In a poll of experts taken by Nature earlier this year, only 6% said it was “unlikely” or “very unlikely” that SARS-CoV-2 will become endemic. By contrast, 89% said this was “likely” or “very likely”.
As Professor Francois Balloux has observed: “Eventually, Covid will become endemic everywhere in the world… claims about indefinite elimination are just empty slogans.”
This means the virus will continue to circulate for the foreseeable future, and most of us will catch it several times during our lives. In fact, it may become one that we first encounter in childhood, leading to immunity that lasts years or decades.
Covid, in other words, is here to stay. And unless more powerful vaccines are developed in the future, permanently suppressing transmission via vaccination is unlikely to work, let alone pass a cost-benefit test.
As the Great Barrington Declaration authors have argued, vaccines are best seen as a means of achieving focused protection against Covid. By vaccinating the elderly and clinically vulnerable, we have turned what – for many of those people – could have been a life-threatening illness, into something much less harmful.
However, since the start of the vaccine rollout, numerous people – including some world leaders – have taken a rather different view of the vaccines. For these individuals, the vaccines are a way of ‘crushing the curve’, and thereby ensuring that nobody ever has to get Covid.
But this view is based more on safetyism than on science. And ironically, it’s causing real harm. How so?
First, safetyism has led to the belief that everyone needs to get vaccinated, regardless of age. This is why the Government is proceeding with vaccination of 12-15 year olds, against the better judgement of its own expert panel. Yet as I and others have argued, a far better course of action would be donating those vaccines to poor countries.
Second, safetyism has led to the belief that everyone needs to get vaccinated, even if they’ve already been infected. Yet evidence suggests that people with natural immunity have better protection against infection than recipients of the Pfizer vaccine.
As Professor Marty Makary notes in a recent article for the Washington Post: “If we had asked Americans who were already protected by natural immunity to step aside in the vaccine line, tens of thousands of lives could have been saved.”
Third, safetyism has led to the belief that we need to roll out booster shots because vaccine-induced immunity wanes rapidly. So far, however, this is only true of immunity against infection; immunity against severe disease appears to hold up well.
In a recent Lancet article, Philip Krause and colleagues argue there is not yet any need for boosters, which could cause adverse reactions if administered too soon or too frequently. They point out that vaccines “will save the most lives if made available to people who are at appreciable risk of serious disease and have not yet received any vaccine”.
Fourth, safetyism has led to the belief that people should be strong-armed into getting vaccinated by means of passports and mandates, rather than persuaded. Although coercive measures may increase vaccine uptake, they risk undermining trust in government and the healthcare system.
What’s more, vaccine passports could have unintended consequences. If vulnerable people are led to believe – wrongly – that the vaccines have strong efficacy against infection, they might take more risks than they otherwise would.
A vaccine roll-out based on science – not safetyism – would have recognised that not everyone needs to be vaccinated. It would have assigned leftover vaccines to people that actually need them. And it would have eschewed coercive measures, in favour of transparency about the risks and benefits.
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Neither safetyism nor ‘science’, but truth and freedom.
Had the governments not coerced but been open and consulted people, there would have been almost no opposition to the vaccines.
That they did coerce and lie, with no end to the agenda, and defective vaccines, suggests neither safety nor science was their primary concern.
However ‘good’ your intention, if you force people to do it, you treat them like animals and contradict your own putative claims.
Vaccines that don’t prevent infection, don’t prevent illness, and have serious potential side effects?
Had they adhered to truth and freedom, they would not have released such vaccines.
If they were open and honest being clear these vaccines were still on trials I guarantee uptake would have been much lower.
So it wouldn’t have suited their agenda, which was based on panic not truth.
A Virus that was orchestrated, and gov’ts that were bought. Honestly, the only people we know with Covid, have ALL been double jabbed. Stop this Frankenstein nonsense and stop wasting our money. How about if Parliament investigates the deaths caused last year, by sending positive Covid elderly in hospital, back to nursing homes to spread the joy. The use of midazolam, an anesthetic, in nursing homes last year. The whistleblower on that is now dead. The whistleblower on the PCR tests is dead (Dr. Mullis) The leaders of countries that said no to the vaxx are dead. One by one all anti narrative doctors, scientists, data analysts, researchers are being censored. One by one. Why? What happened to free speech? Australia building internment camps for the unvaxxed. Anyone see that as a problem? Oh and for their obedience, Australia has just been awarded a contract for a multimillion dollar Pfizer factory in their country.
On another subject, anyone try to get a bloodtest lately in the UK. Good luck no blood vials. Why? Hmmm. Let’s see so far I have read it is due to distribution problems, Covid, Becton Dickinson problems. Has anyone in Parliament mentioned there are NO blood vials in the UK? No they were too busy on summer holiday, but back now, braying in Parliament like a bunch of what??? Horses. What a pathetic sh..show.
I wrote – again – to my MP with a heartfelt request for said MP to vote against the motion to authorise jabs to 12+ yo; this is the reply and I will be interested to know – because the wording cam form a post on DS – if others have had this reply or not for very obvious reasons;
“Thank you for contacting me about offering COVID-19 vaccination to 12-15 year-olds.
As the Chief Medical Officer has said, the COVID-19 Delta variant is highly infectious and very common, so the great majority of the unvaccinated will catch COVID-19. The likelihood of children having significant detriment if they catch COVID-19 is thankfully very low, but there is still some risk. I am glad, therefore, that time has been taken to assess this decision carefully and thoroughly.
Earlier this year, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency approved the COVID-19 vaccines supplied by Pfizer and Moderna for 12- to 17-year-olds. It confirmed that both vaccines are safe and effective for this age group. The MHRA is one of the best medical regulators in the world and I can reassure you that authorisation would not be approved unless the expected standards of safety, quality and effectiveness have been met.
While the JCVI assessed that the health benefits from vaccination are marginally greater than the potential known harms, the margin of benefit was considered too small to support universal vaccination on this basis alone. That is why additional advice was sought and the UK’s Chief Medical Officers considered the matter from a broader perspective.
In their view, the additional likely benefits of reducing educational disruption, and the consequent reduction in public health harm, including mental health, from that disruption, on balance provide sufficient benefit in addition to the benefit identified by the JCVI. The CMOs therefore recommend extending the offer of universal vaccination, with a first dose of Pfizer, to all 12-15 year olds and the Government has accepted this advice.
It is important to weigh up the benefits of vaccination against any possible, though extremely rare, side effects and I am satisfied that the JCVI has done just that when giving their latest advice. Advice provided by the independent JCVI has been invaluable in ensuring a safe, effective and successful vaccination programme. While COVID-19 is typically mild or asymptomatic in most young people, it can be very unpleasant for some and for this particular age group, it is expected that one dose of vaccine will provide good protection against severe illness and hospitalisation.
I understand that vaccination will be delivered in schools, supported by GPs and community pharmacies. Parental, guardian or carer consent will be sought prior to vaccination, in line with existing programmes. It is important that children are able to understand the risks and benefits of vaccination for themselves, so it is welcome that information will be provided in a way that is accessible to children and young people as well as their parents.
At every point in the vaccination programme, decisions have been guided by the best clinical advice and I know that this decision is no different.
Thank you again for taking the time to contact me.”
Please look at MK Undertaker John O’Looney’s recent interview – what he says about his experience with Care Home deaths – March/April 2020, just after HMG downgraded SARS COV2 from “highly infectious btw – is as scary as it gets imho, especially what he says about Midazolam.
The VAERS numbers speak for themselves….
Be a good pet and take the killshot? Sorry Onkle Klaus I have no personal need of early euthanasia… for the greater reset good.
I disagree. Governments couldn’t be honest because if they had been, very few people would have been vaccinated. They’ve had to resort to censorship and outright lies to persuade the majority to submit.
Major revelations fromma Federal whistleblower today (via Project Veritas) of how vax side-effects are being covered up in US hospitals. Please share widely.
https://youtu.be/obdI7tgKLtA
Beat me to it!
His style is a little late night TV but boy do I love that alpaca!
Pretty lame stuff and terrible editing IMHO.
Let’s hope the next ones are more significant, as advertised.
I find it slightly amusing but very strange that a recently made-up and man-made experimental concoction is thought to be better for me than my own multi-generational natural immune system. And which has been in development for millions of years. But there you go…
You’re absolutely right – a few additional points:
> Jabbing young and healthy people against cold and flu viruses offends nature – there will be a reaction.
> Rest and treatment – in some cases unusual drugs like HCQ and Ivermectin – prevails.
> Jabs take a long time to develop: measles 46yrs, polio 45yrs, HPV 33yrs, hep-A 22yrs and hep-B 17yrs………these things came along in 9 months……and two of them constitute gene therapy treatment that had not been used before. Quite why anybody accepted such a drug into their bodies I do not know.
9 months? According to one of the ‘doctors’ involved in the making of the AZ jab, it took 2 hours – see the Good Morning clip with Shill and Folly.
I can accept that as technology moves on, medicines can be developed to somewhat shorter timescales.
But safety trials, by definition, cannot be short-circuited.
‘Unmodified’ safety trials are not short-circuited but if you have the know-how, they can be ‘modified’ and, as it’s profitable to do so they have been so for about 20 years
Exackty. Missing one item.
You left out the bit where you are coerced to take it to combat a virus created by the very same people.
Tell me again about freedom? What a quaint concept indeed
If your multi-generational natural immune system was enough, we would not have a few million dead multi-generational natural immune systems (and counting).
You need to F.O
Yet another sensible person, with a well thought out sensible response to the ‘actual’ risk posed. Unfortunately much like the rest of us ‘sensible’ folk the idea will be dismissed as mis-information at best. The only way this is going to change is if OFCOM take their foot of the throat of the MSM, then the narrative will unravel in record time. You have to ask how much money the Government is pouring into media companies to keep them quiet, that’s the worrying part, that the ‘free press’ is very free after all.
This is the most worrying aspect of the whole farrago. Free speech has been throttled and governments and their acolytes have taken control of the propaganda narrative. Long term, that is a great danger.
Hard to believe the ST Insight team are not all over this….
All these points are true, up to a point. But it’s not even just pure “safetyism” (which is something, lord knows, that is harmful enough in itself, and has been a big problem in our society for decades, building up to this covid mass hysteria).
What we have faced is corrupt decision making using massive fear propaganda and control of information and opinion, to weaponise existing “safetyism” in order to push society in the wrong directions for the benefit of elites.
Pure “safetyism” would have recognised the risks and harms in radical new responses such as lockdown, and in the abandonment of normal testing and safety precautions for new mass treatments (the “vaccines”). It would have allowed a free debate on which dangers were greater, and undoubtedly would have come down on the side of not allowing mass experimental treatment with powerful, intrusive and irreversible new kinds of genetic engineering-based techniques.
Instead, the debate was systematically biased in the direction of emphasising some risks and downplaying, even suppressing mention of, others, and of alternative approaches.
There are problems with “safetyism”, undoubtedly, but the problems here go way beyond that.
“Satefyism” is a new one on me…
For these individuals, the vaccines are a way of ‘crushing the curve’, and thereby ensuring that nobody ever has to get COVID.
“Crushing the curve” does not mean ensuring nobody ever has to get Covid. It means spreading the infection out over time so that we have the resources to deal with it. Particularly in the early stages of a new virus where we don’t know how it will behave.
Valid point for Spring 2020.
Not really. That’s again just the COVID-fans most preferred propaganda tool: Using appeals to ignorance to justify their policies. It’s impossible to react sensibly to something that’s not known, except by unlikely coincidence. Hence, the only sensible course of action is not rush into an We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do it quagmire but to gather knowledge and then react based on that.
The entire ‘resources’ paradigm / excuse is null and void – an NHS that was slashed for a decade plus is replaced by an experimental dangerous jab program and a useless track /trace / testing program costing billions (against better, safe, cheap treatments for a nasty seasonal virus )… the corporate govt has long stopped acting in our interests – the disconnect between our lives and deep state is a chasm – so fuck flattening the curve bullshit – how about flattening the lunatics running the place?
MTF, you forgot to point out that the “virus” is a chimera, genetically modified to enhance its pathogenic qualities and introduce intra humans transmissibility – that is not what I think, that is what the designers have stated in public and that report has been disclosed for the whole world to see.
And in other news, the principle of “informed consent” has just taken a massive blow , at least as far as Pfizer in the US is concerned; the FDA has refused to confirm the majority ingredient in the Pfizer EUA “vaccine – this is from the ICAN Legal Update team, dropped into my inbox overnight:
“The FDA assured the public that it will provide transparency for any COVID-19 vaccine it approves. That promise would surely include letting the public know what is in the vial being injected into the arms of millions of people. Nonetheless, the FDA has chosen to hide from the public an ingredient that constitutes more than 20% of the undiluted vial of each Pfizer vaccine!
Upon licensure of the Pfizer vaccine, the FDA authorized a fact sheet to be given to the public, which includes a list of ingredients in the vaccine. Amazingly, this list doesn’t mention a secret ingredient. What is the secret ingredient? Nobody knows other than Pfizer and the FDA. In the technical documentation that is not intended for general public distribution, the FDA disclosed that this secret ingredient constitutes about 22% of the undiluted vial (0.45 mL of 2 mL) but completely redacted the name of the secret ingredient.
ICAN’s attorneys immediately contacted the FDA and asked for the redaction to be lifted. However, the FDA refused to do so without a formal demand. Therefore, ICAN, through its attorneys, submitted a formal demand to the FDA to disclose the identity of the secret ingredient.
ICAN believes that the public has a right to know what makes up over 20% of the undiluted volume of each Pfizer vaccine that federal, state, and local governments in the United States, and in other countries around the world, are mandating their citizens receive. We will never stop demanding full transparency from government agencies and officials because without transparency, informed consent is not possible”
Some vaccine adherents will doubtless attempt to deflect, obfuscate and dissemble – however on wholly moral and ethical grounds, as I am no lawyer, if the whole suite of ingredients cannot be confirmed because of secrecy, it necessarily follows that any adverse effects from the “secret ingredient” is unlikely to be disclosed. It might be that the ingredient is entirely benign – if so disclose it. But the point has to be made that “informed consent” is patently impossible without these facts, regardless of the posts by ex NHS nursing staff that informed consent may be implied.
I understand that the US Pfizer and the UK Pfizer are the same concoction; imho game’s up with mandating it’s use to 12+ yo – concerned parents must ask for a written statement from the jabbers exactly what is in these jabs in it’s entirety; if they cannot provide it, walk away.
Question if anyone can help:
I remember there being an article a little back, that looked at, if I remember, the Israeli data, and concluded that although the change of death was overall lower for vaccinated than unvaccinated, that once people became infected and showed symptoms (so actual cases, not PCR “cases”) then the ware no significant difference in outcomes? I recall a table that categorised by outcomes.
If that was right, can anyone point me to it? Thanks in advance.
Two global investment companies own Big Pharma, the media and governments.
This is an orchestrated money and power grab.
Zio/Anglo Neocons dreamed of a New Pearl Harbour as an excuse to carry out their faux war on terror and then just by chance along came 9/11..
Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates and their Davos/WEF Ninja’s dreamed of a Technocratic One World Government and then just by chance along came Covid 19 for their war on our health, and our very existence..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obdI7tgKLtA
That’s a bit contrived and dramatic – maybe that’s how Americans expect their current affairs to be delivered.
Taken in context of everything else that is going on thought, he content seems perfectly plausible.
I don’t see how throwing away the pandemic response plan, locking down, rushing out a vaccine which is novel and with no long term safety data and then giving it to everyone in in the world including children – can possibly be described as safetyism
Covid is just the cover for the roll-out of digital surveillance, I fear. Nothing to do with “science” or “health”, as there were answers to those problems by summer 2020. Big pharma, big tech, big government: a nasty triumvirate of bullies, all working together.
Safetyism?
Or politics and corruption?
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/my-front-row-view-of-the-covid-drug-corruption-scandal/
Of course people have gone for safetyism. Science has let them down, big time.
And, of course, the irony here is that safetyism in this case isn’t at all safe.
No, Mr Carl, it has nothing to do with safety or “safetyism.” Children who were never going to get ill from Covid-19 – let alone die – are going to be murdered by NHS staff operating under orders from Chris Whitty, England’s purported chief medical officer. It doesn’t really need to be stated here, but there is nothing “safe” about murdering children.
It is about politics. 100% politics. It has nothing to do with science or “safetyism” and anyone deluded enough to still think it is should not be writing articles for this site.
When police forces around the world are dressing up in Robocop gear and beating up old women in order to encourage them to take some medicine for an illness similar to flu – a Neo-Naziesque outrage our “liberal” media seem quite happy to ignore – then it becomes very apparent we are heading toward a globally organised fascist state.
It is all about fascism Mr Noah. Not safetyism.
Well said. You can’t win a battle if you don’t even realise that you’re in one.
Very well said; I think lots of people don’t know who the enemies are either
A couple of issues.
This is the language of mumbo-jumbo propaganda. It plays into the saviour myth that vaccines are somehow hanging around serving guard duty, little muscular soldiers defending our cells.
All that any vaccine does is to give our own immune systems something to practice on. Vaccines can produce a more specific immune response, they cannot be more “powerful”.
Second, at this point I despair that anyone who has been following the politics as well as the science is still naïve enough to accept that the response to SARS-COV-2 has been based on safety, or health.
If you’re not calling it COVID-1984 at this point, then you’re fighting the wrong battle on the wrong front.
I have been calling this shit show C1984 virtually since the start as my previous posts will attest.
“The Vaccine Rollout Was Based on Satefyism, Not Science”
Let me fix that headline for you
“The Vaccine Rollout Was Based on Satanism, Not Science”
I think it’s helpful to remember that the virus, one of many coronaviruses, has been named SARS-Cov-2, not COVID or COVID-19.
Our immune systems are highly likely to already have a handle on how to deal with exposure to this virus. It’s only a tiny minority whose, due to age and/or existing illness/disease, immune systems struggle to crush infection efficiently. Becoming severely ill with the disease the virus causes – COVID-19 – is rare. Dying with COVID-19 being the only cause of death is even rarer.
As John Ioannidis has said since day 1 of this pandemic, the only cure for a virus is the virus itself. Governments cannot control it.
In other words, either through exposure and infection (with T Cells learning what the virus looks like and how to deal with it going forward), or through a vaccine that contains the virus, can a virus be dealt with efficiently.
The plan (or cock-up) has been touted from the earliest days; lock up the young, the fit, the healthy, kick the can down the road, prevent a firebreak of infections in those who can easily deal with it (dismissed as “letting it rip”), and use vaccines as the passport out of restrictions and into the New Normal. And these vaccines don’t actually contain SARS-Cov-2. Rather they’re a bizarre new technology that tells our cells to produce the spike protein part of the virus, based on a computer-generated RNA model.
Preventing the young, fit and healthy from mixing and spreading the virus has been a deliberate ploy to create “waves” and “variants”.
“We’ll remain in lockdown until a vaccine is available”.
However, if the government(s) had followed established pandemic protocols, the virus would have mutated into naturally less virulent versions of itself months and months ago. If viruses had desires, none of them would be to kill hosts. The host dies, the virus dies with it. If the virus causes the host to feel a bit shit for a day or 2, like with other coronaviruses, the host’s T Cells know how to deal with subsequent exposures.
Everything about how this pandemic has been handled is anti-science. Anti-evolution.
And now, on a daily basis, the “Daily Sceptic” runs articles about these non-virus-containing vaccines (only called vaccines due to a change in the official definition of “vaccine” in 2020), while at the same time conflating COVID-19 with the virus.
COVID-19 is not the virus. COVID-19 is the disease some people develop after exposure to the SARS-Cov-2 virus.
Absolutely. The MSM have been conflating pathogen and disease since day 1.
Well said. Spot on.
100%. I’ve argued that the fact that there is, for most countries, only a small excess death rate, and the age distribution of deaths is the same as that for all-cause deaths, means that people who died of C19 would have died of something else (and this point is independent of the of/with debate). So we really did not need to to anything much, and certainly not after John Ioannidis established that the IFR would be around 0.2%.
Exactly, thank you for pointing this out – blindingly bleedin’ obvious when you do the research imho.
they’re not vaccines, they don’t vaccinate.
Define vaccinate.
Immunise. It’s very simple, really.
I think most people’s understanding is that once you’ve been jabbed you’re very very unlikely to get or pass on whatever you’ve been jabbed against. That’s not the case with the “vaccines” for covid.
You can argue the covid vaccines might display some vaccine like effects, though it’s hard to tell what they are, but the mass vaxxing of healthy people has been done off the back of what people think the vaxxes will do, not what they actually do.
So in the context of the mass vaxxing of the healthy, it’s a blatant lie to sell them as vaccines, and is in fact evil.
The normal meaning of “vaccinate”, that is familiar to most people, is to expose the immune system to the pathogen or something like it, to trigger a response that will protect when in the future the real thing is encountered.
It’s a familiar term that reassures by that familiarity, to most.
These experimental new gene therapy-based techniques do not “vaccinate” in that sense. They do not trigger a normal immune response by just exposing you to something similar to the pathogen, they manipulate your cells to produce something (a protein) which then triggers an immune response.
If we were simply in a situation of honest communication without any intent to manipulate, they would not be referred to just as “vaccines”. They would either be referred to by some completely new term, or by a qualified reference to vaccination to reflect similarity but not identity – something like “gene therapy-based vaccines”.
But the various interested parties wanted to manipulate people into accepting these new experimental treatments, and to avoid their being classed as gene therapy for regulatory purposes, so they were dishonestly identified as plain, familiar “vaccines”.
Pfizer , in their US EUA to the FDA refereed to them , according to a paper which Dr David Martin read from in one of his revelatory interviews, as a gene editing therapy.
If Pfizer refer to “it” as such, then out of courtesy and politeness as well as deference to their undoubted superior knowledge, “we” should do the same.
opps “referred”
Wasn’t it based on fraudism?
The vaccines are deliberate “Kill Shots”: Vaccines Are Kill Shots and now they are putting them in kids from 6 months old up: Dangers of Booster Shots and COVID-19 ‘Vaccines’: Boosting Blood Clots and Leaky Vessels
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What happens inside your body after injection with gene-based COVID-19 vaccines? How does this new ‘vaccination’ technology differ from usual vaccination methods, and why is that dangerous?
In this document, we answer all those questions and more, based on the latest and best available science. We explain how several papers in 2021 significantly advanced our understanding of SARS-CoV-2 immunity, and therefore the science and safety of COVID-19 vaccines.
Unfortunately, as the COVID-19 vaccination programme has followed a policy of ‘vaccinate first – research later’, our understanding of SARS-CoV-2 immunity has only recently caught up with the rushed vaccination schedule.
Given that no clinical trials involved more than two injections of any vaccine, it is important that doctors and patients understand where the latest science leaves us in terms of how the vaccines interact with the immune system, and the implications for booster shots.
We explain here that booster shots are uniquely dangerous, in a way that is unprecedented in the history of vaccines. That is because repeatedly boosting the immune response will repeatedly boost the intensity of self-to-self attack.
Please take the time to read this important information, and share.
The findings are presented in summary form for those who would like an overview, followed by an explanation of the underlying immunology for those who wish to understand in more detail.
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Brilliant and many thanks for posting.
The “cure” for Coronavirus is blindingly simple and it is easy and free and anyone can do it – my free salt water cure: I simply don’t understand why people get herded into taking vaccines which don’t work, according to my betters, however this is the Covid Crusher which would stop this Covid Pandemic dead, if everyone practiced it and it is free, from me:
The Achilles Heel of Coronavirus, is while it is still in the developing stage as Coronavirus/Covid in the warm, wet areas inside the nasal passages of your head (nose) and before it gets to become Covid in your head and lungs, 10 to 14 days later. If Coronavirus is not treated with my free iodine salt clean water cure to flush out your nasal passages, as soon as possible, or during self isolation, it becomes Covid, which is where the money is. You cannot catch Covid! Always breathe through your nose and keep your mouth shut, because you really don’t want the Coronavirus to seed itself in your lungs!! My free salt water cure has “absolutely nothing” to do with mRNA test vaccines. Treating Coronavirus with my free iodine salt clean water cure, flushes out the nasal cavity and kills Coronavirus, before it gets to be Covid, irrespective of if you have had mRNA vaccines or not. Mix one heaped teaspoon of iodine salt in a mug of warm or cold clean water, cup a hand and pour some of the solution in, then sniff or snort that mugful up into your nose, spitting out everything which comes down into your mouth, by so doing, you flush out your nasal cavity, where Coronavirus lives. If you get a burning sensation (which lasts for 2-3 minutes) then you have a Coronavirus infection.When the soreness goes away, blow out your head with toilet paper and flush away, washing your hands afterwards and continue doing my salt clean water nasal cavity flush cure, morning, noon and night, or more often, if you want, until, when you do my free salt water cure, you don’t experience any soreness at all in your nasal cavity. While you are at it, swallow a couple of mouthfulls and if you get a burning sensation in your chest, then you are killing the Covid/Bronchitis there too, so keep it up, each time you do a salt water sniffle, until the soreness in your head and lungs goes away – job done. Pour some of the solution on a flat surface and allow to dry and see what you have then. This is what coats the nasal passages in your head and kills Coronavirus/Covid off. You can see why it is so effective. This is what I have done for the past 27 years and I am NEVER ill, nor do you need to be either.
Please pass it around to everyone who wants to give it a try.
Richard
Thanks for the great advice
The “vaccine” con-job roll-out was ALWAYS based on getting the “passport”crap introduced.
Obviously, running alongside there is the sterilisation element, the deliberate shortening of life and just to cap it all Genocide.
Any other “interpretation” is nonsense.
Correct!
The recent ONS figures that disingenuously implied that the vaccine is 99% effective in preventing deaths are downright dangerous. If you think that your odds of dying have been reduced by a factor of 100, you may very well behave differently than if you think that your odds of death have been reduced by a factor of 8.
A thought experiment could be, let’s say that you have a child who caught covid and needs to stay at home, but you need to go to work. If you think that the vaccines reduce the risk by 100x (99% efficacy), then you might invite your vaccinated parents over to babysit. Whereas, if you believe that the vaccine reduces risk by a factor of 8 (about 88% efficacy), you might decide that the risk is still too high.
There’s a world of difference between “over 99% efficacy” and “88% efficacy”.
Dishonesty, such as the recent ONS figures, could very well cost lives.
It is based on safetyism, but it’s a very particular sort of safetyism. After all, there have been serious events in the vaccine rollout that would have caused it to be halted if we were being safetyist in a slightly different way. I.e. the 2 young and 1 middle aged man in Japan who died due to a “contaminated batch” of moderna vaccines would have in normal times led to the pause of the vaccine rollout in all but the most at-risk groups whilst a full investigation of how contaminants crept in was conducted. This would likely have happened at least in Japan, but most likely other industrialised countries would have followed suit.
Safetyism might be the official cover.
In truth it’s been driven by monetary, eugenic, social control/totalitarian motives and a vain desire by leaders to win the various international pi**ing contests reg. various Covid/vaxx stats and league tables.
Just been on a call with some people from work. The conversation got onto ‘boosters’. All said they couldn’t wait. I said that I didn’t think it was necessary, at least yet; I would wait and see how it mutated. One said, ‘I’ve had Covid once and it was horrible. I don’t want it again’. Others agreed.
Even if you believe that the vaccine is, on balance, the better option for older people (most on the call were over 50), it must be clear that, at best, it mimics one infection and prepares the body’s defences to fight another one. If someone has already had a bad dose, they probably didn’t need the first round of vaccinations and the risk/ benefit balance for the ‘booster’ must be tipped in favour of risk for all but the oldest and most immune suppressed. The idea that, if they don’t have the ‘booster’, they will get another infection as bad as the first is surely nonsense. These are not stupid people; most have degrees (from the days when they meant something) and all work in a management/ administrative capacity in a scientific organisation. It’s as if they have suspended their intelligence and believe everything that they are told by the BBC.
I am not anti-vaccine, and I don’t have any conspiracy theories about it; I just don’t follow the ‘sacrifice yourself for the public good and to save the NHS’ line and I intend to do what seems the safest thing for me. I’ve never had a test (I refuse to participate in that for anything but hospital admission) but I’m pretty sure that I’ve had it too, at least once. The first time was unpleasant but I survived and I undoubtedly would again.
These are people who will have had numerous colds throughout their lives, along with many of the usual childhood illnesses and probably a few bouts of ‘flu. Why have they suddenly become terrified of any respiratory infection and think it will kill them? Why haven’t I fallen for that nonsense? Largely, I suspect, because I don’t have a television!
“Why have they suddenly become terrified of any respiratory infection and think it will kill them?“
Because, evidently, they are gullible people who have been exposed to fear propaganda and to professional manipulation, and fallen for it.
“Why haven’t I fallen for that nonsense? Largely, I suspect, because I don’t have a television!”
Seems a fairly good bet…
Good old Noah, still avoiding the underlying truth about the ‘vaccines’ (which aren’t) : ARR ~1%.
I appreciate he’s not in favour of the roll-out and coercion But, Noah : “COVID, in other words, is here to stay.”
… and that is no big deal, and never was, judged by real and historical mortality. Certainly not enough to induce the incontinent panic and control that we’ve seen , and getting less of a problem – except for ‘vaccine’ effects.
For vaccine fanatics : Remember that we have lived with influenza and their pretty ineffective vaccines for years and years.
Yet another article exposing the Daily Sceptic’s true Establishment colours, shamelessly running to the defense of the enemies of humanity, desperately trying to persuade people they mean no harm. It’s actually getting quite pathetic. What is wrong with you people? The UK is being destroyed from within, they are literally steering us into some kind of CCP inspired Orwellian/technocratic/fascist nightmare, they are provably carrying out a genocide of your fellow countrymen, and they are doing all of this in the name of a virus which is no more deadly than the common flu and which if there was no headlines, people would not even comment on its existence because it is not noticeable.
Here are some good articles exposing HMG’s crimes from earlier in the scamdemic. Some of the info is a bit dated but there is some crucial to understand pieces in here exposing the crimes like changing the laws on death certificate registration to facilitate death cert forgery and the disgraceful psychological warfare tactics they have waged on the British people. All cockup of course, if you believe in the liars and deceivers who run this site.
COVID 19 – The UK Scamdemic – Part 2
https://in-this-together.com/covid-19-the-uk-scamdemic-part-2/
COVID 19 Is A Statistical Nonsense
https://in-this-together.com/covid-19-is-a-statistical-nonsense/
Toby’s nice and comfy. Nostalgically titillating himself with memories of skiing holidays and unmasked strolls on beaches and times when people were nicer to one another. Thinks we’ll be back there in no time when the government comes to its senses.
Permanence is the illusion of every age. The structural changes that have taken place in the health and financial systems and in the relationship between states and citizens are going to force a very dark age upon us which we’re all going to have to adapt to or perish.
And when it happens you’re going to read on DS that is was all part of some hubristic “cock-up”.
There is an element in the shit-show that is to do with ‘safetyism’ – i.e. playing on irrational and disproportionate Fear – even if it’s not the whole story.
The interesting thing in that context is how this becomes a contradiction of itself (even if sincerely meant – like keeping children away from bacteria). You end up with a cure that is more poisonous and harmful than the disease.
This contradiction is vivid in the case of the moderate infection that is SARS-Cov-2.
Safetyism? For pharma bank accounts. Anything else, not so much.
“Safetyism” is a word you’ve made up so you don’t have to confront the idea that a massive and coordinated power grab is going on that has been planned way in advance of this “pandemic” and is using it as a pretext to implement it.
Agenda 2030 and the Great Reset is what this is about. Get with the program and stop making up silly words like “safetyism” and “cockupspiracy” so you can live in some fantasy of going “back to normal”. It isn’t going to happen.
The EU have planned vaccine passports for years before the pandemic and were due to roll them out at exactly this moment. Is that “safetyism”, or is it something else?
Safetyism isn’t a term TY has invented and it’s a real phenomenon. The mistake made here is to attribute the govts motivation to it, whereas the role played by safetyism is in fact to enable dishonest tyranny by using safety as a cover.
The correct term is obeyism.
You can be sure many “more powerful” vaccines will be developed… as long as they have to be taken regularly and more money can be made.
There seems to be a lot of downticks all of a sudden. Is there somebody going through the comments and randomly down ticking….? Silly troll or something more sinister…….?
They changed the setting to display upticks and downticks separately. So instead of seeing the aggregate total you see both. And because normally I suspect there are many more upticks than down, the most obvious effect of the change is that you see a lot more downticks.
Previously most of those downticks would have been hidden by being aggregated into an overall positive number of upticks.
Oh I didn’t know that they had changed the settings, that makes sense now, thanks.
Immunity against infection is semantically the same as bolting the stable door to prevent horses from remaining inside.
It’s hard to see how circum-navigating all established safety protocols and suppressing the use of proven safe alternatives to authorise novel drugs then, once said drugs have shown themselves beyond reasonnable doubt to be extremely dangerous and counter productive in their claimed safety aim, coercing people to take them without any form of risk assessment can reasonnably be described as ‘safetyism.’ It’s time to stop clinging to naive theories that this is all just a big mistakes and face facts that there are extremely malicious agenda at play.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/09/in_melbourne_australia_the_fury_over_vaccine_mandates_is_exploding.html
“In Melbourne, Australia, the fury over vaccine mandates is explodingThe Australian state of Victoria, the capital of which is Melbourne, Australia’s second-largest city, has seen some of the world’s most draconian COVID rules. The latest order, mandating vaccines for the construction industry along with a two-week industry-wide shutdown, sparked huge, violent protests from trade unions. Most strikingly, union members turned against their own union boss.”
This is what these insane, draconian measures to force people to get vaccinated, and to suppress an unsuppressable virus leads to: violence and social breakdown. I’m just surprised it hasn’t happened earlier in Australia.
A vaccine with minimal safety and efficacy data was rolled out. 15,000 and counting now dead due to the vaxx in the USA. Thousands of serious adverse events.why on earth would anyone take an experimental biological like this? Why would anyone even consider giving their spare doses to a poorer country? They don’t want them.
Surely what is needed is a simple, accurate test for immunity. PCR tests as currently carried out are more likely to result in immune people testing positive due to small residues of inactive virus, and this is why infection rates as reported are inaccurately overstated. This could save large quantities of vaccine, not in the interest of the big pharma companies making big profits from it, so they will make sure it doesn’t happen. There seems to be very little evidence that booster jabs are effective and vaccinating 12-15 year old children is pointless, so who is running our country? !t seems the large pharma companies are calling the shots and because governments don’t include any competent scientists they fall in line either through corruption or ignorance with whatever they say. This virus has highlighted the need for top scientists to be part of government and given a major part of government with a committee of scientific colleagues covering the range of scientific opinion, so the correct action can be taken. Its obvious the current SAGE committee is not fit for purpose and the country in general has little confidence in the current crop of chief medical officers who seem to be in position to justify what the government, without any scientific basis, wants to do.
After all this time, of course there should be a simple test for immunity. As there should be a simple, non invasive and more accurate test than the not-fit-for-purpose PCR. But why should such things be developed when the objective is to make people afraid and to suffer indignities, not to improve public health? This is about control, not well being.
”…. they risk undermining trust in government and the healthcare system.”
The person who wrote this doesn’t do ”irony”, obviously.