Of the many myths that have taken hold during the pandemic, perhaps none is more central than that the Government was caught out by Covid with no idea about how it ought to respond. Thus the extreme and unprecedented response of lockdown appears to many to be justified by this notion that ministers had little choice but to ‘play it safe’, and the subsequent experiments in social restrictions as we awaited and delivered a rushed vaccine and beyond are imagined as a heroic voyage into the unknown of how a government ought to respond to an ‘unprecedented’ disease.
In fact, though, the Government had a plan for what it should do, the U.K. Influenza Pandemic Preparedness Strategy 2011, and COVID-19 was well within the bounds of what the plan anticipated. As Dr. Noah Carl has noted, this was the plan the Government was following until mid-March 2020, with SAGE re-affirming at a meeting on February 4th 2020 that officials “should continue to plan using current influenza pandemic assumptions”.
While the strategy was focused on influenza, it expressly anticipated the possibility of a new SARS virus:
A pandemic is most likely to be caused by a new subtype of the Influenza A virus but the plans could be adapted and deployed for scenarios such as an outbreak of another infectious disease, e.g. Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) in health care settings, with an altogether different pattern of infectivity.
The Covid death toll has also been well within what was anticipated, the 193,000 deaths over more than two years being below what the plan suggested should be anticipated as a minimum within four months:
When planning for excess deaths, local planners should prepare to extend capacity on a precautionary but reasonably practicable basis, and aim to cope with up to 210,000 – 315,000 additional deaths across the U.K. over a 15 week period (or a higher level where possible).
Even Neil Ferguson’s infamous prediction of 500,000 deaths is not a long way above this level, and that was always an absurdly high number to anticipate for Covid, as many pointed out at the time.
The pandemic plan could not be clearer that no attempt should be made to prevent the virus spreading. In a way this was the fundamental error from which all else flowed. Why was the Government even listening to advisers modelling the impact of restrictions on spread when its plan was clear that it should not attempt to ‘control’ the virus in this way? In no fewer than three places the plan states that it will not be possible to prevent the virus spreading and no attempt should be made to do so, as this would be a huge waste of resources.
It will not be possible to halt the spread of a new pandemic influenza virus, and it would be a waste of public health resources and capacity to attempt to do so.
It almost certainly will not be possible to contain or eradicate a new virus in its country of origin or on arrival in the U.K. The expectation must be that the virus will inevitably spread and that any local measures taken to disrupt or reduce the spread are likely to have very limited or partial success at a national level and cannot be relied on as a way to ‘buy time’.
It will not be possible to stop the spread of, or to eradicate, the pandemic influenza virus, either in the country of origin or in the U.K., as it will spread too rapidly and too widely.
Instead, the strategy states, the aim should be to minimise the impact on wider society, by ensuring the sick can be treated and not closing down society. Normality should be maintained as far as possible and restored as quickly as possible.
Minimise the potential health impact of a future influenza pandemic by… Ensuring the health and social care systems are ready to provide treatment and support for the large numbers likely to suffer from influenza or its complications whilst maintaining other essential care.
Minimise the potential impact of a pandemic on society and the economy by… Promoting a return to normality and the restoration of disrupted services at the earliest opportunity.
Whole of society response: Business as usual. During a pandemic, the Government will encourage those who are well to carry on with their normal daily lives for as long and as far as that is possible, whilst taking basic precautions to protect themselves from infection and lessen the risk of spreading influenza to others. The U.K. Government does not plan to close borders, stop mass gatherings or impose controls on public transport during any pandemic.
Given this was the pre-prepared strategy, based on sound science and wide experience, it should be the standard against which Government policy during the pandemic is assessed, as in, for example, the independent public inquiry. Anything else is to let ministers off the hook, and to buy into the lie that Covid was something that we were not and could not have been prepared for. In fact, we had planned for exactly the kind of outbreak that occurred, so ministers had no excuse at all for winging it, copying China, or thinking we should try out something radically authoritarian. The legacy of 2020 must not be the dawn of a new era of extreme, ineffective and destructive public health policy, but a clear-eyed resolve that it will never happen again.
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What changed was that the people calling the shots got involved in the business of selling the shots.
Though that only came about some months into the plandemic!
The downgrading of Covid from a High Consequence Infectious Disease prior to the first lockdown gave the government the right to ignore pre-existing drugs and therapies.
In other words the vaccine fix was in from the start. There would be no exploration of repurposed drugs or cheap solutions, we decided it was vaccines or nothing before the first lockdown.
Why would a government facing a novel pandemic choose to grant themselves the power to ignore existing treatments?
And everything else tallies with this:
* Ivermection and Hydroxichloroquine smeared, even to the extent of creating and publishing fradulent and dangerous trials to ‘prove the point’.
* Official NHS guidance being to open a window, drink water and only come to hospital if your lips turn blue.
* Vaccines already patented and ready to go, just the inconvenience of pretending to test them rigorously and honestly for a few months before getting them nodded through by the bought and paid for regulators.
* The fraudulent PCR test all ready to go within a day of the ‘Covid genone’ being released. This would be the tool for governments to keep their citizens in check till vaccine roll out.
* Millions spent on fear propoganda like killing granny, asymptomatic transmission accounting for a third of cases. When cases evaporated in Summer 2020 they quickly mandated masks to keep everyone scared and obedient. In Autumn the whack-a-mole theatre of regional lockdowns kept people on edge and compliant till roll out day.
Whatever the truth about the virus itself, who developed it or who released it; there are things we can now be certain about. The vaccine rollout was pre-ordained and governments took steps to brutally crush any resistance to said plan.
We didn’t witness a global cock up or an epic example of group think or panic. We witnessed painstakingly planned premeditation. To what end we will find out soon.
So you don’t think that it might, just possibly, have been anticipated? (I won’t say ”planned” as that might label me a ”Kunspirussie theerist”.)
Quite correct.
The original pandemic plan was designed to give the lowest fatality rate, assuming a respiratory disease pandemic occurred (as has frequently happened in the past. It centred on limiting the spread to the vulnerable.
What seems to have happened is that, several weeks into this pandemic, representatives of the Pharmaceutical Industries talked to contacts in government, and stated that they could stop they illness in its tracks using recent advances in
vaccinegene manipulation technology. All they required was:I can see how the politicians would have jumped at this – all their advisers (who had gone native with Big Pharma) would have said the same thing. Unfortunately,
Do not forget- Gates was at Downing Street .
This, I think, is the key to why this disaster will be unfolding for many years to come. Bill Gates is the mouthpiece for Schwabb and was probably key in threatening Governments. We do not have strong and principled politicians anymore.
Did we ever? It’s just that they hadn’t been given the tools and the sanction to be dangerous before.
Gates was everywhere at that time.
Please stop referring to the mRNA vaccines as gene manipulation, they are not and cannot be as that is a biological impossibility.
Viruses can be single stranded positive sense RNA, single stranded negative sense RNA double stranded RNA or DNA. ssRNA + dsRNA and DNA viruses have to use the nucleus to replicate whereas ssRNA- viruses replicate in the cytoplasm.
One of the toll like receptors in the cytoplasm (TLR 7), specifically responds to ssRNA viruses that causes the production of interferons, which cause adjacent cells into the antiviral state where they stop normal cell operation for around 10 hours.
Interferon is also responsible for the flu like symptoms of fever, shivering, fatigue and reduced appetite.
The mRNA from the vaccine preparations also replicate in the cytoplasm, however there appears to be a reduction in the production in interferons. Thus adjacent cells are unable to enter the antiviral state.
To the down voter I suggest that you do a little research, watching Brianne Barker on YouTube would be a good place to start.
From American Society of gene & cell therapy –
“These findings, announced by Moderna on Nov. 16 and by and its partner BioNTech on Nov. 9 (Pfizer with an update Nov 19), demonstrate that gene therapy is a viable strategy for developing vaccines to combat COVID-19. Both vaccine candidates use mRNA to program a person’s cells to produce many copies of a fragment of the virus. The fragment then stimulates the immune system to attack if the real virus tries to invade the body”
https://asgct.org/research/news/november-2020/covid-19-moderna-nih-vaccine
Looks like gene therapy to me.
Don’t be a Faucist.
Ye gods!
Therapy is the wrong word to use in this context.
They are not talking about HUMAN gene therapy here but VIRAL or BACTERIAL gene modification to produce a therapeutic material, such as insulin.
All viruses hijack an infected cells machinery to produce copies of itself. If it is ssRNA negative, like SARS CoV-2, then that replication occurs in the cytoplasm, nowhere near the human DNA locked up in the nucleus.
All other viral types enter the nucleus to replicate and have genes that produce additional proteins to facilitate this such as transcriptase. Herpes viruses remain in the nucleus but separate from the human DNA. Occasionally part of the DNA does become entangled in the host DNA (HIV and Herpes virus 6), but that doesn’t make the person non human.
From “the beautiful cure” by Daniel Davies:
“San Francisco-based company Genentech had just shown that a human gene could be inserted into bacteria, and these genetically modified bacteria would then produce the human protein encoded by that gene. This works because the chemical machinery which makes proteins inside cells is essentially the same in bacteria as it is in us: bacteria treat an inserted human gene just as they would any other gene and produce the protein that the gene codes for. In 1982, Genentech would make it big when the FDA approved the sale of the first genetically engineered medicine, human insulin.”
“This is called CAR T cell therapy, named for the added receptor – CAR stands for chimeric antigen receptor – which is made up of the front end of an antibody that locks onto cancer cells and a back end that triggers a T cell to kill. In this way, a patient’s T cells are reprogrammed to specifically target and kill their own cancer cells. In fact, the idea for this innovation had been suggested in 1989, over two decades before it finally became a medical success. One reason it took this long was the time needed to develop a successful procedure for inserting an additional receptor into T cells. Ultimately, June
used a disabled version of the HIV virus to do so, harnessing the virus’s natural ability to infect T cells and insert a copy of its genes in any cell it infects.”
Gene therapy in humans is modifying faulty genes such as those that cause muscular dystrophy, used in Great Ormond Street Hospital for example.
I made one mistake, I swapped ssRNA positive and ssRNA negative, SARS-CoV-2 is ssRNA positive and it is positive strands that are replicated in ribosomes external to the nucleus. ssRNA negative viruses, like measles, must replicate in the nucleus.
Why do the words ”sententious patronising claptrap” spring to mind?
Surely you know you’re speaking to an automatic downvoting troll?
Then why does Dr Malone (the inventor of this vaccine) cal, them mRNA and highly dangerous. He wanted them stopped when the strain was first realised because he understood their potential if they fell into the wrong hands.
Because they are messenger RNA, but they still cannot become incorporated into the host DNA.
According to the font of all knowledge, Wikipedia, ssRNA positive viruses act as mRNA in all cases. Thus a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine using an attenuated version of the full virus is technically an mRNA vaccine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive-strand_RNA_virus
Wikipedia? You cannot be serious…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bYAQ-ZZtEU
The Wikipedia entry on ssRNA corresponds to information presented by Vincent Racianello, a virologist, and Brianne Barker, an immunologist.
I rarely use Wikipedia as a primary or even a tertiary source but on this occasion it seemed a suitable link as it doesn’t appear to be at odds with the current knowledge.
To the doubters regarding what I said about ssRNA+ viruses replicating in the cytoplasm and not requiring to enter the nucleus then I refer you to this https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7149683/
I will put my hands up and admit I was wrong in suggesting that ssRNA- viruses have to enter the nucleus to replicate, in fact they also replicate in the cytoplasm with the exception of the influenza virus which has to enter the nucleus to replicate. See link above.
I made a mistake in my categorisation of SARS-CoV-2, it is ssRNA positive which replicates outside of the nucleus, ssRNA negative along with dsRNA and DNA viruses must replicate in the nucleus.
It hardly matters WHAT it is, so long as people are not ORDERED to take it, since it’s still unlicensed and is only approved for emergency use. Therefore, these arguments should be purely academic at the moment, so long as people are not forced to take this stuff. We should still be simply discussing their pros and cons, not why they’re killing people.
In any event, ”covid” itself is not a killer of the hale and hearty, and so these jabs are of no benefit to the vast majority. THAT much IS known.
I wasn’t arguing for or against the general administration of the vaccine, actually this is anathema for me.
I was not arguing for or against the general dangers of SARS-CoV-2, I am conscious of the relative risk of infection/CoViD19 and hence the need for universal vaccination is not warranted, irrespective of age group, even in the older population (individual decision as with other vaccinations) and definitely not in the under 65 group.
I was objecting to the term “gene therapy” being applied to the mRNA vaccines when they cannot alter the host cells DNA either in the mitochondria or the nucleus, that coronaviruses are their own mRNA (with reference to relevant sources).
That gene therapy has a specific meaning in that it is used to treat inherited disorders, see https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-350/
I was providing suitable references which kept being down ticked for no apparent good reason.
I agree that the down ticks were a bit rude: dialogue should be civil and factual, not knee-jerk. I have no idea if you are right or wrong, its above my pay grade, but I respect all opinions, especially ones that emphasis the right of choice and bodily autonomy.
Agree apart from one point, the vaccines were developed, they were developed at the same time as the virus. At least one ‘vaccine ‘ was patented the day after the virus was. This was a deliberate attempt by big pharma to get this technology accepted, aided by Fauci. The U.K. plan changed the very next day following Fauci call with Patrick Vallance.
What changed is that green ideology was put into practice, having been taught for decades previously.
Follow the money.
Exactly TC, it was always about a mendacious reset cooked up by uber von fuhrer Schwab, technonerd Gates dial in his paid for cronies at the WHO, and the puppet politicos bought by these NGOs and GloboCap … no science required, or true concern for average citizen health…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOetRv2Z9LE
The ultimate truth is that will never work. It’s against human nature, people will not suffer this. The rate for getting boosters is dropping, the total destruction of economies will ensure that people do not comply, they have much greater visible immediate threats, as the majority realise they weren’t ill at all and neither did the essential workers die.
The Government isn’t concerned about Britain’s borders but it’s prepared to risk extinction of the species in order to protect the borders of Country 404.
I’m torn between thinking that:-
They panicked. Saw what other countries (like Italy) were doing, and thought they’d better do the same, in case others did better and they were blamed for not following them, or,
They were talked into doing what they did for reasons unknown, but which we can guess at. A deliberate destruction of the country. Or bribed or blackmailed or persuaded, who knows?
It’s already absolutely obvious that it was Gates.
Of course it was Gates! He was in Downing Street being fawned over by Johnson and Carrie!
Did you mean ‘Evil’ Bill Gates?
No it was kindly, philanthropist Bill Gates who visited Epstein’s Island so often his wife divorced him.
By the way, why is Ghislaine Maxwell in jail for trafficking while the beneficiaries of said trafficking roam free?
Life is a mystery!
I meant what I said.
No they did not panic – it was all planned – they were triggered by those really in charge.
It gets worse, Johnson is currently signing up to over-ride our National Sovereignty and hand our entire ‘pandemic’ (as defined by Tedros) procedure to Bill Gates and his WHO/ GAVI operation. Mandatory mass vaccinations with more ‘experimental’ products are the plan – Pharma profit one of the objectives .
“Dr” (sic) Gates will be walking around with a big smile and a large never empty syringe!
Don’t forget the genocide that has been factored in
“It’s a communist one party state, we said. We couldn’t get away with it in Europe, we thought… and then Italy did it. And we realised we could.”
– PROFESSOR NEIL FERGUSON, THE TIMES
If they did panic, they must of realised early on that the “pandemic” wasn’t as deadly as they were claiming it was.
You only have to look at those people who were manufacturing and spreading the fear, they weren’t abiding by their own propaganda, so they clearly weren’t scared of the virus.
The government and press had plenty of opportunities to stop the panic, the earliest opportunity was after the first lock down, a simple apology and explanation of why they screwed up, it would have been a slight embarrassment for them to admit, but not catastrophic.
It wasn’t panic that drove these decisions, it was regime change.
If an actual deadly pandemic hit, and they did exactly the same thing again, we would have bodies piling in the streets.
None of the covid rules made any sense, and they certainly weren’t backed up with any science.
Well they didn’t follow the plan
“7.25 The presumption is that the Government will rely on voluntary compliance with national advice and that it will not invoke emergency or compulsory powers unless they become necessary, in which case the least restrictive measures that are likely to achieve the objective will be applied first. There is no intention to use legal powers to require people to undergo vaccination or treatment.”
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/213717/dh_131040.pdf
It was planned and all countries who had their own pandemic plans like Sweden and UK were bullied and threatened. Sweden stood strong because their Chief Medical Adviser was independent and had no investment with Big Pharma. He also used solid well established scientists. The UK had no scientific brain in the Cabinet to question WHO and no independent scientific body. All our research institutions connected to Westminster are heavily funded by Bill and Melinda Gates. Those that are mot were completely ignored.
Whitty and Valance both worked for Gates funded companies and had large investments in vaccine manufacturing. Neither had worked on practical science but only theory and neither had worked in the patient field. What was even worse is SAGE and PHE were full of computer modellers and politicians. Not one trained scientist among them.
The government (and Parliament) are followers, basically like the majority of the country, sheep, who follow, as we are continuing to do with other world stage scenarios, for various reasons
Agree wholeheartedly. The number of people who I see still slipping on their dirty and useless face masks as they enter a shop is evidence of this. There seems to be no desire to think for themselves. Truly disheartening.
It’s a pandemic of obedience to The State.
Fear of social disapproval and fines.
The walking dead.
Yes, the zombie apocalypse began years/decades ago, as “documented” by cinema’s most subversive genre. First modern zombie film made in late 60’s. The numbers of walking dead are now catastrophic, on a par with the most pessimistic of zombie films. Just a small, *tiny*, minority of us uninfected still holding out.
Problem was, that document was created before ‘the feels’ took hold in social media. It’s cold and calcuting with zero emotion just like a government document should be. It obviously couldnt hold scrunity of the screaming vocal Karens. YOU’RE KILLING PEOPLE!!!!!!
To which the answer is: ‘unfortunately, Karen, people are going to die whatever we do. That’s what pandemics do. They kill people. You have a choice between killing people and trashing the economy vs killing people and not trashing it.
Would you rather you survived poor and granny died or you survived prosperous and granny died??’
Actually, the original pandemic plan kept the economy running and gave granny a fighting chance.
We were sold a state-of-the-art cure which would stop the pandemic in its tracks. It did not work, and we got the worst of all possible results.
Consider the possibility that it was never meant to work and take it from there.
I think social media played (and continues to play) a large part in decision making. If you want to influence public opinion it doesn’t take much to get large groups of people in your employ to bombard all the popular sites with comments and suggestions (example “we should all be wearing masks, what is the government thinking?”) and change/influence the minds of the hard of thinking. I sometimes think that the Internet is the worst thing that has ever happened to the human race.
The internet has certainly become a monster. Two and a half decades ago it was very different, with lots of clubs and interest groups setting up websites – there were seemingly plenty of people with enough knowledge of html to produce basic websites with useful and informative content, often in lurid colour schemes!
Now, everything is focussed on a few platofrms and on what is effectively marketing. Informative sites have in many cases been replaced with much more professional-looking sites, but which have minimal actual content – it’s all glossy marketing. Clubs and interest groups have largely migrated to Facebook and the like, and informative content has been replaced by inane chatter.
And of course this level of centralisation on a few major platforms, and the fact that it’s now interactive in a way which it wasn’t two and a half decades ago, makes it the propagandists’ wet dream – never before has it been so easy to influence such large numbers of people.
‘does not plan’
Political speak for we will definitely do it
As Midazolam Matt responded when this point was raised recently
‘different virus’
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What is also clear is that ‘Her Majesty’s Opposition’ were Loyal to the Government, not to the interests of the people. Starmer et al did nothing to say: ‘Why aren’t you sticking to the 2011 pandemic plan?’ at all. He was not opposing, he just went along with the abrupt change of policy without asking detailed questions. He was not fit to be the Leader of the Opposition and it does not appear that many of his backbenchers were fit to be in Parliament either.
There can be no letting the Labour Party off the hook in any way whatever. If they try and use this for political advantage, all gloves should be removed where they are concerned.
They are absolutely up to their oily necks in this, just like the Govenrnment.
The Enquiry must embrace the concept that Parliament no longer represents the interests of the people, is no longer a functioning institution and the reason for that is the corrupt nature of all of its most senior officials, representatives and functionaries.
Starmer should be out on his backside and so should the entire Shadow Cabinet of 2020.
I think it’s already a given that the Government is not fit for purpose….
The entire Labour Party is a moronic waste of space and there are only 100 decent Tory MPs!
20 Labour MPs voted against continuing restrictions in spring 2021. So did L.Dems and Green.
But yes … the rest seem happy to represent global capital rather than their ‘constituents’.
If it weren’t for Starmer labour would still be well ahead in the polls.
One of his potential replacements, Lisa Nandy, is thought to be a real threat so for our sakes, best Starmer hangs around at least until until Boris is kicked out.
Nandy a “threat” – what a sign of our sick sad times!
Yes; when Nandy first appeared, I thought there might be something there, but then she continued to talk….
And talk and talk – and the longer she talked, the more the garbage was revealed!
Starmer is to leadership what balsa wood is to mahogany – a poor substitute.
In fact no substitute at all!
All plans cancelled under orders from Schwab and Gates to begin the “Great Reset “.
Gates was a visitor at Downing Street early on in the ‘crisis’ no doubt pushing his vaccines advice. Whitty works for the WHO.
The “window of opportunity” Schwab spoke of for the draconian lockdowns and hyping up the crisis was seized and his WEF “sleeper” operatives switched on!
Ferguson at Chinese Communist Party funded Imperial College was primed – others simply fell into line.
Just a guess of course. The money soon followed!
I think it’s better described as a summary of evidence.
Anna de Buisseret commented that the Corona Virus Act was a long & complex document that would have taken a few months to draft not the few days which was claimed.
This had been long in planning, not just a knee jerk response to a visit from Gates.
Not convinced or they wouldn’t have made such a dramatic last-minute decision to u-turn into lockdown.
How do you know Gates did not help write it? It seems to be just his bag!
The Great Reset and the WEF Young Leaders project has been at least thirty years in the making- in fact much longer when Schwab was at Harvard, where Kissinger lectured and the CIA recruit.
Fauci and Gates met and formed a common cause back in the early 2000s ( documented by RFKJ in his book on Fauci).
Mysteriously, also Whitty and the other CMOs downgraded the seriousness of Covid as a disease (if I remember correctly on 19 March 2020) just before lockdown was announced – what the hell was going on? The present editor of BMJ, Kamran Abbasi, alleged it was to downgrade government liability, but there is still no explanation.
‘it was to downgrade government liability’
I appreciate those are not your words…… but what does that mean?
“On 19 March, the status of covid-19 was downgraded from level 4, the highest threat level, to level 3 by the four nations group on high consequence infectious diseases and the Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens.11This enabled the required standard of personal protective equipment to be lowered for staff in hospitals and to nurse patients in non-infectious disease settings. Meanwhile, a reckless policy of discharging older patients from hospitals to care homes without testing allowed the virus to spread and kick start a second epidemic of community infection.12”
https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1932.long
It is on this page – you have to scroll down:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid
”As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK. There are many diseases which can cause serious illness which are not classified as HCIDs.
The 4 nations public health HCID group made an interim recommendation in January 2020 to classify COVID-19 as an HCID. This was based on consideration of the UK HCID criteria about the virus and the disease with information available during the early stages of the outbreak. Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase.
The Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) is also of the opinion that COVID-19 should no longer be classified as an HCID.”
I read that it also meant they werent obligated to supply readily available therapeutics, the names of which we all know by now. We couldnt have anything getting into the way of the panacea ‘vaccines’.
I heard that also. It was to clear the way for the magic jabs.
Thanks for that
From UK GOV website
Definition of HCID
In the UK, a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) is defined according to the following criteria:
For it to be a HCID do all the criteria have to be met?
The change came on 19th March and lockdown on 20th March
So
No lockdown when it is a HCID
Lockdown when it’s downgraded from a HCID
Something very strange occurred here
You are not kidding!
“Strange”?
Please try and tell us what exactly you think it was.
Without downgrading the severity, they would have been mandated to look at repurposing existing drugs, and that would have been game over.
What you and Doom Slayer say may well be right, and I am not necessarily convinced by Abbasi’s explanation, but I do not think we can find out unless these people are thoroughly investigated – it is very opaque though manifestly they were not up to any good.
Someone needs to answer for this.
Deviating from this plan caused vast expense and untold suffering.
Quite apart from the cost of producing the plan in the first place, which has clearly not been updated or even looked at in 11 years.
It’s criminal neglect.
Only Criminal charges and Nuremberg 2 will suffice to meet the magnitude of the crimes committed.
Mike Yeadon calls for the Pharma companies to be indicted for fraud conspiracy, deception and manslaughter as the evidence of their joint knowledge of vax damage, deliberate violation of the ‘trials’ safety procedure and deliberate concealment of the dangers mounts.
Only the outrageous Government censorship of the Media prevents public outrage at the revelations..
I’d go for corporate murder if I were Yeadon.
So where is the Class Action?
In your head?
No – it isn’t actually.
We will almost certainly never know
What we do know for sure is that they are either mad, bad or utterly weak and incompetent or some combination of the above and should be barred from public office forever
I agree we’ll never know everything but, GB News and Mark Steyn are all over the vaccine injuries. Whilst hardly mainstream, GB News has a large viewership who are probably not inclined, like us, to spend time on the internet researching things.
A lot of people are now a bit bewildered with the vaccines. Some with one jab, a very few with three, and many are wondering if it was worth it. When they get wind of vaccine injuries it will be like them getting wind of covid, they’ll be worried and more inclined to listen.
Were they convinced of the efficacy of these ‘vaccines’ why didn’t the single jabbers go on to get the second and third?
The problem may be cognitive dissonance when they find out.
The way that people are coping with cognitive dissonance seems to be ‘I had Covid but thank God I had taken the ‘vaccine’ as it would have been so much worse without’. I’ve heard several people say this and I would guess their heads would explode if they actually admitted that the ‘vaccines’ are completely useless.
The heads would probably implode as there is clearly no grey matter inside to hold them together.
The problem is a total failure of cognition in the first place – never mind the dissonance!.
rofl
It may be – but if it makes them stop short and think “should I have another injection?” then it is worth it.
How long will they let the excellent Mark Steyn continue?
Then what?
What an absurd stereotype to make. I watch GB News but I have a degree and research plenty online. Just because the MSM labels them as Daily Mail readers, doesn’t mean that they are.
Daily Mail readers?
You don’t need to be able to ‘read’ to view the Daily Mail. In fact it is a disadvantage.
“why didn’t the single jabbers go on to get the second and third?”
Where we live it is a rare thing to find someone who hasn’t had 3 jabs.
I wonder how things will look in a year’s time – will borders still have ‘Covid restrictions’? Will the jabs still be knocking around? The EU Vaxx Pass scheme will still be running, that we do know. Will people still be wearing face masks in May 2023?
Will there be fewer people around?
There will be 80,000 fewer people living in Ukraine as Finland is taking 80,000 in – so there will be more here and fewer there.
Lots of people keep churning out the “excess mortality hasn’t changed” so it does look like there was no pandemic, and also that the ‘vaccines’ aren’t making people ‘drop like flies’.
No, they are not ‘dropping like flies’, because the vaccine is a steady, slow burn, delayed action weapon
Almost every mask wearer in Durham is a chink under 25
“How Beijing is buying up Britain: Chinese investors ‘have spent £134 billion on UK assets including infrastructure, private schools and FTSE 100 firms’Chinese investors have stakes in key infrastructure firms such as Thames Water
Heathrow and UK Power Networks also have Chinese stakeholders”
Funny how people keep chanting out the “Bill Gates evil, Fauci evil” mantra when you’d think the gradual assimilation of the UK into a province of China would be more of an issue.
SCHOOLS OWNED BY CHINA-BACKED FIRMS
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9534637/Chinese-investors-spend-134-BILLION-UK-assets-including-infrastructure-FTSE-100-firms.html
Yes – RHS – GB News needs to continue to ramp up the coverage of this – they are doing a half decent job of it, and this will likely be the only MSM news outlet where the general public will come across what we here have known for a long time about vaccine injuries and deaths.
Mark Dolan’s Friday evening show even covered the WHO pandemic treaty – I only saw a snippet of it , but that is getting close to the knuckle now. That is also something they need to continue to feature and focus more on.
Keep up the pressure GB News!!
We already know! But the Media are silenced by Ofcom censors operating under Johnsons’ ‘Never-to-end’ emergency powers.
It is getting rathee late for people to ‘wake up’!.
Stop rationalising evil and things will start making sense.
It’s only a suggestion, but was it because Boris had Gollum doing the announcements? (Next slide, please.)
The enquiry should look very closely at the role and the influence of Dominic Cummings. He is supposed to have gone round saying that we were on a war footing against covid. Such wholly unreasonable panic, coming from a chap who somehow managed to give the impression that he had the brainpower to understand all sorts of technical matters, may well have pushed Boris and other ministers (including those naturally inclined to lockdowns) in the wrong direction.
The science behind the proposed vaccine made sense. It was being sold by highly technical specialists who hid the possible downsides. And it was state of the art biochemistry. No one knew that:
until it was tried….
“Made sense”? It was demolished and dismissed as untried untested and potentially dangerous by Senior Virologists worldwide Great Barrington Declaration?)- those not in the pay of Pharma (they were censored, cancelled sneered at and abused) within weeks.
Wolfgang Woodarg called a ‘scam’ ( like the ‘Swine Flu’ he exposed and halted ) in Germany and and was shut down. Yeadon asked for an open debate and was shut down.
Pharma resorted to a stream of lies: eg “the ‘vax’ spike proteins do not travel from the point of injection” – oh yes they do – only to every organ of the body where they wreak havoc in our cells reproducing themselves.
The injections were also so casually administered by incompetent novices who often managed to get them directly into the veins of many – not the muscle – hence the sudden collapse of the ‘victim’ and sometimes even their death.
The criminality of all this is simply unprecedented and the ‘cover-up’ from day one by all involved simply beyond evil..
Gates and the WHO he bankrolls are already coming back for more of the same while our Parliament sleeps!
Shouldn’t that have been ‘highly mendacious specialists’? They knew the downsides, since they concealed them.
Cummings was hardly far-sighted (as he later admitted in Bishop Auckland).
Brilliant
Cummings – small fry – became a total irrelevance overnight.
Dommunist Dictator is a well-known lockdown enthusiast so this makes sense.
Any falling out between him and Carrie Antoinette is personal, not ideological.
20-30 years of planning, educating indoctrinating, and paying the right people to be in the right place at the right time, another long march. A one world government if it prevents wars makes sense for the future, but that would/should evolve in the normal passage of time. This current bunch of Wef lunatics don’t seem to have much in the way of actual common sense intelligence or patience.
They have the further disadvantage of being deluded, megalomaniac sociopaths and psychopaths, obsessed with space travel and dystopian-sci-fi movies.
One of them has “Germ Phobia” as well and tells a gathering that that wearing a mask permanently is the same as ‘wearing underpants’!
This last is the man Johnson so urgently wants to hand our pandemic response to.
God help us all.
Same here in Lockdownunder.
Federal election next Saturday… it’s not looking good for Lib/Lab/Nats/Greens.
I think it was a procedure not a plan (the difference is that a plan is specific (dates, who, costs etc) and a procedure is the process and what needs to be done). Anyway there has been a well documented and researched procedures for dealing with viral pandemics both national and international. Can you guess which country followed it’s national procedure for a viral pandemic, yes Sweden.
When I was at work we had a number of procedures for doing various things and if an event occurred the first thing we had to do was look at the procedures. If something occurred and I just knee jerk reacted without first looking at the procedures I wouldn’t of been in my job long.
Those making the decisions in SAGE were receiving research grants from the Gates Foundation, as were the media. The GF also was the second largest funder of the WHO – and redirected WHO funding towards phrama research solutions to ‘improve’ the third world rather than invest in clean water and sanitation. One man having more financial clout than everyone in Africa. Some call it venture philanthropy, or what we might refer to as corporate colonialism. And the left-wing press don’t say a word about it.
Wherever you did around in this pit your uncover Gates!
Obviously just a coincidence.
The DT gets £3.4 million a year to ‘advocate’ ( the word used in the B&MG Foundation website) his ‘World Health’ policies. So expect strong support for the WHO/Gates ‘power grab’ and the over-riding of our national sovereignty.
During the early days of the ‘pandemic’ I saw a video discussion with a former WHO member. They said that most countries except Trump for the USA and China had already agreed in writing, to follow WHO guidelines. This was well before the latest signing by Boris.
The only conclusion that makes any sense is economic. In order to manage, or hide until all the CDBC ducks are in a row, a “western” monitary hyperinflationary event, the global central banks need to slow money velocity.
The UK House of Lords report on CDBC said it’s a solution looking for a problem. Once the BIS et al are ready to introduce their authoritarian programmable CDBCs, a defacto digital slavery system, they will implode the global financial system, order ab chao.
UBI is the likey vehicle to get populations to accept it willingly, of course they will need a “Digital ID” to enable this, hence the vax pass had a digital wallet built into the backbone, giving the game away.
Think I’m getting it now
The downgrade from HCID removed the requirement to use existing therapeutics
The ‘vaccine’ could not be approved for emergency use if here were alternative treatments
A right stich up
Must have been huge kickbacks
Oh yes, the vaccine roll out was always contingent on there not being effective therapeutics – and obviously huge investments had already been made. I am still not sure this HCID decision was directly to do with this, and I am not sure that that can be inferred from the information available. The decision was not reported at a time when they were trying to tell us we were in deadly peril. What is certain is that something is very wrong in this narrative. If we could just tug at this thread surely a lot would fall apart.
Ah – Chris Whitty again! Always makes me think of his fan club:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpCxpmegbnE
Would that be ‘the Boiled Beetroot Society”?
“The Government Does Not Plan…”
Well it does, but then it panics and the plan is history.
A Government plan never survives the first encounter with the
enemyGlobalist Bankers.Strike or comma… decisions decisions…
Lockdown is playing it safe in the same way punches from Frank Bruno is playing it safe.
North Korea is in lockdown, BBC R4 reports.
Apparently the population is unjabbed and the Dear Leader has refused offers of any.
So they’re clearly the ‘control’. I can’t think of any similar countries to be the ‘experimental’ group, though.
Any data coming out of there is likely to make China look reliable by comparison!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzriCFzM5Ys
Chris Whitty 2020.
…a significant proportion of people will not get this virus….those who do will get the virus without any symptoms at all…those who do get symptoms, the vast majority, over 80% will have mild or moderate disease…..a minority will go to hospital…but will recover and leave..a minority of that group will sadly die, but this will only be those in the high risk group…1% or less….
They knew from the beginning, and this is probably the only time he told the actual truth.
All the SAGE stooges knew. Medley, who on 13 March 2020 explained herd immunity on Newsnight, Edmunds, who on 5 March published a paper about fatalities in the over 70s aboard the Diamond Princess, Ferguson who did as he did but not as he said, etc, etc.
All complicit from the start.
It must have taken some planning. It isn’t just coincidence that the hard-liners, the schemers, the tame scientists, outright head-cases, were all ready to implement the whole hideous plan. By the way, where is Professor Neil Ferguson?
Reposting from last night.
Dr Flynn discusses the potential for adenoviral vectors to cause hepatitis in young immunologically naive children. She believes that adenoviral vector in ChAdOx may have recombined with wild adenovirus and that the UK government must be aware of this risk.
From about 35 mins onwards.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-the-covid-tyrants-created-a-cycle-of/id1065050908?i=1000560606756
We are joined by Dr. Lynn Fynn of the Global COVID Summit, who explains how everything Big Pharma has done has backfired and created a cycle of chronic viruses. The infectious disease doctor believes the adenovirus-vector vaccines are responsible for the recent cases of hepatitis among kids.
I am struck by the rapidity with which researchers have noted the possibility of de-attenuation of the AZ adenovirus, compared with the official line.
This kind of divergence does not build confidence, especially as it was pointed out prior to release in the Australian government’s risk assessment.
https://www.ogtr.gov.au/sites/default/files/2021-06/dir180-full_risk_assessment_and_risk_management_plan.pdf
Who exactly is this Dr Lynn Fynn? Or is it ‘Flynn’ (as Kate spells it)?
I found this: https://t.me/s/DrLynnFynn
IT’S A TRICK – the government might not but the WHO will (ref: WHO pandemic treaty respond before next meeting 22 May 22)
Corporatism – Wikipedia Benito Mussolini.“Tutto nello Stato, niente al di fuori dello Stato, nulla contro lo Stato” (“everything for the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state”).
When I discovered this document a year or two ago I started posting extracts in my local papers comment section. I was gaslighted by the resident science guys with their usual diatribe saying ‘you don’t understand the document’ or saying ‘covid isn’t a flu’ and a few other insults where I was talked down to like a child. When I pointed out that the document clearly states the plan can be adjusted (not ripped up and thrown in the fire) if the next pandemic is a SARS virus like covid 19 is. It’s funny how much silence I was met with after pointing that fact out.
Yes, where is Professor Neil Ferguson?
This pandemic treaty is the greatest power grab any of us has seen in our lifetime, says Neil Oliver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gafV6YhhnAQ
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“Which has its headquarters in Geneva”.
The “country” of Switzerland collaborating in evil again I see.
You only need to look at the size and complexity of the coronavirus regulations to understand that this was a pre-planned event on a global scale which was just waiting to be triggered.
And it was done in “Lockstep”
Countries all across the world very quickly enacted very similar legislation – couldn’t have been done in months let alone the few weeks in which it was done everywhere.
France had McKinsey working on theirs – now a source of huge controversy in France – was that the blueprint for everywhere else???
Hard to avoid the conclusion that the words people should be searching for to describe this are not “cock-up” or “conspiracy” but simply “planned and co-ordinated” (and on a global scale).
It is shocking the number of people injured severely by the experimental biologicals and the number of people who have died from them. When people need to have amputations due to blood clots in their legs plastic experimental biolocpgical injections, you would think someone, just someone in the health department might see a massive red flag and call for an immediate halt to these damaging and lethal experimental biologicals. Criminal negligence? Murder? What would you call it? A crime against humanity? All of the above? Cdc VAERS, UK yellow card reporting system.
Why? Because they were suckered by the idiot Ferguson, who somehow got them to forget his previous, consistent modelling exaggerations. All else flowed from that first, fatal decision.
They weren’t “suckered” at all by Ferguson- he and his dept (funded by Gates to the tune of millions of £s) were specifically relied upon by Johnson who knew very well what his past performance was….wildly inaccurate projections for Foot&Mouth, Swine Flu, CJD. Why do you think Johnson kept intoning “we are following the science”….gave Ferguson’s model credibility and behind the dismal failure (Ferguson) is messianic vaccinator, Gates.
Actually nothing changed…..the same people who modelled CJD and swine flu were used to model Covid. The really big question was why were these same civil servants still in position. One can understand the first mistake with CJD (although that is never an excuse for not punishing people who caused the slaughter of millions of health cattle). However, after Swine flu heads should have rolled and the whole faux expert technocratic system should have been abandoned.
Then to make the situation worse the culprit of all these models was reinstated quietly and insidiously after resigning from breaking his own model. Many questions should have been coming from MPs at this point. In fact if Parliament was working as intended our representatives should have been shouting from the rafters from the very beginning instead of cowering at home.
This IS one of the critical questions to get to the bottom of what really happened.
But the question is not just restricted to the UK, it should be expaanded to ask why did every major Government drop their pre-developed pandemic response plans at exactly the same time? This cannot have beena coincidence so who coordinated the ad hoc response(s) and why? Governments spend years and Millions developing a “What if” response plan for everything so that it can be immediately implemented – and don’t just then drop them for no good or apparent reason – especially for a “bad Flu” outbreak. The pandemic response plan for every major country, did NOT include masks and lockdowns.
If we can answer that question, IMHO we get a lot closer to dicovering what really went down and who was behind it.
Governments have now adopted the “We can move on because the vaccines were so succesful” mode are trying to establish “forced amnesia” for the very reason that they don’t want questions like this asked. The official enquiries will be the usual cover-ups and a waste of time, designed to obfuscate and avoid any accountability. We the people owe it to ourselves, after two years of wasted life, not to allow ourselves to be “fobbed off” and to keep pursuing this critical question.
Yes….that question should be at the heart of the Inquiry, rather than possibly going down the ‘rabbit hole’ of locking down, 1 week, or 2 weeks earlier. That line of inquiry diverts in to the modellers’ fantasy realm, and that was a fantasy based on the fraudulent PCR cooked up by Drosten and endorsed and legitimised by WHO.
But the authorities who were making many of these decisions knew full well that they were seriously implicated in the creation of Covid ….. and many of them also saw a great deal of personal enrichment opportunities if they ditched the sensible Pandemic Plan.
are you sure that shouldn’t be the gallows that man is standing
at not a podium, with the exact same banners?
What has happened to the suggestion that Boris was blackmailed by the big Trade Unions, education, transport and health, that if he did not lock down they would precipitate a National Strike?
His alternative was to precipitate a Strike or Lock Down. No third alternative was around.
Must have been ‘on the fringe’, that suggestion. Those weren’t the options he had…a bizarre notion.
And how many ”bizarre notions” have proved to have an element of truth over the past couple of years?
I can’t see any element of reality in those ‘alternatives’, maybe they could serve as a preferred shield for Johnson during or post Inquiry. You’re right about “bizarre notions” having an element of (make that absolute) truth. Vaccine Passports (their advent was noted in alternative media or BTL comments on various msm forums) seemed to be in that realm of the bizarre in 2020 but they arrived as forecasted.
Not on the fringe.
Simply concealed and the media were paid not to talk about it.
https://bylinetimes.com/2022/05/11/bungs-to-billionaires-cummings-exposes-johnsons-cash-for-content-scandal/
Simply from reading the headline, it springs to mind that the government doesn’t need to ”plan” anything like this. They’re about to hand over all the responsibility of these kind of decisions to the WHO.
”Wasn’t me, guv – it was them…..”
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I see the petition re the WHO’s takeover of the world is growing suspiciously slowly – as these things always do when they’re about something really important. (The ‘net zero’ one has closed now with only about 25,000 signatories.)
Not that I believe these things make any difference.
People had been whipped into such a panic by false reports from China, by main stream media, and bloggers & others on social media(all mak8ng money from the clicks), the people were literally screaming for the government to do something. The pressure was enormous. Once one government was seen to be doing something, the rest fell in line, they could not be seen “doing nothing”. The real culprits here are main stream media and bloggers.
”The people were literally screaming….” No, they weren’t! The media were screaming and trying to manipulate and frighten people. The people themselves were just being stupid enough to watch the BBC scare stories and read the shouty headlines of the MSM. Then they just sat at home and waited to be told what to do like good little thralls. Then they did it – thoroughly and mindlessly.
Just as they will the next time.
Would I be correct in thinking that the U.K. Influenza Pandemic Preparedness Strategy 2011 is the strategy drafted and adopted by the previous Labour government and then adopted by the coalition government in 2011, largely or entirely unchanged? It is useful that you have linked to it and quoted from it, educating readers who did not already know about by mentioning it at all.