There’s more today on the Government’s thoughts on forcing all NHS staff to be ‘fully vaccinated’ against Covid, with the Health Secretary believed to be keen to introduce legislation that would make vaccination a condition of employment “as soon as possible”. The Sunday Times has the story.
[Sajid Javid] believes the move would protect vulnerable patients from catching the virus in hospital, but health groups have warned that it could force trusts to fire staff or remove them from frontline duties. In England, 106,351 NHS staff have still not been vaccinated, about 7% of the total.
Javid is also preparing to roll out booster jabs to the under-50s after Christmas, although they have yet to be approved by experts on the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI).
The Health Secretary, who has set up a “war room” and is chairing daily meetings on the Covid crisis, has drawn up new measures to ease pressure on the NHS and curb surging Covid cases, which last week surpassed 50,000 in a day for the first time in three months. …
A source close to Javid claimed he has not ruled out another national lockdown. However, it is understood that [Boris] Johnson does not want any new Covid restrictions until after COP26, the climate change summit that begins in Glasgow next weekend. “No one wants to spook the horses,” said a source. …
Javid has refused to pause a requirement for care home staff to be fully vaccinated by November 11th, despite claims that it could lead to up to 100,000 of them quitting.
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Yet MPs are not mandated to be vaccinated. Do as I say, not as I do!
I have a friend who is a nurse in the NHS and who has natural immunity from recovering from covid. If mandates are enforced my friend will resign their job, If there are enough credible threats like this watch the NHS back track – just like the Chicago Police Dept and US Postal workers union.
I am not anti vax but believe it is a personal choice – especially if you already have natural immunity
So Savage Jabber is having daily meetings to discuss the ‘crisis’. What a waste of time. He’d be better off picking his nose while scratching his backside, or vv.
And he’s going to have yet another lump of taxpayers’ money, £5.9 Billion, to ‘help clear the backlog’ apparently. As the backlog can only be reduced by suddenly increasing the numbers of clinical staff to carry out the necessary diagnostic tests, diagnoses, clinical interventions and aftercare that’s going to be yet another £5.9B wasted and shovelled into the pockets of the existing staff, with the senior management trousering most of it.
Sajid Javid a man with no science education, well maybe high school biology, wants to mandate an experimental biological for healthcare workers more highly educated in the sciences than he is? No, I don’t h
think sl javid. But if you do, well expect your nhs to completely collapse. Those wonderful nhs workers you clapped for months will simply leave.
Javid should listen to his Boss. Johnson has admitted that the jabs don’t stop you getting or transmitting the virus. So jabbing Care Workers and NHS staff makes NO DIFFERENCE to people in their care.
Has Savage Jabber got around to finding out why the nurses are reluctant?
“Sajid Javid Wants to Introduce Legislation to Force All NHS Staff to Get Vaccinated against Covid “As Soon as Possible”
Of course he does, he needs to make sure that the NHS can’t cope and he deepens the manufactured crisis. No doubt hoping Xi Jinping will let him live and give him a nice job – he won’t.
What kind of moron would waste their valuable time down voting every single comment!
I can only assume this entity is vaccinated, so you’d be wise to spend the limited time you have left on this planet more wisely.
The type of moron who gives morons a bad name?
Forgive me for asking Minister but why do the protected need to be protected from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to use the protection that didn’t protect the protected in the first place?
I work in social care and have had to change jobs recently as the project I was employed in was registered as a care home with the CQC. I’m unvaccinated and will never accept this toxic poison even if I’m forced to give up my job.
Throughout this charade I’ve never worn a face nappy or used hand sanitizer. I got Covid symptoms in the summer when I was camping in a remote area. Didn’t have a test as it would have bee. two much of a faff to organise and had no mobile signal anyway. Felt fully recovered in less than a week. A recent antibody test has confirmed I’ve had covid at some point and now have antibodies so how exactly is a vaccine going to help. As I’m in the 60+ age group I’m also classed as vulnerable by our government and the even more irritating NHS despite sailing through Covid without even needing medical treatment or being left with residual symptoms. I’m absolutely sure the jab would cause a multitude of problems though.
Well done, a rational & logical appraisal of your situation, free from mental coercion into thinking govt approved thoughts.
The heroes of yesterday become the pariahs of today… D’you know, I never banged pots for the NHS last year, but I would bang some pots in support the the NHS staff that refuse vaccinations.
Pfizer’s Power
https://www.citizen.org/article/pfizers-power/#_ftn14
Bipartisan legislators demand answers from Fauci on ‘cruel’ puppy experiments
https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/medical-advances/578086-bipartisan-legislators-demand-answers-from-fauci
They spelt his name wrong, Dr Anthony Mengele Fauci!
Fauci needs to have his head locked in there instead wicked evil man!!
“However, it is understood that [Boris] Johnson does not want any new Covid restrictions until after COP26, the climate change summit that begins in Glasgow next weekend. “No one wants to spook the horses,” said a source. …”
I’ve been saying that this is why they’re holding off – good luck with trying to introduce restrictions after 30,000 have been allowed to have their restriction free jamboree in full sight of us all Johnson.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddu_ZxDkddM employers requiring vaccination as a term of employment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyMRmYe9DLU compulsory vaccination in general
This has to be another nail in the coffin for anybody who still thinks there’s a shred of decency or honesty in the government’s covid plans, and anyone who thought Javid would be an improvement on Hancock. It’s just relentless, all-out, evil war now. I can’t see any way back or out for the Cabinet. The only way we’ll be saved is by some kind of revolt following a massive over-reach of the abuse of power that wakes people up, but that would have to be really extreme and sadly the cunts are not that stupid.
The way out for the Tories is, I think, a palace coup as Mr Toad reaches the end of his
usefuluseless political life.The danger is the old, old one – a new face and a minor retreat, leaving Vax Passes in place. That includes the scenario of Starmer and fellow sell-outs being the new face one step further on.
Watch the space.
Possible – perhaps even more so as he has “let the cat out of the bag” about “vaccine” ineffectiveness. I wonder what his thick wife thinks, rhetorical a tad, mind you since her foray into health advice for pregnant women to take the “safe vaccines”, she might just parrot his confessional….I live in hope.
Anybody else notice how the other vaccines have been pushed aside by the Pfizer marketing machine. Pretty soon the word vaccine will be replaced by Pfizer, the words jab and shot will be replaced by Pfizer and eventually the letters NHS will be replaced by Pfizer
It’s already the National Pharma Service; stay away at all costs if you’re healthy.
The same acronym fits the new name.
Is the Daily Sceptic site turning into a shill site for the Tories? I have my concerns that it’s promoting this sh!t.
What makes you say that? TY seems a bit deluded that the wankers mean well, but I don’t think he’s any happier than you or I about coerced vaccination.
Let the staff quit their jobs in protest, I actually don’t give a flying fart. Let the chaos commence. While I don’t wish to see people suffer as a result, I’m afraid this is a war and it’s affecting all of us, healthy and sick alike. Vaccination is a medical intervention, as we all know, and coercing people to have it is evil….doesn’t matter whether they’re health workers or not, it’s still evil. I’m glad to hear and read that vaxed people are finally starting to stir from their slumbers and realise this is a bloody great scam for control.
“If it saves one life” was clearly just another sound bite. This plan will result in elderly dying, and by cutting nhs workers will guarantee that the nhs struggles this winter.
Everything, absolutely everything the government is doing is driven by its plan to mandate digital ID passports.
Enough is enough.
Just let me catch the fucking thing and die in peace. I’m sick near to death with all the bollocks.
Time to Think: The Basic Data says It All – Simplified and Clear! Ivor Cummins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3odjlEn8qXY
Again I find it interesting that they’re attacking the already vaccinated. Actually in a positive way. Do many i know who are double jabbed will not come forward for another. Realise they’ve been duped
A two-pronged attack. Jeopardising the lives of those who get jabbed while creating mass staff shortages from those who refuse and therefore jeopardising the lives of the general public.
As predicted, they’re setting up a winter of absolute chaos, misery and death. Yet you’ll still hear/read people saying the whole thing is a cock-up.
Yes – Libertarian Boris should have held his nerve against SAGE bedwetters etc etc etc 🙄
‘Boris’??? You mean that twat Johnson?
He’s never found any principles or nerve to stick to.
‘Libertarian’ Bozo : there you are, fixed!
They wouldnt have time to get it in before winter. They’ll need lead in of at least 4-6 months to cover consultation prior to dismissal and notice periods. If the NHS sank during flu season (Jan-Mar), the govt would be in serious trouble. There’s also the ‘temporary legislation’ timescale to consider re Coronavirus Act ie expires just after Easter 2022. If there’s an impending NHS staffing crisis at that point, it’s guaranteed they’ll be able to force another extension.
S.45D of the Public Health Act 1984 expressly forbids the government from introducing mandatory jabs.
This is PRIMARY legislation.
Our Health Secretary has already mandated jabs for care home workers, and now NHS workers…….but has done this by SECONDARY legislation i.e. ministerial decree.
Secondary legislation cannot override primary……..so what is going on?
Mandatory jabs needs to be debated properly – this is why the Coronavirus Act should go.
MPs need to do their jobs.
On the positive side it makes prosecuting them for crimes against humanity so much easier
Do stop fantasizing. This is not 1945, and the whole of Europe is ‘under occupation’. There will be no Nuremberg Trials, and no ‘crimes against humanity’ charges.
The best hope is nitty-gritty challenges under existing legislation.
I see where your confusion is there. You’re still thinking we live in a democracy, aren’t ya? Rule of law & all that stuff!
Oh the nostalgia, anyone remember “two weeks to flatten the curve” the good old days.
I was under the impression that
The common law (right to bodily autonomy)
and the Human Rights Act 1998
also protected us against this tyranny.
Trying to force it on people counts as coercion which I think is a civil offence if it’s mild, a crime if it gets more severe.
Never before have we needed expert lawyers so much. I apologise for laughing at so many lawyer jokes over the years …
Have a look at the mechanisms that have been created to make the mandatory jab thing happen. It’s actually the care homes that are required to police the policy and via changes to CQC inspection procedures care homes can be closed if they don’t do enough to ensure their workforce is jabbed and adequate records of this kept. Therefore the care home is essentially required to balance the ongoing employment of a small number of individuals and the risks associated with dismissing them against making XX elderly and vulnerable people homeless. It is absolutely diabolical and totally spineless, no doubt designed to ensure the care homes shoulder the liability instead of the govt (or any individual member thereof). Also circumvents the HRA and other legislation that prevents mandatory jabbing.
I agree with your interpretation, jingleballix. Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984 says Sec of State cannot make provisions requiring someone to undergo medical treatment including vaccines and prophylaxes. The Sec of State has made provisions requiring persons to undergo medical treatment in order to enter certain premises (care homes. It is a provision, it was made by the Sec of State, it involves requiring and it involves medical treatment. Ergo it is unlawful.
Just because the Regs are worded in the negative “secure that someone doesn’t enter the premises unless (they are vaccinated),” doesn’t meant that it’s not the exact same thing as “requiring that someone be vaccinated in order to enter the premises”. It’s just weasel negative wording but the net effect is the same.
The Health Secretary has set up a war room? We are indeed at war. The real battle is a spiritual one.
And the war is against ordinary people.
So I’m ****ed then. No chance of another job at 63, no pension till 66. What happens to these people given a little power?
You could try going off with stress and eventual retirement on ill health grounds.
Johnson said on Friday that double vaccination:
“…doesn’t protect you against catching the disease and doesn’t protect you from passing it on”
He was trying to persuade people to have the third dose but as Neil Oliver points out there is no scientific reason why this would make any difference. In point of fact the vaccines were never expected to protect against infection as the editor of the BMJ let on in August 2020:
“So instead we are heading for vaccines that reduce severity of illness rather than protect against infection, provide only short lived immunity, and will at best have been trialled by the manufacturer against placebo. As well as damaging public confidence and wasting global resources by distributing a poorly effective vaccine, this could change what we understand a vaccine to be. Instead of long term, effective disease prevention it could become a suboptimal chronic treatment. This would be good for business but bad for global public health.”
This is a criminal heist.
As not a single person has been vaccinated to date Jabids plan is a bit of a tall order