We know that vaccine effectiveness against infection was wildly overestimated. The evidence is now clear: the vaccines don’t stop transmission. But what about effectiveness against serious disease and death? There’s a certain amount of evidence that that too has been overestimated.
Several datasets have revealed a ‘healthy vaccinee’ effect, whereby vaccinated people are less likely to die of non-Covid causes. Since the vaccines don’t protect against things other than Covid, this suggests that those who opt into vaccination are inherently healthier and/or more risk-averse than those who don’t.
The ‘healthy vaccinee’ effect may partly derive from a quirk of methodology. As HART researchers have noted, it’s common practice to exclude data from the first 14 days after vaccination. If the most frail people tend to die in that 14 day period, their exclusion would reduce the average frailty in the vaccinated population.
I should add that this is pure speculation on my part. Nonetheless, the ‘healthy vaccinee’ effect clearly demands further scrutiny.
Another piece of evidence suggesting that vaccine effectiveness against death has been overestimated is that some countries have seen as much excess mortality in their post-vaccination waves as they saw in their pre-vaccination waves. I previously presented charts showing this for Israel. Here I’ll present similar charts for several other countries.
First, Austria saw a large uptick in excess mortality, beginning in mid October. At this time, 62% of the population was double vaccinated, including a much higher percentage of the elderly.
Second, Germany also saw a large uptick in excess mortality in mid October. At this time, 65% of the population was double vaccinated, including a much higher percentage of the elderly.
Third, the Netherlands also saw a large uptick in excess mortality in mid October. At this time, 68% of the population was double vaccinated, including a much higher percentage of the elderly.
Fourth, Norway saw a moderate uptick in excess mortality in mid October, which was larger than any previous wave. At this time, 68% of the population was double vaccinated, including a much higher percentage of the elderly.
As noted last time, I’m not claiming these plots amount to a comprehensive analysis. But it’s hard to reconcile them with claims of, say, 90% effectiveness against death.
Take Austria. More than 80% of over 50s were double vaccinated by early October. Given that the vast majority of Covid deaths occur in this group, if the vaccines were 90% effective against death, you’d expect to have seen only a handful of deaths in the post-vaccination wave. In fact, unadjusted excess mortality reached 40% by early December.
One thing these four countries, plus Israel, have in common is that they experienced below-average excess deaths in their pre-vaccination waves (relative to other countries in Europe). As a result, there may have been more very frail elderly people alive when their post-vaccination waves hit. In other words, the ‘dry tinder’ effect may be relevant here.
None of this implies the vaccines don’t protect you against severe Covid. But it does suggest their effectiveness has been somewhat overstated.
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Presumably that is because the ‘vaccines’ are neither safe or effective
I refer to the bible of vaccine safety….
https://www.independentinformation.co.uk/resources/articles/covid-vaccines-safe-effective
Thanks for the link. I haven’t read the article yet but it looks interesting. Will read later
Great, don’t miss the contribution from Dr Flemming, an incredibly clever chap with at least 5 brains, is warning that the vaccines are delivering a Prion to its victims. A prion will kill you over time and there is no cure, mad cow disease is an example of a prion.
What we do know is that we don’t know and probably never will for sure. The stats have been so corrupted. However all cause excess deaths is something we do have a handle on and for the third time during the ‘covid’ episode we see excess in all ages over 45 years across Europe. It is however almost the same as the 2018 ‘flu’ excess, which to my simple brain implies that the best that can be said of the covid vaccines is that they provide about the same protection against death as a flu jab. Which is not a lot.
This cannot be true. Biden promised us that if we took the vaccines we would not catch the covid
Please God let this not be true
Are you seriously suggesting the past two years has been for nothing?
I’ve even had a portrait of Chris Whitty tattooed on my left shoulder blade
You can always transform the Chris whitty tattoo to that of cult horror figure, Freddy Krueger, with minimal work.
Thanks. Will do
But the “non-official” spoof BBC made of Line of Duty with the actual actors doing voice-over, asserts that “we” -as in the whole country- sacrificed so much over the last 2 years while Pfeffel partied.
According to the BBC, so many people have died on the Alter of Covid thanks to reckless behaviour of people who do not follow the rules.
It’s typical socialism; preach a message on behalf of a whole diverse group of opinions as if we all believe in their one message. Worse is that their message is hijacking from pro-freedom “anti-vaxxers” and merging it into their anti-freedom message. Again, typical socialism.
The interesting aspect of this effect isn’t so much that the vaccinated are less likely to die, but more that the unvaccinated are much more likely to die not-from-covid, not just compared with the vaccinated, but also compared with long term average death rates per age group. This is difficult to explain other than the healthy-vaccinee effect.
They should have done proper post-authorisation matched-cohort based monitoring of the vaccines.
Instead they did the weakest monitoring they could get away with.
Pfisser knew its stuff was of questionable value at best, politicians wanted a quick, easy and ‘cheap’ out of the mess they created. Simples. Jab first, ask questions later.
On a somewhat separate note, in the data you come across, have you seen any rise in acute lukemia cases and sepsis? You’ve mentioned increases in strokes and cardiac events, just curious if the other two are occurring at higher than normal levels.
In addition, do you or does anyone on the board have any idea whether the effect of the jab (in essence temporary antibodies specific to the spike protein) is all that different from the monoclonal antibody treatment, other than that one uses the body to produce the treatment and the other is a more laborious production method?
Monoclonal antibodies are exactly that: 1 type of antibody, copied from the plasma of a recovered covid patient. The virus can evolve to become resistant to them, depending on how preserved the key epitope at the binding site is in the mutated virus. There is no memory cell involvement and they are short lived in the body.
vaccine induced antibodies are polyclonal, with both neutralising and non neutralising types. But without the degree of variety you’d get from natural viral infection. There seems to be some memory cell involvement (though doesn’t appear to be v helpful to durable immunity)
im sure there are some mistakes in that, but that’s my broad understanding
Thanks. The reason I asked is that by and large they both seem to do the same thing – provide temporary treatment of the symptoms of the virus after it gets past the first line of defence.
Neither provides immunity, neither lasts for a particularly long time. But with the monoclonal antibodies, the treatment is at least aimed only at those who are actually ill (as opposed to ‘treating’ millions of perfectly healthy people) and is given on an ‘as needed’ basis, rather than being put in place on a ‘might be needed’ basis that continually requires topping up.
Ironically the risk averse covid bed wetters are the types more likely to queue all day in the freezing rain for a clot shot.But far less likely to be jokers smokers and midnight tokers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb1TIGvvWWE
But if those who die <14 days after the vaccine are excluded from those counted as vaccinated, then all the stats are inevitably skewed and inaccurate. Which is pretty much the story of this whole pandemic. Lies, damned lies, and very dodgy statistics.
“Germany saw a large uptick in excess morality…”
I believe it’s called virtue signalling, a key aspect of this whole sorry charade.
It’s beginning to look a lot like vaccine narrative collapsemas. Grab the
, hide behind the 
and do NOT whatever you do tell anyone you told them so.
Let’s hope so, crisisgarden!
Wellll…… I told you so
It’s been a flaccid balloon from the start. Yet this hasn’t end a thing, as yet.
Never forgive the uncoerced collaborators.
Time to applaud Croatian MEP Mislav Kolakušić who gives WEF/SGL puppet Macron a bitch-slap….
https://twitter.com/LaserHodl/status/1485054606489051137?s=20
Crushed mummy’s boy Macron under the weight of his balls.
Croatia is another wonderful country that, like the fabulous Slovenia, welcomes the unvaccinated to their beautiful country and Mediterranean coastline – cross Spain, France, italy and the other new fascist holiday destinations of your list and enjoy real hospitality a little further east. (The super friendly Slovenias speak better English than we do as well as having the most amazing lakes and mountains)
How dumb do you have to be, to completely remove from the analysis the lockdowns and more severe restrictions of 2020 (pre-vaccination) compared to the post-vaccination era? You really, really have to either be super dumb, or simply dishonest.
People are now travelling more freely, going to indoor places without restrictions, lockdowns are not as prominent as before.
You really have to be dumb to write this kind of dishonest articles.
Also, what a scientific and rigorous article: ZERO SOURCES for your 5 charts.
Your analysis’ methodology (mixing up various concepts, comparing apples and oranges) is really terrible.
How dumb do you have to be to exclude the extra deaths in 2020 caused by the overpresciption of Midazolam.
How dumb do you have to be to accept the tortuous excuses from the biggest finees in history.
What is the link?
Anyway, in case of doubts:
https://twitter.com/Brian_Orak/status/1485067701198409730/photo/1
the source is a report dated 7th January 2021 – seems a little confusing
The Midazolam murders is an ongoing investigation into excessive use of Midazolam in hospitals and care homes to ensure excess numbers of the elderly died.
https://www.thebernician.net/london-met-police-set-to-investigate-the-midazolam-murders/
Yet another troll
Now just because he comes across as an arrogant tosser doesn’t make him a troll. Hopefully someone, who can be bothered, can answer his interestingly put points.
for me the article is excellent, I guess I must be a dumb ass – LOL
I don’t need “analysis methodology” to exercise my right to make up my mind about a “jab” that is never good enough, for an illness that is not bad enough to warrant the hassle.
my mind was made up even before a plane load of Pfizer jabs landed in Gibraltar and shortly after all the elderly in nursing homes started dying of ‘covid’
You’re one of them conspiracy nuts, aren’t you? I’ve read about your sort on the BBC.
They’ve gone quiet over vax nos. 4-eternity, tactically no doubt.
Yet they expect us to believe that in an ’emergency’ incompetent scientists are allowed to get away with non-functioning interventions time and time again for a putatively lethal plague, justifying terror and coercion.
They have multiple ineffective stabs ready in advance for innocuous scariants that do not yet exist.
Hmm
Draw your own conclusions.
How ‘kerching to infinity’ sound as a conclusion?
Yes, It’s only been a couple of weeks since Tobias Ellwood was on air talking about the need for 5 to 6 jabs. Seems like a long time ago now .
Don’t understand the statement they always make about reducing symptoms, how would they know? Plus, deaths, the majority were caused by removing already ill people with end of life conditions including age, from critical care in hospital, care workers are not equipped to deal with that. The rollout might have beaten other countries but doubts about the actual ‘vaccine’
They don’t know, they just kept repeating that point again and again and again until just about everybody believed it, including the medical professionals.
I’ve pointed out before that sometime early summer 2021 the Dutch OMT said that a lot of people had been kept out of hospital earlier that winter because of a concerted effort between GPs, home nursing care and use of drugs and equipment not used in the first wave (oximeters, steroids, oxygen at home). This coincided with the vaxx roll-out, so it strikes me as impossible to say what contributed more – better, more appropriate treatment or the vaxx.
Come autumn 2021, it was clear the vaxx was doing nothing, so the waning of vaxx efficectiveness had to be admitted, without bothering to prove that it had ever actually worked. Most countries didn’t complete their vaxx roll-outs until well after the winter 2021 wave and going into spring/summer was always going to see a drop.
Indeed – a clear example of how propaganda works.
If one injects non-immunizing, limited effectiveness therapeutics into a purposefully designed continuous GoF Flu virus loop… what do you imagine the results would be?
Equally if you have a financially unserviceable 60-80 something demographic time bomb lurking within your national state…. I would put it to you… this was fully understood from the very start.
There are a couple of things missing here, one of which you touched but should have probed more.
The 14 days post jab not being counted as vaccinated wherein that was a death spike as it rolled down relentlessly down the cohorts.
I suspect that the September October excess mortality is from the youngest cohorts dying at 30 to 40% above the norm post clot shot.
It’s time you guys looked at the batches analysis to see how rollouts had stastically significant alterations as time progressed due to the alarming killshot hits in the first phases of Dec and Jan 21. Additionally that certain batches were killing larger numbers of people. Pharma uses placebos as well, this allows them to track the vax effects in real time without our knowledge or analysis.
Mike Yeadon talking about batches – strategic harm.
VAERS reports fluctuate wildly between batches. Either the manufacturing process is being significantly altered batch to batch or they are using different ingredients. There is no other benign explanation. Yeadon says he can prove this in court if need be.
The batches given to the public are not what they gave to the trial participants – all claims of safety and efficacy are therefore fraudulent.
No credible data proves these jabs have helped anyone because they were never meant to.
From the video:
Red line shows the highest SAR’s reported for a flu vaccine batch in 10 years (37 reports, the average is 4 reports per batch). The worst Pfizer covid vaccine batch racked up 622 reports. Orders of magnitude more toxic and dangerous.
Sorry to keep replying to myself but this data is astounding. The above chart shows these jabs are not the same consistent product, and yet they have been letting people mix and match different manufacturers for repeat jabs, no cross-reaction studies done to back that up either! it’s absolutely insane.
yes, the vaccine injuries varying so hugely depending on lot is clear evidence the mass vaccination program has nothing to do with protecting the population from any virus. Unfortunately only people like MY understand the implications of the data, and we need him and his associates to break through the censorship. meanwhile we should avoid these death shots at all costs.
Something is not false simply because it sounds too fantastic to be true
17,371…The actual number of people that have died of covid and nothing else (no comorbidities) over the last two year’s combined in England and Wales! FOI request ONS figures. As the weeks and month’s elapse, more and more evidence accumulates exposing the biggest lie in history.
The avalanche of truth is that great that we see a perceptible change in the evil narrative perpetuated by the a complicit turd of a political/scientific/media establishment. But many cannot see the wood for the trees, the torrent of info is that great.
To reiterate….17,371, the number of people who died of covid with no comorbidities in the last two years…THE BIGGEST LIE IN HISTORY! We now await the unfolding of the REAL agenda…
The FOI response I’ve looked shows just 6,181 deaths where Covid19 was the sole cause of death recorded. This is for the period Feb2020 to Dec 21. The issue with co-morbidities is a different question. But what these data show is the devastating effects of lockdowns on our health.
BTW I just heard this morning the NHS as being described as being under pressure from a range of illnesses, such as cancer and heart disease. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing, The message is quite clear – ill people put the NHS under pressure. I had this naive view that health care provision was to help people get better? Obviously I was wrong. It’s clearly our duty not to get ill, as the NHS obviously has better things to do than to care for sick people. As in the classic yes Minister sketch, a perfect NHS wouldn’t have any patients!
I’ve always doubted the claim that vaccines have been the key. Even Julia Hartley- Brewer on Talk Radio continually bangs on about how the vaccines have ‘clearly’ been the answer but there is nothing clear about it at all. So-called ‘cases’ and deaths were far fewer in summer and autumn of 2020 when no one was vaccinated. Personally, I simply believe the virus has done what it was always naturally going to do. Well, it would have done but NPI’s and everything associated with them have interrupted its normal course.
Ignoring all the usual caveats about pcrs, cases and deaths etc
2020 covid deaths – 72178
cfr – 0.128%
Current number – 153787
cfr – will be lower still mainly due to ridiclous levels of testing
so an increase of 81609 in just over a year. That with vaccines, milder variants and better treatments. Plus much more natural immunity in society. You can analyse this in many ways and consider many factors, but the raw stats says the vaccines have done sfa overall.
Just this week. 18 year old Brazilian model dies fully “vaxed” “with Covid (hmmm)
https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2022/01/12/vaccinated-model-valentina-boscardin-dies/
6 year old (wtf) Portuguese boy dies one week after vax of a heart attack.
https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2022/01/18/vaccinated-boy-died-aged-6-heart-attack/
Happens all the time
I wonder what could have caused that.
As have too many others lured into BIG Pharma’s global experimental trial, with these two little words: Safe & Effective
“None of this implies the vaccines don’t protect you against severe Covid”
True. But this applies to practically any hypothetical assertion about the concoctions.
The basic fact of the jabs needs to be constantly asserted in order to cut through the myths :
We just have no way of knowing anything about the effects, because there is no satisfactory test data, which is necessary to underpin any assertion of effectiveness or safety.
The trials showed what the jabs did. No overall mortality benefit, marginal efficacy.
“None of this implies the vaccines don’t protect you against severe Covid”
No one has died of covid who was not already at death’s door with age-frailty, terminal illness, or morbid obesity. For fit-and-well people aged under 65, the case-fatality-rate has been 0.01%, one tenth that for annual seasonal flu. What a triumph of marketing it has been to sell the line that the covid vaccines broke the link between cases and deaths, when, for all but 2% of the population, there never was any link to break. Just shows what an alliance of mafia pharma with government can achieve by capturing the media, vilifying dissent, censoring debate and fear-porning the public.
Let no one in the the UK feel morally superior to China anymore. Our society is like theirs now, and people here have let it happen.
Noah Carl, show us the data that shows “vaccines” protect people.
The Science said they do:
COVID LETHAL! JABS SAVE! UNJABBED EVIL!
The science says they do but saying it and proving it seems to be beyond them.
Exactly. Although it is all based on blind faith from the public, and rhetoric from the government (these two factors – not truth itself – are the key).
Only anti-vaxx drivel tolerated here. It is editorial policy.
When are you going to post a pro-vaxx study showing that they actually work?
Also see more great work by John Dee. He shows that the un-vaccinated are intrinsically sicker than the vaccinated, so of course their outcomes are worse!
https://jdee.substack.com/p/report-19-fallout-mean-hospitalisation
I like the “excess morality” bit! Sounds pretty accurate to me.
More evidence of the Vax scam every day!
There Are Now 365 Studies that Prove the Efficacy of Ivermectin and HCQ in Treating COVID-19. Any hospital administrator who mandated the shots to employees to comply with the government mandate for Medicare and Medicaid reimbursement and who refused to allow alternative treatments to be tried, doctors who pushed their patients to take the EUA drug without giving fully informed consent, anyone who forcefully administered the shot, the AMA, AAP, Boards of Health, CDC, FDA, NIH, WHO, scientists who participated in the development, Big Pharma (Pfizer, Moderna, J&J, Astra Zeneca, et. al.), anyone who pushed the sick into nursing homes resulting in deaths, all must be arrested, prosecuted, tried and if found guilty sentenced to prolonged imprisonment and fines or death for intentional homicide. Get your ivermectin before it is too late! https://ivmpharmacy.com
Was that headline from the file marked ”Stating The Bl**din Obvious”?
Interesting that Germany and the Netherlands had an increase in morality… A curious side-effect.
The 14 days delay on recording individuals as jabbed is not a quirk, it is a feature. Btw, overall mortality data is all there in the trials. The mRNA jabs are killing people.
Dr Robert Malone – powerful succinct believable.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1485358728379572227
Listen to the end………
https://twitter.com/i/status/1485358728379572227
‘None of this implies the vaccines don’t protect you against severe Covid. But it does suggest their effectiveness has been somewhat overstated.’
Since the ‘Covid’ virus/bug/germ/bacillus/whatever has never been positively identified/captured/found, how can the author talk about protection from ‘severe Covid’?
Since my earliest memories there has been a Common Cold Research Unit seeking the Holy Grail of a cure for the common cold. It might still be there, draped in dusty spiders’ webs like King Arthur sitting at his Round Table.
Until we refer to the problem by its proper name we will be playing, and losing, under the enemy’s rules.
i do not know about the other countries but the numbers in the netherlands are unreliable.
during the first several months of the epidemic about half of the deaths were not counted.
only after the first wave they started counting the dead outside of hospitals.
apart from that the rivm, the dutch health organisation that is supposed to provide numbers and guidance, has proven to be unreliable in providing accurate numbers and is in fact falsifying numbers on a grand scale.
recently vast numbers of excess deaths vanished retrospectively after questions were put forward in parliament about them.
as if the dead had come to life….