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Aeroplane Turns Around Mid-Flight Because a Passenger Refused to Wear a Mask

by Will Jones
21 January 2022 7:30 PM

An aeroplane travelling from Miami to London turned back because a passenger refused to wear a face mask, the airline has said. The BBC has more.

American Airlines said flight AAL38 with 129 passengers on board returned to Miami where police were waiting.

They escorted a woman in her 40s off the plane, reports say.

She has been placed on a list of people barred from flying with American Airlines, pending further investigation, the airline said.

The Wednesday flight turned around about an hour into its journey, according to tracking service FlightAware.

The woman was sitting in first class, another passenger Steve Freeman told Miami’s Local 10 news. …

Passengers on the flight to London’s Heathrow Airport were re-booked on to another flight for Thursday. …

“They wouldn’t really say anything, and I don’t believe they told the flight attendants anything either, because they said that all they could say was there was an extreme incident with a passenger and they had to turn around,” [a passenger] told the station.

Airlines reported nearly 6,000 incidents involving unruly passengers last year and 151 in the first two weeks of this year, according to the Federal Aviation Administration. Most of them involved passengers who refused to wear masks.

New Unruly Passenger Numbers since 1/1/22:
– 151 reports of unruly passengers
– 92 related to facemasks
– 32 investigations initiated
– 4 enforcement action cases initiated
Unruly Passenger Rate as of 1/9/22: 4.4 incidents per 10K flightshttps://t.co/ISiblzAzGi #FlySmart pic.twitter.com/UbF5UIqdcp

— The FAA ✈️ (@FAANews) January 19, 2022

What a ridiculous waste of fuel, time and money over something so pointless.

Worth reading in full.

Tags: Air TravelFace MasksMask Mandates

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago

Roundup item 1. UK Health Security Agency (who they?) Canvassing Local Authorities about implementing Plan B.
Passing the buck again, trying to blame local government for new lockdown measures. They tried that a year ago but Andy Burnham kicked up enough stink for it to fail.

Everybody knew it was Central government wot stole Xmas.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

join the peaceful resistance …..

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Norman
Norman
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

It was in the Observer, so take it with a healthy pinch of salt.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I’ve just written to my MP, making no argument, but simply asking if she will support ‘Vaccine Passports’ if it comes to a vote in the Commons. Just a Yes/No.

I suggest everyone does this, with a follow-up depending on the answer (if you get one).

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago

Rishi Sunak to spend billions to digitise NHS.

He needs to fix the last lot first.

Earlier this year the NHS rolled out its multi billion Mycare digital information portal. It is far from perfect. After 9 months I have been unable to get them to name my GP correctly and it took ages for it to update changes to my regular medication.
Earlier this year the whole system was down for several days with repeated phone calls getting the message ‘unable to answer your call because of staff training’.
After chasing one particular technical query a health care professional quipped ” ‘Mycare’ is not very user friendly”.

Being entirely digital it cannot be accessed within the Main Regional Hospital which is an internet not-space so it’s advisable to take screenshots before entry.

Last, but not least, yesterday I got the traditional letter telling me about a cancelled appointment the day after the appointment itself. Nothing changes.

The software that runs Mycare is called Epic which, as I warned in February, was begging for a fail.

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

“Epic.” Brings to mind sublime poetry, great journeys, heroic deeds.
It’s a software program that doesn’t work.

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PhilButton
PhilButton
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Our GP surgery had a new phone system installed recently. Patients were unable to get through for ten days, according to a story in the Biggleswade Chronicle.
The envy of the world?

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John
John
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

A few years ago they tried to bring all NHS records into one national database. This was a massive failure as not all trusts use the same system, different systems are used within trusts, primary care uses at least two different systems, one of which can definitely have added on functionality, not sure about the other. Because these are all proprietary they are not designed to communicate with other systems, to enable this to happen another layer of new bespoke software was required. The timescales were far too short for this to ever work at the cost of billions.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  John

Yes. It was a massive cock-up. IT projects often are (private and public) – with the added factor of the complexity here. You have a deadly combination of ignorant management (often seeking immediate savings) and nerds who haven’t nailed the practical issues. They don’t understand each other.

That said – a few years on, the communication between various arms of the Trust that serves me has been massively improved by a working system.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Private sector ones have a far lower failure rate, because they are generally better at clearly specifying what they actually want, and the financial imperative means that they aren’t going to accept repeated over-runs, massive cost increases and something which doesn’t work properly at the end of it.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

The main problem stems from the ever increasing turnover of senior Whitehall staff each of whom seek to make their mark by making changes not caring how much money is being wasted because, by the time it comes to light, they will have moved on to somewhere completely different.

Also because such mandarins are increasingly young with less and less experience of how the world works

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John
John
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

In the old days when I first started as a systems engineer, government contracts were cost plus, there was no incentive to complete projects within timescales.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Less if the past tense please, the y are still ploughing ahead with it.

Search NHS Digital

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John
John
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Many years ago I worked for a systems company that won a prestigious contract to design a system for a nationalised company, in the end it was never completed because the contracting company kept moving the goalposts.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  John

They have been trying ever since before the start of Tony Blairs first government and still are.
John Prescott tried to cancel it but only as a photoshoot Bonfire of the Quangos.

He failed after it was pointed out that breast cancer screening would come to a halt and GPs would not get paid since those features, and others, were already embedded in the system.

At one time the head of the main Japanese software supplier (well known Corporate name that I can’t recall offhand) resigned saying it was never going to work because the Government were using a chestnut to crack an anvil or something like that.

It has existed under various names over the years, currently being known as NHS Digital which is fair enough.

Mycare is based on individusl patients interactions with NHS healthcare providers irrespective of what systems are already in use and so is much less ambitious.

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OliveTrees
OliveTrees
3 years ago

Is it me or is it always The Guardian that are first with these “must do something nowwwww!” stories. Twice in a row lockdowns were the headline story on their website, and now this “leak”. If you listen closely, you can almost hear heads exploding in Guardian offices.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  OliveTrees

It’s not you it’s the Guardian, and they will be first against the wall when the revolution comes.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  OliveTrees

Teachers around the country will be spending the weekend worrying about how to pronounce Respiratory Syncitial Virus to scare the children and each other on Monday.

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Dobba
Dobba
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Is it ‘Sink-ity-al’ or ‘Sin-city-al’ as I need to know how to pronounce it when I’m not giving a fuck.

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PhilButton
PhilButton
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

They’ve got a week to practice. It’s half term!

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Dobba
Dobba
3 years ago
Reply to  OliveTrees

. . . and it’s now in RED – DANGER!!!!! THE WORLD IS ABOUT TO END! This is the top of their site now at 12:49pm. Despicable rag.

Screenshot 2021-10-24 at 12.48.04.jpg
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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Dobba

“Chancellor rejects”
That’s a very brave decision Minister, as Sir Humphrey would say .

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  OliveTrees

They are by no means the only member of the MSM which does this – but I agree they are one of the worst for it.

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago

The lockdowns here in NSW have been canned and the other NPIs (masks, distancing) are being phased out. By December 1 there will be no restrictions and no distinction between vaccinated and un-vaccinated (ie no ‘vaccine passports’). The new NSW Premier is basically Ron DeSantis. This has put pressure on the other states to follow, and even in Victoriastan, Dictator Dan Andrews has suddenly canned his world record holding lockdown (although he wants to keep vaccine passports – he’s the ultimate control freak).

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

I’m amazed. I’ve got the sense that vaccine certification bullshit is an inevitability everywhere. But keep being surprised as they are shelved in various places. As a former Australian resident I’ve been gobsmacked by the reports I’ve heard coming from over there. Maybe common sense is returning?

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Most of the awful stuff reported overseas as “in Australia” is actually “in Victoriastan”. It’s a bit like on-line friends overseas saying “are you OK?” when a giant typhoon in Australia gets reported on the international news. I say “Dude, that’s in northern Queensland, it’s over a thousand miles from me”

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

Got you. I lived in Perth and hear very little about covid lunacy in WA although I know there is some.

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I am probably in good company here saying that the whole response has been insane (except in Sweden, Florida and some other places). But there are levels of insanity.

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Phil Shannon
Phil Shannon
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

The lockdown mania does appear to be passing – in NSW and even, to some extent, in Victoria under the evil gnome – but plenty of Covid rubbish litters the place – from masks in many states to vaccine passports and No Jab No Job in others.

Daniel Andrews has vowed to keep unvaxxed Victorians cut off from society until “well and truly into 2022” and the state borders wil not be opened until vaxx rates hit at least 90%. With the support of the ‘Liberal’ opposition, his state Labor government has locked out politicians who refuse to hand over their vaccination information. Four members of the Legislative Council (the state’s Senate) are now unable to vote on any bills.

In WA, the McGowan Labor government has introduced No Jab No Job mandates which will affect 75% of the workforce including workers in supermarkets, pubs, restaurants, post offices, hardware stores, childcare, schools, bars, cafes, restaurants, bakeries, hardware stores, banks, petrol stations, public and commercial facilities, accommodation and construction. Employers who do not comply, will cop a 100,000 fines while employees face a $20,000 hit. In the event of future lockdowns, this group will be expanded to workers in bottle shops, newsagents, pet stores, wholesalers, critical conveyancing agents, government or local government services, vehicle, mechanical repair services, roadside assistance, forestry, primary industries, factories, manufacturing, fabrication and production, media, and members of Parliament and their staff.

Meanwhile, the federal government is introducing booster shots in November for aged care and health care workers (and those who refuse will not be ‘fully vaccinated’ and thus denied employment), with a population rollout for the whole population by the end of the year.
It’s one halting step forward (less lockown) and two back (The Jab and its Passport) for most Australian authorities at the moment.

Phil
Adelaide

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Gregoryno6
Gregoryno6
3 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

And then there’s Canberra’s plan for a digital identity system. They’ve pushed it as far as they can before making it public. Phase 3 closes 5pm next Wednesday and if you haven’t told them you’re out by then, you’re in.
The good news is that a lot of us have been in touch to tell ScoMo where he can shove his digital identity system.
Fucking bastards have basically used the state government’s covid BS to keep our attention off this scheme. The vaccination that distracts a nation.
For such evil shits as this, hell cannot be too hot.

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Gregoryno6
Gregoryno6
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Hello from Perth! Are you sure you want to know about covid lunacy in WA?
Here goes…
https://gregoryno6.wordpress.com/2021/10/21/theres-a-story-behind-last-nights-meme/

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

During the 1970s and 80s I met three of my Australian cousins (NSW, grandchildren of £10 Poms) as they each in turn did the ‘visit the old country’ thing aged about 20.
They all exhibited the get on and do it individual attitude that we expect from Australians, each of them finding jobs here and excuses to extend their stay before returning home.

I remember spending an afternoon in scrapyards looking for a carburetor for the old banger one of them bought, followed by an evening exploring his notion that ‘are all whiskies the same, like bourbon?’.

I find it hard to believe that they have fallen for all the BS.

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OliveTrees
OliveTrees
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

Good to hear. Domestic vaccine passports are an awful idea, even if they sound nice and fluffy on paper. They should also scare the vaccinated, since it means the government have total say on what goes into your body at any time in the future. No Boswalox shot? No QR code.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  OliveTrees

But can I self certify a Boswalox exemption?

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OliveTrees
OliveTrees
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Sorry, no. There’s no exemption from Boswalox.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  OliveTrees

I’m a vegan?

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SallyM
SallyM
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

After November private businesses can continue to discriminate against the unvaccinated if they wish. This is on top of the numerous vaccine mandates in the workplace. NSW is nothing like Florida.

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago
Reply to  SallyM

Businesses still discriminate against the un-vaccinated in Florida through Federal and local government mandates. Hopefully DeSantis will win that battle.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

Which Federal mandates apply in Florida (apart from for Federal employees/Agencies)?

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

You said it. And local governments in some areas are mandating vaccinations, probably looking at bypassing the state government and getting support from the Feds. Leftists hate state government.

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Every one of them. However De Santis is trying very hard to counter most. But national chain shops/supermarkets insist on their staff being masked ( some offer masks at their entrance, offer not mandate). Some cities have masks as necessary to access public transport. Some upmarket restaurants/bars insist their staff are masked. All federal buildings insist on masks being worn by staff and public. The federal/media indoctrination is incessant. Some counties, Orange, Broward, Miami-Dade have mask policies in schools.
Its much better than most european countries, but far from ‘normal’. Its patchy, some towns like Bradenton where we are , are almost normal, but just travel 10 miles south to Sarasota ( another ‘red’ city) and its more like Spain for instance.
Everywhere the population is about 40/40/20. 40% dependant on the state and will do as they are told; 40% the worried well, the people with cushy jobs happy to work from home; 20% resistant to the indoctrination.
A lot of Florida’s midddle 40% are OK with living semi-normal, but in some red areas as well as blue they act more like the same group in the UK for instance. These are generalisations, it depends on individual mentality and motivation.
For instance we are definitely in the last 20%, but 30 years ago with a heavy mortgage, working my way up the slippery pole career wise with 3 kids in school, I would be lying if I didn’t admit I would be in the middle 40%. And I am by nature a definite ‘non-conformist’.

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

I would add that vaccine mandates are non-existent in Florida as far as I can tell. As are certificates. But that is just inside Florida. International boundaries are determined by the Feds, and the real battle will be faught over the state boundary. Will Biden go for certificates for internal flights? Its unlikely he won’t try.
However , to date, he actually has not signed any executive orders about certificates, relying on the media to do his work for him. As soon as he does , De Santis and half a dozen other Governors have the legal challenges ready.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Thank you for that. I was aware of the three levels of government, Federal, State and County/City in the US but understood that Public Health was a States Rights issue. In the UK central government has the final say on almost all matters.

How national chain stores behave is their own business, although I believe there are some rights of access to utility outlets like food stores, but can a County/City overrule their State when it comes to mask/vaccine mandates or lack thereof?

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

They can overrule, but then face stiff penalties, fines that could bankrupt them. But its a fine line between punishing the county and its inhabitants. In 50% of Florida counties De Santis has this problem.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Where do the the large numbers of retirees in Florida sit on your 40/40/20 breakdown?

Some report here at DS that people in their area are still wearing masks outdoors but in my SW England city that is a rarity, at the moment. There is a public park at the end of my cul de sac street so perhaps the people passing by have more faith in fresh air for good health rather than lard arses sat at home watching Netflix and government propaganda.

National supermarkets ‘strongly advised’ their staff to wear masks shortly after their customers were supposedly mandated to do so but more and more of them claimed exemption well before the rules were relaxed.

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Average age in Florida is the same if slightly lower than UK. Its a myth that its full of retirees. There are a lot of snow birds on vacation from Feb-April from the frozen north, but a lot of these are actually workers and family on 2 week vacations.
The retirees will be spread across all the groups like everywhere else.

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SallyM
SallyM
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

I didn’t say that Florida was perfect. But life will almost certainly not be as good in NSW as you depict it. In particular there will be ongoing distinctions between vaccinated and unvaccinated.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

Are you really free? Really? If so, I’m so happy for you!

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kate
kate
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

“The lockdowns here in NSW have been canned and the other NPIs (masks, distancing) are being phased out. By December 1 there will be no restrictions and no distinction between vaccinated and un-vaccinated (ie no ‘vaccine passports’). The new NSW Premier is basically Ron DeSantis. This has put pressure on the other states to follow, and even in Victoriastan, Dictator Dan Andrews has suddenly canned his world record holding lockdown (although he wants to keep vaccine passports – he’s the ultimate control freak).”

“Lockdowns have been canned” It would seem only for fully injected.

“ Masks, distancing are being phased out” It would seem only for fully injected.

“By December 1there will be no restrictions and no distinction between vaccinated and unvaccinated (ie no ‘vaccine passports).”

December the 1st is 37 days away, we all know from experience that these people change the rules at the drop of a hat, so it is nothing like Florida and it is discrimination of the people who have decided not to be poisoned.

In case anyone believes that anything or everything is normal in NSW here is the rules from the government of NSW website.

https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/stay-safe/rules/not-fully-vaccinated

You have to give them their due how they play with words “not fully vaccinated”

I am genuinely interested in what is happening around the world and I expect misinformation from mainstream media but I don’t expect supposed sceptics to misinform because that is what this person is doing as the rules for the people who do not get poisoned are NOT being allowed to participate in society today and are in the same position the French are in.

As I said December 1st is over a month away and everything can change.

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Amtrup
Amtrup
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

Thank you for providing the real/correct information!

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caipirinha17
caipirinha17
3 years ago

I’m sorry if this sounds uncharitable but I think we’ve reached a point whereby the only thing that will convince the coviet union members of the errors of their beliefs is something catastrophic involving the jabbed and the mask devotees. I sort of wish it’d hurry up, I’m tired of Sage and Spi-B and two faced politicians.
Also, as far as I can tell, the vast majority of public sector workers actually believe the BS they’re fed all day at work, and their employers are using them to spread the fear since they’ll be considered semi-experts by their family and friends.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  caipirinha17

It’s tempting in a schadenfreude type way isn’t it. But may be the only thing that can save the 14% of us who are capable of critical thinking…

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Is Faith, Hope, and Charity.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

If anything disastrous happens to the jabbed it might include my nearest and dearest. Sorry but, no way can I share that cold-bloodedness

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FrankFisher
FrankFisher
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

In what way is it cold blooded? Either people wake the fuck up, or the world is doomed to a new and permanent Dark Ages.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  caipirinha17

Not uncharitable at all, see my reply on DS item 23/11 about masks in school (comment #3 below article)..

It points to a hugotalks video (link provided by another reader) in which children at a school with 1,250 pupils have been wearing masks for two weeks. 30 are at home for testing positive but, this part ignored by sky news interviewer, a further 14 are off sick with negative side effects from the vaccine (vaccine uptake just 30% btw).

I remember being a stroppy schoolboy and hometime chat/Monday morning rumour mill would be far more about the deadly side effects of so called ”vaccine” rather than using an iffy flu to bunk off school.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  caipirinha17

I know what you mean and agree. Itś like wishing ill on someone but, as you say, something drastic has to give because the failure of the jabs is just being used to embark on 2020 The Sequel, as far as a second winter goes, and theyĺl never admit outright that the precious injections have not lived up to expectations. People like Shirley in the video above have gotten wise and I hope thatś an indication that others are also waking up to the reality that this has nothing to do with a virus, thereś another agenda going on, and they´ve been played. Maybe an ´awakening´ may happen by a sufficiently large amount of people to make non-compliance with any further restrictions impactful and send a message to the government that they are done with being manipulated. Hopefully any further restrictions will be the straw that breaks the camelś back!

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago

“Calls for more restrictions are all too often based on a flawed understanding of what is really happening,” says so-and-so in the something-newspaper.

The man doth protest too little, methinks.

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago

Remember those odd days when you fancied hopping work because you felt rough, perhaps from a hangover? It was awkward. You had to make that phone call in to work and speak to someone, maybe even the boss or a supervisor. Your voice would sound phoney because you’d overdo it despite practising the blag. Then once the call was over you couldn’t really relax because you knew you’d probably get looks the next work day. It was torture

Anyway, I believe my blag went something like, ‘I think I’m coming down with something. It could be the flu or a 48 hour thing.’ You’d almost invariably get an attitude of disbelief on the other end of the line.

Well, nowadays the likelihood is they’d be struck dumb with terror, you’d be told to stay away for at least ten days, they’d do their best to keep you away from the gaff for as long as possible, and you’d be on full pay.

I wonder how many herberts have taken advantage of the mass hysteria in this fashion.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Moderate Radical

The opposite being the insufferable idiots who make martyrs of themselves by coming into work coughing and spluttering their germs over everyone else.
What have they been doing these past 18 months?

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

This must be living hell for those people!

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago
Reply to  Moderate Radical

Awesome. There is a silver lining!

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago

Off-Guardian makes a point that re-defining “fully vaccinated” to mean “double-jabbed plus booster” is a way authorities can reduce the numbers of deaths and hospitalizations attributed to the vaccinated, making the vaccines appear more effective than they are.

https://off-guardian.org/2021/10/23/cdc-director-we-may-need-to-update-our-definition-of-fully-vaccinated/

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

I’m double jabbed and have to renew my QR code passport monthly. I’m waiting to see if declining to be boosted results in them disabling that renewal.

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FrankFisher
FrankFisher
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

They are also – here and in the US, routinely calling deaths, AEs and infections within 14 days of a jab impacts on the unvaccinated, because they do not define vaccinated until J+14 days.

Hundreds of thousands of people are involved in this conspiracy.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago

From the Roundup, Matthew Crawford in UnHerd talks about ‘The New Public Health Despotism’ and questions why he goes along with it all, mask wearing in particular, when he knows it is all pointless at best.
He seems to conclude that it is through fear of public condemnation.

The othe day I was watching Michael Palins travelogue Pole to Pole; in episode 3 he is in Leningrad trying to buy some vodka. Someone explains that first he must obtain a ‘kiewpon’ from the Casa Kiosk (I had witnessed similar in restaurants in Kiev and Odessa a decade previously).
Fortunately for Michael a passerby sells him a coupon (in the way that someone might illegally pass you a parking permit with some time left on) and nobody else batted an eyelid.

This might seem like a minor transgression but it actually struck at the heart of the Soviet system in which full employment was achieved by having three people to do one persons job.
Clearly a sign that the Soviet Union was on its last legs, nobody cared anymore; by the time Michael reached Turkey Mr. Gorbachev was being kidnapped in Crimea and the rest is history.

Last edited 3 years ago by karenovirus
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PhilButton
PhilButton
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Ever tried getting an appointment to see a GP? Vodka in Leningrad circa 1990 sounds easy by comparison!

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago

‘Austria considers lockdown . . . for unjabbed only’ Daily Mail
Large number of intelligent sceptic comments by readers who clearly get their information from sources other than the MSM.
As usual overwhelmingly hostile to the idea, I read through sixty ‘newest comments’ before coming across a supportive one (greatly ‘disliked’).
Several used the words House Arrest but none went on to say that no (uncorrupted) Court would allow that to stand.

The attached was clearly written as irony, it’s very funny and I wasn’t sure whether to like or dislike it. AJmademedoit take a bow.

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

AJ= Alex Jones.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago

Hello

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isobar
isobar
3 years ago


Professor Stephen Powis, National Medical Director of NHS England sticks his oar in. Essentially it’s blackmail to ‘save Christmas’ by getting a booster. Getting a right roasting in the comments sections. Sorry that it’s behind a paywall but I believe that there are ways round it. 

Get the booster jab to save Christmas, Britons urged as country faces Covid ‘crunch point’
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/10/23/get-booster-jab-save-christmas-britons-urged-country-faces-covid/?WT.mc_id=e_DM1510730&WT.tsrc=email&etype=Edi_FAM_New_ES_Sun&utmsource=email&utm_medium=Edi_FAM_New_ES_Sun20211024&utm_campaign=DM1510730

Getting a booster jab is the key to ensuring we can all enjoy Christmas
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/10/23/getting-booster-jab-key-ensuring-can-enjoy-christmas/?WT.mc_id=e_DM1510730&WT.tsrc=email&etype=Edi_FAM_New_ES_Sun&utmsource=email&utm_medium=Edi_FAM_New_ES_Sun20211024&utm_campaign=DM1510730

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago

United Non Compliance.
The only answer to whatever they come up with.

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago

Dr. Starling’s and Will Jones piece are the must reads and shares of today!

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FrankFisher
FrankFisher
3 years ago

So, the vax passports timetable ticks on as it has always been planned to do, Dec 17th is the date I hears some time ago. Not ONE WORD we have been told in the past 20 months has been true. Twenty months of coordinated lies, a society halfway through being entirely reshaped, and 90% of the population dutifully obeying.

The only people I hate more than those imposing this on us (if indeed they are people) are those who comply without a second’s thought.

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HelzBelz
HelzBelz
3 years ago

Husband still refusing to discuss any of this creeping totalitarianism – because we end up arguing.

I say, if he won’t speak out against it (in which case there would be no dispute between us) then he must support it. His silence speaks of assent. But am I being unfair?

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
3 years ago
Reply to  HelzBelz

No.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  HelzBelz

The unfortunate reality is that it’s not possible to be ‘neutral’ on this issue now (if it ever was) – the Covidians have all the power and are using it, so anyone not objecting is in practice supporting it.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

How would you describe someone who ignores one way Pedestrian systems on the High Street, likewise the now discreet sanitizer stations in big stores and who used to take short cuts to avoid going all around the shop just to get to the counter but ostentatiously wears their mask and scowls at those who do not.

I see this all the time, it combines virtue signalling with contempt for the system in place, a bit like those who pretend to wash their hands after going to the loo.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  HelzBelz

I would not risk my relationship over Covid bollox if both of you are so certain of your positions. One day we will all look back and laugh about this.
Argue with a third party would be my advice.
(Other more qualified Agony Aunts are available).

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Victoria
Victoria
3 years ago

The COVID shots and the vaccine passports fit into the CCP agenda by making the whole world accept and adopt the CCP’s social control system

Vaccine Passports Will Usher in a Social Credit System


Of course, the COVID shots and the vaccine passports also fit into the CCP agenda by making the whole world accept and adopt the CCP’s social control system. The vaccine passports are clearly designed to usher in a social credit system like they have in China. And with that, you get 24/7 digital surveillance and an unbelievable amount of control over every single person.

As explained by Yan, in China, the digital surveillance system is so advanced, if your phone GPS shows you were near an infected person, you are automatically ordered into isolation.

What’s more, if parents or grandparents fail to get the COVID shot, the family’s children are barred from school, even if they got the shot. Every aspect of life is linked together through this system, so a poor social credit score will also have financial ramifications, and will dictate if, where and how you’re allowed to travel.

Yan points out that Americans, being unaware of the Chinese surveillance system, don’t understand that by agreeing with vaccine mandates and passports, they are saying yes to a total surveillance system that will dictate their entire lives. They’re also saying yes to being guinea pigs for an endless stream of questionable vaccines.

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/10/24/li-meng-yan-covid-origin.aspx

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Victoria
Victoria
3 years ago

If you take the covid vax, you can NEVER achieve full immunity again – government stats unveil the horrifying truth

The British government has spilled the beans about that fact that once you get “vaccinated” for the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19), you will never again be able to acquire full natural immunity.

In its Week 42 “COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report,” the U.K. Health Security Agency admitted on page 23 that “N antibody levels appear to be lower in people who acquire infection following two doses of vaccination.” It goes on to explain that this antibody drop is basically permanent.

“What’s this mean? Several things, all bad,” writes Alex Berenson. “We know the vaccines do not stop infection or transmission of the virus (in fact, the report shows elsewhere that vaccinated adults are now being infected at much HIGHER rates than the unvaccinated).”

“What the British are saying is they are now finding the vaccine interferes with your body’s innate ability after infection to produce antibodies against not just the spike protein but other pieces of the virus. Specifically, vaccinated people don’t seem to be producing antibodies to the nucleocapsid protein, the shell of the virus, which are a crucial part of the response in unvaccinated people.”

In the long term, people who take an “Operation Warp Speed” jab will be far more vulnerable to any mutations in the spike protein that might come along, even if they have already been infected and recovered once, or more than once.

The unvaccinated, meanwhile, will procure lasting, if not permanent, immunity to all strains of the alleged virus after being infected with it naturally even just once.

“It also means the virus is likely to select for mutations that go in exactly that direction, because those will essentially give it an enormous vulnerable population to infect,” Berenson further warns. “And it probably is still more evidence the vaccines may interfere with the development of robust long-term immunity post-infection.”

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-24-take-covid-vax-never-full-immunity-again.html
.
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/urgent-covid-vaccines-will-keep-you/comments

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kate
kate
3 years ago
Reply to  Victoria

Remember this interview?
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/dr-david-bauer-interview-francis-crick-institute-gvs-news-footage/1325046154

Why is Mr Bauer upset?

Here is the damage limitation piece.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/07/virologist-work-anti-vaxxers-covid

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Alkanet
Alkanet
3 years ago

Having a booster to save Christmas only applies to the already double jabbed, the unjabbed don’t need and aren’t eligible for a booster and intend to have Christmas as normal. The jabbistas would do well to remember that.

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Victoria
Victoria
3 years ago

Scotland’s NHS app shares data with companies including Amazon, Microsoft, ServiceNow, Royal Mail and an AI facial recognition firm.

I told you it would.

https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/status/1452185731204591619
Vaccination passport app shares personal data of users with Amazon and Royal Mail

Privacy information on the vaccination passport app reveals personal data of users will be shared with NetCompany, Service Now, Jumio, iProov, Albasoft, Amazon Web Services, CFH Docmail, Microsoft Azure, Gov.uk Notify Service and Royal Mail. It is claimed that not all of the firms can “access” the data, even though it is “shared”.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/vaccination-passport-app-shares-personal-25285887

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Victoria
Victoria
3 years ago

Video clip

Brevard County Florida school staff tied a mask to a nonverbal Down syndrome girl every day for 6 weeks.

Then they forgot to take it off before home time and that’s how her father found out. 

We have allowed puritan bullies far to much authority.

https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/status/1452015522405658633

The mask was tied around her head with nylon rope

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Victoria
Victoria
3 years ago

Boris Johnson has run up more debt losing the war on coronavirus than we did defeating Adolf Hitler.

Britain needs to tell Bill Gates to mind his own damned business.

https://twitter.com/3milyhill/status/1451165032771956745

Green might be good but it’s a ruinous scandal that Boris lets his Silicon valley chums tell him how to spend billions of British taxpayers money

https://www.mailplus.co.uk/edition/comment/117471/green-might-be-good-but-its-a-ruinous-scandal-that-boris-lets-his-silicon-valley-chums-tell-him-how-to-spend-billions-of-british-taxpayers-money

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  Victoria

Just read a piece on the anti trust lawsuit against Microsoft and the Explorer search engine some circa 30 years ago; Gates’ behaviour then was essentially the same as the cartel billionaires in the US in the early 1900’s which caused the Sherman Act to reach the US statute. His current mindset and modus operandi clearly had its roots long ago.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
3 years ago

Like it or lump it, I think our only hope against future lockdowns, mandatory mask wearing, social distancing, etc is this present government
Having listened to the Labour shadow minister, don’t know her name because they all look and sound the same, parroting the same old,”same old” support of plan B (see “above”), on the Andrew Marr show this morning, I’m afraid that there is no alternative but to support the present administration.
This comment is from a man in his early 70’s who not so long ago would have rather cut his boll×cks off with a rusty hacksaw than go anywhere near anything conservative.

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AN other lockdown sceptic
AN other lockdown sceptic
3 years ago

This is well worth a listen. RFK Jr is a hero.

RFK Jr speaks to the Ron Paul Institute about totalitarianism and CIA operations including MK Ultra.

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/cia-and-totalitarianism-speech-to-ron-paul-institute/id1552000243?i=1000539443136

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