Adam Finn, Professor of Paediatrics at the University of Bristol and a member of the Government’s Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), was on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme this morning (around the 50 minute mark) taking a surprisingly strong line against vaccinating children because of the “side effects”. Here’s an edited transcript of what he said:
The main priority at the moment is to try and immunise as many people as possible who are at risk of getting really sick with this virus, because that’s the one thing we want avoid is another big surge of hospitalisations and deaths, and that isn’t going to happen in children. … Children are very rarely seriously affected by this infection. …
The evidence we’ve got with children, particularly young children, is that they are not very infectious to each other or to adults around them and that the majority of the transmission of the infection is in the adult population in fact. …
There is a certain amount of transmission going in secondary schools, so in teenagers, but in fact we’ve been surprised about how little transmission we’ve picked up in schools and of course this time around there’s been a lot more testing and awareness of what’s going in schools. …
In normal times, just as in pandemic times, we simply wouldn’t want to immunise anybody without needing to. It’s an invasive thing to do, it costs money, and it causes a certain amount of discomfort, and vaccines have side effects. So if we can control this virus without immunising children we shouldn’t immunise children as a matter of principle. …
I’m optimistic that we in particular in the U.K., with the high coverage we’re achieving and the extremely effective vaccine we’ve got, that we can achieve population immunity and I’m afraid it’s an open question as to whether we need to immunise any children at all and if we do how many children we need to immunise.
This is quite a change of tune for Professor Finn, who last month told BBC Breakfast that children had been “left behind” in vaccination and vaccine trials, saying: “We’re impatient now to get on and do the necessary trials in children so that these vaccines can start to be used, and actually circumstances are holding us back so it’s a very frustrating situation to be in.”
He did add, though, that side-effects appeared to be worse in younger people: “There is evidence for more or less all of the vaccines against Covid that the side-effect rate, the reactogenicity that we see, basically goes up the younger you are.”
At the time of these earlier comments the AstraZeneca trials in children were paused while the MHRA investigated blood clot links. What has Professor Finn seen since then that persuaded him that maybe vaccinating children isn’t so pressing after all? Is this a sign that the side-effects, at least in the young, are beginning to be taken seriously by the Government?
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There are NO benefits to children. NONE.
And equally important, Covid is zero risk to this age group.
So why are they being vaxxed against it? To stop it spreading to others?
Err, nope, it doesn’t stop transmission apparently.
And haven’t those “others” been vaxxed anyway?
You have to be fully brainwashed or a retard to not see the naked fraud and profiteering here.
Profiteering is the least of their sins.
Shouldn’t this story have mentioned how many UK children between the ages of 12 and 15 have died from or with COVID?
For context, compare this figure to the number of children who die in a typical flu season.
I’ve calculated the odds my healthy, non-minority children (ages 5 and 9) will die from COVID. They are about 1-in-1-million.
The odds they or I will be struck by lightning this year are 1-in-700,000.
Pfizer are working on an anti-lightning jab, I hear. To be administered every blue moon.
<checks watch, waits 18 months…>
Filming of Mission Impossible 7 has been halted due to positive tests amongst the film crew.
At least now we know what the plot of Mission Impossible 8 will be…
but but but Tom insisted everyone wear 10 masks, how could they possibly have caught it?
This is the future – every activity/job/event potentially disrupted at the drop of a hat
“We have carefully reviewed clinical trial data in children aged 12 to 15 years and have concluded that the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid vaccine is safe and effective in this age group and that the benefits of this vaccine outweigh any risk,”
What utter, utter bollocks.
Drivel from a lying moron who doesn’t give a flying feck and is just parroting what they’ve been told to say without giving it any thought.
I decided to write to the MHRA with a few questions. Did you notice the weasel words that they used in their press release?
…..There were no cases of COVID-19 from 7 days after the second dose in the vaccinated group, compared with 16 cases in the placebo group……
They only started counting cases from 7 days after the second dose, which means I think that there were cases before this time period.
I also asked about the seriousness of the placebo ‘cases’. I am betting that all 16 cases were just false positives and the individuals werent even ill.
What is going on here is just monstrous.
Cherry picking the mouldy data cherries
Well done….. but what are the chances of an honest reply??
With you totally – I think 9 under 15s died “with” covid in 2020 – so logic dictates we get to 10 vaccine related deaths and it is then too dangerous to continue…?
I want to see the actual justification…
Give drugs that don’t work to a cohort that doesn’t need it…
Definitely doesn’t set any alarm bells ringing
I’ve been pointing out that in Scotland we have recorded just 69 deaths in the under 45’s with Covid since last March. I thought this was a pretty damning statistic in itself given the harms that have been unleashed on this age group through lockdowns . And then a friend pointed out – REMEMBER ‘within 28 days’ – many of those people could well have been suicides, misadventure, drug deaths. I was thinking – co-morbidities – stupid of me to not think about this. Makes it even more ridiculous that they’re advocating this (if it could get any more ridiculous).
And how many deaths due to the lethal injections in that period?
Stats up to Christmas Eve: https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/two-scots-under-45-no-19531680
The problem here is that Covid vaccination is the main plank of the depopulation pogrom that is now in full flow across most of the world. They won’t admit that there may be any problems until they have jabbed us all.
Absolutely Terrifying – I wonder if this numbskull or numbskulls would pass this as safe and effective for children if they were told that They (the person or committee members (not the drugs company ) could be sued if any of the Children have long term side effects from this experimental jab that is being used on an emergency licence …. Lets then see if they are prepared to put their money where their mouth is.. Somehow I don’t think so
A trial based on 2000 kids means it’s safe enough to roll out to millions of kids, wtf isn’t going on!!
Benefits outweigh the risks! They stand a nigh on 100% chance of surviving Covid! This is pure evil !
‘Why?’ What I find incredible is that the idea of vaccinating children has been largely communicated and even debated. But never after the question ‘why?’ has been answered. Surely any news item on this subject should start with e.g. ‘There is a plan to vaccinate children because. . .’ But why anyone wants to do this thing is never explained. It is a plan without any known purpose.
On the contrary. It has a clear purpose. Pfizer profits. Control.
Please can somebody point me in the direction of the trials that involved apes, of any sort but preferably chimpanzees, that shows the impact of these drugs upon such mammals and their offspring.
The only ones ever undertaken on mRNA type vaccines started in 2002 and in every single case they failed testing because all of the animals got sick and most died after being exposed to the actual virus. For the vaccines pumped into millions of people there have been no animal tests and, in fact, none have passed even second stage testing. Millions of people decided to be Lab Rats. Quite frankly I’ve given up trying to get them to see sense, fuck them, if they all die so what?
Proof positive of the pointlessness of the MHRA as a safeguarding institution operating on behalf of the public.
It’s merely a shameless shill for government – starting from the fact that there is no ’emergency’ to justify authorization.
Mengele is alive and well and working for the MHRA.
Its the regulator of Big Pharma paid for and by Big Pharma. There was never any question it would support what they wanted. Now the question is, will the government actually do what a government is supposed to do, or will it too rubber stamp? I think we all know the answer to that unfortunately. And of course the majority of governments can just point to each other and say, we all did it.
Its a shameless shill for Bill Gates and his parasitic cohorts.. The same has just happened in France. The bastards behind this really do need the ultimate punishment.
I am depressed but not surprised by France doing the same. And the conditions attached to the travel ‘traffic lights’ announced in France today are also depressingly predictable. No attempt to disguise the inducement to get vaccinated, all our fears in full view.
Absolutely.. its as plain as the nose on your face. I’m utterly sickened by people just not being able to put two and two together.
A couple of my French friends who should know better can think of nothing more than going on holiday again. I can’t find words to describe their stupidity..
I am truly frightened by my government and the MHRA —-
You knew this was coming when the papers are full of stories of the spread of Covid in schools. Even though there are tiny amounts of cases, you’d think all hell had broken loose. The variants were just an excuse to get the kids jabbed. No doubt they’ll work their way down ’til eventually sperm are jabbed whilst still swimming in your balls.
You think there will be viable sperm in the future after all the jabbing?
I think infertility is the general idea for those that survive that is. Death to all others..
The passports are the goal, for them to work you need complete families with passports, they want to control travel. If you refuse to get your child vaccinated they don’t have a passport so no travel.
They are evil
I am afraid that their goals are much more sinister and bold than some travel documents. No one knows what they are but all the remaining possibilities would be too dark for the Nazi party.
Freedom to travel is a great incentive for many. (It breaks my heart to think I’ll never again visit your shores). But restrictions and control of travel is just the least sinister aspect of the “programme.”
First do no harm.
They think (other) people ARE the harm.
The MHRA receives funding from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. The article above is from the Guardian. The Guardian also receives funding from the Gates Foundation. The Wellcome Trust cropped up in a story on LS earlier today. The Wellcome Trust receives funding from the Gates Foundation. Nothing to look at here, I’m sure.
Anyone who isn’t deluded, corrupt or simply an idiot would know that a trustworthy safeguarding agency will not be in receipt of funding from private sources with an agenda..
My word
The BBBC has just opened comments on this and (after a few days off) 77th were ready to pounce on it. Comments are utterly deluded, for example talking about how children have been shown to be super spreaders of the virus. Almost every comment is demonstrably the opposite of the truth.
This needs sharing everywhere…
Where’s Isildur when you need him…
This too.
This
The extra B means .. Bastards……
Madness.
Well worth reminding people of what we are dealing with here in terms of fatality for those of various age groups who get the virus – this survival chart for covid19 gives some indication of chances of survival for those who contract covid19 (note : those between 10 and 19 years of age with no underlying health conditions have a 99.9996% survival rate) …
Branch Covidians care not for this. They only care that you martyr yourself to save the .2%.
It’s worse. The argument I have seen today was that all kids would have to get vaccinate because 200 were sent home to isolate at their own kids school after a single case.
Thats it. That’s their line in the sand here. That’s their level of need to allow for mass vaccination of all children.
Great stats.
It needs to add chances of dying or injury from the jabs (which is undoubtedly greater).
… and you’ve got to catch it first – which is actually quite difficult, particularly at this level of general prevalence. Take out noscomial infection, and its very rare indeed.
This is the risk/benefit that needs repeating. A less than 1 in 2 million chance of dying from/with C19. At best, from the data so far a 1 in 50-100,000 chance of dying from the Wuhan jab.
Yes. If you put selective poison in the water supply you know – and they do know this – will kill a percentage of those who drink it, there’s an intent to kill. You don’t need to know their names. You don’t need to know how many you will kill.
Try telling the parents of any child who has permanent, life changing side effects or who dies following the experimental gene therapy that the benefits outweigh the risks.
“You were born free. Don’t let them take your freedoms away from you. AND PROTECT THE CHILDREN. And (under) no conditions let them have that vaccine that kills people.”
Benedictine Nuns, London Freedom March March 29, 2021.
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/would-a-nun-lie-to-you-hugo-talks-lockdown_bquIpFPlBDaHtCo.html
All very well moaning about it but less than 42k people have signed Ros Jones’s petition.
It won’t even trigger a debate in Parliament.
Is that the one which says until trials are complete? Just kicking the can down the road.
In another 18 months more information will come to light. People will start to talk to each other and share experiences.
The petition raises the issue that the Trials have not been completed. Relatively few people know this.
If they’re allowed to.
Ok – so just forget it.
If it is debated in parliament then it will at least make some MPs aware. I doubt they are fully informed of the facts.
In any case the Pfizer and Moderna Phase III trials were effectively shut down after 6 months, when they vaccinated their control group.
So what? That’s even more evidence that the vaccines haven’t been properly tested.
This petition is the only way the wider public including MPs might actually become aware of the facts.
The “only way”? Bullshit.
Why the down vote? I often disagree with Mayo – but the observation is correct.
Bluntly, mass reasoning and morality is now corrupted beyond belief. I understand 1930s Germany far more clearly than I did two years ago.
And I’m afraid Rick that the stories/history of 1930’s Germany is brought to you via the same scum responsible for what’s happening now.
Modern history has been a passion of mine for the past three decades and I can assure you after extensive research that we have not been told the truth about both world wars, who was behind them, and their purpose.
As the old saying goes.. the winners get to write the history..
George , This is little bit of history about a near by ‘camp’ that might interest you. It confirms what you write, has relevance to medical experimentation that we are all witnessing, and shows medical ethics can become warped.
Camp King and the experimenter turned ethicist
Operation Paperclip
Operation Paperclip is the name of the US Government operation to bring senior Nazi scientists to the US to help with military cold war operations. Some of these scientists had been involved in the development of chemical and biological weapons and in medical experiments at Dachau and Ravensbrück. Dr Kurt Blome, for example, was the Third Reich’s deputy health minister but was acquitted during the Nuremberg trial, as was General Walter Schreiber, former medical chief for the Wehrmacht.
Operation Artichoke
Based at Camp King in Oberursel ex-gestapo officers Kurt Blome and Walter Schreiber (using the pseudonym Fischer) worked at a villa in the neighbouring town of Kronberg where they oversaw inhumane interrogations of Soviet defectors and double agents using drugs such as Benzedrin and Pentothal-Natrium.
Operation MK ULTRA
The worst MK Ultra human testing was done in what would later be called ‘black sites’ – clandestine facilities such as Camp King out of sight and reach of US law. Camp King was previously the Luftwaffe’s “Durchgangslage Luft” interrogation center, then the after the war became the home of the US’s European Command Interrogation Center where, after 1948 the use of LSD was supervised by Dr. Henry K. Beecher, the Dorr Professor of Anesthesiology at Harvard University. In August 1952 Dr. Beecher began his decade long work on LSD drug testing subjects during secret interrogation at Villa Schuster later Waldhof Kronberg. Beecher, was aware of the drug’s painful effects from the Swiss manufacturer Sandoz report, all the same inflicted the trauma of paranoid reaction and acute panic on his human subjects.
Experimenter turned ethicist
Except from the following paper published in the Bulletin of the World Health Organization, 2001,
Laying ethical foundations for clinical research Jon Harkness,1Susan E. Lederer, & Daniel Wikler
In his essay ‘‘Ethics and clinical research’’ in 1966 (1), Henry K. Beecher identified ethical lapses in research carried out by physician–scientists in renowned universities and published in the world’s leading journals. In this paper, which has rightly been deemed the most influential single paper ever written about experimentation involving human subjects (2), Beecher demonstrated that poor treatment of human subjects was not confined to the barbaric practices of Nazi doctors that had been documented by the Nuremberg war crimes tribunal after the Second World War. Beecher’s paper prompted a reconsideration of research practices that laid the groundwork for today’s ethical codes and review committees.
https://www.historyextra.com/period/20th-century/mk-ultra-secrets-cia-mind-control-programme-central-intelligance-agency-brainwashing/
https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/handle/10665/74765/vol79.no.4.365-372.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
I won’t sign it because it still endorses using children as guinea pigs in dangerous and unnecessary drug trials
Then you’re giving them free rein to carry on. Well done.
If the trials come up with unsatisfactory results (they won’t because we’re seeing the results NOW) The Yellow Card data will need to be analysed. It’ll take years to look into the 1K plus deaths.
The public think the vaccines have been tested. This petition shows that is not the case. It might start the conversation.
There was absolutely no need for them to include the part about waiting for vaccine trials to be completed before making any decisions about the rollout of vaccines for children. It was giving mixed messages and detracted from the thrust of the argument. I have principles, and I stand by them. If you really think that me not signing that petition is me “giving them free rein to carry on” , you have a naive idea about the power of petitions, the toss government gives about drug/vaccine trial results, and you have no idea about the power of me.
You’re right. Even testing them or making them any part of this charade is unconscionable. I’m writing notices of liability for anyone local in a position of authority that involves themselves with this. Others should be doing the same I think. Better than a pretend parliamentary petition.
Lest we should forget who’s pulling the strings, the MHRA has received over $7 million in ‘grants’ from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and in 2019 Dr Raine attended a BMGF conference in Seattle. She’ll be very near the top of the list of defendants when the day of reckoning comes.
TOTALLY DISGUSTED!
These people had better hope there’s no risk or that we’re all going to be wiped out in some massive depopulation event.
Because if it comes out that there are dangers with these gene based vaccines that were known and suppressed, I think they’ll have a lot of people motivated to punish them and I don’t mean by going through the so-called official channels.
There is risk and they know it. Thousands are dying and being maimed because of being injected with this shit. Look at the European figures below. What we’re witnessing here is an ongoing genocide, and this is just the beginning..
https://www.globalresearch.ca/12184-dead-1196190-injuries-european-database-adverse-drug-reactions-covid-19-vaccines/5746273
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Interesting that 75% of AZ reports were not done by a healthcare professional. There self-reporting systems are being widely abused as a result of vaccine panic.
Evidence please
Eudravigilance break down reports by healthcare professional or not:
https://dap.ema.europa.eu/analytics/saw.dll?PortalPages&PortalPath=%2Fshared%2FPHV%20DAP%2F_portal%2FDAP&Action=Navigate&P0=1&P1=eq&P2=%22Line%20Listing%20Objects%22.%22Substance%20High%20Level%20Code%22&P3=1+40995439
I know for a fact that many healthcare professionals are not reporting adverse events. They should – even if they don’t suspect the vaccine caused the effect.
in any case the same or similar systems have been in operation for years. Anti-vaxxers are not a new phenomenon. The US vaccinates millions of people every year – yet there has never been anything on this scale before.
How do you “know for a fact” that many healthcare professionals are not reporting adverse events? Has there been a survey?
Similar systems have been in operation for years but with nothing approaching the same publicity. I don’t know if a similar proportion of non-healthcare professionals were reporting adverse events for previous vaccines. Do you?
“but with nothing approaching the same publicity.”
Nobody I’ve spoken to was made aware of the reporting system, let alone encouraged to use it.
Nobody I’ve spoken to has been contacted by the NHS or their GP after being injected to check whether they’ve had an adverse reaction. In contrast, I’ve had 3 letters, 6 texts, 3 calls on my landline and 6 on my mobile trying to get me to be jabbed. And 3 texts encouraging me to take the flu jab.
A friend spent 3 days in bed after her first AZ jab: when I suggested she report it she said that would be “ungrateful”
Are you seriously claiming that the Covid vaccination programme has not had massive publicity? People may not have heard of the yellow card system but the hype of the vaccination programme means they are far more likely to find out about it if something.unpleasant happens just after they take the vaccine.
“Are you seriously claiming that the Covid vaccination programme has not had massive publicity?”
That comment proves to me that you’re a shill: my comment was very, very clearly about the system for reporting adverse effects..
And you’ve changed your comment in response to mine without admitting it.
I don’t know how to change my comments. As a matter of interest – is it possible and how do you do it?
There is a brief grace period, after you post a comment.
If you “mouse-over” your comment, a cogwheel symbol appears at the bottom right, level with the “Reply” link.
Thanks. I am always making typos which I spot immediately after posting.
There’s a few shills on here. Which is a positive thing as it shows they’re worried.
That’s what I think, helenf. They are so obvious it is painful. All they do is make me even more convinced we are right.
Yesterday I shared the link to a petition in the Telegraph to stop children being vaccinated until Phase 3 trials are over, and some shill claimed I was spamming the comments and for the moderator to remove the link. It was removed but not until a good number of people had signed and shared it. And now I see it it on Lockdown Sceptics today, anyway.
Please everyone, sign and share. it could slow down the vaccination program on our youngsters who we must do everything to protect!
Legal Notices of liability are a good idea too. I’m sending one to my boss (I’m a teacher) should the school become a ‘vaccination’ centre. I won’t be able to work somewhere children are being injected with something that might kill, maim or sterilise them. If adults are stupid enough to put themselves forward for this nonsense that’s up to them, but children need actively protecting from this. Enough is enough.
“healthcare professionals” who are willing to inject people at negligible risk from the virus with experimental gene therapies are exactly the kind of people who would conceal the negative consequences of their actions.
I know many healthcare professionals.
Irrelevant. Vaccine rollouts have previously been abandoned when the death toll reached 50 – regardless of who was reporting.
I know many healthcare professionals.
So your only evidence is your personal experience?
Vaccine rollouts have previously been abandoned when the death toll reached 50 – regardless of who was reporting.
It is very relevant. If those 50 deaths were all reported by healthcare professionals and represented a significant proportion of the vaccinations that is very different from deaths reported by non-healthcare professionals during a massive campaign.
Incidentally I keep hearing about roll outs being abandoned when the death toll reached 50 but no one seems to be able to point to actual examples. Can you help? (I don’t doubt they exist but the context is important).
Yes. But I am confident the practice (or non-practice) is widespread. Doctors don’t vary too much in their general behaviour patterns
Swine Flu vaccine rollout was halted after 50 deaths were reported in the US. I heard this from Dr Peter McCullough who is both a practising doctor and a researcher. I have no reason to doubt him. Do you?
In any case, the burden of proof rests with those who are pushing the vaccines. It is not up to me nor anyone else to prove that the vaccines are not safe. It is claimed that the vaccines cause blood clots – some of which are fatal. We now know this is almost certainly the case. We even know why. The rollout needs to be stopped and the deaths investigated.
This interview with Professor Byram Bridle provides the broad details.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/nuM0G6PqgwIK/
In any case, the burden of proof rests with those who are pushing the vaccines. It is not up to me nor anyone else to prove that the vaccines are not safe. It is claimed that the vaccines cause blood clots – some of which are fatal. We now know this is almost certainly the case. We even know why.
But there is masses of proof. The original RCTs. An then all the observational studies based on the hundreds of millions of doses given so far. This article contains links to a few of the observational studies.
Yes – the monitoring process worked and the very small chance of a blood clot was identified and publicised widely. For most adults the risk is easily outweighed by the benefits. But the information about the risks is there and no one is being forced to be vaccinated. (You may be surprised to know that I agree that the case for vaccinating children is poor.)
evidence for your statement about the self-reporting systems being “widely abused as a result of vaccine panic”?
I admit that abuse and vaccine panic were rather a colourful way of describing it – done in a loose moment. A more boring and accurate way of putting it might be:
There are an exceptional number of reports being submitted compared to other vaccine rollouts which are not due to an exceptional level of risk.
My evidence for this is:
I think I can guess what MTF must stand for.
They are my initials.
Modulation transfer function?
Dr June Raine
Remember that name for Nuremberg 2.
Susan Michie, mind mangler…
Only an ignorant fool or a totally evil entity would want to inject an innocent child with a gene altering substance. Surely the mass of the people will not accept this assault upon our children by this evil axis of Government and the Pharmaceutical industry?
This announcement has crossed the line.
“Surely the mass of people will not accept this assault…” You give the ignorant, lazy, impressionable, frightened masses way too much credit.
Beyond criminal. Beyond insane. Beyond criminally insane.
I just got immediately censored on the Spectator for pointing out that injecting us with experimental gene therapies has never been about protecting our health or restoring our freedoms.
truth hurts
Truth is illegal at Airstrip One.
I’ve been over there posting like mad, just to make up for your censorship.
I’m getting very confrontational with one or two, mostly because they’re following the government line.
Ditto!
Ouch! You must have used a ‘trigger’ word & upset the bots…
There comes a point, where things go too far, and the sheep will wake up properly, this could be it for the majority.
If you’ve jabbed, why wouldn’t you have your kids jabbed? Most people I know who’ve been jabbed seem to believe it’s perfectly safe so I don’t think they’d have qualms about giving it to their kids.
Well, hopefully not, just read quite a few comments saying I’ve had the jab but stay away from my kids, that they are not in danger, time will tell
Well if that’s the case then that’s a small piece of encouragement.
Yes, I stumbled across a covid vaccine zealot Twitter thread the other day and was shocked at the people wanting to get their children vaccinated as they were so fearful for them. A lot of the talk was about kids contributing to variants, but if they don’t get sick, they won’t be infectious so won’t be passing on to others, so no variants.
I can hide away as I am retired but what will happen if schools put pressure on to have children vaccinated so they can attend school? Very hard for parents.
I don’t know how we here don’t feel this same fear of covid. I begin to feel it is me that is the odd one out. Being very sure I had covid in March 2019 I do not want a vaccine, and I don’t feel I am at any risk but 3 letters, 3 phone calls and 4 texts later I feel under so much pressure to be “a normal person” like all the other millions.
Stay strong. I long to get a phone call from them. They can phone me daily, the conversation will be cathartic for me.
I don’t agree. I think the wake up stage will happen well after all the problems with the vaccines manifest even in kids. At first there will be an attempt to deny the problem and blame the victims. Only after substantial misery will it change.
The eventual side-effects and deaths will most likely be blamed on another Chinese bioweapon. After all, the symptoms will be very similar to one another.
Should also add that this would lead them on to justify more jabs – a terrible vicious cycle.
I doubt it.
Many believe children should be vaccinated.
My friend, a TA thinks the jab thing for kids should wait until there is a nasal spray. I hadn’t realised this but apparently the kids are all given a flu ‘spray’ every year, and she equates the experimental gene therapy with the conventional flu vaccine. Nothing will change her mind. She also believes all children are superspreaders, and for that reason alone is more than happy to have this happen to them.
She is a well-educated, middle class woman who, up to now I’ve always thought of as intelligent.
I fully expect my sister will usher her son into the jab queue as soon as his age group comes up.
We’re dealing with a new global religion. People who never thought of themselves as being the “spiritual sort” never thought they’d find themselves bashing their faces with covid manuals in the streets while chanting stuff about staying safe. They really are experiencing something akin to psychosis.
More like myxomatosis…
They do NOT know the benefits, they do NOT know the negatives, this is a trial for many years
The Non Liability Clause must have helped their decision
If a group of illegal migrants to our shores can successfully sue our vile government for being placed in “inadequate” housing using taxpayers money through legal aid, no doubt costing millions, what is to stop a group of parents seeking human rights for their children not to be vaccinated by a novel gene therapy vaccine that doesn’t conclude it’s testing until 2023 and which has severe side effects including death?
This could affect millions of our children so surely legal aid could be considered.
That doesn’t benefit the establishment through enhanced rents and subdued wages therefore it won’t be a “proper” entitlement.
Children are the state’s owners (that’s not you) future cattle, so you dont get to choose.
Lets remind ourselves of a little networking shall we..
How can the benefits outweigh the risks when there is virtually no risk to kids under the age of 20 from Covid? I’m in Canada and the number of deaths under 20 is…wait for it…11. That’s in a year. The problem everyone is stuck on is this so-called “asymptomatic” transmission. I’m sure that is what they are weighing it against – kids giving it to their grandparents who do have way worse outcomes. That being said, there are studies showing that kids rarely, if at all, transmit the virus so really, there is no benefit to vaccinating kids against Covid.
They very carefully didn’t say that the benefits to the children outweigh the risks.
To quote Dr. John Lee: ” asymptomatic used to be called immune”.
If you haven’t done so already, get your sig on this letter…
https://twitter.com/UsforThemUK/status/1400802559741370372
“….vaccine deployment programme.” Does this not say it all?
This is Child Abuse – plain and simple — Why would and parent have this done to their child – It beggars belief
We tolerated lockdown, our children were next.
Fascinating how the vaccine has a pseudo religious subtext. It seems to pose the question “are you in or out?” It makes sense that parents who have joined the cult would want their children baptised into the new normal. We, as non-cult members, have a duty to protect children from their cult member parents just as much as from the state. The reckoning at the end of all this will be truly dreadful, but much worse for them than for us I think.
Theyre dialling up cases as we speak. Prepare for delay
“COVID Vaccine Injury Reports Among 12- to 17-Year-Olds More Than Triple in 1 Week, VAERS Data Show. This week’s data included 58 reports of serious adverse events in the 12- to -17-year-old age group.Youngest deaths reported include two 15-year-olds (VAERS I.D. 1187918 and 1242573 ) and a 16-year-old (VAERS I.D. 1225942).
Oh yeah, why not???
What worries me is that my (as yet unborn) grandchildren will suffer the effects of this. I don’t want my kids having babies with partners with mutant sperm and eggs. I have a friend who is actively hunting a sperm donor who hasn’t been jabbed because sperm and egg banks are reporting barren donors or unviable eggs being harvested from previously fertile and productive women.
Childlessness is already so heartbreaking. Miscarriages are incredibly distressing. You only have to look at the havoc being wreaked by long-life biocides, and forever plastics on the next generation. We don’t need this as well. So what will my kids do for partners? Will they be married to mutants, whilst getting pregnant by the “pure”. Are we heading for Handmaids Tale territory now?
Are those reports from fertility clinics real? Do they check out?
Yes, is this since vaccination or as a result of generally falling fertility rates?
I’ve only just started watching The Handmaid’s Tale. What I previously dismissed as a ridiculous storyline, I now see as chillingly possible, at least some aspects, if extreme by current standards. Who would have thought 18 months ago that we would be living in this dystopian shitshow.
And yet its author, Margaret Atwood, has been supportive of the dangerous deadly superspreading schools narrative being pushed by those who wanted to keep schools closed in Canada. An example of how someone can colourfully imagine how bad things could potentially become, yet not perceive how bad they are actually becoming when those making things bad are not perceived as the baddies.
Yes, and every other dystopian novel you can think of. Can’t help feeling we’re being set against each other; first the elites fund divisive protest movements, then society is set against each other like this i.e vaxxed vs unvaxxed. Divide and conquer a very time honoured strategy.
So what do we do? The government and its agencies are corrupt, the police are corrupt, the NHS is frankly evil, local councils corrupt, schools’ leadership incapable of independent thought, and the vast majority of the population easily manipulated and ignorant. Basically Britain has been undermined, invaded and taken over while we weren’t looking.
I want my country back, I want to know who runs this place, and I want restoration of honour, integrity and honesty at all levels of local and national government. I want the state out of every day family life. I don’t want to have to spend the rest of my life keeping my family sufficiently under the radar to avoid the worst of the insanity, it’s hard work and expensive.
Very well said. Only 4 upticks? I wanted to give you 4000.
We can issue anyone we know who is in authority and involved with this crime against humanity with a notice of liability. Templates available online. It’s free, it forces them to acknowledge their criminality and it might make them open their eyes. And when the reckoning finally comes, which it will, it makes them culpable and unable to argue that they weren’t aware of the harm they were doing.
We have a government that is prepared to kill children to avoid having its policies called into question. This is – I would argue – even worse than some of the notorious fascist governments in the past century.
i think we are f**** !.
They will end up in prison. We need to be sure of this. We’re talking about a handful of criminals and an organised crime ring. They’re not superheroes and they are also opportunistic fuckwits who are all heavily compromised. What will be harder will be what to do with the zealots who carried out the programme (medical staff, police, politicians etc). That’s why serving them with notices of liability are a good idea at this point.
Now, after we have realised that certain named people have killed many of our population, should we not kill them? I mean we just murder them in justice. Let’s name them now on this site.
Er, unlawful. Criminal. We don’t do murder. They do.
He’s probably a Lance Corporal in 77 Brigade.
Yep, I don’t recognise the name
There must be a lot of people who think they will be among the chosen few, including their families, extended family, friends. They think they will not be touched by their compliance.
Why don’t the legal profession fight for a Liability Clause, they have families too.
You would think that as there have been precisely ZERO deaths in healthy children and more than zero deaths from the vaccine, this would wake up more members of the public. Sadly that doesn’t appear to be the case.
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but Kate Silverton (BBC Newsreader no less **) has tweeted this:
My Question: How can we know it is ‘safe and effective’ for children when there is no long term safety data ? UK approves Pfizer jab for use in 12-15-year-olds
https://twitter.com/katesilverton/status/1400758391631384577
** At least I think she’s still with the BBC. I haven’t watched BBC News since about 2016.
A lot of sceptical replies to the comment on there which is encouraging. Some of the nay sayers sound like plants. Someone with username ‘Serena’ keeps putting repetitive replies accusing people of getting info from Facebook and not trusting experts. Not convincing at all in my opinion!
This was posted earlier by Katherine Huwig on the Understanding Covid Stats Page Ohio. I haven’t had much time to go in-depth into this yet (and would welcome thoughts) – but even the studies they’re discusising are… well there are no words. I can’t post the screenshot of the email in question but you can find it through the FOI release.
“Sometimes it’s in the empty spaces where most meaning sits. Most people have been slicing away at the whole and complete emails from Dr. Fauci’s email FOIA release. And, admittedly, some of those intact emails are highly satisfying to read.
But what is far more interesting are the pages of greyed out redactions. Consider pages 1567-1572 from his emails. They are of his correspondence with Dr. Kenneth Bergmann, Senior Medical Officer in the Division of Neurology in the Center for Drug Evaluation and Research at the FDA that took place between April 4th – April 15th, 2020.
At first glance, they are frustratingly empty, and completely redacted except for the exceptionally intriguing subject line of “a thought on selective vulnerability to SARS-CoV-2” – something we all want to know about! Why would it be redacted? How in the world does such an important discussion get redacted? What was his theory that Dr. Fauci thought enough of that he said he had considered it and to then forward on to his assistant to follow up on?!
Infuriating!!
BUT
Sometimes….Just sometimes….We get lucky. Someone doesn’t do their job quite perfectly, and some breadcrumbs slip through the cracks. Please see the attached image (on page 1570) where the redactor missed the names of the attached documents in the forwarded email that Dr. Bergmann was referring to.
Whoops!
So we have some names of documents – already the names are highly intriguing. But the documents themselves make even more staggering reading. Specifically the following two:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMoa063842… and https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6077196/
I believe Dr. Bergmann’s argument was that young children fight off SARS-CoV-2 with extreme efficiency because of the dominance of natural killer cells (NK) of their innate immune systems. While the activation of the adaptive immune system in adults can lead to an inappropriate and extremely dangerous inflammatory cytokine storm when faced with a similar threat.
In other words, the NK cells of the innate immune system are highly effective, while man-made (monoclonal) antibodies can create a highly destructive inflammatory response.
Paging Dr. Vand3n Bøssche – I believe you are owed an apology.”
So, does that also mean the last 70+ years of messing with infant immune systems is, at best, nugatory, and at worst damaging if not potentially deadly.
As one would expect, nature and evolution have ensured that the biological systems are designed to be effective, given the right support via nutrition, maternal transfer of immunity and adequate care. Tinker with them at your peril.
Corrupt from top to bottom.
Nearly all current cases are between 10 and 19, which is why the admissions and deaths are low. There is the motivation to vaccinate them.
It is interesting that in my local area, cases suddenly shot up. A friend tells me that a load of youngsters who drink in a local pub have all been pinged by track and trace and that could well account for the increase.
Who cares if young people are a “case” when they are not getting seriously ill? This is just a nonsense and an excuse to vaccinate everyone which has been the intention all along.
The MHRA quite obviously have not reviewed the data, see the latest breaking news from Canada:
Canadian immunologist Dr. Byram Bridle is a pro-vaccine scientist with a serious concern about the COVID-19 vaccines, and in an interview, said that new research shows “we made a big mistake” with the mRNA spike protein vaccines.
We didn’t realize it until now,” Bridle said. “We thought the spike protein was a great target antigen; we never knew the spike protein itself was a toxin and was a pathogenic protein. So, by vaccinating people we are inadvertently inoculating them with a toxin.”
It’s a toxin that can cause cardiovascular damage and infertility, he added.
As an associate professor on viral immunology at the University of Guelph, Bridle is not an outsider looking in: He was awarded a $230,000 government grant for research on COVID vaccine development. And, after looking at the data, he concluded that the spike protein does not just sit in the shoulder muscle where it’s injected, but travels to the body’s organs, including the liver, as well as the spleen, bone marrow, adrenal glands and in “quite high concentrations” in the ovaries.
Lab animals injected with the spike protein developed cardiovascular problems and “Now, we have clear-cut evidence that the vaccines that make the cells in our deltoid muscles manufacture this protein — that the vaccine itself, plus the protein — gets into blood circulation,” Bridle said. “What has been discovered by the scientific community is the spike protein on its own is almost entirely responsible for the damage to the cardiovascular system, if it gets into circulation.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sis1Sddzbqk
https://twitter.com/i/status/1398367017258962944
These people need to find themselves in court for breaking the Nuremberg code and crimes against humanity.
Lockdown Sceptics slowly morphing into mainstream media..
Looking more like and sounding more like the Torygraph each day..
There’ll be articles soon about how Michael Curzon or Toby Dung won’t have guests to dinner parties unless they are euthan.. I mean vaccinated.. and their babies are sterilise.. I mean vaccinated.
We even have the take a PCR test advert on the site for days now.
I’m ok with the test advert. I’m not going to get vaccinated until I am 85 or older at least, so if I have to travel, I’ll be needing a cheap PCR for the foreseeable. As pointless as it is….just being pragmatic.
In my family not one of us has been tested, wore a mask, been track and traced, and certainly not ‘vaccinated’ . We’ve decided to forego travel until the leaders of this murderous death cult have been arrested and brought to justice! Their downfall is inevitable so it’s just a question of sitting it out.. realised early into the coup that I wouldn’t be travelling for a long time..
“It’s benefits outweigh the risks”! What risk are kids actually facing? Nada! What benefits? Protecting older people? Who have probably sold out to the government already and taken “the jab” anyway. This is purely totalitarian insanity.
Medicine is littered with good ideas and interventions which in the long term prove harmful. The epidemiologists and Public Heath along with SAGE are mainly Arts Graduates,Mathematicians or non practicing academics -grossly unsuited to making a decision to vaccinate a child with a background of their clinical experience.To demand or even suggest vaccination in Children who have no choice to refuse is Orwellian. Any parent must consider carefully as to how they would feel if their child developed a reaction. Would they accept it was just a coincidence or feel guilty. We asked children to sacrifice their freedom and education to “save granny” it is now up to the generations of Grannies to sacrifice their perceived risk by saving the children and stopping the Education Unions and Government promoting vaccination in Children.
I don’t think their educational background is relevant. Many leaders in the past were highly educated in the humanities and yet would have resisted this from the start.
“The benefits of this vaccine outweigh any risk,” said Dr June Raine. So who benefits from injecting children with an EXPERIMENTAL genetic therapy with no guarantee of efficacy, or long term safety. IMHO it certainly ain’t the children!
This is so evil it actually makes me feel sick. How can it be allowed? Unbelievable! It is screaming CHILD ABUSE
Fortunately, both my children are adults.
However, had they still been minors there is no way that I would consent to this Government and its scientific advisers practicing Nazi-style eugenics on them.
Vaccinating children is absolute nonsense, not to say criminal.