NHS Vaccine Mandate “To Be Delayed”

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The NHS vaccine mandate is likely to be “kicked down the road”, a Whitehall source has told the Telegraph, amid demands by Conservative MPs for it to be scrapped entirely. The Telegraph has the story.

Compulsory Covid vaccines for NHS workers would be delayed for six months, under eleventh-hour plans being considered by Boris Johnson to help quell a seismic revolt among Tory MPs.

On Saturday night, just two weeks before the NHS is due to begin sacking staff who have not had a jab, a Whitehall source said that the requirement is likely to be “kicked down the road”, amid demands by Conservative backbenchers for it to be dropped entirely. …

All frontline NHS staff are required to have had two jabs by April 1st, but more than 80,000 – 6% of the workforce – remain unvaccinated.

The plan being considered at senior levels of Government is to overhaul the requirement so that staff would, in theory, be required to have their booster too. The deadline would also be delayed by six months, ostensibly to give workers time to get their third jab. Such a delay is likely to reassure some MPs opposed to the move that it will ultimately not transpire.

It was starting to feel inevitable, but it’s good to see signals appearing. Now we just need to see it permanently scrapped, and the care home mandate removed as well.

Worth reading in full.

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Polemon2
Polemon2
4 years ago

Whether one agrees with vaccination or not, someone in the Department of Health needs mental health treatment.
Back in 2003 when bedblocking started to be a problem the DOH introduced fines on local authorities for discharge delays thus reducing the funding available to pay for home care services.
Now the DOH introduces mandatory vaccination for care home and care home workers thus reducing the staff available to provide home care services.
They are then surprised that bedblocking increases.
Clearly the solution is to introduce mandatory vaccination for hospital staff which will reduce the ability of hospitals to provide a service. So if there are fewer people in hospital there will be fewer delayed discharges.
Problem solved!!
We saved the NHS (again)

Can nobody at the DOH see the the stupidity of this approach?

As a side issue is it not remarkable that NHS staff protests should receive large amounts of media coverage whilst mandatory vaccination and hence reduced employment in care homes and home care workers goes virtually unreported by the media. (Sorry – I forgot that NHS issues are more important than anything else!)

Nymeria
Nymeria
4 years ago
LonePatriot
LonePatriot
4 years ago

Reuters reporting Japan is at 1% of its COVID peak cases and falling. India is at 3% of its peak and falling. What did these countries do? Ditch vaccine mandates for ivermectin. Since April 28, India medical officials started providing hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin to its massive population. As India is the major pharmaceutical manufacturer in the world, they were ready for this massive drug distribution. MIRACULOUSLY!, COVID cases have plummeted quickly since then. Meanwhile, all “first world” countries in Europe are reporting a rise in cases. Get your ivermectin before it is too late! https://ivmpharmacy.com

John
John
4 years ago

Ironical Wales will accept non vaccinated NHS staff from England. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-60103323

Bertha
Bertha
4 years ago

Is the NHS mandate being applied in Scotland, Nicola. You have led the way to keep us safe, not like the gung ho granny killers of Westminster. I look forward to you forcing my medical providers to be Jabbed to keep me safe. That’s right, isn’t it, Nicola?

Nicola?

Jason?

Devi?

Anyone?

Star
Star
4 years ago

Some comments on the Torygraph article this header is based on…

1. “The plan being considered at senior levels of Government is to overhaul the requirement so that staff would, in theory, be required to have their booster too. The deadline would also be delayed by six months, ostensibly to give workers time to get their third jab.”

What?? There’s a massive hole in that. Here it is: what would happen to the requirement that they get their FIRST injection by 3 February?

2. “Meanwhile, on Saturday night, Mark Spencer, the Chief Whip, identified himself as the subject of incendiary claims by Nusrat Ghani, a vice chair of the Conservatives’ 1922 committee, that her “Muslimness” was raised at a meeting that led to her sacking in a 2020 reshuffle. Mr Spencer insisted the allegations were false, adding: ‘I have never used those words attributed to me.’”

Let’s look at the whole of what he posted and then deleted:

“To ensure other whips are not drawn into this matter, I am identifying myself as the person Nusrat Ghani MP has made claims about this evening. These accusations are completely false and I consider them to be defamatory. I have never used… Read more »

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

Well worth watching.

Alkanet
Alkanet
4 years ago

In Hull report on NHS protest against vaxxing staff elicits, on the whole, comments that decent vaxxed people wouldn’t want to be treated by filthy unvaxxed ones (would love to see them turned away if they stuck to that insincere lie) and apoplectic outrage that the term “experimental” is applied by anyone to the lifesaving jabs that have been administered to 8 billion worldwide with only a few minor/mild adverse reactions. These people are well suited to endless boosters as they haven’t the intelligence to question anything and it’s remarkable that they somehow managed to survive before the covid era.

Darryl
Darryl
4 years ago

Interesting that the regime had entirely TSG (riot police) at yesterdays London rally. All had their riot helmets and weapons with them at all time. Can you image this type of treatment for other causes?

London football matches got community support officers and constables, whilst the un-jabbed NHS workers got Israeli Defence Force (Attack Force really) 16 Stone plus monsters raring for a fight. How times have changed. Forth Reich Britain.

webtrekker
webtrekker
4 years ago

What about all the poor sods (like my neighbours, who both work for NHS) who never wanted them but have already taken the jabs to keep their jobs and may now find them unnecessary?

Catee
Catee
4 years ago
Reply to  webtrekker

There will be alot in that boat.
To be honest I have little sympathy for them, at least 80,000 held the line, had the other thousands had the balls to do so it wouldn’t have got as far as it has.

CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

The collaborators sealed their own fate.

jc83
jc83
4 years ago

I agree with a lot of the comments on here. We shouldn’t be breathing a sigh of relief yet. I believe in the words of Admiral Ackbar, “It’s a trap”

Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
4 years ago

In 6 months time there will be 4 or 5 “booster” shots required. Even if they wanted to, wouldn’t it be a bit like trying to catch something thats ever moving out of your reach?

Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
4 years ago

6 months more for the “unvaccinated” to go out and get a better job and if the NHS want you back demand more money.

I’m sure there are jobs in the private health sector that won’t demand the clot shot.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago

“Delayed”.simply not good enough- scrapped permanently from today will do.

Then we need the Crimes Against Humanity investigation to proceed against named individuals in support of the Metropolitan Police investigation..

They are playing games with us hoping the crowds and the crimes will just ‘go away’ and they can carry on just as before with their ‘project’

JeremyP99
JeremyP99
4 years ago

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/22/contents

“Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984 (c. 22) Part 2A – Public Health Protection Document Generated: 2021-11-07 15 Changes to legislation: Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984 is up to date with all changes known to be in force on or before 07 November 2021. There are changes that may be brought into force at a future date. Changes that have been made appear in the content and are referenced with annotations. (See end of Document for details) View outstanding changes Introductory 45A Infection or contamination (1) The following provisions have effect for the interpretation of this Part.”

“45E Medical treatment (1) Regulations under section 45B or 45C may not include provision requiring a person to undergo medical treatment. (2) “ Medical treatment ” includes vaccination and other prophylactic treatment”

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago

This is exactly what I said they would do. For two guys who appear not to get on Johnson seems to ape Macron a lot. They will make everyone in the NHS and wider get treble jabbed, which means they have to extend the deadline. It puts off redundancies and gives Johnson a breathing space to satisfy the backbenchers. But it stops nothing, the mandate is extended not removed.

Watney
Watney
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Agreed, Mr Toad is in a hole so he will apply delaying tactics, but that gives us time to change the narrative.

Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

And meanwhile adverse vaxxine effects will continue to rise. We are sitting on a time bomb and they will not be able to hide the statistcs any longer.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

All “international conflict” is just pure theatre to fuel or protect the narrative !

Watney
Watney
4 years ago

It seems everyone has forgotten these “vaccines” are only available under Emergency Use Authorisation. They’re not fully authorised, yet it’s deemed reasonable to mandate them for these staff.
I saw a video to staff at my local hospital where it was obvious the Chief Executive was simply carrying out orders. Orders he said he’d only just got the week before. Fairly unsympathetic. Just wanted to persuade.
It’s not just front line as staff will always be passing patients although there was discussion whether those in an admin building some distance from the main building might not be subject.
I took a look at the Unite union website where there’s a luke warm PDF of advice with delaying tactics for individual dismissals but no sign of opposition.
if the programme gets delayed, that’s good, but it probably just means a change of tack.

caipirinha17
caipirinha17
4 years ago
Reply to  Watney

Yes exactly, I wonder what people will do when we reach a point where there are no jabs. The companies could easily decide not to continue developing/producing them, or proof could (somehow) emerge that there is a better alternative regime, which would invalidate EUA. The believers really can’t wrap their heads around that one.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Watney

They are currently working hard to rig the authorisation – just watch!

Fauci will be on overtime! He wants the small children now,

Adrian25
Adrian25
4 years ago

It’s going to be very interesting in another 12 months if someone does a serious study on the rates of sickness among NHS employees between the jabbed and the unjabbed.

Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago
Reply to  Adrian25

That’s a good point. Is there any evidence that the unjabbed have a higher sickness rate than the jabbed?

Where I work- not a medical place- one member of staff claims he had covid in December 2020 (though he had no respiratory symptoms at all), he then had 2 jabs plus the booster during 2021. After each jab he had to take time off work because he felt ill, he has also had time off with other things practically every month for the last 5 months.

Another relative of mine has been triple jabbed but regrets it; prior to being jabbed, she rarely had colds, since having the booster, she has had 2 severe colds (the type that put you in bed); and admits she doesn’t feel completely “right”.

I think the jabbed are more of a risk than the unjabbed, but who’s going to admit that?

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  Adrian25

Even better would be a study into the numbers of CV recovered who were unjabbed prior to infection vs jabbed who then got CV or suffered the effects of the jab which were deemed CV..

RTSC
RTSC
4 years ago

So the line is they’re going to allow these brave NHS personnel 6 months to have all 3 jabs, when they’ve made it perfectly clear they’re not going to have 2.

Kick that can …..

ImpObs
ImpObs
4 years ago

The NHS vaccine mandate is likely to be “kicked down the road”

Ah the old 3 steps forward two steps back favorite of any would be totalitarian

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

‘Kicking’ certainly ought to be involved in the resolution of this sh*t show – but – the illegal mandates are hardly the real target when other juicy fat ones are available!

Mumbo Jumbo
Mumbo Jumbo
4 years ago

Does anyone really believe they will now get rid of a large number of staff in the build-up to the next winter surge (from whatever)? Of course not.
The threat will disappear permanently.

Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Mumbo Jumbo

Just like the restrictions for international travel have disappeared, you mean?

I think this is just ‘The Covid Show’ continuing…. “another few months”… whilst the money from the tests and jabs keeps on rolling in.

Did anyone go back to collect their NHS uniforms laid out on the ground outside Downing Street yesterday? They’ll need them for work next week!!

helenf
helenf
4 years ago
Reply to  Mumbo Jumbo

Maybe the government are buying themselves time to get the overseas replacement workers in.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

Maybe training medical staff like they do the forces, sign up for 12 years, receive medical training all paid for, keep doing this and you’ve got a continuous force, could be the answer to the staff shortage.

Hester
Hester
4 years ago

The power is with the 70,000 demand they drop the requirement altogether otherwise walk out en masse, otherwise the threat will be held over your heads whilst they make arrangements to bring in overseas staff etc to replace you.

FlynnQuill
FlynnQuill
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

I’d like to know where 70,000 has suddenly come from. It seems like a nudge from the media to make people look like over 60,000 have capitulated and took the jab. Some may have due to having to support their family but over half, i don’t believe for one second. A couple of weeks ago it was 150,000 that hadn’t had the jab!

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  FlynnQuill

The Mass Media lies , the Politicians lie and the Pope used to be a Christian.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

Yes and they will be upping the number of arrivals at Dover – just watch!

All those “Brain Surgeons” just waiting their ‘fast tracked’ chance!

FlynnQuill
FlynnQuill
4 years ago

As we know this has nothing to do with protecting patients. If it was, then why wasn’t it brought in on the very day it was announced? Surely to delay even one hour could kill a patient. No, our government waited five months to implement a rule they said was being brought in to save lifes. How could people not see through this? Never underestimate the stupidity of human beings.

JamesDrebin
JamesDrebin
4 years ago

From the pay-walled article:

The plan being considered at senior levels of Government is to overhaul the requirement so that staff would, in theory, be required to have their booster too. The deadline would also be delayed by six months, ostensibly to give workers time to get their third jab. Such a delay is likely to reassure some MPs opposed to the move that it will ultimately not transpire.

So a pause in order to push even further. Not a reprieve.

Apache
Apache
4 years ago
Reply to  JamesDrebin

An article in The Times yesterday had 20% of NHS staff as not having had the 3rd shot. Where I work colleagues are openly saying that the ‘booster’ is too much and will not be having it. Of course if it is mandated and particularly if it is an ‘improved vaccine’ people may change their minds.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Apache

“Improved” in what sense ? Are the fatalities below expectation?

Isn’t 15% the “target”?

helenf
helenf
4 years ago
Reply to  Apache

Yep, twice bitten, third time shy. Are they really going to sack up to a fifth of the nhs workforce?

Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
4 years ago

In the UK there has been a determined push for mRNA vaccines with any other possibilities firmly kicked into the long grass. However the EU and Australia have now approved Novavax along with a number of other countries. The EU is talking about approving Valneva with roll out starting in April. It does make me wonder if the UK, having pushed the mRNA potions as far as they can go, will now approve alternatives and attempt to sign up the un-vaccinated NHS staff by offering alternatives?
Given the current status of the virus; vaccinations of any sort look ludicrous, but then ludicrous was been very much the watchword over the last 2 years.

sophie123
sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

They won’t work either. Though they may be marginally safer (not difficult)

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

How can anything work agains a constantly mutating Corina virus ? Isn’t this why we haven’t a universal vaccine for the common cold and never will have ?

The scam has been built on the total ignorance of the population, the majority of whom still have no clue what a “nanoparticle” or “synthetic spike protein” is or why the latter being manufactured by the billion in the cells of the injected.

Ask them about ADE and Cytokine Storms and they go blank.

RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Perhaps the most obvious symptom of ignorance is the loose employment of the term ‘Covid’.

Judy Watson
Judy Watson
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Also the term vaccine.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Judy Watson

They changed the medical definition of the term ‘vaccine’ to make it possible for them to use it – this alone should warn us of the ‘criminal intent’ to deceive the people!

CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

And aren’t necessary anyway – there’s no need for a vaccine against a jumped-up cold.

stewart
stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Good point. Pfizer has said it is working on the next version of their jab and Bill Gates is publicly saying they need to produce better versions of the jabs (he knows about having to have a few goes, the first useable Windows which took the world by storm was version 3.1).

The current jabs are becoming unmarketable. They could very well be holding fire until they get their next generation of COVID jabs out.

CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Windows is really not a good analogy! Every version has has issues, and roughly every alternate one has been utterly crap.

stewart
stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

So a perfect analogy then, because every other jab that comes out will probably be crap too…:-)

At least compared to our natural immune system.

Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Nobody needs Novavax nor Valneva – you are just perpetuating the scam. These are just more ‘vaccines’ to keep populations hostage, and to continue the Vaxx Pass requirements, travel restrictions, face masks, ‘social distancing’ and all the rest of the nonsense that is ‘Covid’.

Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

I don’t care how many versions of the jab they make I am not having any. Ive never had a flu jab and I’m certainly not having a Covid jab, I have faith in my immune system.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Spot on comment!

Catee
Catee
4 years ago

Great piece on Neil Oliver, GBN last night regarding the vax mandate, includes that well known voice of reason, Jon Gaunt – well worth a watch.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

It did kick off a bit didnt it, Gaunt does not want to be on the wrong side and even used the excuse that people get things even without a jab.

CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Gaunt called Abi Roberts a loud mouthed yob. Link to reply https://twitter.com/search?q=abi%20roberts&src=typed_query

Sforzesca
Sforzesca
4 years ago

I’m no expert when it comes to the length of medical training or NHS requirements, but don’t they say that they are about 90,000 short already – and doesn’t it take about 3 or 4 years to train a nurse and 3 years longer a doctor.
Do the maths, and winter’s coming again in 6 months.
Lol. Ain’t going to happen.

But, mandatory jabs for everyone is still very much alive – just look at the MSM and kids for God’s sake.

We’ve got the fight of our lives on our hands to stop this criminal insanity.
Hold the line, push back, convert a sheep a day, put up slogans, demonstrate, annoy the bastards whenever possible.

Adrian25
Adrian25
4 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

I have tried friendly persuasion and reasoning with limited success.
Unfortunately, it takes a serious adverse event to themselves or someone close to them, soon after the jabbing, before they believe it.

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

It appears to be NOT the time taken to train either, but the quality of the training; reading Dr K’s 3 tomes indicates that a significant part of Doctor training is severely compromised by ….the influence of the pharmaceutical industry (causes and treatment of CV/Diabetes, the LDL/HDL/Cholesterol/saturated fat …scam, the NICE but Pharma led delivery by spreadsheet of what is deemed to be health care, but is nothing of the kind, indiscriminate use of BMI as a health metric “tool” – a very apt description) ….and having been exposed to a 30 something GP telling me “stuff” that I have independently verified as bollocks , I see his analysis spread over the 3 tomes is indeed ..accurate.

How many GPs in the UK employ trained, Doctor level qualified, nutritional scientists..?

Nurses now need a degree – but they do NOT, according to TOH, do the basic nurse training of decades ago; this has been the case for some time and in her experience leads to SHO/reg/SnrReg/Cons intervention in episodes where previously Nurses were pre-eminent. Nurses can then become midwives – and if you want to see the effect of that , ask your local NHS Trust Women’s and Children’s management… Read more »

Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
4 years ago

Are they expecting ‘the unjabbed NHS workers’ to get all three jabs with 8 months starting from now? Or just the third ‘booster’?
By October the 5th jab will have been rolled out.

And how will their ‘Covidian’ co-workers like to be working beside ‘the unjabbed’? All part of the plan to smash the NHS? Just think of the amount of money that has already been diverted away from the NHS, given to their mates to procure face masks and ‘tests’.

£400 billion (??) frittered/squandered/given to their mates – none for the homeless/hungry/desperate/suicidal. But “they really care about you!”

stewart
stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

If the plan is to smash up the NHS, I’m in.

A detail in the article which I’m sure many didn’t pay much attention to is that 80,000 workers is only 6% of the total NHS workforce. The NHS is an absolute monster.

It’s too big to manage and govern properly, it has too much power and it gets way too much reverence.

it has been used as a pretext for turning our lives upside down and people have bought the pretext. It has to go.

Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I like the idea of a National Health Service, always have. But one that is run ‘properly’.
I don’t like the idea of telling people who become ill to “Piss off” if they can’t afford to see a doctor or pay for medical treatment.
My outlook would be to ‘improve’ the NHS, not get rid of it.

Catee
Catee
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

In which European countries do they refuse treatment for lack of money?

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

They don’t ‘refuse’ treatment as such – just make you wait two years for it and tell you ought to be grateful!

Polemon2
Polemon2
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Sound like the NHS then!

RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Yes. It’s a case of ‘Be careful of what you wish for’. The sloppy use of the term ‘the NHS’ often seen here is just a symptom of political dogma. The real issues are about management and politicized control.

JohnK
JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

And remember that the vast majority of people do not really understand the bureaucratic structure of “The NHS”, how it’s managed, and so on. Some of us who have been “experienced patients” for one reason or another have a better insight of it, but most do not. For most, it’s just another brand name.

caipirinha17
caipirinha17
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

There needs to be more detail and transparency on the number of NCS workers and In which groups the unjabbed actually are – the NCS is indeed huge but frontline doctors and nurses in hospitals form a relatively small proportion. What about the ancillary workers, admin and clerical, those working in supplementary services? Agency workers? What about GPs, whose practices are essentially private businesses?

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  caipirinha17

NCS?

CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I assume ‘National Covid Service’

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

The “weaponsing” of the NHS may prove to be the biggest mistake of those trying to force us into the ‘Great Reset’ dystopia.

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Absolutely.

Bobby Lobster
Bobby Lobster
4 years ago

Not a full u-turn, but partial. Eventually they will have to pull it! Then, why is everyone else still being pushed into accepting dangerous, useless, gunk?

Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Bobby Lobster

It’s just another 6 months for SAGE to have them dangling on a string, another 6 months of psychological torture, with no-one knowing if they’ll have a job by October or not.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Many will take their chance and walk anyway after this.

I have a relative who having decided not to have the jab was coerced to take it with threats of “no future” in her “Health” related company.

After the jab, she was ill with very bad side effects and regretted her decision and then found she was also pregnant – we have been very concerned for a year .

The baby seems to be fine – but she is not and has not fully recovered since the birth and has had infections and now has heart pains.

The GPs are slow to respond – weeks of waiting for just an X-Ray yet to happen – and prescribe antibiotics for raised white blood cell count to fight an unspecified ‘infection’.

Obviously we are now worried about possible pericarditis. In the meantime her employer has told her she is ‘required’ to have a second jab – more coercion. .

If this persists ,she will be forced to give up her job for her health.

Johnson’s “New Britain” 2022

CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

This government are utter scum .

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