Over the last few months, many countries around the world have introduced vaccine passports and/or vaccine mandates. While some of these schemes are more accurately described as ‘immunity passports’ – since they recognise natural immunity from previous infection – many of them of do not.
In the U.S., there are already examples of healthcare workers with natural immunity being fired for refusing to comply with vaccine mandates. And this is despite the fact that natural immunity provides better immunity against infection than the vaccines.
Similarly, the UK’s vaccine mandate for care home workers does not include an exemption for those with natural immunity. Indeed, bioethicists at the University of Oxford have argued that it should include an exemption, on the grounds that natural immunity is at least as good as what the vaccines provide.
One potential counter-argument is that even natural immunity wanes, so those who’ve already been infected still stand to benefit from vaccination. However, this ignores the risks side of the equation. And while such risks might be low on average, they appear to be greater for young people – who face almost no risk from Covid to begin with.
What kind of risks are we talking about? First, there’s the ‘tail risk’ that the vaccines have serious long-term effects, which haven’t shown up in the data yet. Although this seems unlikely, it shouldn’t be dismissed entirely. Second, there are the rare but quantifiable side effects that we do know about.
The need to take account of both benefits and risks for those who’ve already been infected was summed up well by the vaccine scientist Christine Benn. (I found this quote in a BMJ article by Jennifer Block, which is definitely worth a read.)
If natural immunity is strongly protective, as the evidence to date suggests it is, then vaccinating people who have had covid-19 would seem to offer nothing or very little to benefit, logically leaving only harms—both the harms we already know about as well as those still unknown.
Of particular importance is the fact that ‘adverse events’ (i.e., side effects) appear to be more common in those who’ve already been infected. This has been found in at least half a dozen studies, based on data from several different countries. See here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here.
(I also found two studies reporting that adverse events were not more common in those who’ve already been infected. However, one of these studies had only two people with prior infection in the sample, so it doesn’t really tell us anything.)
Several of the studies that did report a difference simply compared the frequency of adverse events between those with and without prior infection. This leaves open the possibility that any difference is due to those with prior infection being younger.
However, some studies actually controlled for age and sex, and still found elevated rates of adverse events among those with prior infection.
Now, the vast majority of adverse events reported in these studies were mild or moderate – things like fatigue and flu-like illness. Yet one study found that severe side effects were more common among those with prior infection. Of course, this is just one study, so it shouldn’t be given too much credence.
A higher risk of fatigue or flu-like illness might not actually change the cost-benefit calculus for someone with prior infection who’s deciding whether to get vaccinated.
However, the evidence suggests that those who’ve already been infected not only face lower benefits from vaccination; they also face higher – or at least slightly higher – costs. (The cost-benefit ratio may be particularly unfavourable for young people who’ve already been infected.)
Vaccine passports and vaccine mandates are objectionable for a whole number of reasons. And when it comes to those who’ve already been infected – which will soon be most of us – there’s no case for them at all.
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The vaccinations they had been doing for decades and decades were tested first, had approval and the ingredients were known. This person is advocating using children as lab rats for an untested and experimental sequence gene therapy which is still in the trial phase until 2023.
for a disease that isn’t a danger to them unlike the others mentioned.
We need to fight this evil
This why we need to get protesting as much as possible before it’s too late
Next events:
5.30pm Tuesday 31st August
Roundabout (County Lane/Jigs Lane N)
Outside Tesco Superstore
17 County Ln,
Warfield,
Bracknell RG42 3JP
5.30pm Friday 3rd September
Loddon Bridge, (Winnersh Garden Centre/Showcase Cinema)
Reading Rd, Winnersh,
Wokingham RG41 5HG
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A criminal act? And did not this guy force through the drug Remdesivir as the “only” drug for US patients with Covid 19?
Please see this involving Reiner Fuellmich & co and Dr Bryan Ardis whose in law died as a result of being hospitalised with Covid 19 and was prescribed Remdesivir:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/KJYZyKTgWnw6/
Correction: Dr Ardis’s father in law was not prescribed Remdesivir but an anti biotic that induced major organ failure in a similar fashion where Covid 19 patients throughout the US were treated with Remdesivir; minute 5.00 – minute 15.00 but the detail given by Dr Ardis throughout is extremely chilling, horribly sad for the patients who suffered and their families who had to witness their relatives horrendous demise.
The fact that he revealed this well over a year ago, and it does not appear to have got further traction – Fauci’s involvement as he states further diminishes his reputation as if that is possible.
He must by a psychopath. He’s 80 – how much more money does he want? It must be the sense of power which is his reward now.
And he must be an atheist. No fear of judgement to come.
Cue Johnny Cash.
What an enormous, ring-stretching jumbo shit that guy is.
It is very important that we don’t lose track of reality, no.matter how often this type of madness is repeated.
What this man is advocating is pure evil.
This jab is not the MMR or polio vaccines. It is an experimental new technology that is being tested on the general population.
This must not become acceptable and normal.
As I wrote, he feeds on money.
Replace the word unfortunate with criminal, and the statement will be 100 times more accurate.
He doesn’t actually say what the vaccine mandate for children to attend school would achieve.
So why the push to inject children?
Hmm.
Genocide. No other logical explanation; if it was about digital currency and vaccine passports the jabs would be innocuous. This is designed to kill.
Plus, I cannot see why they’d think it important to extend “vaccine” “passports” to children, or that children are a beachhead in establishing a digital currency. Once they’ve captured all the adults, children would just have to “get with the programme”.
Yep. It’s more sinister than that. This is a bioweapon.
Or an attack on fertility, with the perpetrators barely concerned by “collateral damage”.
Two reasons. They know adults won’t use the ‘passport’ if their kids are excluded, so they all need one. Secondly, the kids are the booster victimes of the future, the vaccine passport holders of the future, they are playing a long game.
I think it is in order to instil in children that the State Knows Best and that they must always take their jabs without question. It is about control and comes at the same time as the WEF, with assorted other bodies also run by ex-Communists, implement The Great Reset. They are even perfectly happy to talk about what they aim to do. In my view Covid Passports, Covid and compulsory vaccination are all part of the jigsaw.
I agree, for example Italy will make you isolate for 10 days if you are unvaccinated, however if you are vaccinated in you go. This is even though they know that the vaccine does not prevent or stop transmission. So the only reason they are doing this is to punish the unvaccinated for disobedience, and as a lesson to all others who are thinking about disobeying. This more than anything tells you that this is nothing to do with a virus and everything to do with a world change in Governments mindset towards people,
Mario Draghi is the EU appointed new Mussolini of Italy,
That is what he wants, this about mystical authority and mindless obedience.
Why the push to inject anyone who chooses not to have it, because the Black death it aint. I wish someone would ask these politicians their logic and reasoning to inject every man woman and child with a product that does nto stop the infection, does not prevent its transmission, and as for the “it stops you being so ill” line. How do they know? It summer.
Its like the throwing bread on the train tracks to keep the lions away story.
Yes. Those carrying foetuses and children. They’re the big target, that’s clear.
They never say why they want to force it on everyone – as you say, there are no rational medical or public-health reasons, and other countries are doing fine without it.
So, naturally, people try to imagine reasons why they’re so keen to get this stuff into the entire population (including small kids). The least scary theory is that they ‘only’ want to get everyone tagged and traced with mandatory id. Other theories usually involve depopulation.
Before Covid, I could put my hand on my heart and say that there’s nobody I’d like to see taken out and shot. Even Blair.
Now there are so many candidates for whom it’s become my fondest wish.
I want them tried for crimes against humanity. As a civilisation we need to see these people found guilty and punished.
Hard labour, somewhere remote and either very cold or very hot. These days probably in the form of a livestream or Big Brother format as well, although I’d prefer to just throw the keys away instead.
Perpetual isolation in a ‘quarantine hotel’, with BBC news pumped in 24/7, can’t be turned off.
At their own expense.
Some of them are seriously sick in the head, they might enjoy that.
Blair, Bush, Hancock, Johnson, Obama, Fauci, Ferguson, Whitty, Vallance, Daszac the list grows by the day.
It’s going to be a bloody long queue.
Hasn’t that Lancet ‘study’ already been taken apart here? Well btl obviously.
Many parents don’t want their child to return to the brainwashing system anyway. Many I know are pulling together with other parents and means, to homeschool their kids now.
See my post below. I was already disillusioned by the box ticking dumbed down conformist unthinking bullshit that is modern education but this episode has pushed me over the edge. I think schools are toxic and wouldn’t lose any sleep if I had to pull my kids out of education.
He needs a fkin bllit
I’m a teacher in a secondary school which my child also attends. I have a very strong feeling that he will not be completing his education and that my days as a teacher are numbered. But before I go out, I will make sure that I’ve served notices of liability to the school leadership and the vaccinators that will no doubt shortly be in school. All of us need to take action, the time for complaining about the situation is over; they’re coming for the children.
Your child may get a better education away from school than in school.
Read the comments under the Mail article – hundreds of them, almost all pointing out how stupid the idea is and how evil Fauci is. We are not a small minority any more!
F*** off Fauci.
“We’ve done this for decades and decades, requiring polio, measles, mumps, rubella, hepatitis. So this would not be something new requiring vaccinations for children to come to school.”
For once Fauci tells the truth but let’s look at what diseases they are:
“No US federal vaccination laws exist, but all 50 states have laws requiring children attending public school to be vaccinated against diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis (generally in a DTaP vaccine); polio (an IPV vaccine); measles and rubella (generally in an MMR vaccine); and varicella (chickenpox). All 50 states allow medical exemptions, 44 states allow religious exemptions, and 15 states allow philosophical (or personal belief) exemptions. DC allows medical and religious exemptions.”
All of those diseases are known to be extremely dangerous for children. All of those vaccines have been proven over many years. Covid is known to be of no danger to children whatsoever except in a very small minority with other medical issues. Covid has passed pretend legislation in America and has not passed any medium to long term anywhere in the world with adults let alone children. The people taking it are the test subjects.
State Vaccination Exemptions for Children Entering Public Schools – Vaccines – ProCon.org
I disagree that chicken pox and rubella are dangerous to children. Even measles used to be accepted as a childhood disease you generally got through fine if you were cared for properly. The media have done an excellent job in persuading us otherwise since vaccination for them began, using fear of the of course real possibility of complications. We used to cope with infectious disease with less panic and had already learned that living conditions, hygiene and proper nursing were key.
According to my research, In the UK around 20 children per year die of Chicken Pox. So more than double that of Covvie.
Yet some people have “chicken pox parties” as they know herd immunity is a good thing, despite the tiny risk.
6 people p.a. die of Tetanus in Germany and they are all very old and fragile.
I am not saying it’s unnecessary, but it is clear from such figures that people have no idea of the real threat of diseases and none of the real benefit of vaccines anymore.
They have been grossly oversold.
Chicken pox can be dangerous to children, rare but it does happen, usually when the virus crosses the blood brain barrier causing encephalitis, also it can trigger shingles in adults.
The same is true of measles, it can cause encephalitis and death, Roald Dahl lost his young daughter to measles, which is why he campaigned for a measles vaccine.
Rubella is more likely to be benign in young children but if mum happens to be pregnant then there is an issue.
Mumps can cause sterility in adult males.
I caught measles and rubella when an infant, chicken pox when I was eight.
Of course in this country we don’t have compulsory vaccination to go to school.
Very good summary
I’m 61 and I had chicken pox at 18 months old and measles, mumps and scarlet fever as a small child. I had rubella as an 18 year old.
As a child I was given vaccinations against polio, TB and diphtheria. The MMR vaccine was not available then.
There are millions of my generation who had the diseases I had (and immune systems that are probably stronger as a result) and CV is likely to be far less of a problem to most children – if at all.
The risk to kids from this experimental “vaccine” is unknown and any possible benefit vs that entirely unknown risk, are not worth any consideration of them receiving it at all, in my opinion.
Another good summary
Rubella’s main danger is for pregnant women so i suppose there is sense in vaccinating children against it, although not necessarily the boys…
Except if someone they come into contact is pregnant.
Yep I had all those as a child (polio excepted of which I did have the vaccine thank goodness) no one even blinked an eye. In fact I had rubella twice (in those days it was known as German measles) everyone including me thought it a fairly minor childhood illness. Followed up chickenpox with shingles later on in my 30s even giving one of my friends chickenpox into the bargain. Again all brushed off as part of life’s rich. This though is a mere sparing partner in comparison and is certainly not the Black Death or Ebola. If it was I can assure you I’d be the first behind the settee.
Polio caused a massive epidemic in the US and U.K. in the mid 50’s. The last person who basically lived in an iron lung died only a few years ago.
We’ve been a small band of sceptics who have largely been ignored even by friends and family. The first death of a UK child who takes an untested vaccine will change everything. We can still stop the madness.
I hope you are right, BUT said death will be ‘due to comorbidities’ and the MSM will ignore it.
Millions of human beings have been crucified by the ‘authorities’.
Unlike Polio, Measles, Mumps and Rubella this virus isn’t dangerous to children.
And unlike the vaccines for the above, it hasn’t been properly tested and is still under trial to determine medium to long-term adverse effects (to go with the short-term ones we already know about).
What he is advocating is experimenting on children; coercing “vaccination” and is against the Nuremberg Code.
Pull your kids out of school rather than have them experimented on.
Rubella isn’t dangerous to children, but can cause birth defects if caught by a pregnant woman. If every girl were allowed to have the disease naturally, every mother would have natural immunity. When I had rubella I hardly noticed it. They still routinely vaccinated me aged 11 and no-one thought to ask why.
Polio was a killer disease as late as the 50s. But the first two attempts at vaccines were disasters, and just like with SARS2 the FDA were informed by good scientists/doctors that the vaccines were dangerous. Just like with SARS2 they ignored the advice and ploughed on. Two years later they had to stop as the vaccine victims appeared in ever growing numbers. People continued to die and get very ill years after the vaccinations stopped.
Fauci is evil, but he isn’t the first in this area, it attracts pyschopaths.
Good article on ZeroHedge on that yesterday.
The first polio vaccine was injected and did cause paralysis. In early 1960’s there was a trial of oral vaccine on a sugar lump in the uk. This caused less problems than the injection IIRC. This was how my polio vaccine was administered.
Me and a dozen of my cousins had both (some 2 years apart) with no problem.
Henry Kissinger: Paranoids have enemies too.
Man – is this serious? People actually listen to this corrupt sick fuck? For his track record of lies, see https://off-guardian.org/2020/10/27/anthony-fauci-40-years-of-lies-from-azt-to-remdesivir/ He and his corporate empire – the CDC – are the rotten core of pharma hold over the FDA, spreading its tentacles thru all govt and much academia etc. He is the face of how far humans have fallen. Someone please take him out.
Still, looking on the bright side, he makes Ferguson seem almost a normal, decent human being.
That’s the power of money
Hoe evil does Fauci have to get before someone sacks the monster?
Why should American parents pay taxes to fund a service they are then stopped from using?
I read he’s been in that job for 30 years. It’s his personal empire and an affront to democratic accountability. I assume his backers in the deep state even saw Trump off. The man is an evil modern Rasputin who needs to be escorted from the premises.
Flatulent windbag Trump did nothing about him.
A monster dressed up in sheep’s clothing. Step down sir, you are no longer fit for purpose.
If you just look at him here and at Trudeau giving his 1 billion vaxx passport help speech yesterday, you start to believe in the reptile story, or worse.
He is fit for the purpose of witch doctator.
It’s about time someone beat Fauci to death. The guy is pure evil. Every time I see his face I want him to suffer a painful death. I’ve never, ever been the person I have become when it comes to that little twat.
Fauci is clearly certifiable,
Another one who thinks he is ‘god like’, people like him never disappear for good they just come back with a different face..
It’s quite clear that the long march through the institutions has been completed. The UN, Western Governments, Civil Services, Education and all NGO’s are full of Marxist thinking.
The whole of New Zealand shut down for one case of Covid but crack on when someone actually dies from the vaccine.
Fauci paid the Chinese to undertake gain of function research on Covid viruses and now he is promoting vaccine apartheid.
When the Russians finally lost the Cold War the West let it’s guard down. We have made China what it is. We have allowed the far left to infiltrate every organ of the state and we are finally reaping what we sowed.
Good idea to exile Anthony Fauci to Michael Moore’s underpants.
“criticism is “just a reflection of the politicisation of what should be a purely public health issue and it’s really unfortunate”.”
Your own pronouncements are totalitarian, you loathsome bag of shite.
Another animal. He feds on money.
Nasty evil little tosser!
Well, if they did do that homeschooling would increase even more than it has already in the last two years. This isn’t helping with America’s polarisation problem!