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Government’s ‘Winter Plan’ Is Packed with ‘Nudges’ and Will “Confuse People into Compliance”, Says Laura Dodsworth

by Michael Curzon
4 October 2021 2:31 PM

Laura Dodsworth, author of A State of Fear, has written a good piece for her new Substack account in which she argues that while the Government’s ‘Winter Plan’ contains some welcome news, it is also packed with ‘nudges’ that – alongside the constant threat of another lockdown – are bound to “confuse people into compliance”. Here is an extract.

The contents are freighted with the sunk cost fallacy; we’ve come so far, we mustn’t allow our good work to be undone. This also taps into people’s innate sensitivity to loss.

The trigger from ‘Plan A’ to ‘Plan B’ will be “unsustainable pressure” on the NHS rather than deaths. It’s under serious pressure every winter so consider yourselves to be put on notice. …

There are no quantifiable measures for what justifies each step from Plan A to Plan B. The parameters are fluid, unspecified. This creates confusion and stress, which infantilises people and makes them look to the Government for direction. Essentially, confusion increases compliance.

The threat of lockdown hangs like a Sword of Damocles. Will we, or won’t we? It seems unlikely that the public and businesses could be persuaded again. Regardless, the threat of lockdown might be leveraged to justify the introduction of Covid Passports, in what is known as a “reciprocation nudge” – we appear to be given a concession in return for reduced resistance to another option.

Covid Passports have been vigorously opposed by MPs and civil liberties groups, and there hasn’t been a vote in Parliament yet. Despite this, they squat in Plan B as a fait accompli, in the denouement of the ‘door in the face’ technique. This is when a huge request is made, then refused, to be followed by a second smaller request, in this case relegation to Plan B and for limited venues only. Boris Johnson said that it’s “not sensible to rule out this kind of option now when it might still make the difference between keeping businesses open or not”. But why would it be sensible when the Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee produced a damning report against them and found the Government could make no scientific case in their favour?

Covid Passports appear to be a behavioural science tool, used to increase vaccine uptake. This may backfire. ‘A Cross-Sectional Study in the UK and Israel on Willingness to Get Vaccinated against Covid’ found that vaccine passports deter a significant minority of people who want autonomy over their bodies. This also chimes with the research conducted by De Figueiredo and colleagues at the Vaccine Confidence Project. The bullying and resultant mistrust may impact Covid vaccine uptake as well as other public health initiatives.

Worth reading in full – and it’s worth subscribing to Laura’s new Substack account here.

Tags: Laura DodsworthPlan APlan BWinter

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago

“There are no quantifiable measures for what justifies each step from Plan A to Plan B. The parameters are fluid, unspecified. This creates confusion and stress, which infantilises people and makes them look to the government for direction. Essentially, confusion increases compliance.”

This should help people to understand a lot of the nonsense from the regime and its collaborators and enablers over the past year and a half.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Since when has the Government had the right to give us a”winter Plan”.

Great Reset leaders ADMIT your ‘way of life’ doesn’t matter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAgytRLrt4E

Saturday 16th October
MEGA Hold the Line Stand by the Road event 
– followed by walk to the Town Centre
Combined Berks/Bucks/Oxon/Surrey/Hants 
Bring your Yellow Boards and other banners – 
Stafferton Way Maidenhead SL6 1AY

Saturday 30th October 2pm 
SPECIAL STAND IN THE PARK WINDSOR
Alexander Park (near Bandstand) Stand in the Park
Barry Rd/Goswell Rd 
Windsor SL4 1QY
Stand in the Park 2pm followed by walk to 
Stand in the Town Centre around 3pm
About 2 hours in total.

Stand in the Park Make friends – keep sane – talk freedom and have a laugh

Wokingham Howard Palmer Gardens RG40 2BX Sundays10am
behind the Cockpit Path car park in the centre of the town 

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Sundays 10am & Wednesdays 2pm  
Join our Telegram group http://t.me/astandintheparkbracknell

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Join our Telegram group https://t.me/standindparkreading

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MizakeTheMizan
MizakeTheMizan
3 years ago

Anybody that is not in “Team James” at this point isn’t taking notice. The direction of travel has been relentless and continues to be.

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LovelyGirl
LovelyGirl
3 years ago

Door in the face? Isn’t it foot in the door? I mean, it all feels like the former, but I’m not sure that’s what’s meant?

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LovelyGirl
LovelyGirl
3 years ago
Reply to  LovelyGirl

Can’t see how to delete my comment, but from reading the whole article I see she did mean it as she said ☺️.

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NonCompliant
NonCompliant
3 years ago

Had a Covid antibody test recently. I chatted to the nurse who took the blood sample, explained I was unvaxxed and wanted the test for official record as it may have some use in the future. She asked what I’d do when they brought in the VAX passport. Before I replied she answered her own question “will you just not bother going to these places?”

BINGO

I tested positive BTW lol. High fevers and a few aches & pains was as bad as it got. On the mend within a week, all fine and dandy after 2 ! My wife didn’t have a near death experience either, just a longer recovery, ie 2-3 weeks.

A double jabbed friend was ‘saved’ by the vaccine, he had a much harder time of it. I think this jab is a total dud for the under 50’s.

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SJR
SJR
3 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

It knocked me for six for a couple of weeks – haywire sense of taste and loss of smell, debilitating cough, fever, cold sweats, loss of appetite, exhaustion, but I survived it and a few weeks later nearly back to normal apart from an occasional cough. But I am in my mid fifties, so not exactly young.
I think the AZ jab may actually be at least partially effective as my double jabbed wife didn’t get it at all (and she would be classed as vulnerable), and my AZ jabbed 26 year old son had a cough for a week or so.
The risk/benefit for the Phizer jab seems on more dodgy grounds, as it seems to cause far more problems for younger people

My 20 year old student daughter had one dose if Pfizer several months ago and it didn’t protect her at all. She caught covid just before she was due the second dose and it hit her harder than me. She almost ended up in hospital, but we brought her home to recover once her isolation period had ended.

I’ve done a home antibody test and I’m just waiting for the results. I too want to prove I’ve had this bug and have the antibodies to prove I have natural immunity.

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NonCompliant
NonCompliant
3 years ago
Reply to  SJR

I forgot to add we were on a vitamin regimen for the whole duration, ie

C
D
A
Selenium
Zinc
Quercetin

We still can’t smell anything but our taste seems good and dandy now.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

My sense of smell took two boring weeks to come back.

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SJR
SJR
3 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

I’m on a regular course of Berocca multivitamins, plus 4000mg Vitamin D, so undoubtedly that helped.
My sense of taste is now back to normal – it was really weird that I didn’t lose it but it went haywire, with sweet stuff tasting sickly sweet with an aftertaste like saccharin, and savoury stuff tasting salty. My smell is just coming back, just not as strong as before so far.

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JASA
JASA
3 years ago
Reply to  SJR

High dose Vit D is crucial, but 4000mg? That is 4g. It is 4000IU or 100mcg.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  JASA

I read you can’t overdose on it and when I came down with the covids I took a similarly ridiculous amount diluted in water. Practically undrinkable! But I was scarcely even ill, bit weak and achy but that was it.

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JASA
JASA
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Indeed, but 4000mg is 160,000,000IU.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  JASA

Indeed – it must be 4,000 iu, not mg!

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  SJR

“I think the AZ jab may actually be at least partially effective as my double jabbed wife didn’t get it at all“

But most in the same household don’t get infected, The estimated proportion of those who do varies between 11% and ~19%.

Now well established as a finding

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SJR
SJR
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

That’s interesting. You’d think that it’d be almost certain others would get infected in the same family given they’re in close proximity.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  SJR

Yes – sorry that I haven’t a quick reference to hand. Perhaps someone else can nail it.

But it’s another example of the exaggeration of risk – although a finding that is not surprising, given the behaviour of most respiratory viruses interacting with the usual variables of immunity and environment.

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gone_loopy
gone_loopy
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I’ve had flu 3 times in the last 25years, my wife has never caught it in that time.

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Skeptical_Stu
Skeptical_Stu
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I have long understood that the transmission rate for the family home was 15% (approx). I did get that off our trusty news media though. For some the reason it’s one figure they parroted out that stuck.

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Dame Lynet
Dame Lynet
3 years ago
Reply to  SJR

Daughter supposedly had it in the summer (fever, cough, taste and smell completely went).

Neither unjabbed me and son, nor jabbed hubby had so much as a sniffle, despite me doing the usual caring and the deliberate no-glove emptying of a bin she had vomited in.

I recall from somewhere household transmission being said to be 9-11%, but whatever it is it doesn’t appear that easy to catch.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Dame Lynet

Yes the claim that getting jabbed lowers transmission is another of the relative risks based on small sample-size scams where when you look at the number you realise just how random and thus un-meaningful it is.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  SJR

Not so. I had it, made no effort whatsoever to isolate from family (what a caring dad!) and no one else got it.

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Made me chuckle! At least your children will be toughened up for life in the big bad world!

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  BurlingtonBertie

We’re from Yorkshire. I think that should explain it.

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Mike Yeadon
Mike Yeadon
3 years ago
Reply to  SJR

Prior cross-immunity is so commonplace that it’s rare to have multiple family members go down with the same viral pathogen.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

The simple fact that catching SARS2 gives vastly more protection than the clot shots yet is totally ignored by the internal-passport pushers shows that it’s totally about social credit , not about health.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Random observation coincides with the evidence – there is little correlation between the vaccine and infection or severity of illness. It’s simply irrelevant.

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debra
debra
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

My MP kindly told me that factoring in natural immunity would be “too problematic “ 😏🤦🏼‍♀️

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  debra

for their bank account no doubt.

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago
Reply to  debra

Yep. That’s how it works. Measuring what’s important is difficult so find something that’s easy to measure and insist that it is important.

It’s what the police do, and it’s worked well for them for a long long time, even if a little bit of shit has hit the fan recently. They were pioneers but it is now a very fashionable technique.

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SimCS
SimCS
3 years ago
Reply to  debra

With such reasoning powers as that, how did he become an MP?

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  debra

man, all this computer technology and they still just can’t manage it…..beggars belief – how stupid do they think people are???

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bOrgkilLaH1of7
bOrgkilLaH1of7
3 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

Indeed NC for most after just a few months the jib-jab efficacy simply plummets – hence the looming “mandatory” top-ups.
As to the long term effects of these gene therapy vaccines?  Increasingly as the grim details leach out the MSM will not be able to keep the numbers affected  buried… this quickly becomes terrifying to any gullible 50s+ who allowed themselves to be duped, “brainwashed” and willingly queued-up to be swiftly injected… back there in March.

How do you live comfortable within yourself once you realise there’s a ticking bio-time-bomb within you? Simply put, you don’t… hence the numerous downvote shills here. The amount of avoidance and blame shifting that the provaxx crowd have to generate in order NOT to conclude that the treatments are neither safe nor effective is staggering. Then we have the current non-stop ongoing boosters this… boosters that propaganda if not folks winter lockdowns loom.

Ask yourself this? If these Covid vaxxes don’t stop variant spreads, if these leaky vaxxes only provide minimal therapeutic relief, if they destroy natural human immunity for life, why should BUILD BACK BETTER politios like BoJo and his NEW NORMAL WEF policy aligned gang be still so manically keen to get the whole of the UK jabbed, babies an all?
It’s obvious. For this plandemic illusion to successfully continue rolling along they cannot afford to have any large control group of unvaxxd not dropping dead… or else serious blowback and social unrest evolves faster, that and the deadly variant mutation lies no longer stick.
Guaranteed though for Gates/Fauci/Ferguson et al there will be no Nuremburg trial this time around so what’s left of civil society needs to act accordingly. 
Come 2025 the few remaining vaxxoids, though maimed who may survive you can bet on the following BBC soundbite platitudes: “You did the right thing”…“No one knew”… “Prof. Chris Whitty said.”
Be seeing you.

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NonCompliant
NonCompliant
3 years ago

PHE Technical Briefing No 24 appears to be lost in transit! Was due Friday but no sign of it yet.

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
3 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

Is this not it?

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1022514/Technical_Briefing_24.pdf

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

Spotted this at the bottom of the Technical Briefing:
Sinister…..

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SimCS
SimCS
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Now ask them to define “sustainable”! No one can. After all, if “sustainable” is the underpinning watchword of govt policy in multiple areas, they should be able to define it, shouldn’t they?

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Hopeless
Hopeless
3 years ago

The “vaccine” programme has been the arse-saver for Johnson and Co, hence the frantic ratcheting up to stick it into as many people as possible, from cradle to near-grave. They are cunning enough, and despite the flim-flam, propaganda and brown-nosing media, they know as well as other informed people, that the efficacy of this stuff, questionable in the first place and now dwindling like snow in the sun, isn’t the panacea sold to them.

In other words, they’ve painted themselves into a corner, with few ways out, and short of somebody producing a non-lethal conventional vaccine that works, deluging the world in more and more Pfizer looks the option of choice.

It’s medical porn theatre, inclined to pantomime, and, as usual, the underlying factor is the desire of a few people to make a ton of money out of it.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless

But this is happening everywhere – I don’t think bringing it back to British politics is useful. A decision has been made way above Johnson’s government to get this stuff into every Westerner (everyone else seems to be getting conventional vaccines); it seems more useful to see our govt as merely the local executors of a much bigger plan at this stage.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Good point. But big finance as the driver is a pretty good explanation for starters. Modern elite structures and communication make it feasible.

There are a number of pointers – and all point in the same direction.

One of the most flagrant (among many) is the focus on dodgy witches brews dreamed up at lightning speed, and the contrasting lack of focus on early home-based treatment (which, of course, would be a much more effective means of dealing with A&E pressure).

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

To a degree, they are and this was well-known from the onset: There’s the WHO, supposedly a global body of disease superexperts, which decided that there’s currently a pandemic and which also provides expert advice and coordination regarding what to do about that, presumably down to useful PR phrases.

As that’s just an advisory body, it’s up to national governments to chose which parts of the advice they implement in which ways, with (examples of) the opposite extremes being New Zealand (“Covid me harder!”) and Belarus (“Corona off!”).

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

Ha! Sweden: “Covid Casual”

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Paul B
Paul B
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

Didn’t the WHO change the definition of a pandemic at or before the start?

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MizakeTheMizan
MizakeTheMizan
3 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

Yes, and then they changed the definition of herd-immunity and then the definition of vaccinations.

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ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
3 years ago
Reply to  MizakeTheMizan

AND, most insidious and impactful of all, they changed the definition of what a ‘case’ is. This sleight of hand (based on the useless PCR bollox), enabled them to keep all the figures – and thus the fear – running hot. This, in turn, gave them the ammunition to propagandise the world into totalitarian control. The lack of logic throughout has been breathtaking, the manipulation sickeningly transparent. . .

Illusion and lies. Worldwide. Surely cannot all be due to incompetence and panic, can it?

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

They did. But that’s pretty immaterial.

As someone wrote elsewhere (Omar Khan in the text linked-to by the news roundup): They’ve gotten better at pandemic cosplaying since the swine flu debacle. Not the least because they got rid of the burnt flu brand name.

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VeryLittleHelps
VeryLittleHelps
3 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

WHO changed the definition of a pandemic during the swine flu farce.

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I agree, had an interesting chat the other day at our local SITP. I’d always erred on the side of Johnson not really having the virus last year but one of the others reckons he was exposed to a massive viral load of it (or something) resulting in his hospitalisation and afterwards was told something along the lines of ‘toe the line or we’ll do the same to you again and all your family.’
Has got me thinking…

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

That’s exactly the kind of supposition I thrive on!

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless

Two winters of it would normaly be enought for a reasonable level of herd immunity anyway, so perhaps that’s what they are hoping will happen? Then they can claim it was the vaccine wot dun it?

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Lockdown served to inhibit naturally acquired herd immunity. They were desperate for it not to get ahead of their artificial immunity programme.

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rockoman
rockoman
3 years ago

If commodities prices – in particular energy – continue rising as they are now, then it doesn’t matter what ‘winter plan’ they give us.

It’s difficult to have a digital dictatorship when the electricity isn’t working.

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debra
debra
3 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

There’s always a silver lining 😀👍🏻

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nrw
nrw
3 years ago

I live in Spain and although we had a strict lockdown, things are virtually back to normal. The Spanish government say we have to live with it and it is being classed as bad flu. Also the Spanish courts have said the passes are illegal as they are discriminatory and of no valu eas both vaxed and unvaxed can catch and spread the virus.

https://english.elpais.com/society/2021-09-27/experts-say-worst-of-the-pandemic-is-over-in-spain-but-warn-coronavirus-is-here-to-stay.html?mid=DM83247&bid=743978510#?sma=newsletter_inenglish20211001m

https://injuredly.com/spains-supreme-court-ruled-against-the-use-of-vaccine-passports-to-restrict-access-to-public-places/

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NonCompliant
NonCompliant
3 years ago
Reply to  nrw

Good news on the passports. Gives people in the UK a glimmer of hope.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  nrw

This is very good news indeed. The originators of this plan seem to be running into actual laws all over the place.

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10navigator
10navigator
3 years ago
Reply to  nrw

nrw. Me too, lived here for 20+ years. Valencia region, 50m from the sea front. Sadly, an estimated 50% of punters strolling on the prom’ still insist on being masked. The fear is deep-rooted now. One or two lunatics remain masked on the beach!
I’m an unjabbed septuagenarian, having had an ‘armful’ of everything going in my time, (proper vaccines, that took on average 20 years to develop and test).

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago

So we have two distinct alternatives realities here (as paranoid sceptics) really don’t we:

  • Plan A: Vaccine passports are about forcing compliance because the key aim is to inject genetic nonsense into every human being on Earth for some undisclosed reason.
  • Plan B: Technocracy is the ultimate aim, the vaccines are simply a means of getting every human being on Earth to sign up for a vaccine passport which will lead inexorably to some kind of dystopian social credit score / digital currency bullshit nonsense.

Which one’s the Trojan horse? Answers on a nanopostcard. If we work this out we’ll know how worried to be about opting out, and also the lengths they’ll go to to get what they want………🤔

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isobar
isobar
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

For my money it’s Plan B. This has never been about a virus, it’s about control and command of the masses. The virus is the Trojan horse.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  isobar

Control and command is not an end in itself. It’s means to an end.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

taking rent-seeking to the next level.

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isobar
isobar
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

Agree!

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Kung Flu Lou
Kung Flu Lou
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

The two are not mutually exclusive; plan B is definitely the main part of the agenda but you have to ask yourself why they will be ‘vaccine only Covid status certification passes’. If it were solely about digital ID, why not allow linking tests or natural immunity to the passes?
Which leaves the question are they intent on maximising profit from ongoing ‘vaccine’ booster campaigns and/or is there something in this gunk that will affect people somehow in the future?

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Kung Flu Lou

Question remains then. If it was all about technocracy the vaccine could just be saline. If you are trying to induct the global population on to a universal digital platform, why do it with such a demonstrably dangerous and novel technology????

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Kung Flu Lou
Kung Flu Lou
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

if it were just saline, it would have soon been found out to be just saline and the game would be up.
Could it be that the virus was engineered to fit the ‘vaccine’ but an unexpected mutation (the Indian variant) has rendered the vaccine useless and perhaps the desperation now is an attempt to drive out the control group so no comparisons can be made.

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isobar
isobar
3 years ago
Reply to  Kung Flu Lou

I think that you have hit the spot there. The number of reported (and that might be only 10%) side effects get worse and worse. If they had been any other ‘vaccines’ the plug would have pulled long ago.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Kung Flu Lou

I like your thinking very much here. It has felt all along that the virus hasn’t really lived up to expectations (not as deadly as the ones in their simulations) it feels like they expected us to be begging them for the vaccine. Many people did but there’s an inconveniently large number of people who felt safe enough to say er… no thanks!

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Jane G
Jane G
3 years ago
Reply to  Kung Flu Lou

Isn’t that what Dr David Martin (he of the patents) implied a couple of months ago to Reiner Fuellmich? At least, the virus being cooked up because they had a vaccine to push?

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debra
debra
3 years ago
Reply to  Kung Flu Lou

A bit of both I think.😏

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Mike Yeadon
Mike Yeadon
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I think both are true.

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Mike Yeadon
Mike Yeadon
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike Yeadon

I agree with the reasoning that if the sole goal was to get us on a digital ID, they could have used something a lot more bland than new technology mRNA & DNA vaccines. Especially ones using cytotoxic spike protein.
That they’ve used these, despite the hideous lethality & injuries tells me it’s more than mere digital ID.
I suspect that VaxPass to buy food will synergise coercing people to receive up to 8-10 injections.
It would be easy to design the later “boosters” in such a way that their lethality builds on whatever they’ve already injected, the goal being mass depopulation.

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thinkcriticall
thinkcriticall
3 years ago

In an Israeli hospital outbreak, 96% vaccination rates (and universal masking) made no difference. And guess who had mild cases? Hint: not the vaccinated.

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/so-much-for-vaccine-generated-herd

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

Interesting case study!

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bringbacksanity
bringbacksanity
3 years ago

I’ve just been looking at the exemptions from the jab, because my Daughter has allergies which are managed via epipen and my wife has family history of clotting.

they certainly don’t make it easy to avoid their bastard App. They even say that from mid December all exemptions are being managed through the App. Which tells us we will be “locked out” instead of lockdown at Christmas. and they are brining these vile things in regardless of all the lies and denials or indeed consultations.

what is worrying is that to get an exemption requires you to avoid your GP. And go to 119 (NHS) where they will take your GP details and send you a form to complete. At no stage in the process are you allowed to speak to your GP and in the end all decisions are final. It’s unbelievable what they are forcing people to do. Unbelievable, that we are all going to be forced to live a life depended on Pfizer’s supply and NHS ability to inject. Just like junkies and their dealers. Every 6 months forevermore. It’s not even comically amusing, even if utterly idiotic.

Last edited 3 years ago by bringbacksanity
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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  bringbacksanity

But you do not have to prove or elaborate on self-exemption.

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bringbacksanity
bringbacksanity
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Agreed, but based on the information on .gov.uk. From mid December self exemptions cease. And the app will just confirm you are one of the sheep, rather than an exempted person.

one such exemption is “a person with severe allergies to all currently available vaccines”. How do you know until you are pumped full of the shit ?
The NHS COVID Pass for people who are medically exempt from vaccinations and/or testsAll exemptions will be confirmed by your doctor, specialist clinician or midwife. If approved, your NHS COVID Pass can then be used to prove your status.
The domestic NHS COVID Pass will look and work the same for people with medical exemptions as it will for people who are fully vaccinated. The pass will not show that you have a medical exemption.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/covid-19-medical-exemptions-proving-you-are-unable-to-get-vaccinated#if-youre-unable-to-get-vaccinated-andor-tested-for-covid-19-for-medical-reasons

Last edited 3 years ago by bringbacksanity
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SJR
SJR
3 years ago
Reply to  bringbacksanity

How will the elderly who don’t have smartphones prove their ‘exemption’ then?
My father in law still uses an ancient Nokia. He can’t even text, so he’s got no chance of using the app.

Last edited 3 years ago by SJR
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bringbacksanity
bringbacksanity
3 years ago
Reply to  SJR

I agree. It’s forcing big tech’s smart phones to support big pharma’s jabs. It’s wrong.

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Mike Yeadon
Mike Yeadon
3 years ago
Reply to  SJR

They’re merciless. He’ll be isolated.
What people are failing to realise is that they’ll extend the list of things for which you’ll require a VaxPass, eventually to food, fuel & banking. France already is coming down on food steadily, reducing the size of shop for which a VaxPass is required. Our poor friend says she’ll only be able to buy online & if there’s a pick up or delivery service.

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JASA
JASA
3 years ago
Reply to  bringbacksanity

I’ve just checked the .gov.uk site and indeed it has to be by telephone. What if you live alone and cannot use the telephone e.g. severe hearing difficulties, severe social anxiety, autistic (total fear using a phone) etc. I am in this category, not that I am going to get it anyway, but there’s no way that I can, even if I wanted to. They have to provide an alternative way, otherwise it contravenes the Equality Act 2010. I have this problem with just a telephone number being provided all the time and in fact had a long back and forth e-mail battle with my GP surgery, until I mentioned legal action. It is particularly short sighted when autism, for example, is a valid exemption on their list.

Everything is allegedly being done to protect the vulnerable, yet they are the very group that aren’t being protected or helped at all.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  JASA

They probably don’t give a shit about breaching the Equality Act, unfortunately – it’s one of many which they have breached during the past 18 months.

They know that the legal system won’t hold them to account, and in the unlikely event that anyone manages to get it to court they will get away with claiming that they “had” to behave as they did as it was an emergency.

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Mike Yeadon
Mike Yeadon
3 years ago
Reply to  bringbacksanity

It’s also EXTREMELY dangerous. If you’ve not yet looked at Steve Kirsch’s website you’ll see some frightening computations based on the VAERS data.

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itoldyouiwasill
itoldyouiwasill
3 years ago

There is no Plan A.
The government is just marking time until it plunges us all into Plan B, probably November time. At this point, it will find a way to convince us all that all the ADE illnesses and deaths we are seeing are somehow the fault of the unvaccinated.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago

Why capitalise “Covid Passports”? Call them what they are: social credit score apps.

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isobar
isobar
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Got it in one!

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Kung Flu Lou
Kung Flu Lou
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

I prefer to call them Nazi passes.

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago

“The bullying and resultant mistrust may impact Covid vaccine uptake as well as other public health initiatives.”

Certainly has in my family, none of us will be having any vaccines in the future of any sort.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Exactly the same sentiments in my family. We don’t even want any form of medicine ever again, such is the loss of trust.

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isobar
isobar
3 years ago

This satirical video sums a lot of things up as to where we are at the moment. Entitled ‘If Public Health Canada was honest’ you could easily replace ‘Canada’ by just about every other western country bar Sweden. Worth a watch and a share.

https://youtu.be/h6PobXQ-af8

Last edited 3 years ago by isobar
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isobar
isobar
3 years ago

Ivermectin revealed as being part of Indian Health Pack that, where issued, has reportedly led to major falls in Covid incidence

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout—part-v-the-secret-revealed/article_9a37d9a8-1fb2-11ec-a94b-47343582647b.html

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Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
3 years ago
Reply to  isobar

Anybody know where we can get some? My mum (83) has started with a cold (sore throat etc) so I’d like to have it for her if possible. She won’t take a test, just says ‘I’ve had colds all my life I’m not faffing about with all this nonsense now’. She hasn’t had the jab and is now suspicious of having the ‘flu jab that she’s always had before as she doesn’t trust the doctors anymore.

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oblong
oblong
3 years ago
Reply to  Andrea Salford

Could try India mart
Or email
GURUBABA PHARMAX
Pay using XE
Get it within a week
Known to be trustworthy by a friend

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Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
3 years ago
Reply to  oblong

Thank you, I’ll try them.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Andrea Salford

Horsey shops sell it.

Maybe some renegades in the MSM were being a bit “helpful” or perhaps it was an accident to describe this drug as “horse dewormer”.

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Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Thank you. That’s a good pointer.

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VeryLittleHelps
VeryLittleHelps
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

You can get it from online pet shops too, just make sure it is only ivermectin and no other drugs in ingredients. Dosage would be a bit tricky to work out too, but possible.

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Stephensceptic
Stephensceptic
3 years ago

I have had enough of this evil regime.

Resistance.

I am traditionally a Tory voter too.

Never again.

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robwallser
robwallser
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephensceptic

Taht jounoclown you all voted for wasnt much different two years ago as i recall what on earth did you see in him .

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephensceptic

”Never again”. You’re right there – I doubt we’ll ever be allowed another election as we have known them.

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robwallser
robwallser
3 years ago

This is great news for the crumbling NHS who are using the last three lockdowns as a quantifiable excuse for the 500 year waiting list we now have, so yes let make it worse again .The point being that Covid deaths in such numbers have peaked and will never be that high again .Other deaths from( i believe they are called other” condition will kill millions .I was very shocked recently to hear about other illness’s .i cant remember their names but i genuinly thought there was only one called Covid 19 .Still learn something everyday

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  robwallser

‘Other illnesses’? I don’t understand.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Minor things like cancer and heart disease – obviously these don’t need quick treatment, and are nowhere near as serious as Covid…

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

I still don’t understand. I thought the only illness was covid?

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Duncan Cragg
Duncan Cragg
3 years ago

Here’s the link:

https://lauradodsworth.substack.com/p/winter

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Duncan Cragg
Duncan Cragg
3 years ago

Here’s the link to the article:

https://lauradodsworth.substack.com/p/winter

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RTSC
RTSC
3 years ago

If you pay no attention to Government statements or the BBC, Sky, ITV etc, you won’t be nudged.

I am in the sizeable minority who consider Vaccine Passports a reason NOT to be jabbed. I won’t be bullied, bribed or blackmailed by these authoritarians.

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SimCS
SimCS
3 years ago

“Essentially, confusion increases compliance.”. Isn’t that their whole purpose?

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago

”It seems unlikely that the public and businesses could be persuaded again…”

Businesses will be threatened with the loss of their licences, insurances, etc. That’ll ”persuade” them.

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