The Government has added further confusion to mask-wearing requirements after July 19th today. While there will be no “legal compulsion” to wear a mask in England when the final stage of the lockdown roadmap is reached, people will continue to be “expected to wear masks in indoor enclosed spaces”, according to Vaccines Minister Nadim Zahawi. He is quoted in the Guardian.
I think it’s important that we remain cautious and careful and the guidelines that we’ll set out tomorrow will demonstrate that, including guidelines that people are expected to wear masks in indoor enclosed spaces.
And of course to remain vigilant with your hands and face and just remember that we all act responsibly as we did with the vaccination program. …
We can come together and deal with this pandemic in a way that is responsible, by thinking about our own actions and how they impact other people, including people who may be immunocompromised.
Whether or not people are guided by this “expectation”, masks will still need to be worn in a number of settings as businesses have been told they will be allowed to set their own rules.
Stop Press: The Vaccines Minister has also denied reports this morning that the gap between Covid vaccine doses will be cut down to four weeks. He told Sky News: “The eight-week interval offers that additional fortification in terms of protection with the two doses much better than having the interval shortened any further.”
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Well, my wife and I from the North East of England have spent the last 10 days down in Devon, Dorset and Wiltshire. The compliance with wearing face masks is frightening. Out of every place we have visited apart from us we have seen only three other unmasked people indoors. Even outside, I’d say 60% of lunatics were masked. Fucking unbelievable!!! After all these people must have seen with the G7 summit, Hancock, UEFA and football. How can they not see they are being played? I fear for the future.
Fuck off, you criminal scum bag charlatan.
Businesses can set their own rules, that only means they will get on business from me, now fuck off back to your cave , plonker
“That’s the clinical advice” from the pharmaceutical industry that has a 100% waiver/indemnity over vaccine-induced injury and death and stand to make billions in profits!! Really?
One word question Mr Zahawi, “Ivermectin?”
Another Nudge?
It may sound trite but its worth reading Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World if you get a chance, written in 1931 (there was a very good 2020 TV series too, cancelled Oct 2020?) about a dystopian future where the population are (controlled) kept ‘happy‘ through the use of various different coloured pills.
We could be heading towards something similar if these monsters aren’t exposed.
Interesting video on Hugotalks.com how long before we’re being told to take a daily ‘booster’ pill eh?
https://youtu.be/sgxMopT6BH8
Still wear face masks after 19th ? No way! If Zahawi actually looked at the DATA, he would no see any reason to do that. Moreover, he’ll notice that the UNvaxed case rate has already peaked and falling but the UNvaxed rate is rising.
The problem with this is that the public is still not being told what the ‘science’ tells us about droplet vs aerosol transmission.
This ‘HOW DID WE GET HERE: WHAT ARE DROPLETS AND AEROSOLS AND HOW FAR DO THEY GO? A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE ON THE TRANSMISSION OF RESPIRATORY INFECTIOUS DISEASES K. Randall AUTHORS 1, E. T. Ewing1, L. C. Marr1, J. L. Jimenez 2 ABSTRACT , L. Bourouiba 3 * ‘
Masks could be valuable in reducing transmission if two things apply, the first is that they fit snugly to the face so that all inhaled and exhaled aerosolised virus passes through the mask, and the second is that the masks trap all sub 5 micron particles that naturally evade your own ability to trap and destroy. But, of course, the eyes are not protected by the majority of enclosing face masks (NP99, FFP3) that have no goggle element.
This paper summarises what has been known for over 40 years, but has been suppressed by the current belief paradigm, that shows that particles as large as 100 microns can remain in the air as aerosols and infect those breathing it in, and that consequently there is no safe distance in still-air.
The paper also reveals that public transport adapted to increase ventilation reduces transmission, and where money has been invested in ventilation in public spaces and transport rather… Read more »
It’s not just that though, it seems that facemasks also nebulize droplets into much smaller ones, so making any virus in droplets carried in the air penetrate the lungs much more easily. That’s why medical staff use nebulizing sprays for inhaled drug application.
Well Minster you can call me an irresponsible idiot who don’t care for my fellow humans but I will still be going unmasked but unlike the still masked who will tut and shout at me I will just keep a dignified silence and get on with my life
‘People still expected to wear a mask’
last time I looked I’m a person, so f**k off and expect away!
We have imbeciles in government, do they not understand that non-surgical masks do more harm than good? Silly bits of cloth over your face do very little to prevent passage of the virus, and unless they are replaced after each use can build up germs and virus on their surface and make them worse than wearing nothing. They also cause retention of CO2 which reduces oxygen intake, particularly in children when they are forced to wear them for long periods.
I would urge everyone to use the exception of “distress caused by mask wearing when there is no scientific evidence to support it”
We must not be supine and permit Mask wearing to become part of identitarian politics . The good, the bad and the frightened!
If they worked why do infections go up after the mask mandate? and why the increased nosocomial (hospital) infections when everyone wears the things!!!
Masks are a Menace
Fake minister pushes fake prevention measure shock horror.
An acquaintance sent me a link, and asked me to sign, a petition that is going round to keep face masks on public transport, to keep public transport workers “safe”, naturally. Safety is more important than anything else, after all.
No, I won’t be signing. I just ignored it.
It’s a few years since I’ve been on a bus, but I do remember that in winter they used to suffer terribly from condensation, as people hated to open the windows. I always felt that the atmosphere inside a fuggy, unventilated bus was a bit unhealthy; but I cannot say I ever caught a cold or flu as a result. Nor did I worry about it, or stop going on buses. And I’m not aware of a shortage of bus drivers as a result, not even in the flu season when passengers were often coughing or sneezing.
But come the Wuflu, and wow, we must all be hyper careful, despite the lack of evidence to show that bus drivers are at any more risk. Do people so easily forget what life was like only 2 years ago, or do they choose not to remember?
Nadhim Zawahi
Born in Iraq
Created YouGov. Gave it to his wife to run whilst he became one of Boris’ cabal.
Fiddled expenses years ago for amongst other things heating (inc. underfloor heating) for the stables for his horses.
Never wore one before, wont wear one after. Expectations are often dashed, bad luck.
8 weeks? Where did that come from? To my recollection it was 3 weeks which then got extended to 12 weeks ‘cos one dose was like, so effective and it would enable more people to get jabbed.
‘Doctor’ Tony Blair pushed for more people to be injected with a first dose, at the expense of those who had stock reserved for their 2nd injection which was supposed to follow 21 days after the first. The injection time frames were a clear part of the Pfizer vaccine trials and were in the U.K. Conditions for Temporary Authorisation of the vaccine document.
Pfizer were allegedly angry at the changed administration times up to 12 weeks for the second dose, stating their clinical trials were not based on such lengthy delays.
In effect, the U.K. government were administering the vaccine outside the Temporary Authorisation conditions!
Strangely enough, the Conditions for authorisation have been amended and that important element – 21 day timeframes – removed.
I did have have screenshots and saved files on my phone but they seem to have disappeared!
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-for-covid-19/conditions-of-authorisation-for-pfizerbiontech-covid-19-vaccine#vaccine-bnt162b2–conditions-of-authorisation-under-regulation-174–2-december-2020-amended-on-30-december-2020-28-january-2021-30-march-2021-19-may-2021-04-june-2021
There were also concerns that consent of those who had been given first injection had been invalidated, as they ‘offered their arms’ for it on the understanding there second injection would follow 21 days later.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/12/31/doctors-criticize-uk-health-officials-for-changing-pfizer-covid-vaccine-plan-.html
This guy is a p%^ck. I got challenged at another pub door yet again today for being unmasked and leading my wife and son into a pub lunch..for about the 10th time. We have never been stopped but I do hope it gets easier when my wife and I come back from France in 3 weeks. This country is full of compliant idiots. Having said that my brother, after being sick for several days in a way he has never been sick before, now says it is admirable we did not take the jab.
Have you noticed that when the control freaks tell us to wear masks they never explain why? They never tell us that Country A that has mask mandates has fared better than maskless Country B. Surely if any such evidence existed they would parrot it every time.
I used to think this was Airstrip One but perhaps it is Gilead.
That amazing word ‘guidelines’ yet again. Not law, because that would be impossible to draft and enforce. Putting business owners in the firing line, hope they remember when we get to vote again.
Same guy who is on record saying there will be no ‘vaccine’ passports – video proof here. I’m sure there’s been a point when this same cretin said there will be no requirement to wear masks after the faux freedom day.
Well, no I won’t be wearing a mask.
Because I’m not a psychopath or a robber. The only people that actually have a plausible reason to walk around with their faces (and identities) concealed.
This covid nonsense will only end when enough of society finally gets tired of the ridiculous and overblown panic their governments have foisted on them.
You really didn’t think everything was going to go back to normal on July 19th did you?
This government has no intention of going back to pre-2020 levels of freedoms in this country – it is an authoritarian regime that has become drunk on power.
Our freedoms are not going to be given back to us – we must take them back.
Even pre-2020 wasn’t that good. We had already given away countless civil liberties. Motoring, of course, is the most glaring example of state bullying, but we have also allowed surveillance cameras, facial recognition and so on, the removal of double jeopardy protection, police strutting around with assault rifles, the emasculation of the judiciary, compulsory this, ban that, and all the rest of the oppressive shit.
Scenes at Wimbledon and Wembley indicate mask-wearing not quite as popular as the ‘polls’ indicate!
Yes, it’s encouraging. Probably people who’ve chosen to go to an event with a big crowd are not entirely representative, and maybe the fact they’ve all supposedly been vaxxed or tested or both made them feel more comfortable, but still it shows that a lot of people really prefer not to given the choice. And it’s not as if the Wimbledon crowd (close to 100% bare faced while watching) are sceptics and claiming mask exemption as most of them seemed to be putting them on to go down the stairs to the bar/loos/exit.
Fuck. Off.
Does Nadim stand to benefit personally in any way from what he is recommending?
The trusty ‘cui bono?’ question is often answered by quite a twisted trail.
It could, however, be as simple as his significance being dependent on his tongue being right up the Tory Party’s and Johnson’s arse.
He’s ugly and wearing a mask hides his mush.
Is the Pope catholic?
Oh I’m a team player. Just not on your team.
So what is an indoor ‘enclosed’ space?? surely indoors = enclosed so really they want masks everywhere indoors still. Why lift the legal mandate if they are going to ‘expect’ them to be worn? What’s happened to Rishi, Eustace & Javid all saying they were eager to ditch their masks!!!
Indeed.
The market will decide… Shops first and foremost want custom. Putting up unnecessary barriers to customer seems stupid to me as people will just go somewhere else. So I doubt they will bother.
A shop with a lot of bare faced customers will put many people off
That’s the perception at the moment. Hopefully as numbers of mask wearers decline that will be less true.
But experience suggests there are at last as many zero covid fanatic busybodies out there constantly harassing and nagging businesses, as there are of us, unfortunately.
But I think they’ll let people decide. But who knows.
They will follow the path of least resistance which will be some combination of encouragement and bullying but nothing that will leave them open to too much trouble
To the fuckwit that downvoted me, I am simply stating an obvious fact – at present there are a lot of frightened people out there
Indeed, the knee-jerk down vote is the mark of the incoherent fuckwit who can’t make an argument. Really they’re more at home with the Covidiots.
My finger slipped! 😉
Perhaps not quite covidiots but I do find it bizarre that some people here are triggered so much by the pointing out of inconvenient truths.
I was mildly encouraged today on a visit to London by the number of bare faces on transport and in shops and cafes, but I fear other places with more “upstanding” citizens will lag behind.
I think the red votes kind of demonstrates ‘following the herd’ which I thought most on here were against.
I am in the Costa del Sol at the moment where the government relaxed the mask mandate for outdoor use 2 weeks ago (but recommend their use). It’s still compulsory indoors.
It’s interesting to see how people in different towns have responded to this.
In Marbella, it seems like the majority are mask – free whereas in Fuengirola, 30km away, very few are maskless in the street. The two towns are socio – economically quite different although both rely largely on tourism for their existence. Marbella probably has a larger foreign component.
Is the same thing evident in the UK? If so, what causes the difference?
Great. I’ll be straight in, then.
Bollox
Not people.
Zombies.
Only the sort of people you want to put off, ie the minority of moaning minnies who are probably a customer service nightmare anyway.
I don’t think it’s as much of a minority as some people here seem to think, but time will tell. I have observed outdoor mask wearing at between 10 and 15%. I think it’s a pretty good bet that those people really won’t want to shop with the barefaced. I think we can add a few more % on for those who are put off by being indoors with people breathing in an unhindered fashion.
My point was that shops will consider a number of factors – the hassle of enforcement, the hassle of having to take the signage down, the need to appear “safe” and follow “guidance” and “best practice” and the need to provide a pleasant experience for shoppers so that they come back. A high end boutique for example might not want a lot of signage and might prefer the “look” of staff and shoppers unmasked as it is more appealing. Tescos probably don’t much care about that and will follow the path of least resistance.
This isn’t aimed at you, Lucan, but to have attracted 29 downvotes merely for pointing out what seems to be an obvious truth, however we may disapprove, is baffling. I never… Read more »
Not a single mask in Rushcliffe Park, Nottingham yesterday. Gorgeous day, lovely children running around with their parents, grandparents, dogs, cyclists,skaters, walkers all enjoying themselves. Lovely friendly people selling good coffee, tea and cakes and a girl who gave me a smile when I declined the hand sanitizer. What a lovely experience! Maybe people have had enough.
No cabinet is ever united despite collective responsibilty. I suspect that Zahawi is on the muzzling side and didn’t want them lifting. Apparently Sajid Javid the Health Secretary told The Telegraph anyone who would not wear a mask in an enclosed space was “just being irresponsible”. Where is the peer reviewed evidence that they work?
This is a review of the evidence on face mask use including peer reviewed – dated Jan of this year.
“Our review of the literature offers evidence in favor of widespread mask use as source control to reduce community transmission”
They don’t really talk about “transmission” of anything, just about various one-off observations of “perturbation effects” of cloth masks in laboratory settings.
There are also some interesting unbacked assertions throughout the text which are outright contradictory such as (paraphrase) “because the speed of ejected particles decrease with increasing distance from their source, it’s easier to filter them closer to the source than more distant from it”.
And then, this is a masks-for-all “study” which is a political lobbying group.
Are we referring to the same paper? The one I linked to is in the PNAS and refers to epidemiological and ecological data in addition to transmission studies. I can’t find the phrase “ejected particles” anywhere in the text and the only mention of masks-for-all is in the title of one of the references.
You need to broaden your research because what you are promoting is complete and utter…
BOLLOX.
Maybe you could point out where the paper is wrong?
Here’s the link again.
Broaden my research to where? The last time I got into this dispute I was pointed to a set of links that were meant to condemn masks and when you read them, on balance, they were in favour of masks.
They haven’t even got a test for CONVID rendering any study involving it utter bollocks!!….now toddle back to your sheep pen
In which case the studies that purport to show that masks make no difference must also be bollocks – true?
Sod him. I’ve already burnt any masks I ever had, I won’t be wearing one again, ever. This may only be a proxy war in the global conflict for civil liberties, but it is a front I will continue to fight on.
Vaccines Minister still ‘Expected’ to do the honourable thing and stand trial for genocide.
The filthy bacteria-laden rags are still “expected” in enclosed public places – like nightclubs?
…what are ‘nightclubs’?
It was a by-gone day of reckless liberty. I believe some backward states in the U.S like Florida still have some. Though them sort of states aren’t up to our purity modern compliance standards.
It’s funny how people say religion has died.
Worship is placed on SAGE.
The message is spread via the BBC, and the masses lap it up.
Orthodoxy is spearheaded via our government.
Symbolism is everywhere in society in the form of facemasks. These symbols represent the righteousness.
You won’t see these symbols in those ‘Nightclubs’ in rouge states.
Stay home. Stay safe. Stay pure.
Covidianism is actually displaying a lot of the characteristics of a religion:
central deity – NHS
prophets – Whitty, Ferguson, Sage, etc
disciples – politicians
holy texts – Imperial modelling and government “rules”
religious attire – face nappies
holy rituals – keeping 2m away from others, one-way systems
religious symbols – stripey tape
All of course arrayed against the devil in his coronavirus form.
I have been meaning to do up a sketchy drawing thing highlighting this new religion…my observations are as follows
The Clergy = government supported/funded medical and scientific experts
Mask = Cross
Vaccines = Holy Water
MSM broadcasts = Sermons/preaching
Like CR I too have thought this thing has taken on a religious type vibe with people becoming loyal true believers who can’t fathom ever questioning their new-found religion. Just follow the rules and you will all be saved…amen!!!