The lead author of a pre-print study in the Lancet examining all-cause mortality in the Covid vaccine trials has said that her work shows a “potential danger signal” for heart-related deaths connected to the mRNA vaccines that “warrants further scrutinisation”.
Speaking to UnHerd‘s Freddie Sayers, Professor Christine Stabell-Benn from the University of Southern Denmark added that there is “major pushback” to her efforts to investigate the effects of vaccines on all-cause mortality and many regulators and companies simply don’t want to know.
While stressing that the numbers in her study are often too small to provide statistical significance and ground firm conclusions, Prof. Stabell-Benn observes that “there is an overweight of cardiovascular deaths in the Pfizer group” which is “a potential danger signal that warrants further scrutinisation”.
Addressing the wider context of safety signals from the mRNA vaccines, she adds (from 22’50”):
I think there are danger signals in relation to cardiovascular deaths and diseases. We know that now with certainty for the mRNA vaccines with respect to myocarditis and pericarditis. But also anecdotally, I would say there are reports of cardiovascular deaths which I think deserve further scrutinisation. This is just a piece in the puzzle, but it adds to the evidence that suggests this is something which should be investigated further for the mRNA vaccines.
Prof. Stabell-Benn calls for back-to-back comparisons of the two new vaccine types, mRNA and adenovirus-vector, to compare their effects on all-cause mortality.
Addressing the politics of her research, she admits there is “not a lot of interest” from regulators and companies. “There is major pushback to be honest.” She adds:
It is also a bit of a Pandora’s box, I think, for health authorities, because if they start acknowledging these effects there is also the huge problem of potential negative non-specific effects that have actually been brought to the attention of the WHO already 20 years ago, but they haven’t really responded with the investigations. So you can see the potential backlash for the WHO, for vaccination programmes, if it actually comes out that some vaccines have carried these negative non-specific effects.
So I’ve been in this business for many years and I know that there are powers out there who aren’t interested in really digging into these findings. And again, it also has implications for the way we test vaccines, so you can see it is complicated stuff also for companies, for regulators, if we need to design vaccine phase 3 trials which do not only study the specific disease but also study all-cause mortality and morbidity.
Would she recommend Covid vaccination, Freddie asks. Based on what we know currently, “I wouldn’t recommend vaccination of anybody [under] 50 years of age” with the mRNA vaccines, she says.
Is she vaccinated? That’s “private”, she laughs.
Asked if she would recommend either vaccine to her (hypothetical) adult children in their 20s, her answer is an immediate and emphatic “no”.
That comes from decades of studying non-specific effects of vaccines and realising that the protective immunity against the vaccine disease can come at a high price. With the unknowns in relation to the new vaccine types, I would be on the safe side of things and say that as long as your risk of severe Covid is low then I wouldn’t run the risk of taking a new vaccine which hasn’t been tested for its overall health effects. And regrettably, we still lack that data. We tried to do the best we can with the very limited data in this study that we have now submitted, but it’s not good enough.
In the interview, Prof. Stabell-Benn also draws attention to the statistically significant benefits her study finds for all-cause mortality and cardiovascular mortality from the adenovirus-vector vaccines (in contrast to the mRNA vaccines). I have discussed this aspect of the study in a previous post, drawing attention to the fact that with the more recent and complete data from one of the large adenovirus vaccine trials, the apparent mortality improvement is now much smaller and no longer statistically significant. Also, the trial mortality data suffer (as Prof. Stabell-Benn herself acknowledges) from small numbers susceptible to freak random occurrences (in one study there are four accident deaths in the vaccine arm versus zero in the control arm) and very short follow-up times.
During the interview, Freddie suggests that the U.K. may have done better than much of Europe in terms of overall mortality because it used the AstraZeneca adenovirus-vector vaccine widely, unlike Europe which largely dismissed it. However, contrary to this claim, the U.K. was actually one of the worst in Western Europe for overall mortality for 2020 and 2021, as shown below.

The U.K. also did not escape the Europe-wide wave of non-Covid deaths in the second half of 2021.

There is no evidence here I can see for the idea that the adenovirus-vector vaccines are peculiarly beneficial for all-cause mortality.
In my original post on this study I noted that the alarming increase in cardiovascular deaths Prof. Stabell-Benn is now calling a “potential danger signal” went “oddly unremarked upon in the paper”. Instead, the focus was entirely on the apparent mortality improvement from the adenovirus-vector vaccines. I suggested this was “due to the authors being wary of criticising the vaccines in order to be published” and lamented this likely state of affairs. I pointed out that, while these findings were not statistically significant, the effect size was large and “in the context of wider concerns about adverse effects of mRNA vaccines on the cardiovascular system, warrant some comment, if only to flag them up and say larger studies are needed to see if statistical significance obtains”.
I’m very pleased to hear Prof. Stabell-Benn now doing exactly this publicly – and dismayed to discover that my guess was presumably correct, and the politics did not allow her to include these important observations in the paper itself.
This is, of course, not good enough. The “powers” Prof. Stabell-Benn refers to are far too protective of their vaccines, manipulating the press and wider society to go along with their propaganda, usually by appealing to the idea of maintaining confidence in the vaccines in order to promote take-up. In the U.K., we even had the Queen and the Archbishop of Canterbury enlisted in telling people they have a duty to be vaccinated.
Of all medicines, vaccines are peculiarly susceptible to this kind of manipulation and propaganda, as while most medicine is just taken by the sick to try to make them well, vaccines are often believed to work best if as many people as possible take them to try to eliminate the disease completely or reduce it to minimal levels. This is unfortunate, because as drugs uniquely taken by the healthy and well, it is even more important that they are very safe, and propaganda to bolster ‘confidence’ is antithetical to a culture that investigates fully and properly the impact of vaccines and is open and transparent about the results.
In this light, the significance of the concept of ‘herd immunity’ for vaccination and its role in suppressing free and open scientific enquiry and media reporting needs to be scrutinised. It may be that for many vaccines, herd immunity is an unhelpful concept that wrongly puts the focus on universal take-up and maintaining confidence – instead of on focused take-up by the higher risk – and so covers vaccines in a shroud of propaganda that conceals crucial information and smothers honest investigation.
Prof. Stabell-Benn is right that there are danger signals for these vaccines, and not just for the mRNA ones. It’s time to strip away the protective blanket of ‘confidence’ propaganda they have been covered with since the rollout began and look at them in the cold light of day to see what we have created.


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“we still lack that data” and won’t be getting it anytime soon.
Was This the Plan All Along?
To answer the question whether this has been planned, below is a selection of excerpts from infamous individuals regarding gene editing, in their own words. No further comment is required, these excerpts speak for themselves, you decide.
In an interview with Charlie Rose, Klaus Schwab said: “You see the difference of this fourth industrial revolution is it doesn’t change what you are doing, it changes you. If you take genetic editing, just as an example, it’s you who are changing. And of course, this has a big impact on your identity.”
Klaus Schwab on the Charlie Rose Show, 2015 (2 mins)
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Tal Zaks, chief medical officer of Moderna, stated, “In every cell there’s this thing called messenger RNA or mRNA for short, that transmits the critical information from the DNA in our genes to the protein, which is really the stuff we’re all made out of. This is the critical information that determines what the cell will do. So, we think about it as an operating system. …. So, if you could actually change that, … if you could introduce a line of code, or change a line… Read more »
Pfizer ARR 0.84% x3 = 2.52% Covid x3 = 297.48% x4 = 3.36% Covid x 4 = 396.64%
Moderna ARR 1.24% x3 = 3.72% Covid x3 = 296.28% x4 = 4.96% Covid x 4 = 395.04%
Astrazeneca ARR 1.28% x3 = 3.84%Covid x3 = 296.16% x4 = 5.12% Covid x 4 = 394.88%
So 2 shots plus booster = 3 =1,010,880 Trillion, Trillion, Trillion mRNA and Graphene Oxide/Hydroxide particles in your body?
So 2 shots plus 2 boosters = 4 = 2021760 Trillion, Trillion, Trillion Trillion, Trillion, Trillion mRNA and Graphene Oxide/Hydroxide particles in your body?
Jim Woodgett, former Director of Research at Mount Sinai Hospital (2005-2021)
Answered May 5, 2021
The SARS-CoV-2 Spike protein encodes a 1273 amino acid protein. Multiple by 3 to get the number of nucleotides and add some untranslated regions for directing translational start and aiding in stability it rounds to approximately 5,000 nucleotides. 1 nucleotide of RNA has a mass of (averaged) of 320 Daltons. So an RNA comprised of 5,000 nucleotides has a mass of 1600 kiloDaltons.
There are 30 micrograms of RNA in a Pfizer/BioNTech single dose (in 0.3 ml). That means there are about 11.3 x 10 to the power of 12 molecules of RNA per… Read more »
“Vaccine efficacy is generally reported as a relative risk reduction (RRR). It uses the relative risk (RR)—ie, the ratio of attack rates with and without a vaccine—which is expressed as 1–RR. Ranking by reported efficacy gives relative risk reductions of 95% for the Pfizer–BioNTech, 94% for the Moderna–NIH, 91% for the Gamaleya, 67% for the J&J, and 67% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford vaccines.
“However, RRR should be seen against the background risk of being infected and becoming ill with COVID-19, which varies between populations and over time. Although the RRR considers only participants who could benefit from the vaccine, the absolute risk reduction (ARR), which is the difference between attack rates with and without a vaccine, considers the whole population. ARRs tend to be ignored because they give a much less impressive effect size than RRRs: 1·3% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford, 1·2% for the Moderna–NIH, 1·2% for the J&J, 0·93% for the Gamaleya, and 0·84% for the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccines.”
The Lancet Study
Doctors for COVID Ethics
On The accompanying chart:
Pfizer/BioNtech RRR 95.03% ARR From Jab 0.84%
Moderna (NIH) RRR 94.08% ARR 1.24% From Jab
Janssen RRR 66.62% ARR 1.19% From Jab
Astrazeneca/ Oxford RRR 66.84% ARR 1.28% From Jab
The Lancet
“It is also a bit of a Pandora’s box, I think, for health authorities, because if they start acknowledging these effects there is also the huge problem of potential negative non-specific effects that have actually been brought to the attention of the WHO already 20 years ago, but they haven’t really responded with the investigations. So you can see the potential backlash for the WHO, for vaccination programmes, if it actually comes out that some vaccines have carried these negative non-specific effects.”
What the study author is really saying is that exposing one scandal could lead to other scandals being exposed. Upon learning that something that was said to be true was a brazen falsehood, the public might be expected to ask, “Well, what else have these experts been lying about?”
This fits my recent posting theme: The Establishment can’t let ONE scandal be revealed or exposed. The risk – or the precedent this might establish – would be too great for them.
So this is another reason it’s almost impossible for one fraud to be exposed.
Or optimistically that the exposure of one unprecedented, monstrous and genocidal fraud against all humanity might bring down the whole, stinking, rotten corrupt system and all those involved?
That’s my hope – Expose one and the dominoes quickly start to tumble.
Said it before, Edward Dowd needs to get a wriggle on with his exposure of Pfizer’s jab
Pfizer etc killed the trials early and we all know why.
If things were looking good they would have let the trials run and shouted about the results day and night.
It’s actually time to remove blanket immunity from prosecution from vaccine companies across the board. It really isn’t acceptable to privatise the profits and socialise the losses.
well if they are found to be fraudulent they’ll lose that protection immediately.
The 1986 US legislation is the killer. Literally.
Vaccines are mana from heaven for the pharma companies.
Since the USA granted them immunity from liability for harms caused by their products the pharma companies have pushed out a vast number of new vaccine products safe in the knowledge that no matter how lethal they are they get off scott free.
Vaccines have other major benefits-
they inject them into healthy people no need to wait for people to be ill
the safety testing regime is far more lax than for medicines
State governments force many US citizens to take vaccines in order to go to school
Make pharma carry liability for vaccine harms and watch their offerings disappear.
Looking at the excess mortality graph it shows the UK having 2000 excess deaths per million from Jan 1st 2020 to Dec 31 2021.
Is it just me or is that a shockingly low number given this was the worst pandemic ‘eva?
(Not to mention this undoubtedly includes people the medics killed through neglect of other aliments, the vaccine induced deaths, along with the deaths of despair)
She also did a good interview with Dr Sebastian Rushworth recently.
https://sebastianrushworth.com/2022/02/12/non-specific-vaccine-effects-with-dr-christine-stabell-benn/
Hurray for the Scandowegians!
Reading “Empire of Pain” about the Sackler family. They were permitted to sanction all sorts of meds on unwitting consumers for decades…well before Oxycontin too. The results are there for all to see.
These scandals always take decades to unravel, sadly, and the fact is the State and the Establishment are so deeply embroiled in this they’ll fight at all costs to hide any adverse reactions. No doubt it’ll come out when everyone involved is retired or dead and very few will be made accountable.
I’ll be lodging a spoilt ballot paper at this election and any future elections until a genuine candidate appears. What else is there to do?
Democracy is completely broken right now and the UK is a shambles
I think we can comfortably drop the theory part now, this is clearly a conspiracy.
Their lack of transparency and blatant propaganda tipped many of us off in the beginning, using flattery to seduce the stupid into believing “the science™” made them more intelligent than those who were questioning the narrative.
But now that veil of unscientific nonsense is eroding, what will the duped masses do about it?
Probably nothing, maybe project false outrage for five minutes, then they will just revert back to earlier programming, football, soap operas, new phone, new terrorist threat, after all you wouldn’t want to be the black sheep that upsets the flock.
Professor Christine Stabell-Benn from the University of Southern Denmark added that there is “major pushback” to her efforts to investigate the effects of vaccines on all-cause mortality and many regulators and companies simply don’t want to know.
Listen, dearie, can’t you take a hint?
Let me spell it out for you. The last time anyone in public service did an honourable thing was Profumo in 1963. By the end of the 1970s there was no honour anywhere – only the grasping explosion of greed in the 1980s.
By now there is nothing apart from ‘maintaining the narrative’ – the ‘narrative’ which keeps a few mega-rich people on top of the greasy pole. If you don’t cooperate and maintain the narrative, what is left of your promising career will be in the same place as Profumo’s…
We stumbled on in Oz into the 21st century with a couple of politicians resigning for having misled the House.
Now, nobody remembers. Certainly, nobody has followed their example.
Also, the trial mortality data suffer (as Prof. Stabell-Benn herself acknowledges) from small numbers susceptible to freak random occurrences (in one study there are four accident deaths in the vaccine arm versus zero in the control arm) and very short follow-up times.
Why should we accept that the deaths are freak random occurrences rather than effects of the vaccine itself?
Look up her TED talk about vaccines. It’s from 2019.
Doctors for Covid Ethics also just released an excellent paper.
Here it is
https://doctors4covidethics.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/pfizer-moderna-public.pdf
The paper is by two high ranking scientists Michael Palmer and Sucharit Bhakdi and Wolfgang Wodarg the doctor/politician who blew the whistle on Pandemrix in 2009.
PS My understanding is it has been submit to the European Medicines Agency.
I’m sure she said “above” 50 years for age, not under. I thought that was odd.
I hope she has good security!
Since a high proportion of people have been mRNA’ed at least once I’m curious to know the position on blood and organ donations. I’m guessing the guarantee from the NHS will be a guarantee that they can’t give a guarantee of anything now being mRNA free.
The only “guarantee” that you’ll get out of that lot is that the “vaccines” are “safe and effective” i.e. another spin or two of the cracked old 78.
Yes, I believe I’ve now reached the point of already knowing the answers to all my questions in relation to this continuing farce but thought I must put the question on the table, so to speak.
Likewise. I suspect that’s an issue that will be fought out in the courts, sooner or later.
If ever …
BTW I was handed a copy of The Light paper yesterday and it’s very good. I only thought two articles were badly proof-read or a bit ‘iffy’, which is much better than an issue I saw 6 months ago. (The BBC or the Guardian are now *worse*.)
I recommend people who have time to help them with distribution, sourcing stories (or proof-reading…)
Presumably being printed media they’re outside the scope of internet censorship and Mad Nad.
http://www.thelightpaper.co.uk.
Thank you for your link, and bravo to them!
Re proof-reading, I suspect that the BBC and Guardian are now too busy avoiding the truth and creating “narratives”.
The pathogenic spike proteins are the blood of the “vaccinated” – that has now been clinically demonstrated. So where does that put those non-vaccinated needing a blood transfusion?
Why is blood for transfusion use not being tested? Or is it?
I’d imagine not being tested – to test would be to have to admit that there was something wrong with jabbed people and their blood – all those people jabbed to “save the NHS”.
Same issue applies to organs for transplant considering it is known that the spike proteins have been found in organs all over the body courtesy of the evidence of the US pathologist, Ryan Cole MD.
“You gotta be f***ing kidding…”
– The Thing (1982)
It took Benn’s team nearly 4 decades to present their results for the DPT vaccine:
“Among 3–5-month-old children, having received DTP (± OPV) was associated with a mortality hazard ratio (HR) of 5.00 (95% CI 1.53–16.3) compared with not-yet-DTP-vaccinated children. Differences in background factors did not explain the effect. The negative effect was particularly strong for children who had received DTP-only and no OPV (HR = 10.0 (2.61–38.6)). All-cause infant mortality after 3 months of age increased after the introduction of these vaccines (HR = 2.12 (1.07–4.19)).”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5360569/
This is nonsensical – adenovirus “vaccines” cause clots, and they knew this even before they started
https://www.ageofautism.com/2022/04/british-regulator-stalls-clot-ingredients-covid-injections.html
Relative benefit is not a sensible measure for a product given en masse – sacrificing one lot of people to save others. It is not ‘first do no harm’. I believe this is criminal. The reported Yellow Card deaths for the AZ are far worse than Pfizer.
We don’t seem to have all-cause mortality for the AZ trial. We just about do for the Pfizer trial; see Canadian Covid Care Alliance presentation.
Also I think the placebos in the US trials were saline, following one or more court challenges. Probably not in the UK. So another vaccine might have been used in the control group, distorting the results.
That’s right, the Men ACWY vaccine was used in the AZ trial. They were using the Men B in the children’s trial which may have led to some very confusing results
https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n385/rr-1
In fact to the best of my knowledge no children’s vaccines have been trialled against placebo
https://www.ageofautism.com/2019/12/the-echo-chambers-of-public-health.html
The problem though is that any trial which was against placebo would be self-unblinding. The whole process is hopelessly unscientific..
The descent into a culture of lies and deflection seems to know no bounds.
Are they actually testing the limits of the success of the psyop in destroying the critical faculties of the sheep? It will seem that like the lockdowns and ludicrous mask ‘complance’ it has had been a success beyond their wildest fantasies!
So what chance have we got? It appears none at all.
There are two things you can control: your emotions and your expenses.
True before, true now.
I’ve been struggling to control my anger.
Ditto. But we must. For our own sake!
Indeed.
And ditto again. I must admit I am relieved to learn that you also struggle to control your anger – you seem to me to be doing it very well.
I had no idea of how much anger I’ve been “controlling” until I was (very recently) forced to seek medical attention for persistent pain in my jaw I’ve been advised that it’s probably because I’ve been clenching it in my sleep!
A wise medical friend once told me that the best way to deal with stress was to remove the cause of the stress. Good one – but we can’t remove the causes of all our anger, can we?
We can, however, do more of the things we like – and now that the unvaxxed have been readmitted to social life in Oz, there’s a lot more available.
And there’s DS, which always – amidst the awfulness – has something to make me smile and laugh.
Will. The first thing you need to realise is that these are not vaccines. Vaccines (theoretically) stop you getting or spreading the target disease.
From their you don’t even get to talk about herd immunity at all.
These things are pointless poisons.
Well not pointless if you are trying to weaken people’s immune systems, drag everyone onto a digital ID system, make Pharma loads of money, normalise injections of gene altering materials….
We do realise they are not vaccines that has been obvious for two years or more – the problem is that the sheep still believe they are vaccines and are a miracle of modern science and we must be eternally grateful for their successful roll-out!
Three decades of totally dumbing down the population and feeding them with cheap pornography and media garbage has worked a treat!
The critical faculty and power of objective analysis is dead in most brains.
In sharp contrast to the apathy and compliance about Covid “vaccines” and their mandated or blackmailed use, it is interesting to hear the screeching from the likes of Kamala Harris and the rest of the usual people, both in the USA and here, about the proposed overturning of Row v Wade in the USA.
Irony is dead, when KH sounds off about women’s bodily autonomy and choice on abortion, whilst it’s AOK for her and her government, to force experimental “vaccines” into people by threats and lies. The dichotomy was remarked upon by Hartley Brewer on TalkRadio, and no doubt others may also notice this blatant hypocrisy, including interested groups in the UK; but probably not the BBC.
Greek sirens, part woman part fish, and Harpies and Irish Banshees – totally malevolent female creatures, much feared by the ancients.
The world now appears to be over-run with them.
Indeed and had to listen to Calvin Robinson last night on GB news going on and on about how nobody was protecting the rights to the bodily autonomy of the unborn babies and how women should stop using abortion as a form of birth control.
Unfortunately Dan Wooton didn’t point out to Robinson that he had no right to sanctimoniously opine about such dogma when it was a dilemma he was never likely to be faced with having been raped by someone at knifepoint or molested by some paedo elderly family member and be left with an unwanted pregnancy.
Definitely not the BBC!
Thank you AYM.
I have never been able to understand how commentators could have a discussion about the jabs and bring “herd immunity” into it when all the jabs were ever designed to do was to act as a medical treatment to reduce the severity of the illness they related to.
We know this, the question is what can be done? How do we enforce the morons in government/public health – the people that are supposed to be our servants not our masters – to complete a non-biased assessment of the health impact of these ‘vaccines’? I noticed that this government petition on vaccine safety (https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/602171) was given short shrift from these idiots – “The Government commissioned a public inquiry into the pandemic and has no plans for a vaccine safety inquiry. Our surveillance strategy for COVID-19 vaccines provides continuous safety monitoring“.
We are being lorded over by people we (supposedly) chose to serve us. Democracy is long dead, just the illusion of it remains.
The illusion only remains with the deluded.
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Naomi Wolf actually voted for Joe Biden.
With apologies to Mark Twain: ‘It’s easier to have a politician mislead you than to have that politician admit he/she misled you’.
What we are witnessing is a cover up, but at an unprecedented scale.
Let’s call a spade a spade. Whenever this matter is addressed, it should be referred to as a cover up, to put a bit more pressure. Nobody wants to be seen to be participating in a cover up.
Really? Surely they all get promotion and knighthoods for participating in the cover up or ‘keeping their noses clean’?
There are millions of people participating in this cover up, those who believed the lie, took the jab/s and refuse to admit it damaged them or their children.
…
When I first heard talk of population control I thought, no way, not in a million years. Not so sure now, given what I have seen and heard anecdotally as well as reading the literature.
Scary thing is, we are only seeing short term effects right now…
2021 birth rates are going to make for interesting – by which I mean horrific – reading.
For 2020:
Replacements on their way every day!
Apart from half of Africa and the Middle East, there’s 35 million Ukrainians needing a new home, and the UK looks like a nice place. Shift over a bit, will you?
Indeed, the overall birth rate is plummeting, and when you look at who is having kids, well, demographics is destiny.
In which case we no longer have a destiny as our culture is being ruthlessly cancelled all around us.
Our culture is being trashed.
Trashed. By those we trusted to preserve and protect it – and for the most part who have benefitted most significantly from the privilege is has conferred to them over generations.
It seems it is now time to get rid of the indigenous peasants to restore the Feudal Hunting Grounds!
Those currently being imported as replacements they imagine as being easier to manage with no loyalty to the existing cultural order currently being systematically demolished.
They also give themselves the ‘Colonial option’ of “Divide and Rule”, where chaos and the abolition of Human and Civil Rights merely serves to enhance their increasingly brutalist autocratic power over squabbling minorities.
We see from Ukraine that the ordinary people are merely expendable pawns in their genocidal power games .
So why should they be worried about ‘vaccine’ deaths and injuries, when they have all been cooly projected, gamed and ‘factored in’ ?
Would you want to bring offspring into this mad world- I feel so sorry for those younger than me
Will Johnson be giving asylum and a warm welcome to members of the Azov Brigade – or are they already here?
Gives the human Rights Lawyers something to do, they’ve been sitting idle for the last two years.
Yes, we are dealing with stealth, delayed action weapons. Degrading the health of the population seems to be the principal ‘medium term’ aim
My conclusion is that the target date for pretty much ALL that Globocrap are doing is 2030, including population reduction.
I suspect that many reading and contributing to these comments will have anecdotes about blood clots, heart attacks and strokes amongst their friends/families after they’ve had two and particularly three jabs.
I certainly have.
Of course “the authorities” don’t want to investigate. They assured everyone, and continue to insist, that the jabs are safe and effective and they can’t possibly admit they were wrong. Apart from reputational damage, the demands for compensation would sky-rocket.
My next heart attack funeral is for a 37 year old. At least this one is pending an autopsy, unlike the other victims.
A friend of mine died last year less than 24 hours after being “boosted.” No post mortem – according to the Coroner there was no link.
Saw a video yesterday where John O’Looney recounted the story of a 28 year old otherwise healthy unjabbed young woman in hospital for a surgical procedure. Staff persuaded her to have the jab so that she would be “safer while in hospital”. She was dead 9 minutes after she was jabbed.
I saw that one, too. He’s an impressive witness – a straightforward, completely unpretentious, honest man.
Exactly! And he also said that he is witnessing an unprecedented number of deaths of younger people – he said deaths in that category were formerly rare, due to something like a tragic car accident or an incurable cancer.
I was fascinated by his description of how he was treated when in hospital.
Indeed. Snake oil salesmen will never tell you that their wares are neither safe nor effective.
One of the few valid functions of government is to investigate such claims and protect the gullible from such predators.
When a government becomes the poison-peddler, quis custodiet?
Does the term ‘snake oil’ include the ‘vitamins’ and ‘supplements’ the likes of David Icke, Dr Zelenko, and Maria ‘Zeee’ are trying to flog on their websites?
They undoubtedly do, but most vitamins (unless you can afford to seriously overindulge) don’t cause harm. The clue is in the ‘vita’ bit.
Absolutely. I met someone recently who was opposed to all things vax, covid, state control, and all the rest, like we are. But then he tried wrangle his way into my confidence (and others), to peddle a supplement from his mate’s company that would “cure” me of my autoimmune condition. I’d never heard of it before. He started off with a soft approach, and then started to push for me to buy it. I told to him back right off. Why would I not take the V but buy an unknown, unverified product from him? Haven’t seen him since.
You are giving yourself up to the orchestrated campaign by Pharma to discredit vitamins and supplements ( at least 100 years old!).
Clearly some supplements are fake and some are not . We are is an age of massive scams (as the behaviour or Government itself has clearly shown).
The issue, like so many other is in the “Age of Lies”, is judgement by the individual – something now seriously lacking in the population.
Always remember that the core motto of American Capitalism has always been ‘Never give a sucker an even break”
On the contrary. I have huge faith in natural and complementary health. I was a qualified practitioner in that field for many years. In fact it is the use of herbs, essential oils and supplements that I believe has kept myself and my immediate family healthy. I just don’t want to be pressured into buying something from someone I didn’t know, on whim, who I didn’t really feel i could trust. His first impression left a lot to be desired too. Sorry, but how is that discrediting vitamins and supplements?
It depends on what the people EF mentioned are flogging on their websites. If it’s your unknown supplements, fair enough, but if they are actually recommending Vit D, C, zinc, quercetin etc, then I think they are absolutely correct. I’ve been taking the first 3 of those daily for a couple of years and haven’t even had a cold, despite being surrounded by people who have had colds and covid.
I keep a ‘Tiger Stone’ in my pocket to ward off tigers.
Does it work?
Do you see any tigers?
more fool you
I’m sure you have from reading your valuable comments over many months – I just worry that we need to be very wary of inadvertently adding to what will be seen by some as generalised criticism of ‘alternative medicine’ as a whole and the vital roll of vitamins (especially C and D) in combating both the virus and the vaccines.
Nothing should be given away to be be exploited as tacit support for the Pharma Companies permanent propaganda war on anyone who offers bona fide alternatives to their chemical health monopoly and disgusting exploitative ‘vaccine’ profits, which dwarf the activities of any disreputable ‘snake oil ‘salesmen inevitably to be found on the “Alternative “side.
As I said, individual judgement is the key as is the age old saying ‘caveat emptor’.
Thank you. Your comments are too. Yes I agree. Discernment is everything. Big Pharma is doing everything to discredit all sorts of therapies, herbs, essential oils and natural supplements. Its been going on for years.They want to muddy the waters as much as possible to make them seem as though they are some form of quackery. But, by the same token, many “New Age” philosophies are actually being actively promoted by the PTB now! We are in very confusing times, and we all have take responsibility for ourselves. I think there is lots going on to destabilise us as much as possible, from the truth. As always, a healthy body, and a healthy mind is what will get us all through this. How we achieve that, is of course, up to us.
We are on the same page!
Not at all – if you’ve studied Biology and Chemistry (like wot I have) you get some idea of what the human body needs in the way of nutrition. You generally get all you need if you eat ‘properly’, although, of course, it’s impossible to know in what substrate your food was grown in – there could be a lack of any minerals.
There’s probably little harm in taking extra minerals & vitamins now and then to make sure you have everything, but if it’s a regular habit of taking ‘supplements’ then this points to something not quite right.
I’d buy mine from a ‘respected source’ (manufacturer with reputation?) and not from some quack on the Internet who wants to sell you his ‘holistic magic potion’.
When people say they take zinc and Vitamin D3 regularly and that has warded of all evils for the past 20 years, I’m thinking what about all the other minerals and vitamins? You need more than just those two.
Personally I’ve never really bothered with ‘supplements’… we have some vitamin D tablets and fluoride tablets at home, and when I spot them sometimes I might pop one in my mouth “in case it might… Read more »
Sorry EF.
As fluoride is a recognised neurotoxin, similar in its effect to mercury and aluminium, I’m not sure it’s doing your brain any good
The only way to find out is to see where Icke, Zelenko, ‘Zeee’ (as she likes to call herself), and the like get their ‘supplements from’, and you’d have to know what goes on (and see for yourself) where they are manufactured. What do they really contain? Who knows!
Makes you wonder if the T-shirts and hoodies they are flogging are made by enslaved Uighurs… as they say, follow the money!
No
Maybe.
Are they just rebranding vitamins that people could buy generic versions of for pennies? That’s not snake oil – just marketing.
Are they making wild and unsubstantiated claims about efficacy (much like the vaccines)? If so, yes, it’s snake oil. If it’s just a case of saying that it’s a good idea to take them… well, then it depends on the answer to the next question.
Has their safety been credibly called into question for some or all groups (like the vaccines)? If so, it’s snake oil. But if you’re just talking about repackaged vitamins (at a dose that is known to be safe), that would be a no.
Finally, are these people using the power of the state to compel the public to buy and use their products? Are they using that same compulsion groups that are at statistically at no risk from covid? Are they engaging in a massive propaganda campaign that includes wielding state power to influence the corporate press and social media and to censor dissenting views, including the views of dissenting experts? Those last questions don’t make the difference between these things being snake oil or not, but the answers do explain why most… Read more »
Wot, like the Vitamin D the Wah!NHS now belatedly recommends in a dosage far too small to make a difference?
Is that what you call Snake Oil?
Those last two words should have been Greek, if you’re expecting a response from Bunter.
They started off by assuring us that we couldn’t get or pass on Wu-flu if we got vaxxed. Which proves they don’t mind being caught out in a lie, since it was inevitable that they would.
Their intention is to follow lie with lie so fast that you never know which one you are dealing with ( it was an old Goebbels trick).
‘Anecdotes” Do you mean “evidence”?
‘Anecdotes’ cab be dismissed as non- valid exaggerated gossip – dropping dead after the shot and myocarditis in children is not “anecdotal” it is fact – real ‘evidence’ of extreme harm caused by the shots..
The anecdotal “fiction” of ‘success’ ‘is claimed for the ‘vaccines’!
The next question for the moderately curious is why would they want to go to such great lengths to conceal all the harm being cause by the injections – especially as they are even using coercion to totally unnecessarily push them into children?
So many people dare not pose the question because they could not deal with the answer!