Professor Neil Ferguson says that the success of the U.K.’s vaccine rollout means life will feel more normal by the summer, though we will still “not [be] completely back to normal“. His predictions echo recent reports that while many restrictions will come to an end on June 21st, mask-wearing and caps on numbers attending large events could stay in place past the “end” of lockdown. But with Covid cases and deaths continuing to fall, more MPs – and even papers – are asking why restrictions can’t come to an end now. MailOnline has more.
The SAGE Adviser and Imperial College London Epidemiologist, whose sobering death toll predictions led Britain into its first lockdown last year, said today that he expects the vaccine rollout to help keep the U.K. out of lockdown for good.
His comments will be seized upon by the Tory MPs calling for the roadmap to normality to be sped up…
Sir Robert Syms, Tory MP for Poole in Dorset, yesterday said: “We need to push the Government to get on with it. A lot of normal life could be returned.” He said the country would “lose another summer” if rules aren’t eased soon.
The PM has so far refused to budge in the face of calls for more freedom. Trade Secretary Liz Truss this morning dodged questions about whether she thought it should be sped up and told talkRADIO: “We do need to make sure any opening up is irreversible.”
… Professor Ferguson said that jabs appear to work so well that they may hold the virus at bay even in the autumn and winter, when experts fear it will make a comeback like flu.
He added that the ratio of cases to hospital admissions would be much lower next time around and it was unlikely there will be any danger of the NHS getting overwhelmed.
He admitted “we do expect transmission” when society fully reopens in June but suggested vaccination should replace the need for lockdowns and the U.K. is “in a very good position” to stick to plans for June 21st.
Professor Ferguson’s main fear now is the threat of Covid variants, against which he believes “booster [vaccine] doses” should be administered.
Other advisers to SAGE last week published a study showing that Pfizer’s jab protects well against the South African variant after people have had both doses.
Professor Ferguson said: “The risk from variants, where vaccines are less effective is the major concern. That’s the one thing that could still lead to a very major third wave in the autumn.
“So I think it’s essential that we roll out booster doses which can protect against that as soon as we finish vaccinating the adult population which should finish by the summer…
“It’s much better to be vaccinating people than shutting down the whole of society.
“So I think, with that one caveat, I am feeling fairly optimistic that we will be – not completely back to normal – but something that feels a lot more normal by the summer.”
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I hate to think what this malevolent little fuckwit considers to be normal.
Going off sh*gging while telling everybody else to stay at home I expect.
Fellow scepticesses, I ask you all: Who in her right mind could possibly want to be shagged by that?
My name might imply I’m desperate, but all I can say is NO. Lol.
And that’s rather a flattering photograph.
Maybe like the new normal in Germany? This from The Guardian:
Are we in back in 1933? Are Jews, nasty dirty Jews, a threat to society simply by virtue of existing?
Fastforward to 2021.
Get your yellow stars ready.
Watch the BBC’s latest docudrama, Der ewige Ungeimpft.
Likely enough, I always had a suspicion that this decade would resemble the 1930’s, creating a climate of moral and economic bankruptcy never ends well.
Mary Whitehouse jolly well had a point.
It cannot be pointed out enough: the jab DOESN’T STOP YOU GETTING IT and DOESN’T STOP YOU SPREADING IT. How many times do they have to be told?
The latest NHS advert for the so called ‘vaccines’ (which they are clearly not, since they don’t meet the medical definition of one) should be challenged through the ASA because it concludes with a strapline of to protect yourself and others (my bold) because the gene based interventions were never designed and do not profess to have any effect on other people.
Yes indeed. There is zero scientific justification for the policy – which you would think Angela would realise as she comes from a scientific background. So, that being the case, it then begs the question what is the policy REALLY for?
So the vaccine which neither prevents one from getting nor transmitting convid only reducing the impact of the disease on the person vaccinated get to have “freedom” but the unvaccinated don’t…???
Yes, that scared the bejaysus out of me too. Of all countries to adopt that approach – can they not see the parallels???
Who foisted this c**t upon us
No I really mean it WHO did foist this c**t upon us
Brilliant.
Seriously tired of seeing his face prop up – his views are irrelevant. He is not an epidemiologist he is just a very naughty boy (without any biological qualifications). His track record means the lamestream media should not be paying any attention to him.
It’s never going to be normal until masks, social distancing and every aspect of the crappy idiocy we’ve had to endure since last March is consigned to history’s dustbin.
The Coronavirus act must be repealed. Otherwise this will all happen again.
Correct. I don’t understand why the continuation of distancing and mask wearing is considered a small thing when in fact they are the two biggest factors by far and nothing will be remotely normal until they go.
The mask can be seen as a very powerful symbol of submission. People think it’s to control the virus. It’s not. From a science and medical perspective evidence of effectiveness is woolly at best. It was brought in for communitarian purposes and the “greater good” – my MP admitted this much when I questioned him on medical efficacy. It’s a control and stressor tool. By taking away your identity and your natural breathing process, and your ability to communicate effectively, it makes you open to conditioning, accepting a “new” normal and a new order.
Masks have another use. They trigger a ‘we’re all doing our bit’ reflex that has been part of the British psyche since the Blitz or before. The British are never happier than when they are grumbling about a shared burden, be it rationing, the performance of a national team, or in this case masks. This grumbling releases pent up pressures that otherwise might result in more drastic protests.
You’re right. James Delingpole, talking to Naomi Wolf on his most recent podcast, was discussing this very subject. Part of the reason that pushback has been somewhat delayed here in the UK was because of this “mustn’t grumble, we’re all in this together” encouraging of social approval and public policing.
It also encourages vindictiveness against those who ‘aren’t doing their bit’.
Yes indeed. “Divide and conquer” is a well established strategy.
Men v women. Black v white. Maskurbator v sane. Vaxxed v sane. Religious v atheist. Religious v different religious. Cis v trans. Etc etc. Divide and conquer now at industrial scale.
Division and distraction from the real perpetrators of evil.
Precisely
And that is now being extended from mask wearing and people refusing to wear them to vaccination and people not having the vaccinations.
Quite so. A good friend said after taking the jab, “proud to have done his bit”. Poor lamb.
Poor dupe.
It’s no wonder you’re worried. Unless he means he is proud to have helped remove an excuse for the control freaks to continue denying us freedom. That, surely, is the reason to have the vaccine.
Odd that anyone should be proud to be doing what they’ve been told to do.
Spot on HelenaHancart – very well put
Very well expressed.
Its a dangerous psychological trait known as Normalisation of Deviance which causes accidents amongst other things.
You start with normal, move from it, do some things, keep doing those things, get away with it and eventually you lose sight of what “normal” is.
A lot of people have that now, they’ve been so beaten up by the behavioural psychologists that a prospect that would be abhorrent and classed as abuse a year ago (masks in shops, masks on public transport, queues outside shops, one way systems in shops, plastic screens in pubs) is now accepted and normalised.
And thats terrifying.
Again its a well known psychological manipulation technique used by many autocratic regime for many many years.
Lets not forget, NORMAL is the same legal rights and restrictions you had in Feb 2020. Nothing after that is normal.
It’s an interesting comparison but crowd obedience of ‘official’ edicts and individual omissions/violations from approved procedures are different things, as 45 years in the Air Safety Industry has taught me. It is true that people, either as individuals or groups, sometimes short cut SOPs if/when they are perceived to be clumsy or too time consuming. Over time this becomes ‘the way we do it’, and can even be so ingrained the next generation gets trained.
With masks etc we have (sadly), the majority following edicts because they trust the source. Because they don’t understand or indeed care about the science no amount of rational argument can sway them. Where the trick comes up is making each incremental step small and inconsequential, and allowing that to settle in before making the next one.
The technique has some pedigree: https://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html
Scary
March 14th in fact, when over 3,000 packed out a stadium in South Shields. Happy days! There’s highlights on You Tube, an elegy to old normal, like those pictures of people enjoying the lovely summer of 1914.
Add to masks and SD, mass forced testing for access to travel and other places, caps on crowds, mandatory track and trace. These are likely to continue in various forms for decades probably.
It’s important that opponents of the coronamadness do not give up the battle once pubs are open. That’s not a victory because it is entirely on the loonies’ own terms.
And again and again and again And again and again and again And again and again and again again and again and again…….
Not only will it happen again but it will never end.
I predicted superfluous top up vaccines.
The immunology is unequivocal: there is no possible need for them.
Yet Moderna is manufacturing one billion doses right now.
Surely now, my explanation is a far better fit to the observations than anything officially communicated?
I think Fornicating Ferguson you’ll find that…
1. Ivermectin will be equally effective against all variants and…
2. Nobody gives a toss what you think since we don’t understand how you’re still in the job.
This!!!!
Yes!
Now he’s playing both sides against the middle for the publicity
See American Journal of Therapeutics, just out, by Dr Pierre Kory. In depth review of IVERMECTIN.
Grab a pdf before it’s taken down.
On its own, it utterly undermines the case for Emergency Use Authorisation.
JFC – Not this puke inducing incompetent twit again!
Can’t stand the very sight of him.
I can image him with a Waffen SS cap adorned with Eagle/ swastika and skull & bones
One of those scrawny, inadequate little shits elevated to high position by the workings of evil. Like Goebbels, or Himmler.
Why do we need to hear anything from this jobsworth, lickspittle, whatever…..
How can a man without any medical qualifications what so ever have so much power over health policy? He is a physicist for f*cks sake. Also he ain’t a computer programmer, but writes software that f*cks up all our lives. Absolutely incredible!!
Although a medical qualification contains little or no epidemiology, virology or immunology.
Most doctors have no training or experience to speak on public health/pandemics either.
Thats why we have actual epidemiologists and virologists…
True, but Ferguson’s original training is in theoretical physics & mathematics.
Not even a basic training in biology.
Because, as a old mate of mine said: “Bullsh×t baffles brains”.
The health policy is a requisite (among other requisites, such as digi-ID and d-currency etc)for the control needed to implement an extremely nasty financial reset coming soon. That health policy (which is bogus and internally inconsistent/incoherent) inducts stooges and naff collateral, like Ferguson. He’s driven nothing.
Why is this guy, who is wrong and has been wrong about everything, advising anybody in government, when Carl Heneghan et al are not?
Because he is needed for messaging to the masses the desired propaganda.
Infections peaked, and started their precipitous fall, weeks before lockdown could have been responsible and months before vaccines. Ferguson is lying as usual.
The Evening Standard quotes him on the BBC R4 Today Programme
“The data is very encouraging and very much in line with what we were expecting”
Another lie from Professor Pantsdownonfire.
Ferguson isn’t a medical doctor, pharmacist, medical scientist or anything other than a creep who makes false predictions, cons stupid and gullible politicians and NHS bods, and has a large hand in destroying the country’s economy and social structures, along with its morals and any honesty it may have retained in the days of “wokery” and the rest.
I doubt he knows anything about boosters and so forth, except what he’s cribbed, and no-one in their right minds would listen to this awful specimen pontificating about more medical matters anyway. As for the rest of his utterance, the comments preceding mine cover anything I may have to say.
He is only given his prominence courtesy of those who voted for Mr Toad.
Who decided to give this certified f.wit airtime here other than in a passing reference in Round Up?
To give us a target for rage.
Where does he get the authority to comment at all? Is he an expert on these matters, or an elected politician, or perhaps he can run a magic wand algorithm to sort it all out?
Problem is it won’t ever go back to normal for:
the list goes on…
For a virus with a 99.8% survival rate, there should be a criminal enquiry on his estimate of UK 500,000 deaths from – there would be if this was a race track and the betting odds were rigged.
I congratulate you on your clear thinking.
Everything we’ve been told is a lie.
No exceptions.
It continues today as I predicted about variants and top up vaccines.
The vaccine passports app will cede totalitarian tyranny to the owner of the database & algorithm.
This power will be used to compel people to walk up to be injected with substances which will kill them.
This is a GLOBAL DEPOPULATION EVENT.
Europe & U.K. are already lost.
Well The Bernician is trying his best with the private prosecution. Anyone got any update on that?
“He (ferguson) suggested vaccination should replace the need for lockdowns”.
Such a diametrically opposite view to that stated by the Prime Minister just a couple of weeks ago would normally lead to instant dismissal.
Of which one?
Neither knows what he’s talking about anyway.
The contradictions are part of the deliberate chaos and confusion- nothing happening now is coincidental. It’s all been meticulously planned except maybe for the plummeting of the fatalities from the virus.
Don’t worry, the death rates will skyrocket again in Autumn amongst particularly the “vaccinated”, it´ll be interesting to hear what their narrative is then – convid 21??
Contrary to Lockdown Skeptics opinion I do not think that Professor Ferguson’s opinions are worth reading in full. Has Lockdown Skeptics now become like the MSM, a mete mouthpiece for such scaremongers?
I have wondered about all the ‘worth reading full’ (when they are clearly not) and links, and wondered if LS is paid for them?
I must say, Toby & co have shied away from telling the real truth, which I’ve communicated to them a number of times.
I admire what he’s done. But like Dr John Lee & talkRADIO, Lockdown Sceptics has completely let down their audiences.
How? They’re simply not telling you what is already apparent. And it’s unfortunately the deductions I’ve made.
I wish I was wrong. I’d happily drop dead if it would make me wrong.
Just checking – presumably you are not the real Mike Yeadon who most (if not all) of us have admired as a principled scientist who has bravely held his head above the parapet consistently throughout this mess? But you are actually someone who has ‘borrowed‘ the name for the purpose of commenting on here?
Agree.Serious doubts that this is genuine.Never going into scientific reasons for his doubts about vaccine but instead general rantings about mass murder This is too crude.Some one is impersonating him.
Mike Yeadon has great integrity. You can see that from his posts.
Let’s return to normal and purify the air by burning sage.
I prefer a good Wicker Man (or even two or more) myself, as it has plenty of room for all of them. The Summer Solstice could be even more relevant and pivotal as the right day for the match to be applied.
I see what you did there!
Why is anyone still paying attention to him? The man who was delighted that SAGE could “get away with” implementing the kind of draconian lockdown policies seen in China. The man whose models, not just on COVID but on previous viruses, have consistently turned out to be wildly pessimistic. The man who never considers empirical data when trying to predict the future. The man who broke his own lockdown rules. The man who has no qualifications in epidemiology, virology or immunology but is supposedly the Government’s “go to” expert on a viral epidemic.
Why? Why hasn’t he been sent off to academia’s equivalent of a desk job in the UK Consulate in Bhutan or Quito?
Be gone with you, Professor.
100% agree. ATL says ‘SAGE’ member. I thought he ‘resigned’ after he got caught in flagrante delecti?
Isn’t that in Portugal?
Officially resigned from the main SAGE group, but quietly joined two other linked advisory groups, including NERVTAG, which feed into the main SAGE group. So, in effect the story of his resignation was a smokescreen. Don’t forget he has fellow supporters on SAGE and in the cabinet, plus his paymaster is also both directly and indirectly influencing key cabinet members through the WEF of which they are all partner members and also the new Pandemic Preparedness Partnership, so he is useful to too many key players – and he knows it.
I disagree with you on one point.
This is not a man. It’s a scrawny little demon from a forgotten corner of hell.
So well put realarthurdent, although I’d say that a desk job in the UK Consulate in Bhutan or Quito is too good for him.
Still waiting for a journalist to ask him why his model of nvCJD was ridiculously wrong.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11786878/
“Extending the analysis to consider absolute risk, we estimate the 95% confidence interval for future vCJD mortality to be 50 to 50,000 human deaths considering exposure to bovine BSE alone, with the upper bound increasing to 150,000 once we include exposure from the worst-case ovine BSE scenario examined.”
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/vcjd/facts
As usual it’s a case of test more find “more”
He would say it was right because the outcome was within the range he predicted (albeit very close to the bottom end)
The problem is that the range of the prediction was so wide, his model was essentially useless as a decision-making tool. Much like his models of COVID-19 mortality.
He would also probably say that his model predictions were taken out of context by the media. That might have been a valid excuse the first time he produced a model, but he’s been at this job, advising government, for how long? He should know by now that any number he produces will be taken out of context by the media.
He might well have said 100% confidence 0 to 70 million…
the “middle” of his 95% confidence implies 25,000 or 75,000…
So he was out by a factor of 1000 (when you realise we found more CJD because we looked more).
If the spike protein-inducing experimental injections can trigger prion formation (as has been suggested), his model may yet be well borne out. I bet he loves it, when a plan comes together.
So back to normal is masks to walk around in a restaurant or pub, but not to sit at a table, based on this clearly no walking and mixing like it was in the normal days. Going to a gig will involve a test before and after, sport events suggesting tests before and after according to someone from the Premier League who todays says they support covid passports but the cost will have to fall on the state or individual (so we will have to pay for more tests to be allowed to do things we used to do), tests at our own expense to go to the airport and tests at our own expense when we come back from our holidays. Basically everything we do enjoy life is will need a test to do at our own expense or will be restricted by regulations that strangle any element of spontaneity or fun.
How does a night out work. Back in my going out days we’d do 3 or 4 bars, mixing with other humans and having fun. Clearly young people are not going to be able to do that and all those bars are doomed as you don’t have table service at 3am. Imagine the costs for season ticket holders of football if they have to pay for tests before and after each game? Airports are a joke in the summer normally, never mind with the additional checking of covid crap.
Where is this normal? This is a hellish life imagined by awful people who might be academically smart but who lack any social skill and understanding of what makes life worth living.
He’s not even that academically smart, bit like Gates. One thing for sure they they are so removed from normal life, and so enabled and imbued with power, they wouldn’t know what “normal” life is like, even if it came and punched their bloody lights out. And they don’t care either!
That damned Ferguson looks like some lovesick poet. He ought to be worried for his safety in my opinion.
I have thought for a while that he will be Doctor Kellyed when he becomes surplus to requirements.
No need for that – what about a bankrupt business owner, or someone who, after being fobbed off for months by the National Covid Service, finally is seen by a doctor and told that he has a now inoperable cancer?
I’m a man of peace but in his case & a few others, is stop & applaud if he was being lynched.
It’d be far too merciful a punishment.
He deserves life in prison & in solitary confinement.
Forced to watch videos made by people who worked out he was lying right from the beginning.
Ferguson is one of the most pivotal actors in getting this global event up & running.
Gates funded Chair at Imperial, essentially.
why is this fraudster/charlatan still able to cause extraordinary harm to this country and peoples lives – he, his accomplices and his handlers are due a reckoning
According to an Israeli People’s Report the Pfizer jab has had a “catastrophic effect on every system in the human body.”
I am sorry but I don’t know how to post a link.
Copy and paste?
Consider how “accurate” his other “predictions” have been over the years.
Yeah.
…anybody need a grain of salt?
I am convinced this man should undergo a psychological assessment. He seems to be suffering something similar to Munchausen by proxy, although not all his victims have been human. Attention seeking and catastrophising behaviours should not be rewarded with power.
“much better to be vaccinating people than shutting down the whole of society” – The false binary that’s been at the heart of the whole scam.
40% of Imperial’s total income comes from China. Chinese research contracts, Chinese students.. then there’s the other chunks of cash from people like Gates.
He who pays the piper plays the tune.
Neil Ferguson couldn’t model a turd out of brown plasticine.
Hilarious (or disturbing?) start to the quoted article. “Sobering death toll prediction” should read “Hysterical death toll prediction”. What is the point of Michael Curzon’s uncritical reproduction of government propaganda on LS? This reminds me why I stopped reading almost all LS articles a couple of months ago and stopped donating last year. Only the picture of the cunt at the top of the article made me, unfortunately, read it, wondering why anybody is still taking him seriously. Spoiled my day.
Same here. They will not call liars, liars. So it’s pointless.
The public doesn’t understand that we’re not in debatable uncertainty.
It’s flat out lies. No one but me who is known a little is telling them this.
He must be really missing all that shagging around he was doing outside of his marriage. Bet he can’t wait to get back to “normal”.
Since he is a supporter of the CCP he doesn’t want us to get back to normal. Neither does the main funder of his department and institution.
Why are we still giving this discredited narcissist the oygen of publicity?
Can we PLEASE ensure that the tosser Ferguson is NOT referred to as an “epidemiologist”, as in this article ATL, or as an “expert on infectious diseases” as on the BBC. He’s a physicist, with 2 degrees in the subject, which makes him as far removed, scientifically, from an epidemiologist as possible.
He’s an arrogant wanker, a legend in his own lunchtime, whose mathematical models; the cause of Government hysteria and panic, have been and continue to be wildly inaccurate in their forecasts of death.
What really worries me is when this onanist forecasts something (anything) it is 100% wrong.
Therefore if he says “things will get better” that worries me.
But when this is all over a job awaits him in Global Warming forecasting as they have a 100% record of failed catastrophy.
He’s wonderfully predictable, isn’t he?
I don’t even need to model to know what he will say.
A little holiday courtesy of me, but don’t forget I’m still in charge. Never normal again.
Then a scariant will require top up vaccination for all. Be coerced, be very coerced.
Soon we will have full authorisation for ze vaccines.
Then we will make you all follow orders.
Massive profits for rna vaccines.
Absolute control.
Yes. What they’ll do with this totalitarian control is unknown but the facts best fit use of it to kill a substantial chunk of the population of the world.
Having risen at a civilised hour I am a bit behind the rest of you in this. I find my morning sceptic binge is adorned by a picture of none other than Neil Ferguson. I also find that George Galloway is standing for the Scottish Parliament in my local ‘Region’. What is going on? Are we to expect the return of Selwyn Gummer? Look how pale Prof Ferguson is – he has obviously not been out for months (except at night). Something more serious: Moray is having quite a significant spike at the moment. It is rumoured that the kids in the local school have found a way of testing positive so as to avoid their school ‘assessments’. Has anyone else heard this?
My issue is that I no longer believe by default anything the authorities tell us, because their track record id appalling.
What is meant by spike? How has testing changed? Are you certain they’ve not altered PCR testing conditions? How?
I don’t care what Mr Fergusson ‘thinks’.
What the hell has this idiot got that he can be a totally incompetent scientist, and a laughing stock all over the world, and still get listened to by government and media? Seriously, is this the best we can do?
Gates money pays Imperial tens of millions a year & so as long as Ferguson doesn’t murder anyone, his chair is safe.
But surely he has, in effect murdered people – indirectly?
You read my mind Shropshire Lass – all those people who were harmed by the fearmongering and took their own lives because they could no longer bear it and the people who died because they didn’t receive medical treatment and the people who have been harmed by the vaccinations they received, created and deemed necessary to survival because his modelling predicted this virus would be so deadly, and all the children yet to be harmed by the vaccine because they will be forced to have it likely to continue to attend school and sure as eggs is eggs it will harm them. It could be alleged that he is indirectly responsible for a lot of deaths.
Haven’t the BRITISH had enough of this Snake? the evil man?
Michael Curzon – I disagree – this article is NOT worth reading in full – and why on earth are you including this article on here without a critique that it richly deserves. Unimpressed.
This line, I thought, was very telling.
“It’s much better to be vaccinating people than shutting down the whole of society. “
So what was it then, a case of “no idea whether lockdown will work or not, but it might blackmail the population into getting vaccinated”???
“Variants” or deviants….?
How is this snake oil salesman still in the public eye? He should be put in the stocks and gagged forever! How can anyone survive with a track record like his? Anyone who isn’t aware of it must have been living on the dark side of the moon for the last 2 years or more.
Why does anyone give this man and his comments any credence?
Look up “Ferguson” in the dictionary : “arrogant, narcissistic twat. Continually wrong in all predictions: never admits errors. B.S. a specialty. Likes to play away. “