe, but numbers have collapsed.
Winter infections in the UK peaked around the 26th December 2020, well before the non vaccines (or indeed the lockdown) could have been the cause. This “wave” of “infections” has probably been caused by the “vaccines” depressing natural immunity.
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Much less known, but similar results (no winter wave last year, like other Eastern European countries): Croatia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkVIMZQrqEM&t=2390s
And yet they are looking at mandatory vaccines. Not about a virus.
Antibody testing, for me, looks like a better way. If you have antibodies no need for the vaccine! And probably unlikely to pass it on either! I paid for a test out of curiosity. £50. The minimum for positive antibodies is 0.8U/ml, mine was 150 Well above the minimum. So no need for a vaccine! I might do another test in a month’s time to see if the immunity fades!
I had a single dose of AZ in late April (when I saw some benefit for future travel, and little risk), then a mild adverse reaction, still there after 12 weeks so canned the second. Meanwhile positive antibodies from 4 weeks ago on the same Roche test were 5.0 U/mL (8 weeks after the first dose), so something but not that much, then a few days ago 5.9 U/mL (going up when it should be declining). So it is weird and doesn’t tell me much except that I do regret having had the first dose and no one else in my family is getting any vaccinations, given the latest data. Natural immunity is much better and more reliable than yet more dodgy pharmaceutical products.
Where did you get the test?
There is no chance on God’s Earth or whichever deity you choose including the God Atheism that I’ll be ever having it. The manufacturers made it clear from the start that none of the vaccines were intended to prevent either catching or passing on Covid. They simply do not do that. What they do is invade every single cell in your body: brain, eyes, ears the lot and nobody, literally nobody, know what will happen to you when it goes wrong.
Correct. No one knows in advance, but what we can see is what does happen via various spreadsheets (often published on this site) with lists of real problems, via the American records etc.
Time for governments to abandon the idea that vaccination provides meaningful protection against infection or transmission
Add it to the list. The Tyrants abandoned any scientific fact many months ago!
Remember hands, face, space? Not a lick of evidence for any of it, yet here we are!
Lockdown Tyranny 4EVER. I honestly didn’t see that one coming.
It would be a twist in the tale if all those who took the jab without question end up in serious trouble due to ADE, free floating spike proteins in their bloodstream and Lipid Nano Particles accumulating in their ovaries and testicles wouldn’t it?
It’s only been 24 hours since the BoJo announcement and the deluge of bad news is in full flow. It’s almost as if they planned it this way.
No, never. Your cynicism almost surpasses mine.
It’s quite surprising this is only just news. The Dr Richard Fleming’s presentation goes through all the trial data for the 3 vaccines and shows the Absolute Risk Reduction varies between approx 1%-1.5% LMFAO
These things were always a pointless exercise.
I wonder how the jabbed, true believers are going to react when reality and facts leak into the media discourse? I guess the main objective is to keep a lid on the Infection Fatality Rate AKA the Elephant in the room!
Whilst we are in the process of applying for vaccine injury compensation for my daughter, whose autoimmune conditions were caused by the MMR, I am not anti vax per se. But these are not neutralising vaccines and I am bloody pleased I have resisted which I intend to do until the Norwegians fully license them, which I think is unlikely to happen.
Amazing ignorance by Will Jones: “Israel reports that 55% of new cases are in fully vaccinated people, and since 60% of the country is fully vaccinated this suggests the vaccines are doing very little to prevent infection.”
No surprise there!If all people were fully vaccinated, then 100% of new cases would be in fully vaccinated people.
Yes, they would, because they don’t work.
Will knows that very well.
The point of that correlation is that you would expect a far bigger discrepancy between the two numbers than just 5%age points if the vaccines were efficient, let alone 95/100% efficient, as the cases would then predominantly have occurred amongst the unvaxxed only.
Unvaxxed now: 40% of people, 45% of cases.
If the vaccines were 95% efficient in preventing infection, this would read 40% of people but 95% of cases.
And for the 60% vaxxed, 5% of cases then instead of 45% currently (mathematically simplified, extra for you). Got it?!
Thick as well as stupid.
Go and ask sarge for some advice.
With this article and other evidence in mind, how on earth do Mr Johnson and Mr Javid get away with stating on record the opposite? And how do they get away with coming up with discriminatory policies against those who choose not to take up the offer? It really does get to me. I read the human rights and other legislation that states it cannot be done, yet here we are. The other shocking thing is the apparent number of people who not only support the stance but think those who have chosen not to be vaccinated deserve everything they get! Scary times.
Exploiting Parliamentary privilage, to some extent. If they step outside and say the same thing, the outcome could be different.
I am curious to know how they know that the Israeli infected another who infected another 80 asymptomatically. Has the virus got a tag on it?
With each such baseless statement the dictatorship keeps going.
The infantile moronic population never question anything and so they take it as yet another gospel.
Evidence of VAERS under-reporting?
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242861
I will never bow to this tyranny. I will defend my children.
Well I was Nursing up till last week and taught fuck all.I did witness culling in Care Homes at the slightest symptom.
I was banned from a chain of care homes for advising staff on the contents of these murderous jabs.
It’s easy to resist it’s intuitive.
“The correct conclusion is that by vaccinating the vulnerable we have done what we can to protect them.”
With a snake oil having an ARR of ~1%?
Utter tosh.
About the same protection as masks.
Great article, though. It will be consigned to a locked box, walled up in a monastery and ivy left to grow up the walls.
I refuse to let the psychos inject me with their sh*t, ever. Will Jones is exactly right in his article. Stand strong, Spartacus!
This is horrific – information about the medication to make your blood run cold.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/sXOhZ0ATy5aK/
They call it a vaccine to sucker the, well, suckers in. calling it gene therapy was never going to sell it. The “protect others” narrative has always been to recruit the followers to police the questioners.
The virus/aerosols are much, much smaller than mask fabric weave- never mind the logic, protect others!
I’m perfectly fit and healthy- no you’re not, you’re asymptomatic- protect others!
The “vaccine” contains no viral particles to stimulate immunity- never mind the science- protect others!
I’m keeping fit, eating healthily and getting enough vitamin D- stay indoors, get a takeaway delivered, take no responsibility for your own well-being- protect others!
While the thread of this argument may be correct about the effectiveness of the jab preventing transmission, it feels a bit like the government guff that relies on percentages and the absence of raw numbers to make its case.
When 60% of new cases have been jabbed what is the raw number? Very different if you have 10 new cases than if you had 10,000.
Also, treating all vaccines alike as though the Russian and Chines vaccines were comparable with Pfizer and Moderna seems unusual for LS.
To Will Jones. Please read Drs. Peter Breggin and Fleming’s thoughts about the man made virus. Gain of function work being done in the USA and then moved to Wuhan after Obama ordered it to be shut down. If COVID19 is a man made disease, not from nature, predicting its future is not possible. However, if other doctors are using the IMATH Tx and similar tx’s with good results, one would have thought health authorities would implement ASAP. Just the opposite is happening. Why?
Vaccination of everyone is a means to digital ID and pharma profits. And possibly also the culling of human beings.
Articles written based on the logic of official narratives are so dull and tedious and pointless.
I agree that this is a common sense article from Will. Added to that, we know that vaccine uptake in Europe, is nowhere near what the PTB want it to be, which also makes a mockery of any sort of travel passport. I suggest we do what we’ve been doing for eighteen months. Don’t comply, don’t follow any rules, don’t join in and hopefully watch it crumble.
This letter written by a law firm on to Sir Simin Stevens, Chief Exec. NHS England on behalf of a doctor who has been suspended merely because of his contrarian views is VITAL Reading – indeed it should go viral:
https://www.covid19assembly.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Letter-to-Sir-Simon-Stevens.pdf
Acknowledgement to UK Column for revealing this.
Feel free to disagree with me but I’m convinced the whole idea is to ‘tag’ everyone on the planet with a verifiable ID number, under the auspices of being administered a ‘vaccine’ with traceable batch ID numbers, to combat a ‘deadly’ virus that was downgraded in the U.K. March 2020. Woe betide anyone who won’t submit / commit to, or wants to drop out of the ruthless ongoing control mechanisms. Casualties are very much expected but disregarded and viewed as cannon fodder.
I see this morning that Steve Chalke, founder of Oasis Community Learning, which runs 53 schools across the country, has called vaccination the ‘long term way out of pandemic disruption’ and that it makes ‘all the sense in the world to vaccinate every secondary school student now because it takes 3 weeks for the jab to offer full protection’. He says vaccination must be done to keep the children safe and start September, the new academic year off with a Covid safe start.
What chance have the kids got with some oik like that spreading misinformation?
Somewhere on here I found this, but I’m blowed if I can find where, so – thanks to the original poster..
https://www.covid19assembly.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Letter-to-Sir-Simon-Stevens.pdf
Why did people believe the statistics from the self-serving self analysing drug companies? I expected at the start that the effectiveness of the Covid-19 vaccines would be no better than the flu jab, which is reported to be about 60%. However, there is evidence that the vaccine does moderate symptoms and this is an important benefit above the resistance to infection. I have said many times that a Covid-19 is not a CASE unless it causes symptoms that need treatment. The government are happy to set up a testing industry using billions of £’s of our money to boost the exorbitant profits of all organisations involved, using inaccurate testing equipment intended for laboratory use only and wasting our resources testing asymptomatic people. I’m sure if we set up similar testing resources for influenza during a bad influenza year, we would see similar results in the number of infections. Is that going to be the next excuse for totalitarian action from our government?
Don’t give them ideas!
If they’d spent a mere fraction of the money on ivermectin and the other drugs which actually work we wouldn’t be here now
Great article – thanks. I wish the issue of immunity from previous infection would be discussed more. I, along with all my family have had Covid (and guess what…we’re still alive). Having read numerous studies which prove we should have T-cell immunity, none of us want the vaccine. But the government are just ignoring us in their bid to vaccinate the world….wonder why? If only they’d accept a T-cell immunity test then millions of us could get our freedoms back without having to resort to the dreaded vaccine passport
Perhaps those of us who have recovered from covid should be the only ones to have all restrictions dropped? We do, after all, have T-cell immunity which lasts for decades, probably for a lifetime. My T-cells sleep peacefully with one eye open, in my bone marrow.
I’m weary of explaining to people that yes, I do have antibodies despite not having the jab (I got a test) because, had my body not made those antibodies when had it, covid would have killed me.
The only exception to this should be those who had covid then got vaccinated, because there seems to be some evidence that naturally-acquired immunity might be seriously damaged by the jab.
If the virus continues to circulate then it will continue to mutate, and vaccines will need to be adapted in that event. The important thing is that whether or not vaccines reduce the risk of acquisition they unquestionably reduce the risk of progression to severe disease. That’s a good enough reason for me to continue with top-ups if recommended. If variants are circulating then as a higher risk person (being 70+) I don’t want to be ill if I get one.
Of course it will all come out in the wash, and if there is a monstrous spike in serious disease following freedom it would be wise to re-think.
Good article Will thanks, definitely one of the best you’ve done. Don’t always agree with what you write but I like your style. Cheers