Destroy their education. Destroy their jobs and their job prospects. Destroy their social life, their friendships, their mental health. Force them to work long hours at school or in physically demanding jobs in uncomfortable and breath-inhibiting face masks. This is what our country has done to our young people in the past 16 months.
Why? In an attempt (and not a very successful one) to protect a small minority of mostly elderly folk who are particularly vulnerable to one disease while we wait in limbo to develop a vaccine and roll it out to the vulnerable population.
Then do we give them back their freedom? Not at all. Then we move the goalposts, making freedom conditional on more and more people getting the vaccine. Until we make it to so-called ‘Freedom Day’, a month later than originally planned, and Boris Johnson chooses then to tell young people that their freedom to do the things they enjoy will be dependent on receiving a vaccine.
A vaccine that uses experimental technology and was rushed through trials without waiting for the full safety data (trials which will never now conclude as the control groups have been vaccinated). A vaccine, or rather vaccines, which the authorities now acknowledge increase the risk of dangerous blood clotting and heart conditions, particularly in younger people. Vaccines for which there are now more reports of fatalities in the U.S. than all other vaccines put together for the past 30 years.
The E.U.’s own infectious disease journal Eurosurveillance has just published a study concluding that, when it comes to the AstraZeneca vaccine and blood clots, “in young adults, the risks were similar or higher than the benefits”.
Bear in mind this is just considering one side effect based on the reported incidence. It doesn’t take into account other side effects and under-reporting.
That’s the AstraZeneca vaccine, which is now discouraged for under 40s in the U.K. Are Pfizer and Moderna vaccines much better? Warnings have recently been added to them that they cause serious heart conditions in some cases. What else might emerge as the data is properly analysed?
The decision whether to take a particular vaccine, given the risk and potential benefit, is a personal one, and we can hardly blame the minority of young adults who appear to be concluding they’d rather take their chances with the virus, from which they’re also likely to get better immunity.
Any kind of threat of withdrawal of benefits for failure to take a medicine, let alone an experimental medicine, undermines informed consent. For that matter, the paucity of information provided on the real risk of side effects and the real age-specific level of benefit undermines informed consent.
Our young people have been betrayed again and again by this Government, which seems to have reached a place where it regards them primarily as vectors of disease who must be coerced into taking the prescribed medicine to make them clean enough to allow out and about. Yet the evidence that the vaccines are particularly good at preventing the spread of infection is patchy at best.
Our leaders should be ashamed of themselves for how they have abused young people and their trust, jeopardised their health and strangled their aspirations.
Sadly, I don’t think enough of them are sufficiently alive yet to the full horror of what has been pointlessly done to them in the last year and a bit to realise how angry they should be. But if they ever do wake up to it, there will be a terrible political reckoning.
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An excellent summary of the appalling treatment of young people.
The latest twist – vaccine passports are to be necessary for entry to nightclubs, instead of ‘just’ a pcr test – surely shows the true agenda.
The goal is no longer to prevent spread of infection. The government seem intent on signing everyone up to a database, and who knows what abstainers will be excluded from?
Thank you Toby and Will and all contributors to this excellent site. I feel less alone in my fears for the future.
The goal never was about saving the vulnerable or the stopping infection. It was always about profit and control.
The only question left is, whose control?
and how much salt to plough into the land that was formerly owned by them
CCP and Globalists. Those same globalists whose ancestors created Bolshevism in Russia and Communism in Cuba. They were trying to do the same in Germany. It is the huge Banking Families of Rothschild, Rockerfeller, Goldman Sachs. They don’t want the money, they want the power. Their Utopia.
Their tentacles through marriage and bribery created the Democrat Party of America. They fought Lincoln’s slavery bill, they created KKK, they are BLM, Open Society and ANTIFA. They have funds in terrorism and destabilisation around the world.
Until we own up and address this evil, it will return and return. It may even now have succeeded in what it started in 1800s. As libertarians, most of us just want to live and let live. We cannot keep on being so careless with liberty
The control of power hungry, zealous fanatical so called experts,(most of whom are mathematical modellers, not virologists or epidemiologists
Correct but again the author stops just short of pointing out the obvious motives; I despair!
Perhaps you have been left to work it out for yourself.
Well if the motive is genocide for material gain the only way that can be proven is in a court of law. The Bernician filed a PCP which was thrown out but they are due to file another with additional prima facie evidence which alleges the above.
Disappointingly Fuellmich seems to be going nowhere with his Crimes Against Humanity suit.
Brilliant article.
Hoping this shows us that The Daily Sceptic will not be pulling any punches.
This whole shit show including the mass murder from withholding cheap safe effective treatments is to gain control of the population through vaccine ID control passports – simples!
I’m so glad I took Mike Yeadons advice in a video he did about these vaccines a couple of months back – wait, see what happens in the coming months before deciding whether to take up the vaccine offer or not – don’t just have the vaccine so that you can go down the pub or go on holiday – bide your time, be patient because once you’ve had the vaccine injected into your body there is no going back.
I am delighted I held out against the jabs, as well. I can live without Theatre, rugby, Racing, restaurants and even pubs, if they go that far, but I won’t be having these dodgy prophylactics and, the more they bully and coerce me, the harder my heels will dig in.
Agreed. I see, however, that Macron recently talked about the possibility of moving towards compulsory stabs for all. If the French go there, the UK will surely follow, at which point the army will presumably be used to hold one down and stick the poison in our arms, probably simultaneously confiscating all our pssessions!
Well… err…. yes. A more likely scenario is that ‘the authorities’ won’t bother with that – they’ll just have the unvaxxed picked up and carted off to the new prisons, where you’ll be ‘disappeared’. After all, isn’t depopulation their aim?
Before that could happen I would go out and commit hari kari in a very public place. I am absolutely serious about this – I will literally die before I submit to any of these poisonous ‘vaccines’. I’ve lived a long time and enjoyed fun and freedom and I have certain beliefs, so the end doesn’t bother me unduly, except for those I must leave behind.
So no, nothing would induce me to have a needle in my arm which might possibly kill me most unpleasantly. My brother has just had a third seizure since his first jab. These seizures don’t just mean falling over – they mean fractured and broken bones and almost, in his case, being hit by a bus as he fell violently into the road. I beg him not to have a 2nd jab – yet still they are harrassing him over the phone!
Thank God they can’t get at us in the afterlife. But I trust the Devil will have THEM by their scrawny, despotic necks when it’s their turn.
I would like to take someone out before they jab me preferably, in order if preference Johnson Whitty, Vallance, Hancock Mrs Johnson.
Yes, this is exactly where I am with these vaccines. I am happy to be outside in the open so I’ll survive an excluded winter and see where things are up to in the spring.
So you need a few more months to decide whether gambling on an experimental drug is a good idea, rather than just risking a nasty bout of a flu like illness which will leave you immune for life.
And you still need to think about this?
I too have ignored all “invitations” to have the gene therapy jab. I’m lucky that I don’t have to work, travel …. and I can live without attending large indoor events. I can be patient and bide my time quite easily.
I still haven’t had one text or phone call or letter to get jabbed. It’s like I don’t exist (which I’m more than happy about).
Anyone else not had one?
Count your blessings keep off grid.
Well… I dunno. While there are always exceptions, most of the young people I have met during this madness have shown tremendous anger/anxiety towards my views. Not just on Covid, Brexit, personal responsibility etc have nearly all been met with a chorus of ‘phobe’ or ‘ism’.
The extreme lack of critical thinking is shameful. Group think and heard mentality is rife among the young. And a number of them can be nasty little fascists when they get going.
Sometimes I do think ‘What’s the point’ hey? Even if we do manage to pull ourselves away from the totalitarian abys, this young lot will soon pull us in a decade or two down the line anyhow.
If we have failed them, its a complete failure to teach anything about the horrors of Soviet Russia and Mao’s China. Only if we bed that deep into the education system might we be awake enough to never let it happen again.
I agree but I think there is a significant minority – as with adults – who are completely against all this. A homeopath I know has three sons in late 20s and early 30s and they are all unjabbed and against this appalling turn of events. My student friend sent a stonker of an email to his MPs (at home and university) which pulled no punches whatsoever.
If young people have been brainwashed (by education and media) what have their parents and grandparents done to counter it?
Its like Nazi Germany in the 30s, they just don’t ‘hear’ our messages. They physically are repelled by the notion that the state is not right. Its gone way beyond having a constructive conversation over a pint.
I think the young people happy to go along with this probably have parents and family who have lived on a diet of BBC “news” for 18 months. Even if the kids don’t watch it, they have been at home most of this time soaking up the fear and drama…
Agreed, I have seen it in my own family. Its almost impossible for people of my generation ( born in the 50s) to appreciate the extent of ‘common purpose’ education rife in our schools and universities. We might intellectually recognise its there, but don’t understand the emotional capture of these ideas.
Our societies have been primed for ‘hive existence’ for decades. Now the pysop around covid has triggered the response, and its frightening. We have lost the majority of our youngsters. They really want to embrace all this stuff along with all the green blob nonsense about CO2 etc.
I’ve encountered this with my team. I had a bright 30 something working for me. Oxford degree, hard working. Totally on board with the green agenda. Wouldn’t even contemplate everything he had been taught might be wrong. That type of didactic belief system doesn’t work in the function we perform, that requires critical thinking and speaking uncomfortable truths. So he had to go. They weren’t all that bad though, and some of the 20 somethings were fantastically sceptical.
I am nearly 50 and remember the brain washing at school on green matters, and it didn’t work me. I see it not working on my 12 year old either.
I did an environmental science degree and the brain washing was subtle but consistent, at the time I fell for it all. The ‘Gaia hypothesis’ was perhaps the most disturbing looking back now, the idea that planet earth can only sustain a human population a fraction of what we have now. It’s scary how many animal lovers and eco warriors really hate other human beings and see them as a sort of plague on this planet.
“nearly all been met with a chorus of ‘phobe’ or ‘ism’.”
“Scared of a little prick” is what I’ve had thrown at me.
I wonder how many Brits under the age of, say, 30, could even point to where Russia is on a world atlas, or have even heard of the Chinese ‘Cultural Revolution’.
A couple of years ago a friend’s daughter asked us me she needed a passport to visit Cornwall. Straight up- at 17, after spending 11 years in school, she asked this question. We got to talking about travel, and family in Australia and I said it was nice to see a different night sky when we visited. She then asked what I meant and it became clear that she had absolutely no idea what a hemisphere was- although she had heard of ‘an equator’ but wasn’t sure where it was or indeed how many there were. She was however able to point out my shortcomings regarding mobile phones and the EU, so her education hasn’t been a complete waste…
Too late I fear and Bliar made sure the education system was seriously undermined.
Amen.
I see mainly octogenarians and Xers at the demos in London.
The masked young are shopping and show us the middle finger.
I have zero sympathy for them anymore.
They fully deserve and want their serfdom.
The few rebel heros particularly excepted, same with doctors and journalists.
100% spot on.
This is more like it. I hope the young wake up soon and i will support anything they decide when it comes to “pay back”.
Agree that it’s egregious treatment of young people but at the same time the whole thing is egregious, from death via ipad, to confused dementia people pawing at perspex to everyone middle aged living a half- life based on false premises.
Excellent Will.
However, there is always a ‘however’. Most of the above can apply to ALL age groups. As someone nearing 70 yrs , I feel exactly the same is being done to me and my wife, all to coerce the injection and thus bring closer univeral biotech IDs. And those IDs will run our lives, make no mistake. The green tick will only appear when you accept a continuing interference in your lives, and this will inceasingly extend to financial and general social conditions as well as all and every health issue.
With 75% or so with these IDs , your smart phone will determine your social credit, the state will have complete ownership of you. Individualism will be totally contrained within approved parameters.
They have got to the present position just 6 months after starting the jabs, the IT/AI is ready, how long do you think it will take to go the rest of the way; another 6 months to a year max.
This is what makes me angry about all this especially the msm – this is what makes me suspicious about this whole vaccine roll out – why the need to endlessly lie by leaving out vital information about a single death from covid other than to willfully stoke up fear and coerce people into having the jab. When I read stuff like this that is so blatantly scare-mongering propaganda it just makes me even more determined not to have the jab.
Volunteer carer dies from Covid after telling nurses ‘I wish I had’ vaccine – a care worker who was unvaccinated dies of coronavirus aged 51 tells friends and nurses he wished he had the jab.
What this piece of fear propaganda fails to mention in that headline is that he had underlying health issues so he was basically at risk whether had the vaccine or not.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1465249/covid-news-vaccine-carer-glenn-barrett-dies-coronavirus-euro-2020#conversation-wrapper
I note the photo in the Express article has had the f***ing massive burger he’s about to consume cropped out. (It was there in the Daily Fail version ) interesting as he had no spleen. I thought spleen-less people had to be very careful with their fat consumption ?! Obviously not *that* careful looking after his own health
… or is that Gall Bladder ?
Have you seen the new PSA from Australia? I think it’s from New South Wales, with a 30 something woman on a ventilator in the ICU gasping for air. Near the end, she looks at the camera and the voice over says something about ‘covid can affect anyone.’ It’s total, blatant fearmongering. This is what passes for government messaging these days.
What are the chances that she’s an actress?!
100%
https://twitter.com/i/status/1414090146673135617
Hahahahahahahaha! What shit acting! Listen with your eyes closed!
The BBC do this daily from hospitals. “If only I’d taken the vaccine”
It’s disgusting
I’d like to make a few with vaccine side effect sufferers. “If only I hadn’t trusted MHRA”
Note the warning at the beginning…. The film shows a “representation” of a sufferer. Ie it’s fiction and a deliberate attempt to frighten. She’s moving far too great a volume of air freely in and out of her lungs for a kickoff, as any asthmatic or copd sufferer will tell you.
This is quite true. Sadly, the current young folks are the most conformist generation yet. They are more vulnerable too, being unable to articulate grievances or resist, overly narcissistic and unable to assert any strong opinion. Covidianism will not see a 1968 (its real tyranny now, but who’s protesting? Middle aged people).
And Eric Clapton (old bloke)
good article
Great article Will
“Why? In an attempt (and not a very successful one) to protect a small minority of mostly elderly folk who are particularly vulnerable to one disease while we wait in limbo to develop a vaccine and roll it out to the vulnerable population.”
I think the answer to the Why question is not this. The architects of this “pandemic” don’t give a toss about elderly people – they don’t give a toss about ordinary people at all.
No, the answer to the Why question, as is becoming clearer every day, is to:
I appreciate that might be pushing the Overton Window a little too far for an article above the line, but I fear that is the reality.
But I do like the sense of anger coming across in the article. I think we need a bit more of that. Thanks.
I’ve been resisting these conclusions for a long time, but I have to agree now that you are right. It is all just too coordinated and there is so much consistency about the messaging to ignore it any longer. There is a wider agenda, and it is a very frightening one for those of us who think liberty is important, admittedly seemingly a diminishing number of people.
Agree. Multiple areas of work slowly converging – agriculture/public “health”/ surveillance/monetary and one ive begun to appreciate more – data, communication and control of space. Do not underestimate the weight “monetary” has. It is the final nail in the coffin and involves debasing the dollar. Will probably see progress on its replacement towards 2030
With delta you have 1-2% chance of hospitalization (not death), whether you are elderly or not. A recent German study reported 20% of hospitalized patients having organ damage. So, I don’t know, maybe just cut the bs?
Can I ask, where are you getting your news from?
Of course – for hospital admission rates “SARS-CoV-2 Delta VOC in Scotland: demographics, risk of hospital admission, and vaccine effectivenes” by A. Sheikh et al.And the 20% organ damage figure is from an ongoing long covid study by the University Clinic of Ulm (similar results also found in UK by Calum Semple: “Of the entire 73,197 patients in the study, around a quarter (24.3%) suffered kidney injury, 18.4% sustained lung damage and 12.3% developed heart complications.”).
You sound well informed. You mentioned “long Covid”. Can you explain what the diagnostic criteria would be for “long Covid”, ie how one would differentiate it from post viral fatigue syndrome. Thanks.
I am not a doctor, but “kidney injury”, “sustained lung damage”, “heart complications” all sound like measurable criteria to me.
It’s funny how you can cite the “effects” of the Delta variant but make no mention of the myocarditis and pericarditis that are affecting young adults from the vaccines.
It is not funny at all – the vaccines, containing some of the same stuff as the virus, but in a much lower dose, can already cause the very same effects on the heart. But the difference in the dose may be your heart getting a bit upset (the vaccine) or fucked up for good (the virus). Pretty much like the difference of swallowing a single pill or the entire bottle.
You’re are an idiot. It is your heart and even a little damage (or as you put it, getting a bit upset) can have life time negative effects.
And in case you wish to call that organ damage a “post viral fatigue syndrome”, you are welcome.
In the unlikely (1-2%) event of being admitted to hospital after the highly likely event of becoming infected “some day”, would you agree to roll a die to determine whether you also get a “post viral fatigue syndrome” which damages your organs? If not, why not? Would you like to suffer from “post viral fatigue syndrome” for a couple months? If not, why not?
I’ve already had a muscle wasting virus that lasted 9 months; but that has zero relevance here.
As I suspected, you were unable to provide the diagnostic criteria for so called “Long Covid”.
Here’s why; it’s not a new “disease, it’s a pick and mix package of symptoms, (a syndrome) that folk have suffered from following viral infection for decades.
My opinion is that you are one of the many misinformed; either that or your presence here is under more nefarious motives.
Yes, you are correct, your muscle wasting virus has zero relevance here. Would you like getting something like it again, if you could have avoided it? It does not matter how you call it, what matters is, is it a risk or not, can it be avoided or not. And the answer is yes, and yes.
Right so from pontificating about the spefific dangers of “long covid”, it now “does not matter what you call it” ? Good one.
I mentioned my illness because you specifically asked….
Trolling is fun for saddos like you it seems.
Can i lower the tone a little and tell you to Fuck Off!
The damage to organs is likely to be one of the side-effects of the experimental jabs. After all, Whitty let it slip this week that 60% of hospital admissions for the virus are comprised of people who have had 2 jabs!
Ah, but in other news, 100% of admissions are people who drink water. Just remember never to drink the damn stuff again, and you’ll be safe.
Wow! How did you get into the 77th? Take an intelligence test – and fail?
I’m not sure what relevance your comment has to mine. Perhaps you posted it in the wrong place.
Sorry, it was meant to comment on the claim that “vaccines are an attempt protect a small minority of mostly elderly folk”. They aren’t. But this is a claim from the article, not yours.
So you weren’t just hanging your irrelevant comment off a much more popular one to gain it more publicity than it deserved?
I see.
No, I made a genuine mistake there, misinterpreting the quote for his original comment. But I understand how your mind might see a conspiracy developing here, too. If that comforts you, I posted more relevant replies on many other comments today.
“VAERS_ID: 1310120
AGE: 16
The patient developed severe chest pain on the 4th day after the vaccine, he presented to the local emergency room and had the abnormal tests as described below. His symptoms improved rapidly but due to active myocarditis was given recommendations for limited activity to reduce risk of fatal arrhythmia”
VAERS_ID: 1223355
AGE: 19
Fever developed about 10 hours after the injection. Average temp throughout the night and first part of the next day was 104.7, also experienced severe headache, chills, and muscle aches and pains. Throughout the day after the injection 4-10-2021 these symptoms improved but did not completely resolve. Overnight from the 10th into the morning of the 11th I developed a cough and felt short of breath. The afternoon of the 11th my oxygen saturation began to drop upon light exertion (walking around inside my home). I checked in to the Emergency Dept. at around 7 p.m. on the 11th of April 2021. I had elevated D-dimer, and abnormal Troponin. I was admitted with a diagnosis of myocarditis.
It’s not BS. It’s a matter of choice. Most younger people are at little risk of covid, but they are at risk from the vaccines.
There have been other studies that show microclots in 62% of people who’ve had one of the covid vaccines. Those will also cause organ damage.
Perhaps we should be taking a better look at prophylactic medication instead.
https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?IDNUMBER=1080840
https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?IDNUMBER=1187918
https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?IDNUMBER=1199455
https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?IDNUMBER=1225942
https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?IDNUMBER=1242573
https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?IDNUMBER=1078352
https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?IDNUMBER=1105115
https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?IDNUMBER=1209903
https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?IDNUMBER=1346657
‘Wipe out small businesses and sole traders to help consolidate the power of big business’
This is the same as Stalin wiping out the Kulaks (prosperous peasants) in the 1920’s. The reason was not only to concentrate power but also to eliminate people who are independent.
It was also, of course, to limit the options for food, and make the population 100% dependent on the state.
Food shortages will be next, you can guarantee it.
Lots of empty shelves in Tesco today.
Prices notably on the UP.
Yes fewer masks but less food too. Some weird shortages like artificial sweeteners and non-vegan milk
The point about getting people accustomed to injections is that at some point in the near future a real Death jab, as opposed to the randomized versions currently used, will be launched and the sheeple will go running, arms exposed, begging for the needle. Only this will be a guaranteed KILL shot.
Why are you posting this meaningless VAERS graph?
All that this graph illustrates is that many events were reported. Many events were reported because there were many millions of people to report about – unlike in previous years, the majority of population.
If you want to claim dangerous side effects, you must compare this data against the statistical occurrence of the reported ailments (i.e. against control group without vaccine, the entire population).
Which is precisely what the monitors of vaccine safety are doing, and which is precisely why they say the vaccine is safe / much less risky than getting the virus.
Blatantly ignoring basic logic, and you call yourself a “sceptic”?
Pretty much the entire population gets the standard suite of inoculations from pretty much childbirth. What on earth are you on about
Nope, only the youngest the get a standard suite of vaccinations. Certainly not 60+ year olds, hospice inhabitants, or even middle-aged people. And I doubt that minor side effects for standard vaccinations are reported as fervently as they are for a new drug. In any case, the error of ignoring background occcurrence in data evaluation is very obvious – I assume it also to the author. So it is indeed a very valid question to ask why he is knowingly making this error to further his agenda – destroying his own credibility with a single short article.
There are not “standard” vaccinations; they are all at some point new. The VAERS data is robust but in all likelihood an undercount, and the US ALREADY vaccinates tens of millions per year, as an example, almost every child receives a varicella jab and has done since 1995. The AEs reported from that large scale vaccination programme are less than a hundredth of those from covid jabs.
So, the deaths and other AEs are not simply an artefact of scale. Something is very wrong here.
Weren’t those 60+ year olds never given vaccines in their lives? Polio, smallpox, for example.
“Open VAERS
Age 1
Sex M
Hypotonic, Hyporesponsive episode, Infant died: Reyes text Syndrome. Vaccine given for routine immunizations.
READ FULL REPORT >
VACCINE TYPE(S): DTP, OPV
VACCINE NAME(S): DTP (TRI-IMMUNOL), POLIO VIRUS, ORAL (ORIMUNE)”
Other vaccines get reported.
The VAERS system is known to on pick up a small portion of the true number. If we said that its 10%, that’s potentially 100,000+ deaths in the U.S.. from CV19 vaccines.
I’m interested in the rush to down-vote this comment – it betrays a statistical blindness.
rayc is absolutely right in terms of the taking to task of nonsense, even if he’s wrong in his conclusion.
The flaw is so f.ing obvious – and opens the way to denial immediately : “See – Sceptics are basically data illiterate!”
All that hard graft of data analysis pissed up against the wall by an alternate gullibility.
There is no “anti-VAERS”, collecting data on the unvaccinated, not in real time.
Below I have addressed the false claim that nothing on this scale has been done before.
What’s confusing me also is that this is not a relative count (unlike the calculations behind the 99% efficacy of vaccine marketing claim). It is an absolute count- the more you vaccinate the higher this count will go. It is also purely deaths and no other side effect.
You don’t need a real time anti-VAERS for understanding incidence of conditions that occur each year, every year throughout the population.
the graph itself is meaningless – the insinuation of it, that there are an unacceptable level of adverse reactions by any criteria and including any demographic, is undeniable
My point exactly. It blows smoke on the issue, rather than clarifying it. It is a juvenile error that shouldn’t be tolerated here – it’s the sort of pseudo-statistical shite I’ve been fighting against for eighteen months.
As long as the actual data is not presented it’s all we have to go on. And in what way does it differ from the various graphs of doom that the Covid fanatics roll out regularly – other than this actual data (albeit simplified) rather than conjecture.
If you want to be a purist and fight with one hand tied behind your back go for it. You’ll lose nobly.
The graph is a powerful visual representation of the reality of a vaccine that other reports have shown cause more harm than good in certain age groups.
If the opposition want to debunk it then it opens them up to having to give us actual data, and to defend their differentiation of deaths post positive test vs deaths post vaccine.
At the end of the day, the vaccine is damaging more people than would ever be allowed or has ever been allowed. That’s indisputable. This is a way of illustrating to people who don’t want to lock themselves ina dark room with a calculator.
No, you do not correct mistakes by making an even bigger mistake. Also, extremely hypocritical and laughable to utilize the same “withholding data” technique as those you normally criticize for censorship. As I said, one article, and the author’s credibility is already zero for any thinking individual who reads it.
The graph is from the OpenVAERS website.
What am I missing?
Ok, I’ve clearly I missed something…???
Unfortunately we aren’t given that data (I wonder why) We also have a situation where any death within 28 days of a positive test is called a Covid death but in trying to debunk the claims around vaccine deaths the defence is that it is uncertain whether the vaccine caused the death or was coincidental.
You cannot – with a straight face – have it both ways and it is clear to anyone listening that the reason for doing so is disingenuous.
You can fool some people some times, as they say, but this is such a poor attempt at it that it beggars belief. And it won’t be believed – this is the sort of thing that will trip you up in the end. The attempts to muddle data are getting more and more contorted in their own desperation all the time.
It is quite clear from US data that deaths from the vaccine are way, way above anything that has ever been tolerated before. It’s undeniable and impossible to hide. The level of “coincidental” death is severa orders of magnitude above anything that it can reasonably be compared to and other vaccines have been withdrawn with a tiny fraction of the number of adverse events.
You argument is weak, even by recent standards, and people are not as stupid as you think they are.
https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data
You give a glass of water to all 80+ year olds in the country, and you see how many “intolerable side effects” of water you will experience within a month….
There have been more deaths reported to VAERS for the Covid vaccines than for all other vaccines combined in the last 20 years. That is a like-for-like comparison. If you add up all the vaccines given in the last 20 years it would come to far more than those given against Covid.
Almost all children in the U.S. will receive vaccinations, quite a lot of them. That’s millions of vaccines over 30 years. Some cause death. Millions of flu jabs have been given out. A few people die after those.
The numbers of vaccines given over the past 30 years will exceed the numbers given out for covid. The numbers of deaths for covid vaccines greatly outnumber all the deaths for all other vaccines put together. And that’s just in 6 months.
Yeah, just keep on comparing children to people in hospices.
That’s just a daft statement considering the vaccines are now being rolled out to all adults. However, if you want to play this game, then lets compare the adverse effects of the Covid vaccines to the adverse effects of all flu vaccines for the past 30 years, since the vast majority of those receiving it are elderly.
I take your point.
The birth cohort each year in the US is about 4m babies, so you cannot compare infant vaccinations to the VAERS data for a 6mo vaccination campaign for all aged 12+, which has reached many more millions of people.
What we need to do is compare the VAERS data for those aged 65+ (There are Around 70m people aged 65+ in the US) with a normal year, because around 2/3 of US adults in this age group get an annual flu shot. This is broadly comparable to those who will have had a corona jab in that age group.
In a professional capacity, I have modelled vaccine sales forecasts. So those numbers are ballpark right.
Either way though, I’ve never heard of a mass vaccination campaign that has caused so much harm, and been allowed to continue. This is beyond criminal.
A brilliant and passionate article. Thanks.
This isn’t about a virus. The government want us to think that it is, so they can blackmail everyone into getting injected with some experimental shit and try to justify the need for vaccine passports, aka digital IDs. If we don’t resist this with all our might, we’re fucked.
You can still get vaccinated and then resist with all your will. In fact, this is the most reasonable way to behave under current cirumstances. In a theoretical world in which everyone was vaccinated, there would be no need for vaccine passport, obviously.
In fact, there is no need for a vaccine passport in any sort of world; just let the unvaccinated get sick and learn from their own mistakes.
But it is hard to convince moral apostles who are hell-bound on rescuing even the unwilling from themselves, kind of like you protect a suicidal person from committing a suicide. This is likely not so much of good heart or because of some grand malevolent intentions, but simply because of the huge cumulative costs of treatment, compared to the cost of vaccination. If a big number of people DOES get sick, and economy collapses more than it has, the politicians will be blamed that “they did nothing to prevent the disaster”.
Anyhow, what would be your solution, if you were the government and confronted with groups of people who want to risk hurting themselves and causing bills that need to be footed by everyone else?
Seriously? Did the government ban gay sex in the 80s? Did they close the gay clubs? It’s an exact parallel and shows how illiberal current proposals are.
Just answer the question.
ARR = ~1% – and massive sunk costs landing in the national accounts?
Any more questions
What would I do? Nothing. We have ALL been exposed. If this is about what it purports to be about, protection from a novel, natural virus, we need do nothing more. We mostly have immunity, the most affected have been vaccinated, no one else needs to be any more afraid of covid than they are of flu and certainly much less afraid than of cancer or heart disease.
By the way, the argument normally made at this point is “oh, and you are smarter than every government in the world are you?” and my answer to this is apparently fucking yes!
Unless there is something – something big – we are not being told, or unless this is nothing to do with a virus at all.
Doing nothing does not solve the problem of the additional expenses. If your stand is “fuck the expenses, let them get sick and/or die, and let the public pay all it costs”, and finally the enraged public comes to you, the politician, and rips your head off and pisses down your neck, then your “solution” is acceptable.
Otherwise, I find it somewhat lacking.
There is not “something big”. There is the simple reality of 1-2% vaccine refusers who encounter the delta (or some new variant, as it may be) getting hospitalized and everyone else footing the bill. It’s really as simple as that. Also the reality of hospitals suddenly clogging up in a few places (as has occassionally happened in NY, LA, Italy, India, Brazil etc. etc.), which causes public outrage. You have to deal with it “somehow”. And I’m sorry, you still have not come up with an idea which would prevent the effects described above.
The risk for most people from the virus is virtually zero.
The increasing numbers of serious adverse reactions from the experimental jabs for people who will not die from Sar-Cov-2 demonstrates that the risk/benefit claims don’t hold water.
The way to deal with it is open up emergency hospitals to take the additional patients, and use retired medical staff, or even the military to assist.
It isn’t to lock people in their homes for months on end.
The government had a plan for dealing with a pandemic. They panicked and threw it out the window. They were suckered by Chinese propaganda, and the panic in Italy, where those overwhelming numbers of patients turned out not to be mostly covid patients, i.e. only 12% were.
Yes, it’s been done (e.g. the very first emergency hospitals in China). But it’s still very costly, and depending on the scale of the problem, potentially even impossible (because of lack of staff, not lack of money). So compared to the simple, cost-effective solution of vaccination, not a great policy.
However, if the vaccination turns out to stop being effective at some time and the pandemic does not subside (as I think is in face quite likely), this will be the sort of solutions (along with even more supporting “authoritarianism”) will likely need to be resorted to.
It’s still worth to try the cheaper methods before you invest on the expensive ones. This has been the strategy of all governments throughout the entire pandemic – basically trying to muddle through with as little effort as possible while selling to the public they are doing great work (but that’s just everyday politics).
“just let the unvaccinated get sick and learn from their own mistakes”
Or not, as the case may be. The latest close contacts who’ve caught SARS have been vaccinated.
Yes but they have good SARS
Of course, most would not get seriously sick at all, and a few would get seriously sick and still not learn anything. But trust me, even if not you personally, but just people you personally know (from your unvaccinate bubble, so to say) start getting seriously sick, it provides quite an incentive for changing minds. That’s why I love the whole “Freedom Day” experiment (except it will most likely be subverted before it takes the intended effect).
Utter drivel. They will only throw you a few crumbs for that effort.
Anyhow, what would be your solution, if you were the government and confronted with groups of people who want to risk hurting themselves and causing bills that need to be footed by everyone else?
Simple. Ban private cars.
… and rock-climbing … and swimming … and … and …
I suggest money where mouth is … just commit hari-kiri and curtail all further expenditure on your health funded by the community as a whole.
That apart … the harm caused by the insufficiently tested snake-oil seems to be loading the health services with voluntary cases of inoculation self-harm..
In your alternate reality, hospitals are filling up with vaccination victims, I see.
But ignoring this baseless fantasy, you still have to do something about all those real cases, infected with the real virus, and potentially suffering for a couple months after the initial hospital treatment. That’s expensive, much more so than the $20 (soon to become $150 when Pfizer has its way) with an extra 1:10000 risk of complications.
Rayc, the risk to most is zero. What do you know about the risks of a permanent vaccine years down the line?
Oh and forgot to mention, there’s a very cheap drug available that alleviates all of our proble.ms – its called ivermectin
Ignoring that you would have to take it very early before the symptoms (and how would you know – you probably also refuse testing), the drug has not been found all that effective to date. Was it a wonder solution, there would not have been the huge fuckup in India (where I hear it is routinely available and used for treatment).
No, you’re wrong. Some states have banned its use. Others which have not have successfully solved the problem.
Let me add to that. Check the potential sue case the Indian Bar Association will make on a scummy WHO chief scientist for spreading this misinformation surrounding ivermectin. States such as Uttar Pradesh have reduced cases and deaths through its use while Tamil Nadu suffers under the ban
Well, doctors are not supposed to prescribe patients drugs that are not yet known as safe or effective for the purpose of a particular treatment. From what I heard, it was oxygen that helped the seriously ill patients through, not a wonder pill of ivermectin (maybe it could be used as prophylactic, but when you start gasping for air, perhaps too late).
This “banning” is mostly because of liability problems, imagine being a doctor and patients asking you for some newest quackery that has not gone through tests and afterwards potentially suing you for malpractice. Another big financial problem there.
I’m all for large scale clinical trials that demonstrate that ivermectin is a wonder cure for covid (some are ongoing), but so far the data is just not there.
And until it’s there, you can find yourself in one of those “banned” states or self-medicating with doses that may cause additional harm (as has been the case with some other alternatives, e.g. OTC budesonide). Perhaps it will hurt you more than the new experimental vaccine – or perhaps it will just do jack shit. Up to you to either trust the ivermectin peddlers or “the medical establishment”.
India’s problems began when they stopped using Ivermectin due to political pressure from the WHO. As mentioned below, the Indian Bar Association is suing the WHO chief scientist over their advice about Ivermectin. Most states have restarted using Ivermectin and their cases have been plummetting virtually as fast as they went up and, no, this is not due to the magical vaccines as vaccination rates remain low.
A few of youlow caste trolls out today, DS over the target then?
No, it is far from zero. Now what? Where is your data for the zero risk?
So 1.5 yrs of the viruses existence isn’t enough realized data for you? Are we going to start arguing about the statistical facts surrounding hospitalizations and deaths among healthy and young people?
A few millions of dead people sure is enough data for me, but it does not, in any way, support your “zero risk” assessment. Though I guess it’s ok, some people can see black and call it white.
Ah, the healthy young people, I guess just like the healthy young Indians you saw queuing up for oxygen tanks in Delhi… Or the healthy young people being treated in ICU in a hospital in your town (just give them a call).
We are talking about an infectious disease here, not cars. What do you want to do about the infectious disease, to which a significant minority people voluntarily expose themselves, causing avoidable costs to the public, and apparently also against the will of the majority?
Let me put another example, suppose huge numbers of migrants are allowed in who subsequently start vandalizing public property. Would you make laws to prevent this, or would you just fund the repairs?
Again, nazi-boy. HIV. You just described HIV there. You KNOW this don’t you? You do know the shit you are coming out with?
If random people fucked you in the supermarket without you noticing, then yes, HIV would be a great analogy.
Well thats a good example of symptomatic spreading of a virus. Tell me how does one spread a virus asymptomatically such as this amazing one we are confronted with right now. I genuinely want to see examples of viruses that do this. Someone with HIV is permanently symptomatic
Huh? There is plenty of HIV carriers who have no symptoms (the disease is called AIDS). And plenty of asymptomatic spreaders of other respiratory diseases (e.g. flu). So what was your point again?
Do they? Someone who has HIV has permanent immune suppression. That’s a symptom. Can you spread AIDs? That’s a genuine question.
If you don’t show flu symptoms do you spread it?? I’d love to see that research
Yes, being a HIV carrier you can spread HIV, which will make other people develop AIDS. Hope I answered your question. A bit shocked there are people unaware of this, honestly.
Provide your proof that the unvaccinated cause avoidable costs to the public, over and above the costs caused by the vaccinated.
What proof do you want? Are you claiming that hospital works for free or is paid in full by the patient? Are you claiming there are no unvaccinated people admitted to hospitals? Are you claiming that the vaccines do not prevent hospital admissions? Are you claiming that no people are being treated for symptoms that last several months after the infection? Have you seen the stats from the US (99% hospital admissions unvaccinated – with half of population having been vaccinated already)?
Just FO back to the 77th.
So, you don’t have any proof. Thought not.
You got me there – next you are going to ask me for proof the Earth is round. And if I cannot provide you the proof, it can only mean it’s flat. Doubtlessly.
That 99% is incomparable to any other countries reporting such data. So is it down to the CDC not counting vaccinated over 25CTs but do count unvaccinated? That’s all I can think.
But one thing, that 99% is total nonsense
You were writing about people “wanting to risk hurting themselves” which causes a cost to be met by “everyone else”. “Driving around in a car” is a perfect example of that. It’s actually a much better example than what you were supposedly referring to as “cars” clearly cause “car accidents” while “people are exposing themselves to unacceptable levels of risk” is just the political credo of the people who are in favour of the current corona politics.
For “cars”, the cause-and-effect relation is actually there. For COVID-19, it’s just conjectured that things could have turned out differently if something else had been done instead.
But that’s actually just a tangential question: The NHS is a taxpayer funded service and everyone is suppoed to have the right to get treated by it should this become necessary. This necessarily implies that a lot of people pay a real lot of money for and that only a fairly small minority actually profits from this at any given time.
If you’re opposed to this idea, than, there can be no NHS. It’s not just for providing cover for the (actual and more-or-less hypothetical) “health risks” you are choosing to take. Say, a very common cause of serious accidents, take a bath in a bathtub. It’s also for the others.
The car analogy is flawed simply because we have no vaccine which would eliminate 99% of car accidents over the next few months, while still allowing people to drive cars. If there was, it would indeed be quite reasonable to postulate that all car drivers take this vaccine… Well, we have a much less effective measure called “driver’s license”, which we already mandate to all car drivers. Do you now see how artificial and unconvincing your argument is?
Another example: the NHS is publicly funded, and it helps self-harming drug addicts, from public money, too. However, it is in no way a supportive argument that people at risk of becoming drug addicts should not be prevented from doing so (e.g. by prohibiting drugs). This is a matter of cost/benefit analysis.
There is very little currently which speaks that it’s more beneficial for the public if individuals forego the cheap, simple, effective, preventive measure we have. It’s not like forbidding people from taking baths, again, your analogy does not hold water.
It’s a bit as if you were an insurance company and tried to argue that people who do extreme sports should not pay higher dues because of their individual freedom, or that a car owner should not be required to buy liability insurance. Yes, they are free, but their individual choices are causing externalities, and it’s only fair for them to cover the cost of such externalities. Nothing dramatic, just a simple consideration of your freedom vs. others’ freedom (e.g. to be operated in a hospital not clogged by having to tread vaccine refusers/covid deniers).
Since you’re ignoring my statements in to repeat your’s, I’ll take the liberty of ignoring your’s too.
Where did you get the idea that conducting an (open-ended) mass vaccination campaign targetting millions of people plus the costs sunk into development of the vaccines themselves must have been cheaper then treating comparatively few people in hospitals?
99% effective folks
I don’t we need to listen to anymore
“Anyhow, what would be your solution, if you were the government and confronted with groups of people who want to risk hurting themselves and causing bills that need to be footed by everyone else?“
You could ask that question of any public health issue – obesity, smoking, drinking, stress etc etc. I don’t see any blackmail or coercion happening in those potential killers. However, there is now a new kid on the block – adverse reactions to the experimental shit. Funny how many people are getting sick now they’ve been vaccinated. The unvaccinated, on the other hand, tend to be a much more healthy bunch. I guess that’s because they’re more inclined to take personal responsibility for their health rather than turn to big pharma and the government for a “quick fix”.
Once again, an infectious disease is a different public health issue from a non-infectious condition; and it is much more difficult to put coercion for those long-term problems you named, compared to coercing people into getting a vaccine, presumably just ONCE. Of course, some coercion is still being done (e.g. huge tax on cigarettes), and apparently nobody is complaining (except the smokers maybe). So why the huge opposition to a ONE-TIME vaccine which has been already tested and proved safe for billions of people??
Your claims about the unvaccinated group being “more healthy” or vaccination side effects causing an additional burden on the health system are baseless. If the side effects were as terrible as imagined by you whackos, every family doctor would be up in arms by now.
“One-time vaccine”. Ha ha ha ha ha
Yes, one-time. If it turns into a vaccine subscription (for which the pharma companies are very keen), it will cause resistance in much broader parts of population than the current whacko covid deniers, and the politicians will have to bend under the pressure, just like you are dreaming of.
But right now, we are indeed talking about a one-time intervention. There is even a study which shows the vaccine does provide lasting, if imperfect immunity. This season’s boosters (proposed by Pfizer) have been rejected by US politics already. The politicians are well aware they cannot take side of pharma entirely, the current money grab season only lasts as long as the public at large is not too pissed off (that’s also why they are dropping masks, lockdowns, and what not).
You aren’t worth a minute more of my time so I won’t be replying to any more of your stupid comments clearly aimed at taking over this comments section. I guess Will is too close to the mark for the 77th’s liking.
“If a big number of people DOES get sick, and economy collapses”
Operative word: If.
The only collapse of the economy has been through lockdowns and other measures.
If a big number of people were going to get sick, it would have happened by now. The virus isn’t going to wait 18 months or more then suddenly strike down large numbers of people.
You’re nuts. I would do NOTHING.
Just like I wouldn’t round up all the overweight people and send them to a heavily guarded fat camp where they’d do hard labour on meagre rations until their BMI fell below 25. Because if they want to live their lives like that, and discharge their social responsibility through paying their taxes, even though it risks diabetes (which consumes a vast chunk of the NHS budget), IT IS NONE OF MY FRICKING BUSINESS
You’re nuts. I would do NOTHING.
Just like I wouldn’t round up all the overweight people and send them to a heavily guarded fat camp where they’d do hard labour on meagre rations until their BMI fell below 25. Because if they want to live their lives like that, and pay their taxes, even though it risks diabetes (which consumes a vast chunk of the NHS budget), IT IS NONE OF MY FRICKING BUSINESS
However I WOULD give them much better advice. Hint: the “epidemics” of obesity, diabetes etc. correlate almost exactly to the imposition of high carb low fat diets back in the eighties. Before then, well there were always fat people and diabetics but far fewer of them. My mother knew that if you wanted to lose weight you cut back on sugar and starch. When she was young they still called dieting “Banting” the first time round. Search on William Banting Letter On Corpulence. It still works!
Once you’ve fcked your immune system that is it! There is no going back, it cannot be undone.
Bravo! About time someone said it, as it is. Let’s not pussyfoot around here – Johnson and co., are guilty of crimes against humanity and domestic terrorism.
A friend of my daughter (who is 16) asked her why she hasn’t been vaccinated yet and then went on to say to her not to listen to her dad (me) and just go and get it. WTF???!!!
Well, yeah, if your dad is being stupid, what can you do?
He’d have to go a long way to equal your dribbling open-mouthed credulousness!
Don’t feed the spook
Whilst I agree with the thrust of this article, the use of that VAERS data in the graph is a disgrace – worthy of the BBC.
There is no point in that data unless it is standardized. Only a statistical illiterate would fail to notice that. Tarring ourselves with simple propaganda methods is stupid.
The problem is that the VAERS data is the only data available (along with the Yellow Card and European one) so that is the only data we can work with. In the past, vaccines were halted after a only a minimum amount of deaths. Whether the almost 12,000 deaths reported to VAERS can be attributed to the vaccines can be debated but the point is that there are absolutely NO investigations by the FDA into any of that data. They are sweeping it all under the rug which is a massive issue in my opinion. They want people to believe these vaccines are safe then start investigating all these reports, which by the way, as the article says, there are more adverse reports than 30 years of all vaccine reporting put together.
No, it is not the only data available. There are also publications on the background incidence of the various conditions. As cited and taken into account in the official safety reports for the vaccines. This is also how the actual risk of severe complications from the vaccine (currently estimated at 1:10000) is determined.
What I don’t quite understand is why the authorities are not informing the public how the safety figures are calculated – opening doors to the sort of silly accusations you’ve just expressed. I suppose the job of the scientists involved is not really public communications and the politicians are too dumb to realize that saying “it’s safe, the scientists said so, trust us” is not enough for those segments of public who have no trust whatsoever.
“As cited and taken into account in the official safety reports for the vaccines.”
Taken from a small segment of the population and within a specific age group, for example, nobody under the age of 18 were included in the original safety trials. Not to mention long term safety is still ongoing as the trials don’t wrap up until 2023/24. Not to mention that the control groups for said trials have now been given the vaccines so I guess we’ll never know what the actual safety outcomes of the vaccines will be.
But yeah, keep telling yourself that they are totally safe.
I am not talking about the original studies, I am talking about ongoing monitoring. Every few months a new safety report is published by German PEI for example.
No, they are not totally safe. You have a risk of 1:10000 of getting into hospital after vaccine. At the same time you have a risk of 1:100 of getting into hospital after infection. You are picking the lesser evil. What’s difficult to understand?
“You have a risk of 1:10000 of getting into hospital after vaccine.”
1 in 31,000 people vaccinated in the UK have died shortly afterwards.
1 in 150 people have experienced adverse reactions significant enough to trigger a Yellow Card report.
The MHRA tells us that they believe Yellow Card reports constitute only 10% of the actual adverse effects to a pharma product.
Your stats are way off.
The Yellow Card reports also include expected reactions, and indeed this substitutes the great majority of the reports. As for death rates, it is pretty much the easiest thing to compare those death rates with those of the (age-adjusted) population at large. And of course it’s been done by safety monitors (and vaccine manufacturers themselves), and no alarming outliers have been found.
Do you think the govt (and soon the vax manufacturer) would be happy to be sued by thousands of people for their serious adverse reactions?
And if as you suggest, they do not care about serious side effects, why do you think the thrombosis and heart conditions have been publicized so widely and even led to official and permanent suspensions of some of the vaccines in some countries?
Hint: the most they care about is money. If they can have a great placebo which does absolutely nothing and the government still keeps buying it, that would be the perfect drug. But the government would have a hard time justifying buying it if it did nothing. And so, we have an effective, (comparatively) safe vaccine, which is also making the manufacturers filthy rich.
I do think…and I know they don’t care about side effects, serious or otherwise. They didn’t publicise the problems with the vaccines, they were found in other countries, who actually do care. Your Overlords had to admit to the problems only when forced.
if I remember rightly your Fuhrer and his MSM lapdogs tried very hard to malign the countries involved in telling the truth, calling it ‘vaccine envy’ I believe!
Pity those “expected reactions” which are largely more than a sore arm were not pointed out to the general populace beforehand to allow informed consent then.
The safety monitors are who exactly? mHRA are certainly collating the reports, but not investigating any obvious trends or concerns and manufacturers are hardly likely to find any alarming outliers in groups they were neither trialling nor monitoring.
Those thrombosis and heart conditions that have called a halt to certain vaccines in other countries have not been accepted here in the UK…. we carry on regardless.
As I understand the vax manufacturer is indemnified and therefore has no hazard…the govt vaccine harm payments are paltry and difficult to get, so no risks there then.
Sadly we will have to wait another winter at least before we have any idea whether these vaccines are either effective or comparatively safe….meanwhile there are safe and comparatively effective drugs which have been surpressed to allow this emergency vaccine approval.
And yes, making pharma filthy rich….a continual cash cow of boosters and all the other clot busters, heart medication, anti inflammatory etc etc ….. win / win unless you are one of the unfortunate outliers, whose numbers are growing and whose fate is totally disregarded…. at least we should dignify their demise with a proper investigation into whether the vaccine saviour actually killed them
Excellent post.
The US definitely indemnified the vaccine manufacturers, therefore, any one that has a serious adverse event cannot sue the manufacturer for anything. I’m in Canada, and the Canadian government also indemnified the manufacturers from any liability associated with adverse events. So there is no incentive for the manufacturers to put out any safety information that would be a detriment to their vaccine. Indeed, in Canada we have banned the use of the Astrazeneca vaccine because of the blod clotting only after it was used on thousands of people. Now, people are being told to get either the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine even though the FDA and Moderna has said vaccines should not be mixed. In this case, they are different vaccines, Moderna being the mRNA while AZ the viral vector vaccine. After the FDA said they should not be mixed the Canadian government basically said, no it is fine to mix them and there are no safety concerns. Hmmmm, who to believe??? Now Facebook has removed a Canadian adverse reactions support group where there were many stories of people allegedly affected by the vaccines. It was growing by 1000 people per day and reached 100,000 yesterday so off it went.
Reports out of Israel show that vaccine effectiveness (in this case, Pfizer) has dropped to about 60% I believe. So speaking about risk, well, in my age group (50-59) in Canada only about 900 people have died in over a year and the majority of them had underlying health conditions. In fact, 95% of deaths in Canada come in people over the age of 60 with most having at least one comorbidity. Further, 75% of those deaths came in long term care residences (where life expectancy is less than 2 years anyway) and hospitals. So, IMO there is very little risk from Covid to me personally and none to my kids (14 deaths in Canada in over a year of people under the age of 20, again with other illnesses) so the vaccine is not necessary.
I truly believe there is a misinformation/censorship campaign going on within the government, media and social media companies. I just can’t figure out why they are doing this but they certainly have made everyone believe this is the equivalent of the Black Plague…including you it would seem.
“Do you think the govt (and soon the vax manufacturer) would be happy to be sued by thousands of people for their serious adverse reactions?”
The manufacturers are indemnified.
The government can ignore the reports and they are.
when we have ALL been exposed to infection, where are the hundreds of thousands who should be represented by your 1:100, soldier boy?
As for long-term safety – two questions:
listen squaddie punk, can you tell me what the mechanism of the myocarditis link is, and how this occurs if both mRNA and spike proteins do not move from the immunization (sic) site?
“If you think the Chinese-lab developed virus is so much safer than the vaccine, what exactly is the reason for this belief?”
Truly bonkers.
The same people who created this virus are now offering you the antidote. Surely we can trust them? Is that what you are asking? Jesus wept
A pretty important point, overlooked by almost everyone, is that everyone in the trials was tested for Covid, and covid antibodies meant instant exclusion.
No trials have been conducted in infected populations. Except this one, now. The one with the big deaths spike.
What else do we use to illustrate it? We don’t have stratified Covid vaccine death data. Covid deaths are completely stratified by age. Median age of Covid death is in the 80s. What is the median age of Covid vaccine death? Without this information how can a 20 year old possibly give informed consent. Why aren’t we being given it? Why wouldn’t a 20 year old be suspicious they aren’t given it. I could go on.
The ferocity of the new troll shows that this article hit the nerve of the brigade.
He’s posting every few minutes arguing with everyone.
Two new trolls I think…
They are probably at adjacent desks, fighting over the fan and wondering who is in the barrel tonight
They are “fighting” the enemies of the state, don’t you know?
i.e. us.
Fighting? Not yet. But they will be soon if this keeps up. Soldier boys are going to have to come out from behind their desks.
Imagine spending your life writing propaganda at the behest of global villains. Imagine how proud your parents would be. All of that time spent in education – even a university degree perhaps, and you end up working for the bad guys against the interests of the population of the country which raised you.
Sad.
Sociopaths are the ones for that kind of work. Married to “the state and the cause” and hating their fellow countrymen.
Spoken like a true believer / cult member.
I’m just an ordinary family man. Mostly harmless.
You’ve rattled “it” all right. “It” is fuming.
Don’t worry, it’s getting less entertaining and I won’t be repeating myself much more. I’m pretty aware that talking to the dumb never has the effect of educating them, but it still brings some perverse joy to see their reactions and contradictions squirming under the light of reason and, yes, scepticism.
Maybe he gets paid by post?
Looks like it, “it” talks to itself now, still posting. Hilarious.
Come on, it’s a resounding success surely?
The MHRA have quietly added warnings on the Moderna and Pfizer Jabz that they can cause heart damage in ‘rare’ cases. (12,061 acute cardiac events on the yellow card list…not so rare)
A FOI request to the MHRA for all associated vaccine deaths between 2010-2020 reports that deaths from covid vaxx was 407% higher than ALL other accumulative previously reported deaths from other vaccines.
Breakthrough cases, (the term they use for when the Jabz don’t work) exploding in some of the most highly jabzed countries, Israel, Cyprus, Malta and Gibraltar to name a few.
And now London hospitals refusing to give data about how many vaccinated patients are going into hospital.
And five people dying daily from the vaxx.
I don’t know how you measure success but for me, not so much!
What’s that got to do with our new troll discussed here, furiously arguing (now with himself) in the few conversations above?
Sorry it was meant for him.
Old people have now been made the enemy of the young. The Politicians have suceeded in the creation of a divided society.
The old propped up and cosseted because they are voters, have had their fun, independence, careers, own their own homes, holidayed abroad, pensions, and goldplated inflation linked pensions. They have for the past 18 months had the rest of the countries, indeed world’s people, locked up, made homeless, made to cover their faces regardless of age, denied medical treatments for cancer etc. School children subject to daily medical tests for a disease that does not harm them, Stopped children from playing having an education, friends, . They have seen young people lose their jobs, the ability to find a partner, the ability to have fun socialise, buy a home, go to university. Everything about being young has been offered up and sacrificed by the young who incidentally will pay the bill for all of this. To make the elderly feel safe, and comfortable. And now even though the elderly have all had their 2 magical vaccinations which will protect them from Covid. Its not enough, they still wear the masks, we still see businesses showing the please wear a mask for the comfort of others signs. We hear the elderly say the young are being selfish not doing their bit by having a drug injected into them that has a higher probability of killing them than Covid, and by standing by and letting the misery go further by supporting Covid passports for entry to venues an old person would probably never even go to.
The many have sacrificed everything for the few, time to stop with the selfishness, they don’t need to say thankyou they just need to support fully a return to normal and take off the masks, and start making a noise and start to defend the rights of children and young people to enjoy the same benefits of a youth that they did.
Excellent to see a comments sh**storm against this repulsive government at the Mail and Telegraph.
These globalist scumbags have over played their cards (hoping) and they and their saged idiots need chasing out of this country for good.
What is encouraging is that I’m pretty sure they intended to be much further down the road of implementing their masterplan before stirring up significant resistance like this.
Saturday in London will be interesting.
Are we all going to Chris`s house for tea ?
And a selfie
Anyone for tennis?
Guys just remember this – we are going through multiple layers of lies and sometimes you need remind yourself that many are still stuck on first base. There is NO point arguing about anything else. The recent Alabama lawsuit is an excellent read. I will find the pdf. The swine flu campaign in which 25% of the entire American population was vaccinated against resulted in the program being axed after 53 deaths.
All I can say is, get the popcorn out
https://renz-law.com/45k-whistleblower-suit
Will Jones, you are a gem. I’ll admit that for some time I thought ‘Will Jones’ was a pseudonym. However, I see from ‘Question Everything’ that it’s not! Would love the chance to shake your hand some time! Thank God for you.
May I suggest that all the people with the sense to reject these poisons, signs up to vaxcontrolgroup.com
You can upload your details and get a digital or plastic card that says you are part of the group and under no circumstances should be injected.
not giving my personal medical data to people i don’t know, sorry. I don’t even like giving my personal medical data to people I do know.
There are several, I think now over twenty, Gold Standard RCT’s showing the efficacy of Ivermectin against the symptoms of COVID-19. There are way more scientific studies for it than there are for the Jabz. The Jabz cannot treat, cure or save your life if you have Covid-19, Ivermectin can. There are also other prophylactics treatments in use successfully around the world. There are millions of us who know that Ivermectin could have been saving lives for months now, but still the (avoidable) deaths go on and shockingly treatment continues to be withheld.
So here’s an idea, if the unvaccinated are likely to cause problems to the NHS why, instead of an expansive Jabz, don’t they prescribed cheap and cheerful Ivermectin, taken at their own risk, and as part of a large RCT trial?
Problem solved surely!?
Excellent idea – great critical thinking – but sadly soooo 2019
Just hoping one of the ‘bots’ heads might explode, because they just don’t like the idea of promoting an actual safe and effective treatment…!
Wow Will, very courageous. This is exactly how I have been feeling since the announcement last night about the vax passes. We should not be doing this to young people.
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The White House is Censoring You Now!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnKQPKEVgNc
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Hi RickH and others,
I’m not sure what’s the issue. If you want a more detailed look into reported US vaccination deaths, look here:
https://softwaredevelopmentperestroika.wordpress.com/2021/06/14/are-covid-vaccines-safe/
When you take into account number of vaccines given each year and c19 vaccines, it’s still more-or-less the same.
You get more than an order of magnitude (x10) higher number of reported vaccine deaths for c19 vaccines if you use crude death numbers or deaths per million shots.
piece of info:
So, we know that before 2021, at least some 140 million shots of flu vaccine was given each year. And it seems reasonable to assume that in addition to flu vax, there were many other types of vax also given.
Yet another dilute ‘sceptic’ polemic that does everything it must to avoid mentioning the elephant that fills the room.
So what is this elephant you refer to?
It must be a secret elephant.
Well if I was young I’d look at what’s happening and actively seek out the virus, to gain natural immunity from catching it. And then ignore vaccination, as many of them are doing.
Well done, Will – great to see you coming out firmly on this subject at last! My husband and I will never be having the Covid jab (nor, fortunately, will our children, their spouses, our grandchildren or my sister). Life is already dangerous enough (every day we take calculated risks) without adding to the dangers!
Clearly the wellbeing of our young citizens is valueless compared with the need for the great leader to boast of his world beating vaccination rollout.
Agree with a lot of this – however shouldn’t that chart really be as a % of vaccines administered in which case it would look entirely different and probably less scary?
NO NO NO not in an attempt to save the elderly. Stop blaming the elderly. We didn’t want this.
Wake up…..this is to do with taking over the world. the Great Reset. Destroy everything in order to build a communist world state. Controlled by the those whose adrenalin runs on power. Whomever they destroy to get to their ‘Utopia’ doesn’t matter to them.
It certainly is “The Great Betrayal”, for which, those responsible must be made to pay the price.
I become more angry with every day that passes.
Johnson and his cohorts know exactly what they are doing.
They truly are evil.
I fear this won’t end well.
There are people, young and old, still wearing masks for 12 hours per day who work for MITIE.
For those that don’t know, MITIE are like CAPITA or G4S.. on the government teat…
MITIE also strongly coerced its employees to be ‘vaccinated’.
Those who perpetrated this scamdemic great reset crime should be tried in court. Every mastermind, every puppet, every tin pot dictator, …
This where people of all ages have been let down (badly) by MSM. Information on vaccine adverse effects, including death, and effective, alternative therapies have been actively suppressed. This is a crime. People talk about democide. We’re getting to a point where, like the lab leak theory, where an open conversation needs to be had before any further deaths or life changing injuries.
Another very worrying article about evidence starting to emerge. This article is about the UK yellow card system.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/scientist-warning-covid-vaccines-parkinson-neurodegenerative-disorders/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=1caf2af0-dabd-422e-beca-1bfebdf00bd1
That’s a very interesting paper. I’m mindful of Jose Basalga, who almost certainly would have had the AZ vaccine given his role.
Excellent article.
In my darker moments the thought does cross my mind that the best thing that could happen for the West is for very serious side effects to arise in the next six months, at a quantity that simply cannot be ignored or claimed to be due to Corona – with a terrible reckoning to follow for our politicians. That could be a valuable educational moment for our society. For generations afterwards we could tell our children about the horrors that were committed, just like German children are taught about the holocaust. (Although maybe this just tells us that people aren’t good at seeing parallels between different events.)
They’re not bothered about the ” disease”(although i note many politicians have it or get a few days off on “isolation” ) As they wouldn’t break the law themselves in welcoming illegal immigrants.)As for protecting the vulnerable i.e. elderly, these are at the mercy of being put-down (legally if Hancock& Co get their wish) by Midazolam &Morphine
First of all, Excellent piece Will. It says it as it should be said, exactly how it is. Superb!
Young People? Yes of course, but every bit of this article could be applied to pretty much the entire population of the world. Not just young people who are the latest facet of this attack on the ‘average and the impoverished’ alike.
Please see link below. Its an absolute must watch and share far and wide (if you haven’t already seen it). This really should be compulsory viewing for everyone. I’m not exaggerating. 45 minutes long but you can skip through the German translations.
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/dr-david-martin-dr-reiner-fuellmich-july-9-2021_RlmKScwsMf6ATEG.html
Then there is a superb follow up interview here by Stew Peters (from about 40th minute)
https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2021/07/stew-peters-show-vaxx-deaths-45000-cdc-whistleblower-dr-david-martin-ends-covid-narrative/
Pressure is building.
I think (hope) the cork may soon pop out of the bottle: especially when you consider the other stuff that’s coming out relating to the number of deaths and severe injuries caused by the experimental stabs they are attempting to force on all of us from children to enfeebled and beyond.
Public Health Scotland were recently
forced‘encouraged‘ to reveal that 5,522 people have died within twenty-eight days of having the poke in the past 6 months. In Scotland alone?This was revealed only because of dozens of freedom of information requests being made, asking Public Health Scotland (PHS) to provide the current total number of deaths.
And all this on the day that Federal Papers are filed in a lawsuit against the US Government after the discovery on their own VAERS system that there have been 45,000 deaths in 3 days from the stab, that have been covered up? Video viewable on link below, no need to download unless you wish to.
https://wagsites.filemail.com/t/Q4bURTml
Obviously people can choose to take a vaccine and cant’ chose who they were born as. The point that I wish to make is that the authoritarian and coercive instincts of the UK Government are there for all to see. Yesterday’s announcement that requirement to show vaccination passports to gain entry to venues may be extended if not enough people do what the Government wants shows their direction of travel. Once a government stops being embarrassed when it drops a commitment to human rights, it is all too easy for a government to keep on going and drop another commitment to solve another problem. They get into a mindset of “The ends justify the means” in all situations. The thing about coercion is that it is a very effective tool of government, as one of my history professors used to say “Repression works”. We have a Government who seems completely comfortable terrorizing its own people, using blatant propaganda and control of the media to limit the knowledge of its own people and using the law to coerce its own people into taking action that the Government approves of, clearly against the inclinations of the people it is coercing. We obviously don’t know the motives for the Government’s actions, through clearly they are inappropriate to deal with the worst health situation since 2008. Whether the Government’s actions are due to a frantic attempt to keep their heads above water, or a dastardly long thought out plan, or anything in between it really doesn’t matter. It is the tools that they instinctively reach for to solve their problems that is of grave concern to all, This country is travelling down a very dark road.
You are so right. And an authoritarian government can only tighten its hold if the population is willing to hand it more and more control. I am saddened and sickened by the lack of guts show by the UK population, bar a minority who DO have the guts, the principles and the resolve to fight back. I love these people!!
Yes Mr or Mrs Waistcoat spot on! But there may actually be some answers creeping out from under the rock, worth looking at links in my earlier post which could add a bit more colour to the bigger picture. Dr Martin cannot be ignored, he’s no crank and has some exclusive insights into the situation over 20 years, having been involved on the ‘inside’ hunting down and trying to prosecute the architects of some of the largest tax and commercial fraud cases in history.
But in the meantime, to echo your thoughts…
I think now – and maybe for the first time LS/DS – has truly got it. We are now living in completely dysfunctional farce, everything dependent on bio-technology which does work and offers no route back to normality, only to more shut downs, random injury etc (even if you do not take the bleakest deadly view of the vaccines actually being considered by respectable senior scientists). We also see Tony Blair rushing between Bill Gates and No 10 itching to get his/their hands on everyone’s bio-ID.
https://www.ageofautism.com/2019/10/the-id2020-alliance-the-global-totalitarian-project-hiding-behind-the-vaccine-drive.html
Note the date of this article.
This was a great article.
Only one point: They won’t ever ‘wake up’ as they are deliberately uneducated and trusting of a state that does not like them.
How can you wake up when you can’t see what is done in front of you. Too trusting as they have never been taught real history, only varnished tidbits cherry picked.
Not forgetting Black History month that has been going on for years in our schools. Blacks don’t have a history because nobody wrote it down and who cares we have plenty of our own history to study.
The very fact that it is even divided into racial history is another form of segregation. Left to it we would all find our own way. But that way doesn’t allow for an easy controllable system.
Young people tend to be left leaning politically, so I don’t think the Tories are interested in them in terms of gaining votes, but their parents see the way this Tory government has behaved towards them and should as I do think it is despicable and decide to never vote Tory again. The current generation of young people will never forget the way they have been treated by the Tories and even When they mature and hopefully politically lean closer to the centre the Tories will be the last party they would vote for. This current group of politicians should realise their actions, and those in the Tory party against them, but with insufficient gumption to act effectively, will lead to the eventual demise of the Tory party. I just hope there will be a new party formed, based on freedom, liberty, honesty and the right to free speech, all previously characteristics of the Conservative and Unionist Party, but missing from the current Tories.
As for Unionist, it’s disgraceful the way Northern Ireland unionists have been treated by Johnson, who is either too stupid to read what he is signing or deliberately “sold them down the river” for expediency to sign a really poor deal because he didn’t have the guts to tough it out and go for no deal. If he had, we would be in a far better position now and would be able to tell the EU where to go. They need our market at least as much, perhaps more, than we need theirs, and we have as much to offer in terms of security and research as they do, so it would be in both our interests to work together in those areas.
The young may very well lean left but so is just about every faction of society right now including the ‘Tories’. Do you see them increasing the size of the state or reducing it? Do you see them moving towards private home ownership or away from it. Lowering taxes or increasing them and spending? I could go on.
Marxism has infiltrated everywhere. Yet anyone who isn’t a Marxist is none the wiser. A one sided fight if you will. Only when the other side wakes up will the madness slow down to a crawl and reversals made even remotely possible.
If not, enjoy the gulag. Even the marxist loving left will end up there too.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.
Deaths ‘due to” the vaccines are not at all obvious. VAERS doesn’t do the job.
The CDC just retracted one of its spikes as in error. Nor are covid-19 death rates obvious. Give it another 2-5 years before we have reliable data and it is actually released.
You call it a betrayal? It’s Genocide!! It makes me so mad that some people cannot or simply will refuse to see what is unfolding right before our eyes. There is no pandemic these vaccines and virus were patented 20 odd years ago. People are being jabbed with an experimental gene therapy and strap yourself in because we’re in for a very bumpy ride this winter when deaths start mounting up and this disgusting evil government tries to pin the blame on the unvaccinated.
Yes indeed the reckoning will make what happened to Mussolini and his mistress look like a pat on the wrist. Unless…..the graphene oxide injected into the vaccinated part of the population is activated in time to control the mob that will come after these thugs. In that case, the unvaccinated will have to do the job.
I don’t know if I’m just lucky to live in a little bubble of sanity, but my 4 grown-up kids (aged 20 – 30), their partners and pretty much everyone my hubby and I know realise that this whole COVID thing is a lie. Only one of my kids wears a mask at work, and then only for brief periods as she’s a delivery driver. None will take the shot and all have said their friends are sceptical too – even the friend who works in the “COVID” ward at our local hospital.
I did home-educate for a while, so I think that helped. The kids tell me they’re glad I did anyway. Perhaps it’s the way to go if your children are young and you don’t want them to be indoctrinated with the prevailing orthodoxy.
I am angry too. This communist style suppression of the young is not being done in my name or with my permission. I have 5 granddaughters and have watched in ever increasing horror as this craven government and its covid zealot masters (and Michie is a communist which tells you all you need to know about state control) ruin their education, harm their mental health, terrorise them into “saving Granny” (this Granny can save herself, thank you very much) and destroy their future prospects. If the young can’t see what has been done to them , shouldn’t there be a concerted campaign to tell them how their lives have been unjustly controlled over the past 17 months by Johnson Vallance, Whitty and Ferguson? Vaccine passports? For a group that are likely to suffer less from covid than almost any other? Johnson, you were elected as a Prime Minister- not Kim Jong Alex.
thank you will ,i will never get that ‘injection’
Hi Everyone, got this from the reddit site, so no credit to me but want to publicise it.
The American Frontline Doctors court case – the argument.
It is an excellent summation of all the scientific and medical arguments against the cabal’s case for depriving us of our rights on the pretext of a “pandemic” Everything that has been discussed here over the past two years contracted into one document.
I shall keep and use for reference against the brainwashed.
Why has there been nothing from Reiner Fuellmich? I have not heard of any actions from him yet.
Credit to the Americans for coming out fighting their case.
Wish I was in Texas. Found a dime (thought it was a 5p piece) on my English street yesterday, on the obverse it says “Liberty” I have become sentimentally attached to it and keep it on my shelf.
https://edcdeveloper.files.wordpress.com/2021/07/cdc-45000-covid-19-vaccine-deaths-law-suit.pdf
Over the past 17 months I have personally known of 8 people who have died and not one of them has died of covid. So where’s this killer pandemic?