A member of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) says claims that the Government’s “roadmap” out of lockdown could be “scuppered” by Covid variants are “pessimistic”, saying that the immunity gained from vaccines “won’t just disappear”. The Evening Standard has the story.
Imported coronavirus variants are unlikely to set lockdown easing back to “square one” because immunity from vaccines “won’t just disappear”, according to a key figure on the UK’s immunisation committee.
Professor Adam Finn, a member of the JCVI, said he expected a “gradual erosion” of vaccine protection as the virus evolves but not enough to “scupper” the Prime Minister’s road map, as one leading scientist had predicted.
Imperial College’s Danny Altmann said on Friday that “we should be terribly concerned” about the discovery of 77 cases of the Indian Covid variant in Britain. He is quoted in a Sky News report:
[Covid variants] are things that can most scupper our escape plan at the moment and give us a third wave. They are a worry.
But Professor Finn of the JCVI said he thought the immunology expert’s assessment was “a bit pessimistic”.
We’ve all expected evolution of this virus to occur from the start.
I also think that we know from other viruses and previous experience that the immunity that vaccines give won’t just disappear.
It will be a gradual erosion. It won’t be back to square one. I would be really surprised if that happened.
So, I think, possibly, that interpretation is a bit pessimistic.
He added, however, that “we’re going to need to continue to be really quite careful” and that many aspects of life, including overseas travel, “won’t go back to normal yet” as we need to “avoid moving the virus around”.
The Evening Standard’s report is worth reading in full.
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“What immunity?” is the key question, given the real data – as opposed to the advertising spiel.
Last i checked, these vaccines didn’t give any kind of immunity. What are you even talking about?
It already failed in our office 5 people first dose vaccine where all ill (some pretty badly) and a high percentage then passed it on to family members some of whom where also vaccinated (first dose).
The current situation is analogies to vaccinating for the next flu season with last years vaccine effectively selecting for the most aggressive strains.
Last night I spoke with a woman in her early 60s, who has had both of her jabs, for the first time in a few weeks.
She reported feeling extremely tired and stressed out after returning from a week long staycation.
She looked very run down, with very sunken eyes and dark circles under them.
I didn’t say anything about the jabs as I know she is a believer.
Why not plant a seed?
And where are the people quoting real risk reduction figures? – which indicate that it’d be a lot cheaper to inject with saline, to produce a similar effect?
“The number of people who have died worldwide in the Covid-19 pandemic has surpassed three million, according to Johns Hopkins University.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-56783878
“with” or “of”?
Either way its less deadly than Hong Kong or Asian flu when the world poulation was a lot smaller.
Steve, some of us of a certain age have been saying this since this hysterical overreaction started.
Since Diana’s death the people of this country have become increasingly infantile,childish and stupid.
I’m not sure that her death was the issue – just a coat peg upon which to hang this curious subservient sentimentality. My first wife died suddenly in the same year as Diana, and I, too, had two adolescents to look after. Given the natural empathy (despite the royalty bullshit) I remember being utterly gob-smacked at the performance that the whole affair became. I remember being transfixed by the television coverage, not because of the event, but because the whole thing was so peculiar.
In retrospect, it did have a lot to say about induced mass hysteria as a controlling force.
Well said, Friedrich.
First laugh of the day (Sunday), thank you.
No mentione of the other 50+ million who died last year, many of them who starved to death due to the hysterical overreaction taking away their livelihoods.
Ah, but it’s worth sacrificing a few million third-world children to save a British zombie.
Its the only ‘disease’ in history the continues cumulative numbers over a year end. Always you start again from zero in the new year, how else to get quick comparisons? But with covid its all designed just to get to the biggest number. The ‘of’ number probably struggles to get to 0.5m.
Avoid spreading around a virus that’s already spread around??
we need to avoid ‘moving the virus around’. Is a qualification required for these jobs to be an absolute prat!
“Imperial College’s Danny Altmann said on Friday that “we should be terribly concerned” about the discovery of 77 cases of the Indian Covid variant in Britain.”
‘Imperial College’? and ‘Variant’? – surely a marriage of terms made in the hell of total bullshit.
The current vaccines don’t guarantee immunity anyway – even though you have the covid jab you can still get the virus and spread it … all the jab does is ease the main symptoms.
This was actually stated near the bottom of an NHS leaflet that a family member received after they had the jab.
Same with the standard blue masks on which the packaging clearly reads ‘will not protect from Coronovirus or other viruses’ (sic).
Well spotted, but it’s in such a small font that most do not read it. The tiny label is there to avoid being done under trading standards, but lots of punters buy it believing that it works
For the smallpox virus, a different species of virus, cowpox (from a different but related genus of virus) offers immunity from infection. To suggest that variants (which might have silent RNA changes or minor codon changes) would be unrecognisable to the human immune system is speculation, not science. The data simply isn’t in yet, but what is known is that Covid-19 is not hyper-variable (cf. influenza viruses), so any changes would not be significantly distinct to evade an immune response.
I thought the whole point of these so-called vaccines was that the limited immunity provided at vaccination time would die out after a few months and that booster jabs would therefore be needed in perpetuity.
This is what’s called in business “a profitable revenue stream”.
Nothing to do with public health and everything to do with money.
Of course if you are young and healthy you could just catch the virus and get yourself lifelong immunity, but there’s no money in that for anyone, is there?
If truth lay in a lack of faith in the human body’s own abilities, we’d have died out long ago!
I think I will stop reading Lockdown Sceptics news. You have become vaccine obsessed. Where are the critical voices, where are the death and adverse effects statistics that are now showing rapidly growing numbers? Where are the warning voices about the unknown long-term effects? Where is the serious questioning of the utter uselessness of all this in the face of a virus that is of no consequence to 99.9% of us? I don’t mean the odd mention, I mean the constant reminders.
Sad! It started so well, it kept me going through much of the last year but now you almost sound as if you are a mouthpiece of the vaccine industry, one of many mouthpieces. Was this not what is was all about? To vaccinate the world for the biggest ever profits in history for some of the most criminal companies on earth? Free marketing and all that for them? A perfect tool for submission, control and ultimately maybe a little ‘population reduction’?
The reason flu vaccines are only good for one year is because the influenza A virus is particularly adept at evading immunity, thanks to its interchangeable H and N proteins.
Coronaviruses don’t have that trick up their evolutionary sleeve.
I think the word is scariants, not variants. But if you want to believe the ongoing nonsense feel free. I stopped wearing a mask, I am done. This has been one helluva plandemic.