Boris Johnson today told reporters that Covid is “still a very dangerous disease” as he encouraged people to stick with self-isolation when ‘pinged’. “Don’t forget, we will be coming forward with a new system from August 16th,” he said during a visit to Surrey Police HQ in Guildford. “Until then please everyone, stick with the programme.”
He also warned against drawing “premature conclusions” from the dropping coronavirus case numbers, saying:
I’ve noticed, obviously, that we are six days in to some better figures. But it is very, very important that we don’t allow ourselves to run away with premature conclusions about this. Step Four of the opening-up only took place a few days ago, people have got to remain very cautious and that remains the approach of the Government.
The PM’s remarks may be little more than prudent caution, but describing Covid as “still a very dangerous disease” doesn’t tally with the fatality rate, always very low for most of the population at below 0.1%, and now apparently reduced further including for those at higher risk by the vaccination programme. Does Boris not believe the vaccines are effective? If he doesn’t, what was the point of them? The Government needs to sort out its messaging on this.
Beyond messaging, though, why is the Government continuing with plans for Test and Trace beyond August 16th? When do they plan to accept that the crisis is over and cease all emergency public health measures and return us to the way things were in February 2020?
It’s all very well warning about “premature conclusions” but there’s nothing premature about pointing out that the fast drop in reported positive cases in the past nine days (down over 50%) was not predicted by any Government scientists or their models. Even if it doesn’t continue (though it looks like it may, as it has in Scotland) it points to serious problems with their model assumptions about how this virus spreads and who is susceptible.
Sceptics who have been following the data and scientific studies will not be surprised by the fall in infections despite the lifting of restrictions, as there is no evidence that imposing restrictions is necessary to end a Covid epidemic and no evidence that lifting restrictions triggers an ‘exit wave’, which occurred neither in the U.K. last summer nor in the U.S. this spring. Government ministers and scientists, however, may be slower to accept the implication of herd immunity (at least for this season and variant) that the latest fall implies.
Not, though, it seems Professor Neil Ferguson, who was on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme today, backtracking on his claims on July 18th that it was “almost inevitable” that daily cases would climb to 100,000 and distinctly possible they would hit 200,000, giving us a “difficult summer”. Now, apparently, “the equation has fundamentally changed”.
We need to remain cautious, especially with the potential increase in contact rates again as the weather becomes less fine and schools return. We’re not completely out of the woods, but the equation has fundamentally changed. The effect of vaccines is hugely reducing the risk of hospitalisations and death. And I’m positive that by late September or October time we will be looking back at most of the pandemic. We will have Covid with us, we will still have people dying from Covid, but we’ll have put the bulk of the pandemic behind us.
Okay, it’s still a pretty cautious statement, and why wait till October when cases are plummeting now despite ending restrictions? But it’s the first sign of a new tune from the SAGE gloomsters. If the PM won’t listen to us sceptics, even though we’re increasingly being vindicated by events, will he listen to his failed advisers as they change their tune?
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If Pantsdown is optimistic, should we start to worry?
Of course, we all agree that Bozo is still a deadly disease.
It’s never been a dangerous disease for the overwhelming majority of the UK’s population.
At least here in Wales, Mark Drakeford hasn’t scrambled to allow in the more infectious ‘fully’ vaccinated from the US and the UK.
Why do Boris et al think that letting in the people who are most likely to be infectious as a result of ‘vaccine breakthrough’ ,which is now very common in the US (and everywhere else that has high levels of vaccination – every variant being involved not just Delta), is not going to contribute to rising infections in the UK?
I do believe Mike Yeadon said that this would only end when Sage said it would. Looks like October then.
The government is keeping up with this farce in order to get rid of the surplus vaccines purchased, probably preplanned. The vaccines/genetic treatment are in use under emergency authorisation. They need to maintain the “pandemic “ so that the vaccines stay on the shelf otherwise they would have to be removed (as the vaccine has not been properly trialled and tested). It would also appear that the government planned all along to vaccinate the entire population, not just the elderly or vulnerable otherwise they would have purchased just enough to cover the elderly and vulnerable; after all, you don’t cook for 500 people when only 20 are coming to dinner. I am also surprised at the low key news reporting about Fauci and his dealings/emails with research on gain of function at the Wuhan IoV..
Ecohealth Alliance, who had a connection to that institution and research, unsurprisingly have a Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation employee as a science policy advisor! The CEO also was one of the “inspectors “ sent in by WHO to investigate the lab and had to retract his statement that there was no evidence there at the lab linking it to the SARS 2 virus.. our… Read more »
Running scared now as their lies are exposed.
These power crazed psychopaths can’t give up Project Fear…
The penny does not seem to be dropping, I cannot think why its either because the writers are hopelessly naive regarding Boris Johnson and his motives or they can see what is being laid before their eyes but sheer terror and disbelief means they refuse to see it.
Boris Johnson will do everything and anything to keep the Covid terror story going, he is incapable of letting it go, his career is tied to the thing and if its controlling effect on the population goes down, so does his. He loves the thrill of playing God over people’s lives. He will never let this go, not until he has bought the people of this country down to his level, wherby they turn on each other at his bidding. If you don’t believe the orchestrated segmentation of society is underway, can I draw your attention to the uproar surrounding Javid wherby he had to grovellingly apologise for using the word cower to describe the atitiude of much of the population. and contrast this with Michael Gove who has been allowed to get away scot free after calling those who have not had the Covid injection Selfish. So identifying and calling for… Read more »
It seems to me that those who never turn tv on are in a much sane place than those who watch regularly. It isn’t just the news, it’s everything that is broadcast. The television has become a purveyor of propaganda and fear.
We do not own smart phones either so we have never been dogged with NHS ‘information’ or apps to give us permission to enter shops, etc. We have carried on our lives as normally as we can. We have gone wherever we want and when venues have been open we have not been stopped. We don’t go to theatre or concerts anyway because we have found them boring and insidious over the last few years. We do not, however, want to stop others from enjoying their leftwing activities. The problem is many people don’t stop to question why they have to do as they are told in order to have a life. They don’t question that surely this is communist regime stuff. Why don’t they question this and why don’t they just drop the apps and leave their phones at home.
I know it’s a quote in the headline, but maybe we should replace “this is” with “i am” !
Why are restrictions always referred to a cautious?
Both lockdown enthusiasts and opponents alike do this.
In reality, a slow exit from lockdown is cautious in the same way a slow reduction in the number of punches from Frank Bruno is cautious
I feel sorry for poor old Boris, he can’t see the wood for the trees, he’s got his own thoughts and beliefs then the doom mongering from the grim reaper and his mates. He has no one he can rely on.
He is completely responsible for this shitshow
shambles, old bean. 🙂
Yes, this is still a Very Dangerous Disease and appears unlikely to go away. I presume he is referring to the zombies eating his brain?
Just so I understand this clearer, as I am a Covidiot and of very little brain. The pig dictator has had Covid and has had a double vaccination against Covid but has caught covid from being in contact with another double vaccinated person and has had to self isolate.
Can somebody please explain to me (in very simple language as I’m a Covidiot), how effective are these vaccines and why hasn’t the pig dictators own immune system helped him against Covid?
Who is self isolating?
Err Boris after saying he was exempt.
Some French healthcare staff seem to have relocated their moral compass:
Breaking news:
“French hospital workers in Nice have decided to not give the vaccine any longer.”
Dan Ⓥ on Twitter:
https://mobile.twitter.com/nderssonD/status/1419772936349749251?s=20
Fungus the Bogeyman is less pessimistic than Bozo?
Has the sun taken to rising in the west?
The PM is on a personal mission to get everyone jabbed. Ferguson probably doesn’t care about that – he may be confident that more cases can be found come the autumn.
‘Clearly very dangerous’ is a thought clearly shared by the Guardian-look a like English language mag in France called Connexion. Time was it was almost worth reading…
Thought I would share the latest ‘covid fear porn’ article itemising localised anti-pandemic measures employed by local psychotic fascists not content with the national lunatics.
You will note the dangers of ‘amplified music’ and the demon drink, don’t go there….!
https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/Covid-4th-wave-France-Check-mask-wearing-and-other-rules-in-your-area?utm_source=Master+List&utm_campaign=0e5f91fcee-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2021_07_27_2021&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_9b5fbe85b4-0e5f91fcee-357796174
Is there an ‘irony’ deficit on this site?
Great fat gibbering, blubbering, witless, spineless, gutless, communist fraud.
He is farting through his mouth again.
Ahhh, that’s how Savage Jabbage got it. . .
School kids aren’t being tested now that schools out – especially if their parents want to go on holiday. Hence the drop?
You can check for yourself as the testing and “case” stats are here: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing
Only the % positive is meaningful, but no-one publishes that.
While hoping that Ferguson is right on this ….
We’re not completely out of the woods, but the equation has fundamentally changed.
,, it may turn out to be his worst prediction yet.
I’ve been quietly following Geert Vanden Bossche ever since his controversial videos a few months back. The recent decline and increase in cases follows pretty closely the scenario GVB described in the videos. He’s now posted another article on his website and it doesn’t make very pleasant reading.
https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/post/a-last-word-of-caution-to-all-those-pretending-the-covid-19-pandemic-is-toning-down
I herewith reiterate that I will continue to distance myself from those who pretend the pandemic is over or at least toning down as a result of growing herd immunity (HI). I take issue with the way the observations of genomic/ molecular epidemiologists are downplayed and with the fact that immunological data are oftentimes ignored, taken out of context, misinterpreted or not understood. I do not concur with experts who pretend that the pandemic has now started transitioning into an endemic phase and that the virus will eventually spontaneously degrade into yet another common cold CoV that is only of minor concern to public health.
Whatever people think of GVB, he has stuck to his guns… Read more »
Well he’s definitely going to be wrong in the U.S. after December when they bin the PCR test.
You can also bet on Ferguson having prior knowledge of something similar happening over here this autumn/winter.
The NHS will have to change their tests in order to distinguish between common colds and influenza.
The pantless shaman would never pass up on such an opportunity for more soothsaying like that.
Why would they bin the PCR test in the US after December, and not now?
They are transitioning from now.
‘In preparation for this change, CDC recommends clinical laboratories and testing sites that have been using the CDC 2019-nCoV RT-PCR assay select and begin their transition to another FDA-authorized COVID-19 test. CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses. ‘
To what?
‘CDC is providing this advance notice for clinical laboratories to have adequate time to select and implement one of the many FDA-authorized alternatives.
Visit the FDA website for a list of authorized COVID-19 diagnostic methods.’
What happens in America never stays in America.
Do you know whether the alternatives are any more accurate?
South Dakota, Florida and Texas have stayed in America.
They are not binning the PCR test in America, see @baboon’s comment and link above.
They are binning the PCR test:
‘After December 31, 2021, CDC will withdraw the request to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) of the CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel, the assay first introduced in February 2020 for detection of SARS-CoV-2 only. CDC is providing this advance notice for clinical laboratories to have adequate time to select and implement one of the many FDA-authorized alternatives.
Visit the FDA website for a list of authorized COVID-19 diagnostic methods. For a summary of the performance of FDA-authorized molecular methods with an FDA reference panel, visit this page.
In preparation for this change, CDC recommends clinical laboratories and testing sites that have been using the CDC 2019-nCoV RT-PCR assay select and begin their transition to another FDA-authorized COVID-19 test.’
As much as i would wish you are correct, you are not. Read the whole article. If you already have, can we leave the propaganda to others please.
I am not quoting from an article.
‘‘After December 31, 2021, CDC will withdraw the request to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) of the CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel, the assay first introduced in February 2020 for detection of SARS-CoV-2 only.’
https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html
The key words ‘for detection of SARS CoV 2 only’
Tim….not seeking an argument. it’s only the EUA that is being revoked, that test is still listed on the approved list of Molecular Diagnostic Tests.
Read it earlier, cant link just now.
I agree that it is important to be correct here.
All I can do is quote direct from the CDC website.
The influenza/covid combined test will be a PCR test but it will drastically cut down the number of incorrect covid diagnoses, indicated by influenza having ‘disappeared’ this year, only, of course, it didn’t really.
That is a major step forward which will put covid in perspective alongside influenza; a long overdue normalisation, in good time for the U.S. mid term elections, not that that will save them from a fearful drubbing.
‘In preparation for this change, CDC recommends clinical laboratories and testing sites that have been using the CDC 2019-nCoV RT-PCR assay select and begin their transition to another FDA-authorized COVID-19 test. CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses.’
Yes they will be because the mid term elections are 08 Nov 2022.
We have council elections next year so I would be very surprised if the NHS doesn’t move from PCR to mixed SARS CoV 2/Influenza tests this winter as well.
We haven’t seen the libertarian stance of some U.S. States replicated over here yet but some more savage beatings at the polls lie in wait for this government, if only because they cannot get their own vote out.
a sobering read ending with…
Last but not least, it must be emphasized that those calling themselves ‘experts’ while pretending that this pandemic is ‘a pandemic among the non-vaccinated’ are devoid of any scientific insight in the evolutionary dynamics of Sars-CoV-2 as currently shaped by a combination of high viral infectivity and vaccine coverage rates. Neither the vaccinated (who merely believed the vaccine would protect them from Covid-19 disease) nor the non-vaccinated (who simply believe there is no need for them to take the vaccine in order to stay protected) are to be blamed for the escalation of this pandemic. Mass vaccination is the one and only culprit.
I cannot follow much of the unexplained science babble in this text but the following excerpt
But how on earth would a treacherous virus all of a sudden breed descendant variants that are no more harmful than a common cold CoV?
is sufficient to discredit this guy forever insofar I’m concerned as he must know how completely wrong all of the implied factual assertions in this sentence are.
Boris is far more dangerous than the virus ever was, that’s for sure.
Increasingly P.M. Johnson looks like a sinister deranged version of Father Jack, it shows what a state we are in if this monstrous Great Dictator with the appearance of a mad telly tubby is allowed to continue to be in charge of this, one time, mother of the free, that used to be the UK.
oh, Fr. Jack would’ve been far better on this, and he certainly wouldn’t have banned drinking on the tube.
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Turns out it’s a lot further than even I thought- and I’ve been appalled by the sheep like behaviour of people for decades.
Of course it is Boris…have a day off wont yer…
I’ve always thought that Johnson is nowhere near as clever as he thinks he is, despite being able to knock out a few Latin epigrams and working as an ersatz Churchill impersonator. Every piece of garbage that now emerges from his mouth reveals that, as well as being a weak, lying weasel, he is as thick as a brick. His vaulting ego is such that he seems unable to process any simple information or to understand the most basic of concepts. Of course, as a Classicist, basic science and mathematics are below and beyond him, as the financial chaos we now face will amply demonstrate.
I reckon that just about nails it. Although nothing about a classical education inhibits basic scientific literacy/understanding ; the term ‘Renaissance Man’ admits as much, even if specialisation and the growth of knowledge has removed a lot of possibilities from reach.
I think you’re being unusually charitable towards him there, RickH. I can’t believe he hasn’t noticed it’s all nonsense, if for no other reason than his political sense will always be wondering how things will play with the public and media so will keep a watchful eye out for things that are so obvious that even the gullible public and compliant media could call him out on, like the dodgy predictions from Whitty presented last November/December to justify more stringent lockdowns.
Nothing, absolutely nothing will stop the final push to get as many jabbed as possible before the year end. I call the year end as its when the CDC have decided PCRs are no more. Its very clear from co-ordinated efforts in western nations.
Johnson is taking his instructions as part of the ‘club’, his job is not to do anything that would jeopardise his position. So he has put it out that he is relecting to pressure on the gas boiler business and putting that back 5 years. It will please some of his major critics in the Tories and give him the breathing space to see the biotech ID project to a conclusion.
Macron was looking to 31 December for ‘health passes’ laws to encourage jabbing, he has had to temorarily at least concede 15 November; but you see the pattern.
As many have said, there is so much BS about the covid/SARS stats etc , but it makes sense if you work backwards from theultimate aim of biotech IDs and what was required to get there. They see the next 5 months as bringing that to fruition.
SARS2 /covid will be allowed to drop off the radar… Read more »
I call the year end as its when the CDC have decided PCRs are no more.
Sorry peyrole but bad news – the CDC document doesn’t say that, it actually expands the use of PCR for the flu. This was covered by UK Column yesterday:
https://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-news/uk-column-news-26th-july-2021
They are now mandating flu jabs. The next gen flu jabs will be mRNA. SAGE and Fauci are calling for masks forever. By expanding this nonsense to the flu, they can make this go on indefinitely. I would imagine that would also include lockdowns for the flu, all in the name of “saving the NHS”.
The medical tyranny via the passports will result in the Social Credit system. The Chancellor has announced a government crypto which will replace cash. No prizes for guessing if they will link this to the passport or not.
Not had your latest booster and flu jab? Well, sorry, we will have to turn off your UBI payment until you sort that out, you filthy anti-vaxxer.
What’s ironic is that us “conspiracy theorists” have known this was all in the works for years. None of this was a secret, it was all on websites for organizations like the UN,… Read more »
I don’t think we are disagreeing. My point was the drive to get as many jabbed as possible before the drosten Rt-PCR test is abandoned. This will form the basis of their biotech iD system. Of course it won’t stop, it will progress for the dual purposes of control and creating income streams.
“Filthy anti-vaxxer”. The new “filthy Jew”.
That “Nuremberg” quote at the demo was bang on the money.
You are right, of course, regarding the width and breadth of knowledge and learning available even to anyone educated in the Classics, and that has been so throughout history. What inhibits those qualities from being present in this particular individual is precisely that; the individual himself. His chimerical childhood fantasies, apparently going strong in middle age, of being King of the World or the like, now reveal themselves as Dreams of Dictatorship, rather than a benevolent ruler.
I expect that a perceptive and unbiased psychologist could readily identify in him, characteristics he shares with Stalin, that German leader and several other “bad actors” of the twentieth century.
Austrian leader of “Germany”?
II suspect this century will be worse for bad actors. At least some of the 20th century ones had principles of sorts.
I suspect Churchill would have nothing but contempt for Boris and his cowardice and weakness
Churchill was a Georgist and Boris is a feudalist.
I just want him dead and buried and if that makes me a bad person, I don’t care!
“And I’m positive that by late September or October time we will be looking back at most of the pandemic”
That really, really worries me. That twat has been so wrong, so many times, if he says something positive then look out!
Quite.
Most being the operative word.
You’ll still have a full frontal view of vax passports, permanent health surveillance and permanent health passes for international travel.
Other than that, it’ll be mostly over. Hopefully. Well, maybe. Well, let’s see how the numbers look and what SAGE say.
A pity really, for the first time in years, I’d quite like to go abroad. Looks like it may never happen now.
yes, thought the same!
“The PM’s remarks may be little more than prudent caution”
WHAT? No, everything the government has done since March 2020 is RECKLESS, not cautious. They threw the orthodoxy out of the window.
“The Government needs to sort out its messaging on this.”
You mean they need to stop lying? Or just tell different lies, or lie more consistently?
There seems to be this odd ‘Let’s give Boris the benefit of the doubt’ meme infesting some articles.
No! Just pin the long-time fat, lying bastard with his lies and obfuscations!
I would expect better from Will, who I am sure has little time for him.
Also disappointing to see continued stupidity/evil portrayed as “caution”. The whole point of the lockdowns was that they were untried and specifically cautioned AGAINST in all previous planning.
yes, wreckless not cautious. Continued restrictions at this time last year was a disaster, never mind now and seemingly for the foreseeable future.
Why should anyone be surprised? The climate change bill was easily the most ruinously expensive in history, the discredited HS2 rolls on, housing construction has been deliberately suppressed for base political reasons, with disastrous consequences for many. The way we are governed is a scandal, and has been for quite a long time.
They are cautious in the same way that punches from Mike Tyson are healing aids.
Johnson the libertarian will be announcing in August the new social control system.
Vote for Brexit, take back control. He didn’t mention he was referring to himself and his cronies, not the 66 million plebs he rules over.
68 million. Or possibly over 70 million, they really have no idea.
Preparing us for autumn, winter…
I still don’t get it, why would anyone have the app on their phone now unless their boss commanded it?
its quite handy for those who want some time off work to potter about in the garden
Since it’s your personal mobile I’m not sure how a boss could command it? I’d just say I didn’t have enough memory space or no phone anyway
No phone is a good one- the blank looks when you say this are priceless!