Lord Jonathan Sumption in the Telegraph delivers a blistering attack on SAGE’s “garbage Covid models” and the ever-changing position of the goalposts for exiting lockdown.
The modellers have been at it again. The modelling committee of SAGE (which goes by the unlovely name of SPI-M-O) has produced a report projecting the consequences of ending restrictions in accordance with the Government’s Covid Roadmap. The projection which has attracted the most attention, and was surely designed to, is that on “pessimistic but plausible” assumptions there will be a third wave in the summer if the restrictions are eased, leading to hospitalisations as bad as at the January peak.
Does that seem odd? It should. The January peak reflected the situation before vaccinations took effect. So we are being told that it is “plausible” to think that the vaccines may make little difference to hospitalisations.
When Imperial College produced its modelling report last March, which pushed the Government into the first lockdown, they pointed out that unless restrictions were kept in place until there was a vaccine, infections and associated hospitalisations and deaths would simply surge again once the restrictions were lifted.
The goalposts are now being shifted. We are being told that the restrictions may have to be kept in place even though there are now highly effective vaccines. Hospitalisations and deaths are at rock bottom. Almost all of the more vulnerable groups have been vaccinated. Even accounting for the MHRA’s changed advice regarding the AstraZeneca vaccine, a high proportion of the rest will have been inoculated by June. If the vaccine is not an exit route, then what is? The logic of the modellers’ more extreme projections is that the restrictions may have to stay in place indefinitely.
Matt Hancock seemed to shift the goalposts again on Monday, saying that freedom could be reclaimed through weekly mass testing (rather than through the vaccination programme).
Lord Sumption says that part of the cause of the continued Covid madness is a blame game between Government ministers and scientific advisors.
What seems to be going on is that everyone is covering their backs. Ministers want to pass the buck to the scientists. They want to be able to say “what a triumph for our policies” if things turn out fine; and “we followed the science” if they turn out badly. The scientists don’t like being made to carry the can for what is basically a political judgment. They want to be able to say “these were only scenarios, not predictions” if things turn out fine; and “we told you so” if they turn out badly. Each group is trying to manipulate the other. Balanced assessments based on actual evidence are sadly missing.
There are more important things at stake than the reputation of ministers or their advisers. Human beings are social animals. Interaction with other people is not a luxury. It is a basic human need. It is also the foundation of our mental health, our social organisation, our leisure activities and our economy.
There is a breed of public health officials who are indifferent to these things. They have never reflected, at any rate in public, on what makes life worth living. As far as they are concerned, human beings are just instruments of government health policy. They will be lining up to tell us that it is dangerous to return to normal life because we cannot be absolutely sure that normal life will be risk-free. They will quote the gloomier speculations of modellers as evidence of what “might” happen if the Government stops treating us like caged animals or inert specimens in some ghastly sociological laboratory.
The Government must now make up its mind whether the vaccines are effective in reducing hospitalisations and deaths, or not. If they are effective, then the restrictions on our lives are unnecessary and should be lifted. If they are not effective, then they should still be lifted, because in that case we are going to have to live with periodic surges of Covid, for the only alternative is to prolong the current assault on our humanity indefinitely.
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Surely Lord Sumption is in a position to launch a lawsuit against the government. There has to be a legal route by which this out of control government can be stopped.
I had always (perhaps naively) assumed their are some rights that cannot be voted away, regardless of what Parliament decides.
It’s like Tony Blair’s wet dream coming to fruition…under a ‘Conservative’ government.
You need deep pockets and the Government will spin things out .
You also need honourable judges – a problem which Simon Dolan failed to circumvent!
Whitty, Hancock, Ferguson and Vallance are being prosecuted in the private criminal courts for pandemic fraud, by real opposition to this. You haven’t heard about this because none of the controlled opposition outlets in the British media (including this website) will cover it, because they only serve one true master. This case is possibly the most important thing happening in this country right now, but it receoved no coverage. Funny that.
https://www.thebernician.net/papers-laid-alleging-pandemic-fraud-against-hancock-whitty-vallance-ferguson/
Lord Sumption is clearly controlled opposition. Anyone who claims to to be on the right side of this argument, who takes the mRNA vaccine, which renders them a genetically modified human (not a real human anymore, made by God, but a modified product) whose bodily integrity has been signed over to one of the criminal pharma companies profiting and creating from this evil, is a fraud who clearly lacks the real belief and integrity to be legit opposition. If you want this to end, people signing up for the poison will not be the ones who get you there.
The BBC does not allow real dissenting voices, just those they know they can rely on to keep schtum about the real issues like the fact that taking one of these experimental vaccines is seriously dangerous and stupid. This idiot rolled his sleeve up and took the poison, so who cares what he thinks? He is part of the problem, not the solution. If he had anything useful to bring to the table, he would have done so by now. Where is the Lord Sumption legal challenge to the government’s clear-cut criminality? Why isn’t he forming groups with other powerful figures to mount a real challenge to this terrorism we are being forced to endure? Nowhere to be seen, never to be seen. Solutions he will never provide.
Expecting to find solutions from these controlled opposition, Establishment stooges (Hitchens is another one), is pointless and it’s what these rats want us doing, chasing the bait the put out for us like stupid dogs chasing their own tail, getting nowhere fast.
I listened to the interview in the link – is there any update on progress?
Dream on. The problem isn’t such conspiracies as ‘controlled opposition’ – it’s the simple fact that the British ‘constitution’ doesn’t present a viable legal basis for such a prosecution.
Occam!
The folk running this case think otherwise:
PCP Papers Laid Alleging Pandemic Fraud Against Hancock, Whitty, Vallance & Ferguson
https://www.thebernician.net/papers-laid-alleging-pandemic-fraud-against-hancock-whitty-vallance-ferguson/
My understanding of the Dolan case was that it did have some legal legs – and Sumption said this pretty clearly. The problem is that because the constitution in this area is a bit vague and based on precedent, it relies on honest judges interpreting the law honestly. A clearer written constitution may have given them less wiggle room, though it has to be said many countries have clearer written constitutions than ours and they also succumbed. Ultimately one relies on checks and balances (media, judiciary, opposition, and finally the people) to prevent the worst excesses, and sadly in this case all the checks failed because of a perfect storm of circumstances.
We were in an almost similar situation constitutionally re Brexit – until Gina Miller took government to court – never been done before, no precedent existed etc etc. The only significant difference was we weren’t in a state of government proclaimed emergency and the courts were keen to get involved and influence the outcome. In the corona case the courts have signalled with almost every legal challenge that they don’t want to get involved. The same situation could arise re the Bernician private prosecution, and all his year long work could be for nothing if the courts decide not to deal with it.
Unfortunately you are spot on. The courts just don’t want to know. Worse the government influences which judge presides. They have chosen specific individuals from the ‘family law’ pool who are known to be ‘arse lickers’.
I think terrorism is illegal. This is an avenue which should be explored.
Quite right about the vaccination issue. This issue reveals which side people are on. If the push the vaccine and vaccine passports, then they are on team evil. It is the acid test by which to judge people.
Yep. Ditto “journalists” and public figures who are/were involved in the 9/11 and 7/7 coverups (that’s the entirety of the British “media”, bar none). All my adult life I have been witness to the fact that the media and government conspire to hide true information from the public, to conceal their true nature (criminals), to brainwash them into accepting change which always means less freedom, because of perceived threats that they create. False flag terrorism which leads to “new normals”. It is a non-stop, perpetual process. The Mencken phrase about hobgoblins springs to mind. Corona is a continuation of that and the same good-for-nothings in the media are doing the same coverup job on the true information, leading the duped masses into the abyss of tyranny.
Following the 9/11 false flag and the anthrax attacks (the anthrax attacks could only have come from inside yet was still cynically and disingenuosly blamed on Mohammed Atta), which were used as proof of Saddam’s WMDs (Neocon lies, the seeds of which were planted long before 9/11 like this little gem from William Kristol and Robert Kagan in the NY Times 1998 “Bombing Iraq Isn’t Enough” https://www.nytimes.com/1998/01/30/opinion/bombing-iraq-isn-t-enough.html ) they started a series of illegal wars of aggression, which had no moral or legal basis. Nothing to do with this of course. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm
This time the Corona fraud has led to them waging war on Western populations, and again, just as with 9/11 and the illegal wars, it’s a bunch of criminals with an apparently free licence to tell lies, commit fraud, abuse their power and cause nothing but devastation and destruction in the process. All cheered on by the dupes who allow themselves to be brainwashed by these demons, despite their proven history of being nothing but amoral liars.
“Global infection fatality rate is 0.15‐0.20% (0.03‐0.04% in those <70 years)” Prof Dr John Ioannidis
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/eci.13423
This statement alone renders the whole Covid operation completely needless, fraudulent and criminal, because so much harm has been created because of it for no justifiable reason. Any measures taken in its name are based on the fraudulent notion that these measures are justified and proportionate because the disease is such a threat. This is a total lie. It is fraud, it is criminal, it is immoral and I pray from the bottom of my heart that these criminals end up having their misdeeds analysed in court, with appropriate sentences that are truly proportionate to the scale of harm they have caused, which is the kind of harm that a war would create.
They have run this whole scam by guilt-tripping people into believing they are diseased, granny-killing Corona spreaders. Then they put “DO NOT RESUSCITATE” orders on those very same grannies and people deemed not worthy of life, the ones they say they are trying to “save” by introducing all these measures. Then 31 million morons get the jab anyway, and put all their faith and now actual health (ticking time bomb mRNA injections) into the hands of these demons who are purposefully inverting their world into something which is Orwellian and evil and an insult to the potential of the human race. Just think of all the good work you could do with all the money they have stolen to pump into this scam……..and people still vote for them?
Parliament is the highest court in the land.
The law is subservient to Parliament in the U.K – as it should be.
We’re not American – at the courts every ten seconds.
Lobby your MP – politely
Pointless to lobby my MP politely. Never does a thing. As far as I can tell that applies to nearly every other one as well. At the moment the only way out of this is to fight our way out and we don’t have the numbers.
We will do once it warms up a bit and the sun comes out.
Our rightly disparaged government was lucky that Easter was so chilly.
It can work. My MP was always spouting the party line until I sent him the HART paper. Now he is voting against vaccine passports. One small step at a time!
Well this is true but it’s also true that laws should be compatible and consistent with one another, and with the constitution. If Parliament wants to remove basic freedoms it should do so explicitly. My preference is for a political solution, but at this stage any checks and balances that can be called upon are fair game.
I’ve been lobbying my MP, politely.
It’s going to be a long, hard slog.
I still think some friendly billionaires getting together and funding a huge anti-lockdown campaign would make a big difference. Absent that, one chips away as best one can, on many fronts.
“The law is subservient to Parliament in the U.K”
Yes, and no. Surely you don’t agree that parliament could vote to have the 2nd born in every family euthanised? Of course not.
I’m not trying to be flippant. My point is, I can’t believe that parliament is effectively God, in that whatever it votes in can, in fact, become law regardless of the content of those laws.
It seems to me, there are basic human rights being violated by the government; ones it does not have the authority to supercede.
“Lobby your MP – politely” – I’ve done that a few times, and will continue to do so, as events develop.
My MP would obey if he were told to vote for putting the unvaxxed in concentration camps, followed by deportation and the gas chamber. It wouldn’t trouble his conscience because he hasn’t got one.
Same scenario with mine. Does as he is told by party leader (he is a millionaire conservative).
I think that represents most MPs, depressingly.
However, most don’t want to lose their cushy £80+ p/a ‘jobs’, so you don’t have to appeal to non-existent morals, just, “Hey, sort your whatsit out, or you’re out the door!”
Stated politely, of course.
“Yes, and no. Surely you don’t agree that parliament could vote to have the 2nd born in every family euthanised? Of course not.”
Parliament could, and has done very similar things in the past. The Commonwealth era was not a happy one for example.
You would hope at that point that people would rise up to stop it. You’ll note however that with the existing restrictions they have not.
There is no mechanism within the UK constitution to use courts to override anything and there is no higher law. We left the EU to prove that point. So called “human rights” come only at the command of parliament in the UK.
We expect, and demand, parliament is sensible in its use of its sovereign power. But sovereign power it has.
Whether we like it or not, the current restrictions are the general will of the people. It is them we have to persuade, not the courts.
Parliament has sovereign power but it is not above the law – it needs to amend the law first, in a way that is clear and consistent with other laws. And someone needs to determine if they have done this. I think they have not, the courts disagreed. The Miller case went against the government, the Dolan case did not. Different circumstances and pressures and agenda, but same principles involved.
As to the restrictions being the will of the people, that is increasingly less true and that will was manufactured through the abuse of govt power to create fear, and by more or less blatant lying. Treason, or at the least misfeasance in public office
“Parliament could, and has done very similar things in the past. The Commonwealth era was not a happy one for example.”
The Commonwealth era notwithstanding as it’s hardly relevant (I’d like to see examples comparable with euthanising all 2nd born children in the UK), we do have examples of the government losing court cases and being forced to respond accordingly (Gina Miller), and that was over technicalities during Brexit.
I’m not saying your wrong, but I would need pretty compelling evidence that whatever gets voted through, goes. End of story.
“Whether we like it or not, the current restrictions are the general will of the people.”
No, they are not. There was no mandate given at the last election for these measures, for obvious reasons, of course. But I think you need to do more work to demonstrate every and all actions taken by an elected UK government are the “general will of the people”.
But maybe I’m wrong.
rise up? haha, yeah right… I think people have grown too acustomed to the good life.
Under our unwritten constitution everything working “normally” depends on an intricate system of checks and balances. Unfortunately, our unwritten constitution wasn’t designed for the kind of Cromwellian situation we now find ourselves in where the government has abrogated to itself the kind of law making powers, almost by ministerial decree, which it has done under the Coronavirus Act, and in the absence of evidence to the contrary, it appears that the judiciary is not a independent as a lot of people would like to think it is.
I always thought that, under common law, if a law is considered to be bad, it can be struck down. By whom may be the problem.
Simon Dolan tried that, and the judge essentially threw his case out. Said the emergency powers were necessary.
What’s been omitted from the Lockdown narrative is that Bill Gates personally telephoned numerous heads of state, as did one Anthony Charles Lynton Blair all pimping the immediate lockdown policy.
For which Blair’s Institute for Global Change was paid handsomely, by guess who?
https://twitter.com/DamoPelham3/status/1376712555385614337
Excellent point. Bill Gates huge influence and money involvement in this whole situation, is being massively side stepped by MSM.
And who is mainstream media’s gate-keeper?
https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php
“…and found more than $250 million going toward journalism. Recipients included news operations like the BBC, NBC, Al Jazeera, ProPublica, National Journal, The Guardian, Univision, Medium, the Financial Times, The Atlantic, the Texas Tribune, Gannett, Washington Monthly, Le Monde, and the Center for Investigative Reporting…”
Impfstoffe macht frei
You’re either with them, or they will most definitely be set against you…
The cartoon, though negative about “anti-vaxxers” does perhaps unwittingly suggest the vaxxers are governed by fear.
Indeed Waldorf
The cartoon, like the BBC’s propaganda drama dept depicts anti-vaxxers as unhealthy, low grade conspiracy nuts, where as if you’ve got your vaccine shot date you’ve won the lottery!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq2-afpHVCw
[Infowars is exactly what it is]
What annoys me hugely about this cartoon is that ONCE AGAIN, in spite of the pharmaceutical companies, the government and the NHS saying that the vaccine will not stop you from getting Covid and may not prevent you from passing it on, the same old narrative is being pushed out implying that these vaccines are just like other vaccines and prevent transmission.
@Galene 77 I think they’re mainly into group think with a bit of fear thrown in.
If the behavioral psychologists linked to SAGE and Gates helped shape Bojos govt strategy on mass vaccination, then in what other ongoing agenda’s may they be involved in?
Some good news…Daniel Miller delivers a zeitgeist tour de force!
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/a-very-convenient-pandemic/
Bravo
We should call him Bill Mengele & Blair as his Goebbels , what a pair of dangerous Shysters !!!
yip https://videopress.com/v/GlfqskjO
Asking this question wrongly implies that the government is looking for an exit route from lockdown…
Good point
Sorry Lord Sumption but you are completely wrong.
The January peak reflected the situation before the standard seasonal variations in viruses took place, which is why they were administered at that time. The unlicensed medical experiments masquerading as vaccinations played no part in it whatsoever, a fact that will probably be born out this winter, although at that time they will be able to lay blame not only on those who refused to wear masks etc, but also on those who refused to be genetically modified.
Cunning plan eh Mr Blackadder?
Precisely, Old Bill. All anyone with a pair of eyes and something moderately useful between the ears needs to do is to look at the similarity between the April and the January spikes. A timing shift for particular reasons – but basically a curve that is entirely recognisable.
The decline also reflects the change in WHO policy around PCR tests. They said that PCR needed a second test to confirm an asymptomatic case and that the Cycle Threshold should be limited and lo and behold, the cases dropped. Also the government brought much more lateral flow tests into the mix, which have a far lower positive rate to PCR.
Combine that with the natural flow of the curve as you say, you can easily manipulate the numbers. It’s child’s play, in fact. The memo was released on January 13th and immediately the cases plummeted:
https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/26/coronavirus-fact-check-10-why-new-cases-are-plummeting/
“There are more important things at stake than the reputation of ministers or their advisers”
just read this and weep – something a sports/youth club reported to funders in a poor area in a northern city from their last year experience of lockdown – the madness of a policy to fight a virus that mostly doesn’t kill the young. Our humanity has been reduced to nothing. Churches closed, population cowed. I’m not a follower of conspiracy theories but I do think our ‘civilisation’ is threatened. And the next generations to come – the young and the children will never be able to fully respond without residual fear again. Unforgiveable.
“Within the cohort the closure of the sports facilities had a big impact . Some turned to drugs and alcohol as a coping mechanism . Some became involved in criminal behaviour, others engaged in risky behaviour . When the facilities reopened they did return gradually however appearances that had once been bright and tidy were dishevelled, grey and confused, attitudes that were enthusiastic were subdued and the self assuredness that some were developing was replaced by a sort of paranoia……. almost starting at square one again
The impact on our younger generations is monstrous.
It’s not a conspiracy theory when it’s happening before your eyes! It’s not a conspiracy theory when they are attempting to inject you with toxic untested chemicals. Give me strength. It’s happening! And they will blame the non-vaccinated and the non-maskers next winter. THAT is the plan even though the mRNA has a very good chance of stimulating your immune system to attack it’s own body and organs because it has detected vital proteins there. Wonder how many people who have accepted this gene therapy with alacrity were against GMO foods.
But everyone I have spoken to who has had the gene-based interventions had no idea that it was an experimental unlicensed, barely tested drug they were being injected with, that was still in the trial stage, and for which no medium to long term data exists. Hardly informed consent. Points I raised in a letter to my doctor when I wrote explaining why I would not be accepting their repeated letters and texts insisting I accept my numerous invitations.
I’ve found the same , people I thought of as sturdy characters have folded and got the needle ! Also it’s not hard to see that every aspect of Western Christian ( I’m not religious but I’m Christened CofE & proud of it ) Civilisation is under attack by people that we all voted into power ! Trudeau ( one of the worst) Toothy in NZ , The Turk , in UK, Krankie & Drakeface , Daniel Andrew’s , + Biden , probably not voted in but there still the same with his dementia ( no not the chuckling no brain Harris ) his condition ! God help us
Depressing…
Lord Sumption is playing by the wrong rules. It is becoming more and more apparent that this is just a show to get us to accept vaccine passports and to take medicine that we dont need. What is it not and what it has never been is anything to do with coming out of lockdown. We have known for a long time that lockdowns dont reduce covid deaths. Hancock, Johnson, Sage, Imperial College, they all know it too.
Knowing this fact makes it easy to see what the real reason for the lockdown is, and it is a disturbing reason that we dont want to admit to ourselves. Depopulation and Genocide.
There are some fighting back for sure. Stopping the AZ vaccine was a good move, it highlights the evil of coercing vaccinations via the vaccine passport. Texas and Florida have shown us that it is possible to go back to normal with little to no cost. No doubt the forces of evil will try and raise the case numbers in those states by hook or by crook, but it will take away their resources from elsewhere.
We are in a fight for our lives here, literally. I am not sure whether Lord Sumption is really fighting the correct battle.
I don’t see anything wrong in calling the government out on their lack of consistency. I don’t think it matters too much at this stage what the govts precise underlying motives and thinking are. Their ability to pursue their agenda rests on the pretence that we are threatened by a medical emergency and that this is what drives their actions. The more this pretence is discredited, the less able they are to act without consequences to them.
Don’t write him off , he’s on our side , he’s knocking on a bit & the virus propaganda has been immense so he probably hedged his subconscious bets had the jab then carried on his opposition to the Lockdown shitshow !
The “vaccine” doesn’t even prevent transmission. It was always a massive government boondoggle and the only purpose of it is to bring in a digital identity based “social credit” system.
You want an exit route? Just keep yourself nice and fit and healthy over the summer – getting plenty of Vitamin D in the sun, take Ivermectin if you’re vulnerable and start to feel ill and switch off the BBC. We go back to normal when we want to, not when the government tells us we have to.
Can’t say we weren’t warned.
This from last September when all we were supposed to worry about was whether it would all be over by Xmas.
Ancient Chinese saying – qi hu nan xia. Who rides on a tiger can never dismount.
https://www.spiked-online.com/podcast-episode/lockdown-is-an-assault-on-our-humanity/
the exit strategy never was the vaccine… the exit is having the vaccine passport and related infraestructure in place. The testing ensures that positives come in to justify continuing the lockdown.. this will go on and on until govt can proceed with what they really want… we are hostages
The only thing this corrupt bunch of psychopaths can be relied upon to do is keep moving the goalposts, massaging the data, and keeping the psy-op going until they get what they want.
‘Politely lobbying’ your MP is a total waste of time and buys into the fallacy that they are willing or even able to make any meaningful changes.
Mass civil disobedience is going to be our only way out of this.
See you on the 24th
It’s going to be eventful !
It is quite funny that sellouts like Sumption and Hitchens thought they could go off on their jollidays with their “vaccine passports” while the nation languishes under house arrest.
Soon they’ll find out that the vaccine doesn’t stop them from transmitting the virus and they’re still under the restrictions but they’ve submitted themselves to a genetic experiment.
I thought people like them at least had the sense to know when they’re being conned. I guess being a Supreme Court judge doesn’t count for much these days.
Exactly.I have no sympathy at all for Sumption,who is a useful idiot, who has been conned by the vaccine.He was more useful earlier when he entered into a discussion about liberties and Law.He is no climbing into the debate of possible resurging wave and herd immunity.He is doing it only because, like so many, he thought vaccines was an easy way out of this mess.Like so many Spectator Tories and P Hitchens they are suddenly disappointed.
It is quite possible that the vaccines will be useless in the summer.They were never tested in the elderly and it is quite a reasonable assumption, in a worst case scenario, they will not give any protection at all in the summer amongst those most in need.Some studies even in Israeli young HCWs show a substantial drop after 3 months. In a way assuming no protection in the high risk group in the summer is fully plausible.
It is another thing to say that we have reached herd immunity and seasonal factors would exclude a summer scenario and more a winter scenario (which even more likely would have zero immunity in the high risk groups vaccinated).
Vaccines were never a solution of this mess when it was introduced in an ongoing pandemic curve on the way up.Many would have thought that, as for flu vaccines, introducing them before the next seasonal surge would be more appropiate,if not emerging mutations renedered them ineffective.
No,Lord Sumption,Fraser Nelson,Peter Hitchens,you have all been fooled and I find it amusing that you know start to moan.Vaccines were not the solution but rather part of the problem in the disastrous handling of this pandemic where Big Pharma is in charge and not Public Health.Attack this instead of pretending to be pseudoepidemilogists just because it suits your disappointment.
Has Sumption had it ? Ffs !
Letting the truth slip:
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/vaccine-third-wave-coronavirus-modelling-20328025
“UK’s top modelling body gives detailed projection of third coronavirus spike as restrictions are lifted
Most people hospitalised in the third wave are expected to have received two doses of a vaccine”
So the vaccine doesn’t work then does it?
How can a vaccine be simultaneously safe and effective whilst also being dangerous and useless? How is this our lives?!
Indeed. Rather like the virus ‘not duscriminating’ and being absolutely deadly to all, whilst at least a third of people are asymptomatic. It’s so deadly that you don’t even know you’ve got it before you die of it. Having killed all the grannies with it first. Even though the grannies are all vaccinated, with a vaccine that’s brilliant and which everyone should have. Except we’ll still have a 97th wave of sadly deaths despite the brilliant vaccine.
If it wasn’t so awful, it would be funny.
It may or may not work but the kind of people dying “with” cv19 according to the official criteria are likely to be going to hospital and dying anyway, of other things. So it doesn’t prove much one way or the other.
If that is a true quote from the report, and not a typo on the part of WalesOnline, then that is the most nonsensical, anomalous statement I’ve heard since the start of the pandemic. It may simply be alluding to the fact that because most people will have received two doses by then, therefore amongst those admitted to hospital the majority will therefore have received two doses.
But that would be true even if the hospitalization rate was low. If hospital occupancy is X and the vaccine uptake is say 90%, then for there to be large enough numbers in hospital to call it a “spike”, then X cannot purely be made up of the remaining unvaccinated 10%. There must also be some vaccinated people in hospital. But this report would suggest that the MAJORITY of X would be from the 90%. Hence worthless vaccination programme!
It’s no typo; the paper says, “The resurgence in both hospitalisations and deaths is dominated by those that have received two doses of the vaccine, comprising around 60% and 70% of the wave respectively. This can be attributed to the high levels of uptake in the most at-risk age groups, such that immunisation failures account for more serious illness than unvaccinated individuals.”
So the vaccination program is worthless!
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/975909/S1182_SPI-M-O_Summary_of_modelling_of_easing_roadmap_step_2_restrictions.pdf
“Most people hospitalised in the third wave are expected to have received two doses of a vaccine”
Do they mean that the majority of the country will have had two jabs, so it simply follows that those who will be admitted to hospital will not have CV19, but will have other conditions needing treatment?
Or do they mean that if even if they’ve had two jabs, they’ll sit get CV19 and end up in hospital??
or end up in hospital and get cov19 in that setting as that is where the bulk of the transmission is – in the NHS which this was all supposed to be about saving.
Wow. So the third wave they are projecting, for this Summer (wt???), contains a high level of death, mainly people who have taken both doses of the genetic modification mRNA injections. They take the injections, their cells undergo a process of genetic modification and start making spike proteins throughout the body but noone really knows where, then a third wave comes and they start dropping like flies. Riiiighhhht.
From the article:
“The paper suggests that the resurgence in both hospitalisations and deaths will dominated by those who have received two doses of the vaccine, comprising around 60% and 70% of the wave respectively.
Worryingly this is working on the assumption that the vaccine protection will not wane or a variant emerging that escapes vaccines.”
Are people being prepped with a cover story for the much anticipated wave of Antibody Dependence Enhancement with this? Dolores Cahill has been very vocal about this. Much of what she says is confirmed in this published paper which says that the risk of ADE is so pronounced that it should have it’s own section of risk acknowledgement forms, so the victims can make an informed decision. The criminals don’t want people making informed decisions, it’s not good for sales and profits, so they skew the information, as opposed to doing the honourable thing and informing the people taking this crap that when they tried this before on animals, quite a high percentage of the animals subsequently died. Little details like this are required to make an informed decision.
Informed consent disclosure to vaccine trial subjects of risk of
COVID-19 vaccines worsening clinical disease
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/ijcp.13795
“Results of the study: COVID-19 vaccines designed to elicit neutralis-
ing antibodies may sensitise vaccine recipients to more severe dis-
ease than if they were not vaccinated. Vaccines for SARS, MERS and
RSV have never been approved, and the data generated in the devel-
opment and testing of these vaccines suggest a serious mechanistic
concern: that vaccines designed empirically using the traditional ap-
proach (consisting of the unmodified or minimally modified corona-
virus viral spike to elicit neutralising antibodies), be they composed
of protein, viral vector, DNA or RNA and irrespective of delivery
method, may worsen COVID-19 disease via antibody-dependent
enhancement (ADE). This risk is sufficiently obscured in clinical trial
protocols and consent forms for ongoing COVID-19 vaccine trials
that adequate patient comprehension of this risk is unlikely to occur,
obviating truly informed consent by subjects in these trials.
Conclusions drawn from the study and clinical implications: The
specific and significant COVID-19 risk of ADE should have been and
should be prominently and independently disclosed to research sub-
jects currently in vaccine trials, as well as those being recruited for
the trials and future patients after vaccine approval, in order to meet
the medical ethics standard of patient comprehension for informed
consent.”
So how can you have a passport system then ! Are we so DUMB nowadays
The most powerful antivaxxers are SAGE and the Government, greatly underestimating vaccine efficacy in order to justify prolonging intrusive restrictions and shifting towards a surveillance/police state.
I think opinion and speculation on vaccines are getting the way a bit here. Let’s state the bleedin’ obvious loud and clear: the modelers are saying that without various arbitrary measures there be a ‘wave’ in the summer. The SUMMER. That’s ridiculous. It’s like saying if we don’t worship the sun gods today, there will be no sun in the sky tomorrow. The virus had already fallen into a seasonal pattern similar to other coronaviruses by LAST summer. It’s blatantly ridiculous.
There is no doubt in my mind that British people have been subjected to the most horrendous and heinous psychological and spiritual attack over the past 12 months, by their own government and SAGE. Those responsible must be held to account and answer to charges of Crimes Against Humanity.
Whatever happened to Keep Calm and Carry On?
Susan Michie !! Check her out !! It’s horrendous
as Mike Hearn (Sue Denim) pointed out in his blog post COVID-19 is guaranteed to never end. Political hacks and Intellectual-Yet-Idiot “experts” would have to aknowledge mistake and that’s not going to happen until something bad happens. It feels like Hayek’s “Road to Serfdom” redux.
Handcock can take a running jump. Many of us ( but sadly, probably not most of us) are fed up to the back teeth of false promises of when we can “get out freedom back” ( probably never, at this rate!). The goalposts constantly move as we near the latest target set by the psychopaths in Downing Street and SAGE. These puppeteers are simply toying with us, blatantly taking the pee. The really sad thing is that too many of our fellow countrymen lap it up with gusto.