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Care Home Workers to Face Mandatory Vaccination

by Michael Curzon
22 March 2021 11:04 PM

Care home workers will be required by law to have a Covid jab, leaked Cabinet plans reveal. And this is just the beginning – the leaked paper notes that similar requirements are currently being considered for healthcare workers, such as those who work on hospital wards. The Telegraph has the story.

Care home workers will be required by law to have a Covid jab under a historic legal change agreed by Boris Johnson and Matt Hancock, the Telegraph can reveal.

Leaked details of a paper submitted to the Covid Operations Cabinet sub-committee last week show that the Prime Minister and Health Secretary have requested the change in law.

Ministers feel compelled to act amid alarm at the low take-up of vaccines among staff in care homes, where many of those most at risk from the virus live.

Only around a quarter of homes in London, and half in other parts of England, have reached the level of vaccination among staff and residents deemed safe by Government scientists.

If the law change is voted through, it is likely that the vast majority of the 1.5 million people who work in England’s adult social care sector would be legally bound to have a Covid vaccination.

The decision, in principle, is without modern precedent. One legal expert said the only comparable UK laws dated from the 1800s, when newborns had to be given smallpox jabs.

Legally forcing scores of workers to get a jab raises huge legal and moral questions. Ministers have previously called similar ideas “discriminatory”.

The Cabinet sub-committee paper warns that a “large” number of social care workers may quit if the change is made, and that successful lawsuits on human rights grounds could be possible. It makes clear that a similar legal requirement is being considered for some frontline healthcare workers, such as those on wards, but no decision on that has been taken.

The key line from this leaked document – which says the PM and Health Secretary intend to make the jab compulsory for care home workers – reads as follows:

The Prime Minister and the Secretary of State [Mr Hancock] have discussed on several occasions the progress that is being made to vaccinate social care workers against Covid and have agreed – in order to reach a position of much greater safety for care recipients – to put in place legislation to require vaccinations among the workforce.

The paper acknowledges that there would be a “high risk” of a successful legal challenge against the change if it was made by secondary legislation (which is quicker to pass).

The prospect of Covid “certificates” has led many to question the extent to which the Covid vaccine is voluntary. Surely this change would prove that the vaccine is mandatory (for some, at least) in all but name?

This looks like a clear breach of the Prime Minister’s promise, made on November 23rd, that no one would be forced to get a Covid vaccination. “There will be no compulsory vaccination. That’s not the way we do things in this country,” he told a news conference.

Worth reading in full.

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Stevey
Stevey
4 years ago

Well that’s my wife out of work then. She already has fertility problems so there’s no way she’s risking this so called vaccine. That’s before we even get to religious and moral objections to the whole thing.

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lutherkehrt@gmail.com
lutherkehrt@gmail.com
4 years ago
Reply to  Stevey

We’re being dragged downwards into a moral abyss.

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
4 years ago

If care home residents have all had the “vaccine” surely it doesn’t matter whether the care home workers have had it? The residents aren’t going to get ill, are they?

Unless, of course the government has been lying to us for three months, the vaccine is a crock of sh1t and doesn’t protect anyone against anything.

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TJS123
TJS123
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

They really need to make their minds up about whether it works or it doesn’t.

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J4mes
J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

No point trying to reason with madness. I’ve said for too long now that arguing against statistics and contradictions is getting us no where. It’s the equivalent of wriggling while being sucked into quicksand or watching an abused dog chase it’s tail in anger.

We need meaningful action and a ‘roadmap’ of our own. Spending each day visiting LS to see compilation news articles has only wasted precious time.

Does anyone know of groups/websites/whatever that is talking seriously about taking on the government forces?

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Agreed, we have won all the arguments about statistics and the criminally pitiful government responses.

Articles like this are just pissing in the wind.

I have been in hospital for over a fortnight, I am in an ITU unit that was part of The Covid section of the hospital during lockdown 1.

About 50% of the predominantly young female staff have an ‘I’ve had my jab’ sticker on their ID badge, ie about half do not.
These were the real frontline staff during the ‘pandemic’ at its height last year.

On any given day I am the subject of up to 14 different medical interventions including specialists from every area of the hospital bar maternity and paediatrics. The 50/50 split is fairly consistent be they Consultant Radiologists, Health Care Assistants, Palliative Care Practitioners or in
Domestic/Catering.

These frontline heroes have clearly made their choice so WTF is bozo or anyone else forcing them to change that ?

(I do not post this to elicit sympathy and will not participate in a thread about my health, but for the curious I have been compelled to go along with LF tests on alternate days (everyone negative every time), patients do not to wear masks on their own ward but for staff it is ubiquitous.
Hand sanitiser everywhere including the end of my bed, uptake about the same as in supermarkets.

Apart from me this is a high turnover unit with 5 or 6 beds out of 8 being re-occupied each 24 hours; I witness little or no Covid Avoidance Syndrome, just wheel ’em in and wheel ’em out as might be usual

I have only been asked in passing whether I have been vaccinated; when I reply ‘no’ I am usually advised, off the record, to keep it that way as any side effects might disrupt some of the many investigations currently taking place on/in me.

On a lighter note each splendidly isolated bed has a TV gantry above it which I believe allows free access to BBC1 and some radio stations, not a single patient has bothered so far.

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Mitch
Mitch
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

An obviously false story. Why make up such rubbish?

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Mitch

Well – as a chronic frequent flier (if not a permanent inmate), with experience across a variety of specialisms over the past year, I can say that the description is entirely accurate, with hospital staff bludgeoned into a conformity over pointless and inconsistent gestures, such as PCR testing. Fear and group-think.

And I’m certainly not one of the hobby-horse riding anti-NHS brigade. I get the excellent treatment that I get and see what I see.

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LMS2
LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  Mitch

And how do you know it’s false?
It sounds entirely plausible to me.

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SueJM
SueJM
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Thanks so much for this ‘alt front line’ view, Karenovirus. It’s really good to know of the 50/50 split as generally they’d have us believe that we are in a tiny minority. Best of luck.

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Matt Mounsey
Matt Mounsey
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

How about standing outside your house and clapping for the hero health workers that refuse to take the jab? I’d be up for doing that.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Matt Mounsey

I sont think they are doing it to be heroes. They are doing what they think is best for their families given the paucity of information available.

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lutherkehrt@gmail.com
lutherkehrt@gmail.com
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Sounds like you’re on an AAU.
I do wish that more hospital staff would ensure their hands, at least, are clean.

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marebobowl
marebobowl
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Read the Haet Group, Panda data, dr. Mercola’s website, the Children’s defense reports, Del Bigtree’s Highwire for starters.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

I reported In January about two local care homes having their first Covid outbreaks after vaccines were rolled out.
As predicted here on LS the supposedly scary Kent mutant might indeed have been more infectious but it was also less harmful.

In both homes some residents were infected but all were treated in their rooms (ie not hospitalised) and most recovered except for a few who were, according to staff, at deaths door anyway.

In both homes some staff developed symptoms and were sent home to isolate ( and their children and elders), all made a speedy recovery and were left wondering what the fuss was all about.

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marebobowl
marebobowl
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Four Devon care homes. Residents COVID vaccinated, quite a few died post vaccination, but local,health authority put it down to coincidence. That must be very reassuring for,the family!

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LMS2
LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Sounds like the same experience in my mother’s care home, or so I was initially told. They lost one resident at the time (hardly an unusual occurrence in normal times), but subsequently, after the vaccine was given to all the residents (not to my mother, who I’d been told three weeks before has tested positive), they apparently lost another 12….

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

“the vaccine is a crock of sh1t”

They seem to be doing everything to demonstrate that this is the case.

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Silke David
Silke David
4 years ago

after watching that BBC propaganda earlier, after which I felt like vandalising BBC property, I am now thinking how I can acquire a small gun to shoot those bastards!
Life in prison can not be much worse than what we are experiencing now, anyway.

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J4mes
J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

Only way to hurt the BBC is to cancel your licence with them.

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Silke David
Silke David
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Already done.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

Likewise, 15 or more years ago.

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Matt Dalby
Matt Dalby
4 years ago

Sadly this is likely to be the thin end of the wedge. Once vaccines become mandatory for certain groups it will be much easier to add other groups e.g. teachers, the police etc. to the list. The government knows that mass mandatory vaccination would be highly unpopular if introduced in one go, so they’re going to introduce it gradually and hope the opposition to many small steps is less than the opposition to one large step.
Hopefully enough care home workers will continue to refuse to be vaccinated so that they can’t all be sacked without leaving homes dangerously understaffed.

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

After the year most care home workers have had I can imagine that life on the dole must seem pretty attractive by now.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

I always thought they would roll out chip’n’track for paedophiles followed by other criminals; next would be teachers and those in health care ‘since you never know’ after that it would be anybody already required to have a Vetting And Barring Agency (CRB as was) check and the ‘vulnerable’ adults and Dont Forget The Children they need protecting too !

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Mitch
Mitch
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

You are clearly nuts, so I wouldn’t worry about it too much.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Mitch

Looks like 77th Brigade are getting desperate for credible posts!

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Wasn’t there a colonel called ‘Mad Mitch’ in Aden? Perhaps he’s retired to a desk job with the 77th.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

Indeed – the phrase “softly softly catchee monkey” comes to mind rather. So it’s now clear that the Government was indeed the guilty party for wanting enforced jabs (just as I, for one, suspected was the case) by saying “Oh….no…WE aren’t ordering care home staff to have the jab. That’s something the employers are doing. OUR hands are clean” and hoping that employer blackmail/peer pressure would do the job for them. Now they’ve seen that those two (slightly more subtle) tactics haven’t worked on many careworkers – the Government has been flushed out and had to admit what they were hoping to get away with keeping quiet (ie those enforced jabs are their choice/their fault).

First rule of management/government/devious people who want to be “head of the household” in their own shared home is to never admit you are determined to have your way, but are hoping to get it by going via the back door and playing softly/softly.

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Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
4 years ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

Low wage, hand to mouth, unorganised, low statuss, lower educational attainment. Hit them first then work through other groups like dominos.

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marebobowl
marebobowl
4 years ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

Once people aware of all the adverse events and deaths post vaccination the light will go on. If Norway and Sweden will not administer AZ vaccine, they must have a pretty good darn reason.

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LMS2
LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

The advice from the pharmaceutical companies is for women who might be pregnant (or thinking about getting pregnant) not to have the vaccine. Quite a lot of the care home workers are going to be young women.
This is a truly dreadful and tyrannical mice by Hancock and Johnson. The pair of them should be booted out of office. They are dangerous.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago

These bastards should in jail. How the eff have we got to this situation? But they had better watch out with their sick plan. Check out LaworFiction https://www.laworfiction.com They haven’t really got a leg to stand on…unless people consent to this madness.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.
Mandatory vaccination, that is.
PS: I’ve had it but that was MY choice.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

Of course – that is precisely the moral issue.

And, as said before – there’s no middle ground : you’re either on the side of Mengele and Goebbels or that of civilisation.

That’s not a choice – that’s an imperative if you want to remain human rather than become a shivering knuckle-dragger.

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alw
alw
4 years ago

Watch the care home system collapse.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  alw

You may well be right. Certainly – if I were a carehome worker (not a job I would ever have done myself – as I know my limitations and wouldnt put up with that pay) then I’d now be hanging on in there as long as I could with excuse after excuse after “convenient illness” keeping me off accidentally-on-purpose on Jab Day and saving my money in case of an unfair dismissal and checking out whether I could sue them for unfair dismissal. Then I’d be looking for a different type of job from there on in.

Of course – it may well be that the Government actively wants the carehome sector to collapse. After all – they are paying (via local Councils, etc) for much of the cost of keeping the public sector carehomes going. Also they certainly are paying for all carehome residents to get whatever medical treatment they require (and it’s likely to be quite a lot for many in that agegroup). After which – the Government will plead innocence and state all those carehome closures are totally unexpected/not their fault and wash their hands of the resultant mess.

Basically – after all that stuff about us all being trapped in Lockdown being to “save Granny” – but the Government has either been planning to kill Granny all along or, at the least, is being a tad disingenuous (as they couldnt give a darn for Granny – but I bet you some grannies have seen them coming on this one and some of them will be wily old birds and with no intention of being “accidentally” bumped-off).

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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

What a surprise?

Last edited 4 years ago by BJs Brain is Missing
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Apache
Apache
4 years ago

What’s with all the guilt about care homes? Yesterday they introduced mandatory testing in care homes and today it gets released that there will be mandatory vaccinations.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-lateral-flow-testing-in-adult-social-care-settings/testing-for-professionals-visiting-care-homes

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Ross Hendry
Ross Hendry
4 years ago

As usual with politicians on walkabout in hospitals, Hancock and Johnson relish the opportunity to roll their sleeves up and stick their ties into their shirts, thus vaguely implying they are busy medics on call (photo above). I blame Blair (for most things) – he started this kind of photo-op/PR move.

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A Heretic
A Heretic
4 years ago
Reply to  Ross Hendry

they just look fucking stupid. Who wears a shirt/tie like that?

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Ross Hendry

It’s a load of rubbish from the MRSA scare about 20 years ago when they thought doctors’ cuffs and ties could spread it. A lot of doctors stopped wearing ties at the time ostensibly because of it, but according to a doctor acquaintance of mine it was all nonsense and they just didn’t want to wear ties.

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Fiona Walker
Fiona Walker
4 years ago

They daren’t insist on the whole medical profession having it because powerful consultants. Go after the low paid, powerless key workers instead. Many of whom will be BAME so perhaps a case of indirect discrimination could be made.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago

Mengele lives in Toryland!

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Burlington
Burlington
4 years ago

I need a new conspiracy theory. Most of mine have come true….

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Peter W
Peter W
4 years ago

OMG, do you mean Johnson lied on Nov 23rd about no compulsion?
Who would’ve guessed!

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Peter W

Didn’t that nice mr Hancock say live on telly that the government had no plans to introduce compulsory vaxxing?

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TheBigman
TheBigman
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

It’s all in the wording. No ‘plans’ for compulsory. They will simply say that they didn’t plan it but we ‘need’ it.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  TheBigman

Was intended as sarc, clue being calling mr hancock ‘nice’.

Last edited 4 years ago by karenovirus
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LMS2
LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Didn’t that nice Mr. Hancock tell Parliament that there’d been a study that showed no difference in infection severity or recovery in patients with low Vitamin D levels, i.e. Vital D makes no difference….and there had been no such study.

Didn’t Mr.Hancock weep on tv over the death of his beloved stepfather, who he’d been very close to…except it was his stepfather’s ex-wife’s second husband…

Hancock is a barefaced liar, and so is Boris.

Last edited 4 years ago by LMS2
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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  LMS2

Agreed and so do many that still listen to the twats and yet somehow continue to believe them.
Much like medieval peasants agreeing with whatever their parish priest told them despite doing so in a language, Latin, that the serfs did not understand.

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TheBigman
TheBigman
4 years ago

Enjoy your mandatory gene therapy, scum!

This makes my blood boil. This is truly the beginning of the end.

If this is accepted in any way then please note that ALL of us will be next. Not just for covid (tbh it’s a massive over reaction) but for everything and anything they want.

Connect the dots:

Extended ‘decree’ powers to the govt.

Police (state) Bill given powers beyond their remit.

In Scotland the ‘hate’ crime Bill. (don’t think for a second that this bill won’t be twisted to suit whichever narrative being spun).

Then, most worryingly, add the above to the (defeated, for now) Named Persons Act in Scotland. Where a state appointed official is given as the child’s guardian. Imagine vaccines would be a hot topic for them.

BAD BAD BAD BAD TIMES.

PUSH BACK NOW!

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marebobowl
marebobowl
4 years ago

Mandatory vaccinations of a experimental biological is outrageous, unethical and must be stopped. I beg Lord Sumption and other legal experts to get involved and fight this effort to mandate COVID vaccines for care home frontline staff mandatory. These experimental biologicals have no long term safety and efficacy data. They have not been trialled on pregnant women, they are still in trial! What the hell does this incompetent gov’t thinks it is up to. The CDC VAERS data as of March 5th 2021 shows 1,550 deaths from COVID vaccines and thousands of significant adverse events. This MUST STOP! I would encourage all frontline care workers to leave their jobs and find other employment. Your country does not value you and here is your proof.

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lutherkehrt@gmail.com
lutherkehrt@gmail.com
4 years ago

I’m afraid this is simply evil. How can the residents be at risk when practically 100% of them have been vaccinated? Do we have compulsory vaccinations for any other diseases far worse than COVID-19? Of course not. There is something evil going on with this whole thing that this world has not seen before.

Care Staff are NOT responsible for what happened in care homes, or in private homes – the government and the NHS (authorities) are. And, remember the prophetic words of Pastor Niemoller:

“First they came for the Care Home workers, and I didn’t speak up because I’m not a Care Home worker. Then they came for the bus drivers, and I didn’t speak up because I’m not a bus driver. Then they came for the doctors and I didn’t speak up because I’m not a doctor. Then they came for the shop-workers, and I didn’t speak up because I’m not a shop-worker. Then they came for the [insert your job/role], and there was no-one to speak up for me.”

Last edited 4 years ago by lutherkehrt@gmail.com
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stickwhistler
stickwhistler
4 years ago

The United Nations General Assembly Resolution 1514 (1960) states that:All peoples have the right to self-determination; by virtue of that right they may freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development.

  • https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/1992/18.html
  • SCROLL down to para 39 and note para 40
  • JUSTICE BUTLER-SLOSS: I gratefully adopt the summary of facts set out in the judgment of the Master of the Rolls, which I have read in draft, and I respectfully agree with the general propositions of law which he lays down.
  • A man or woman of full age and sound understanding may choose to reject medical advice and medical or surgical treatment either partially or in its entirety. A decision to refuse medical treatment by a patient capable of making the decision does not have to be sensible, rational or well-considered (see Sidaway v. The Governors of Bethlem Royal Hospital [1985] AC 871 page 904-5). I agree with the reasoning of the Court of Appeal in Ontario in their decision in Malette v. Shulman et al. [1991] 2 Med.L.R. 162, (a blood transfusion given to an unconscious card-carrying Jehovah’s Witness). Mr. Justice Robins J.A. said at page 166:
  • “At issue here is the freedom of the patient as an individual to exercise her right to refuse treatment and accept the consequences of her own decision. Competent adults, as I have sought to demonstrate, are generally at liberty to refuse medical treatment even at the risk of death. The right to determine what shall be done with one’s own body is a fundamental right in our society. The concepts inherent in this right are the bedrock upon which the principles of self-determination and individual autonomy are based. Free individual choice in matters affecting this right should, in my opinion, be accorded very high priority.”
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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  stickwhistler

As posted previously I am currently in hospital for entirely non-covid reasons.
I am receiving excellent care and attention despite a central plank of my stay being my refusal to accept certain surgical interventions.

All the medical staff have accepted this quite readily and are making concerted efforts to progress in other directions.

I know that I am not regarded as one of the ‘awkward squad’ on the ward because, if I time it correctly, they are happy to allow a Health Care Assistant to wheel me outside for a cigarette now and then despite this being ‘against trust policy’.

Perhaps they are trying to use my refusals as a form of precedent for when the knock comes on their door.

Last edited 4 years ago by karenovirus
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