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“As a Scientist, the Most Striking Moment was When Whitty and Vallance Stood in Front of a Graph They Knew To Be Wrong”

by Will Jones
24 March 2021 11:27 PM

A senior research scientist for a pharmaceutical company (who wishes to remain anonymous) writes with his thoughts on where we are now.

1. Assumed solutions

As someone who has spent a career in drug R&D, the thing that led me to lockdown scepticism was the realisation that we had moved from evidence-based medicine to one of “assumed effectiveness”. This is where we are today. Lockdowns (and mask wearing) are assumed to work and all arguments as to the effectiveness start from this point. This means that the “evidence for” is constantly overplayed whilst any “evidence against” is dismissed or explained away. This is why the Swedish or Floridian approach needs to be better than lockdown, it is not simply good enough that it had similar outcomes for a lower price. From a medical intervention perspective this is simply lunacy; why would you give your patient a drug with more side effects than an equally effective one with fewer? 

The most striking moment to me as a scientist was when Whitty and Vallance stood in front of a graph they knew to be wrong in order to justify going into the second lockdown. This was the point they lost any shred of credibility.

The real tragedy is that as a result of assumed effectiveness of lockdowns, Government thinking has never moved on and we have learned nothing. What is there to learn when you already have the best solution to the problem?

2. A disease with no symptoms

The dictionary definition of a disease is: a disorder of structure or function in a human, animal, or plant, especially one that produces specific symptoms or that affects a specific location and is not simply a direct result of physical injury. To have a disease is to be ill, yet the most striking feature of COVID-19 is that apparently one in three people can have this disease but be perfectly healthy or, to use the new vernacular, asymptomatic. Perhaps most of us also have an asymptomatic broken leg too? 

3. The Fallen

Lockdowns kill, hurt and maim people. This was captured brilliantly in the “For The Fallen” piece at the start of the year, as it brought home the human misery of lockdowns. The trouble is that none of our leaders seem to care; their world is Covid and Covid is their world. The collateral damage caused by lockdowns is huge both to our health and wealth, and the harm caused will almost certainly end up dwarfing any potential benefits the intervention had on Covid-related mortality. We will have killed the patient to save him.

4. Throwing our young people under the bus

What we have done to our young people in the name of saving lives is scandalous. This is a “trivial disease” to those under 25 and yet they have been asked to shoulder the biggest burden of lockdowns. They have also been shamefully scapegoated. How many lives has lockdown destroyed almost before they have even really started? I am surprised that they have been so tolerant of this (so far), but can only put it down to them being genuinely fearful. As a parent I have seen the impact of this first-hand and I will never forget or forgive the people who have done this.

5. Media sophistry

Because the damage caused by lockdowns is plainly evident to everyone, the only way we can live with it is by employing doublethink i.e., blame the misery on “the virus” or “the disease” or “the pandemic”. No, let’s be clear, the damage to society is due to policy, not a short strand of RNA covered in some proteins and lipids. Of course, the most vocal advocates of lockdowns are often those who are also crying into their decaf, soya lattes about the terrible cost of the “pandemic” to society and the vulnerable.

6. Life in the Virocracy

I’ve come to the opinion that life in the UK today must be a bit like life in Iran under the ayatollahs. We have the religious council (SAGE) who set policy and a compliant government who then enact it. The population is then divided into three basic groups: there are the heretics who need to be suppressed at all costs in case they undermine the authority of the religious council. Then there are the true believers who are given voice to continue to spread the “Good Word”. And finally, there is everyone else, who just do their best to muddle through the lunacy by paying lip service to the required strictures of life, but are quietly getting on with it. Lockdowns have turned many people into lawbreakers as the only real way to survive.

Stop Press: A Lockdown Sceptics reader came across the entry for totalitarianism in the Encyclopaedia Britannica, which is scarily apt for our new “virocracy”:

The totalitarian state pursues some special goal, such as industrialisation or conquest, to the exclusion of all others. All resources are directed toward its attainment, regardless of the cost. Whatever might further the goal is supported; whatever might foil the goal is rejected. This obsession spawns an ideology that explains everything in terms of the goal, rationalising all obstacles that may arise and all forces that may contend with the state. The resulting popular support permits the state the widest latitude of action of any form of government. Any dissent is branded evil, and internal political differences are not permitted. Because pursuit of the goal is the only ideological foundation for the totalitarian state, achievement of the goal can never be acknowledged.

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AnnabelleG
AnnabelleG
4 years ago

Depressing that these two have any say at all – I have no idea at all they can live with themselves –

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A Heretic
A Heretic
4 years ago
Reply to  AnnabelleG

a pair of spineless twats who’ve sold their souls to the devil, may they burn in hell.

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J4mes
J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

A pair of creepy twats who could easily fulfil the role of a terrifying spook standing in the darkest corner of a horror movie…

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Igol
Igol
4 years ago

I have to say the 15 year old who accurately described the Tortoise look alike as a ‘liar’ just made me think ‘out of the mouth of babes’.
And as for his John Prescott like response to the child; well didn’t you just know it was back to the office to think of more ways to punish everyone who bullied him throughout his life.

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Spinneyman
Spinneyman
4 years ago

Whilst the medical science may well be flawed it is Boso and Madcock who make the decisions. It is they who have ignored the economic, social, educational consequences of their decisions. They have to go and the first step is to back any party that refutes lockdowns in the May elections. Spread the word.

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JayBee
JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  Spinneyman

Exactly. It is the job of the politician/executive to weigh the options, consider benefits, harms, risks, rewards etc. an come up with an evaluated, best decision.
It is also their job to react and change course when appropriate or demanded as such.
They didn’t, don’t and won’t ever do either.
It’s zero Covid, Covid only, international ranking tables p*ssing contests only for them.
They have the right character and management knowledge to fill supermarket shelves, at most.

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Tillysmum
Tillysmum
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

It’s nothing to do with zero covid, it’s the Agenda they’re following. UN agenda 21 and 30.

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Janey B
Janey B
4 years ago
Reply to  Tillysmum

Zero covid is a deliberately unobtainable goal. Especially when they continue to use the now thoroughly discredited PCR test to manufacture new “cases” and continue the tyranny.

COVID Restrictions To Remain In Place For Years, Says UK’s Public Health Official

Mary Ramsay, the head of immunisation at Public Health England, said the measures would remain in place while other countries complete their vaccination programs, a process likely to take years.

“People have got used to those lower-level restrictions now, and people can live with them, and the economy can still go on with those less severe restrictions in place,” said Ramsay.

“So I think certainly for a few years, at least until other parts of the world are as well vaccinated as we are, and the numbers have come down everywhere, that is when we may be able to go very gradually back to a more normal situation,” she added.

The doctor said that so long as people continue to be infected, the rules won’t be abolished.

Ramsay’s comments once again highlight the fact that the plan never was to get “back to normal.”

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Ned of the Hills
Ned of the Hills
4 years ago

Most politicians around the world have discovered that stoking up fear is a sort of “virtuous” circle for them. Cause enough panic and people will “cling to nurse” – i.e. the government – if nurse demonstrates she’s coping.

How does “nurse” show she’s coping? – by taking actions that stoke up fear – lockdowns and mask wearing etc.

The latest action to demonstrate the threat is being coped with is a “passport” to go in to a pub! What cares the powerful? Do they go in pubs?

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Ned of the Hills

Bonfire of the Vanities;
burn your non religious books and works of art, your lascivious jewellery and costly vestments; burn your sacrilegious books and Godless Icons; burn the Jews . . . Burn your children . . .”

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Basileus
Basileus
4 years ago
Reply to  Ned of the Hills

Well pubs will certainly be out of bounds for them in the future.

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LMS2
LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

Only if the pub landlords go along with the lunacy.
I’m sure I read yesterday that the Israeli government’s measures to only allow vaccinated people to be allowed in gyms has been abandoned already, as the gyms said it was too onerous to implement.

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Janey B
Janey B
4 years ago
Reply to  LMS2

Perhaps this had something to do with that.

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Peter W
Peter W
4 years ago
Reply to  Janey B

Let’s hope that was the reason.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

All businesses should blacklist all politicians.

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DontPanic
DontPanic
4 years ago

The main problem appears to be the Precautionary Principle and manipulated statistics and predictions. In a similar way whole industries are being closed down in the name of climate change, for which all we have is heavily manipulated and cherry picked data and politicians following the Precautionary Principle. Had computer models been around millennia ago we would never have left our caves or used fire. All life is risk.

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peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  DontPanic

Yes, computers, modelling , social media and internet, have been used to bring about this ‘pandemic nonsense’ . And in exactly the same way they are used to promote the ‘climate emergency’ nonsense. What was hoped to liberate humanity with easy access to knowledge, is now used by totalitarian regimes to repress, re-educate, control and manipulate on a scale previously thought impossible.
The precautionary principle has increasingly been employed to throttle any semblance of individuality from our lives. A life with no risk, is no life at all.

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Janey B
Janey B
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

All of this helped me to see “the Matrix” is real.

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LMS2
LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  DontPanic

That assumes that ameliorating crime change is the real goal. It’s the excuse, just as CV19 is, not the reason.
The reason is to destroy capitalism, as they’ve admitted, to have global socialism to make society “fairer.”
So far it’s served to destroy the lives of citizens whilst making a small number of elites very much richer. Maybe they think that’s fair….

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  LMS2

Their idea of ‘fairness’ is impoverishing us whilst enriching themselves! When are we going to say ENOUGH!

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babsiep
babsiep
4 years ago

I am not (yet) brave enough to go on a protest march as I fear, for the first time in my long life, police violence against me. I will, however, if there is no anti-lockdown candidate standing in the forthcoming local elections, wear something yellow to the polling station ( Stand in the Park colour) and spoil my ballot by writing “Lockdowns Destroy Lives”.

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Janey B
Janey B
4 years ago
Reply to  babsiep

Protest marches aren’t for everyone, but fortunately there are many ways as individuals that we can make a difference. Just being on the right side of history is a great start.

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LMS2
LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  babsiep

The protests at the weekend, bar the one in Bristol, did not have any police violence against the protesters. There were too many protesters this time, and the police were already enough scrutiny after the Sarah Everard vigil fiasco.

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Tillysmum
Tillysmum
4 years ago
Reply to  babsiep

My MP is Neil O’Brien, no chance of persuading him. But he’s not getting my vote next time.

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186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  Tillysmum

Likewise – I have been emailing him for some time requiring his considered opinion on a number of LDS and other blog topics – not replied to any substantively – and his office have gone on record to confirm, and I quote,” He knows lockdowns are difficult and challenging – but it’s proved to ultimately be the only way to bring rising cases, admissions and deaths under control. Toby Young and others have made their positions quite clear on the below website (that we’re very familiar with) and twitter (though some of his tweets have since been deleted) – though Neil takes a different view on how best to bring this virus under control.”

NO’B – how apt – has also said “lockdown sceptics have a lot to answer for”.

So has he, with others whose names will be in the Covid Hall of Shame – perhaps TY can set up this and ask for nominations. Especially as NO’B has “not changed his mind” I learned last week, despite the tide of information making a mockery of the standing of career politicians like him.

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Peter W
Peter W
4 years ago
Reply to  Tillysmum

What a creep he is. At least my MP is just a useless Tory twit but O’Brien is a nasty piece of work.

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marebobowl
marebobowl
4 years ago

What an inspiring article. I immediately wrote to my MP, Simon Jupp, East Devon to request he vote against extension of the coronavirus act. I clearly explained my thoughts and concerns. I I lore everyone to write to their mp today. They represent you, they should be representing your concerns.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
4 years ago
Reply to  marebobowl

I have written to him too, enclosing the HART document. But on the basis on previous correspondence he will support the Government line. Unlike his predecessor he doesn’t have a mind of his own. But for an ex BBC journalist that’s not a surprise!

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DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  marebobowl

Do you ever hear back, my MP went AWOL when this started

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Apache
Apache
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Yes, I get a cut and paste response that demonstrates that my email hasn’t been properly read – probably from a researcher not Emma Hardy herself.

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gina
gina
4 years ago
Reply to  Apache

When that’s happened to me I’ve written to complain and included something pithy in the subject line to the effect that could my MP do his bloody job and read his own mail. So far its worked – apologies and everything. Not that the content has had any effect on his slavish adherence to the party line but at least he’ll never be able to claim he didnt know or that he thought he was doing what people wanted.

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J4mes
J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  gina

I did the same and got a really angry response. Gave me a laugh at least!

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gina
gina
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

rattled is good, no?

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J4mes
J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Mine stopped replying at around Christmas so this time I sent one of those pre-written emails to avoid feeling like I’m wasting my time. Lo behold, he responds, but typically with his own pre-written, copy/paste bollocks.

Madness.

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Jane G
Jane G
4 years ago
Reply to  marebobowl

Have done this several times, most recently last night- keeping me up into the small hours. I’ve also told him that whatever he does, I will see whomever I wish and disregard bad law. I let him believe I still trusted him to act properly,(rather than piss him off) but hold out no real hope. Can’t think why he supports these jokers – he has absolutely no chance of promotion.

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gina
gina
4 years ago
Reply to  Jane G

I’ve just done the same – told my MP to get a grip – this is not the black death, quoted Whittys comments about the virus being mild and hard to find and rounded it off by saying that me and mine, are about embark on our criminal careers. I used the ‘we dont want to but you’ve made us do it’ favoured by lockdownistas. It will be to no avail but made me feel more resolved.

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mojo
mojo
4 years ago
Reply to  marebobowl

I am constantly writing and emailing my MP David Warburton. Somerton and Frome. He never replies. I don’t even get a computer generated acknowledgement to my emails. I have written emails and letters to JRM, John Redwood, Steve Baker and many more. Absolute silence……

John Redwood tweeted today that he was proud of the efficacy of our vaccinations and how they were saving lives so we must stop listening to those who express concern. The sheer ignorance and toe the party line rhetoric is deeply upsetting. He has been in Parliament far too ling I think.

I feel bereft of anyone in the establishment who speaks for my concerns. What happens when we go to vote in 2024. Will it be rigged because there is just no one speaking for the silent majority. Will it be stolen because those in power
don’t want the people taking responsibility for their own lives.

I see no way forward when every single institution and powerful position is filled with blind adherence to a foreign mantra.

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JayBee
JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  mojo

If it was French, he’d be leading the anti-vaxxers.

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jos
jos
4 years ago
Reply to  mojo

You’re right – we’ve had a year with no MPs, no GPs, no religious leaders.. I sometimes imagine they know something we don’t and are all in underground bunkers… But maybe we’re discovering we don’t actually need any of them!

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  marebobowl

My MP asks ‘how high’ when told to jump by her Party.

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186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Not as high as my MP – postcode LE8 – look it up!!

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JohnK
JohnK
4 years ago

A brilliant article. Of course, items 2 & 6 are closely related, to to with the manipulation of our language, along the lines of deliberately re-defining things and exploiting the general public lack of detailed knowledge of many things. I’m not criticising the public – just the so-called experts who are playing the political game. They are no longer delivering a proper service to us, unfortunately.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

I reckon these 2 ‘scientists’ will be off to pastures new soon, the pharma companies are about to sell the vaccines for Profit instead of Cost as per their agreement, the real incentive

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Sweden has Anders Tegnell and we have these 2 clowns

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DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

Employed by WHO for the UK as SAGE when they agreed to use the UK, Brazil and SA as lab rats

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sophie123
sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

I seem to remember AZ’s commitment was that they would not make a profit “during the pandemic” or until July 2021, whichever came sooner.

Amazing how supplies have suddenly dried up a bit. Back online for the summer….

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JustMe
JustMe
4 years ago

And that a ‘case’ = somebody presenting symptoms who needs treatment.

And that in 2020 only 388 people aged under 65 with no underlying health conditions died from Covid-19.

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Lucan Grey
Lucan Grey
4 years ago

“we had moved from evidence-based medicine to one of “assumed effectiveness””

It’s the anchoring effect. The movers advantage.

Get your propaganda in first.

The problem with laissez faire is that it forgets that the other side doesn’t believe in laissez faire.

If you want to maintain freedom you have to constantly teach and explain to people what that means. And that means having control, funding and staffing the education establishments with people on your side so that people learn how to think and assess evidence rationally.

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Janey B
Janey B
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Perhaps the answer is simply to teach critical thinking from primary level. Humanity would be healthier and happier as a result.

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Lucan Grey
Lucan Grey
4 years ago

“As a parent I have seen the impact of this first-hand”

So have I. What’s scary though is how many parents are using their children’s futures as “human shields” to avoid getting the virus themselves.

If we don’t start looking after the young soon, when they get into power as they will it’s very likely they will forget to look after the old. After all, why should they?

The problem is that the current crop of old will be dead by then, and it is those coming up behind that will get it full in the face.

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sophie123
sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

My god, this is so true. I’d be sick 100x before I let my children suffer. I don’t want to die because I want to be there for them, but with my 1 in 55,000 risk, I’m not worried about dying of COVID. Getting in the car is more dangerous.

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enlighteneduk
enlighteneduk
4 years ago

What a brilliant article. The sheer levels this government will go to to maintain compliance through fear, beggars belief, to those of us who see through it, have done even since the start. I wrote a post on Facebook last April 7th, saying that ‘this whole pandemic seems like a massive social experiment’. How right I was.

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Paul B
Paul B
4 years ago
Reply to  enlighteneduk

I think I deleted my facebook around the same time, the virtue hasn’t waivered since then and my gag reflex is quite acute.

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Woodylookalike
Woodylookalike
4 years ago

Also as a scientist of some seniority (Head of Global Medical Affairs for a cancer biotech), my only challenge to an otherwise perfect article is the timing of the most striking moment of the Prof Vallance and Whitty roadshow.

Instead of this equally great choice, in my own hit parade, I plumped for 21st September 2020. This was the day that they provided their ‘scientific briefing’ and refused to take any questions from anyone after providing their pronouncement. They simply provided their graphs and walked off the stage. It’s just a shame that they didn’t keep walking!

I remember it well as it was the same day I was radicalised to the anti-lockdown cause, although I had been moving in that direction for some time before.

I wrote the same day to my MP with the following:

Never in my long scientific experience have I seen, or think I would see, two such eminent scientists take the stage to share their view on such an important issue and not be open to questioning by their scientific peers or, at the very least, the press or MPs for that matter. This simply does not happen either in the scientific community or in a free and open society. 

If Profs Vallance and Whitty are confident that their view is a correct one then they will be open to questioning around it. It would allow them even greater opportunity to explain and provide all necessary evidence to validate their thinking. This is how science works and how a better policy response can be created. 

Without allowing questions, this is not science. Instead, it is pure government PROPAGANDA and must be treated as such. 

You as an opposition MP, or any other MP for that matter, must demand that these government officials are open to questioning if they hold such briefing events. The so-called ‘The Science’ depends on questioning and proper scrutiny. It will be this that will improve our scientific response and ultimately save lives! 

In my most humble opinion, today’s briefing was a truly shocking and dangerous moment for our managment of the pandemic. Please – I encourage you to challenge and question ‘The Science’ as it will make for a better response to the pandemic. Literally, lives depend on it!

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JayBee
JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  Woodylookalike

I was done with those ‘scientists’ when their German equivalent, Lothar Wieler from RKI, stated that the 3 NPIs (hands, space, masks) may never, ever be questioned.
The very definition of being unscientific, of course.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Woodylookalike

A central point – these individuals with massively conflicting background interests and questionable sociopathic personality traits (by definition and observation) are the contradiction of ‘The Science’ in the essential sense of adhering to scientific logic and method.

I have as much faith in them fulfilling the role as I have on anonymous telephone callers asking me for my card details.

I too remember September, and the apocalyptic forecasts – and yet my rough estimate of weekly deaths a month on were more accurate by a factor of about 50.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Woodylookalike

I bet you didn’t receive any response.,

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ogri
ogri
4 years ago
Reply to  Woodylookalike

I saw that presentation, I was convinced they did not believe what they were saying. It was as if they were reading the script for the first time. The question then is, who wrote the script?

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Occamsrazor
Occamsrazor
4 years ago

This articulates exactly how I feel. Thank you.

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mojo
mojo
4 years ago

Dangerous times indeed. Unless those of us who are keeping our heads under the parapet start looking over the parapet, the few true believers will lead us all over the cliff.

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Bunter
Bunter
4 years ago

I thought Will Jones’ piece absolutely hit the nail on the head. Covid is the new religion.
Facemask the new Burkha, Sage the prophets- such a great comparison.

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wantok87
wantok87
4 years ago

How refreshing to find that other scientists are so despondent with the way that data has been so misused. There has been a total absence of rigour, and association has been conflated with causation in publications and the media. Ethics and morality have been discarded with abandon. How is it ethical to vaccinate an under 16 for a disease which will not affect them but with a vaccine which has no data on children and certainly no long term study?
Publications have been fast tracked with113,860 in this last year with Covid in contrast to 9000 for influenza and 34,000 for breast cancer. It should not be forgotten that scientist and institutions measure their success, and obtain grants by publications and previously unknown figures like Vallance and Whitty now have their moment in the sun.
It is sad but many of us hide behind our invented names because of the engendered policy of non conformity with doctrine being considered as heresy.

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JSmith
JSmith
4 years ago

Re. Point number 5: https://imgflip.com/i/532r4c

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AHotston
AHotston
4 years ago
  1. A disease with no symptoms: Will Jones’s argument that asymptomatic is “new vernacular” is easily disproven by two words; “Typhoid Mary”. I realise that the asymptomatic cases may be a result of the testing process, and that the evidence for asymptomatic infection is very thin, but the concept cannot simply be dismissed. He is being as sloppy as Whitty and Vallance on this point.
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Janey B
Janey B
4 years ago

Great article, especially the analogy of SAGE as the “religious council”. SAGE also has conflicts of interest as Zoe Harcombe demonstrates in this article.

https://www.zoeharcombe.com/2020/11/sage-conflicts-of-interest/

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Janey B

Fascinating detail re. SAGE connections in that reference.

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TyRade
TyRade
4 years ago

Re the totalitarian definition: only today this pro-vaccine propaganda piece appeared in the Telegraph (not sure if a paywall stops the link):
pro-vaccines-do-feel-nervous-children-having-covid-jab
It is a dire piece of which even Goebbels would be ashamed. But it prays in aid a scary organisation I wasn’t aware of – ‘The Vaccine Confidence Project’. Following that link you’d discover another DT piece fawning over the censorship TikTok metes out to “anti-maskers and lockdown skeptics who have been radicalised by unsubstantiated claims published across various platforms.” Ie those who disagree. ‘Radicalised’! We’re terrorists!! And look how dangerous we can be…. “Extremist movements born on social media shook America this week.” Ie we are all armed insurrections (a la the Jan 6 pantomime ‘storming’ of the Capitol) now! So, only a couple of clicks from pro-vaxxing propaganda lies TDS – Trump derangement syndrome against us deplorables. “Branded evil” indeed.

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Janey B
Janey B
4 years ago
Reply to  TyRade

History repeats…

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Tillysmum
Tillysmum
4 years ago
Reply to  Janey B

That’s brilliant, thank you.Just a question though. Why is everyone in Israel flocking to be vaccinated?

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Janey B
Janey B
4 years ago
Reply to  Tillysmum

Are they though?

International Criminal Court accepts complaint of violation of Nuremberg Code by Israeli government

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Drew63
Drew63
4 years ago

Excellent observations. I don’t disagree with a word. But at some point, when the final history of the catastrophe is written, we will have to look at the multitude of incidents that contributed to us – as in much of modern society – accepting the destruction of our civil rights on such slender evidence. In no particular order:

1) Tom Hanks getting coronavirus. When “Mr Nice-guy All-American” gets it…

2) It was plainly obvious to anyone with any common sense that the Chinese Government was lying about covid-19. The lied about its existence. They lied about how widespread it was. And they lied about how effective their “lockdown” was. Why our media and our Governments didn’t call them out on this I cannot tell.

3) Tom Moore walking around his garden. British society and culture at its absolute maundering, pathetic, 2020 lowest. Pointlessness personified, only to be raised to near sainthood. And after all that, he ‘effin dies of it. After being given a free holiday 99.9% of his fellow Brits could only dream of.

4) Boris Johnson gets it. Boris, while not aged, is unhealthiness itself. Boris rides a bike because it makes him look like he’s exercising, when it’s really just another chance to sit down.

5) Endless, meaningless, useless statistics. R-values. Rates per 100K. Is my county/town/region worse than yours? And the obsession with the death toll. When, in all honesty, most of those people were going to die of something pretty soon anyway.

6) The useless media constantly pushing outlier stories. Your dog can get covid. The “healthy, happy 25 year old who dies of covid” bullshit. The “covid can wreck your heart” nonsense.

7) Clapping for the NHS. Uggghhhh…. To be honest, I’d prefer it if we had organised the Two Minute Hate. That, at least, would be an emotion I could relate to.

8) All the Government boondoggles. The pointless hunt for ventilators. Building the Nightingales. Track & Trace. “Eat Out to Help Out” And, no doubt, many, many more.

9) Tim Brooke-Taylor dies. I may be wrong, but wasn’t he the most “high profile” British celebrity to die of covid? Not to slag Mr Brooke-Taylor, but The Goodies were on forty years ago. And he was almost 80.

10) Dominic Cummings and the illegal road-trip. British politicians and journalists get their knickers twisted into a Gordian knot of holier-than-thou bullshit. I thought wasting police time was a crime in this country? And – for the record – I don’t like Dominic Cummings.

11) Donald Trump gets it. How many people were kinda-sorta hoping Trump was gonna die from it? Be honest now…

I’m sure I’ve missed many. But these incidents all contributed to where we are now.

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rachel.c
rachel.c
4 years ago

I’ve become very sceptical of anyone working for the pharma companies but I like the term Virocracy. However, not only are we living a lie with regard to Covid 19, we are also living a lie about our health, healthcare and dietary advice. The more I read about the ever-growing obesity problem as a result of undiagnosed insulin resistance, secret diabetes, MIRS, etc. the more I worry that we’ll never get out of this mess. Treating the problem by testing for blood insulin levels, eliminating added-sugar and processed foods from our diet, checking our blood sugar levels to see what triggers insulin responses and so on would mean not only vast reductions in demands for sugary and processed foods but also unnessary drugs for high blood pressure, cholesterol, etc. Prof Tim Spector and many others know about this but dare not put their heads above the parapet.

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sophie123
sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  rachel.c

I work for a pharma company. We are not all bad and we don’t all believe the BS.

What I find most mind boggling is that our whole business model is based on looking for clinical evidence of medical benefit, and making an appropriate judgment on whether to invest on a risk-benefit basis. This involves setting aside emotion, or risk making terrible capital allocation decisions that lead to failed studies (and poor returns), or in a worst case scenario, lawsuits.

Yet somehow I have seen top execs get suckered into the BS, either through wanting to be aligned with the government (whether or not they truly believe), presumably for various quid pro quo type reasons, fear (scientists are not immune to fear, just like anyone else), PR for the sector (despite making many lifesaving medicines, the industry is always looked at askance for profiting from it), and fame & glory (if they can contribute to solving the manufactured crisis). Oh and profit.

Opportunity to make a fast buck also appeals, although it’s not doing much for the share prices as (1) net present value of cash flows from pandemic products are limited, given pandemics are short lived (2) everyone knows these things distract. How much time is Soriot spending on this bullshit vs preparing for the Alexion integration, or fixing his somewhat half assed pipeline that is about to run out of steam?

Anyhow. My point is that despite supposedly being capable of seeing through the bullshit, the pharma sector has a lot of people in it (much like government) who either can’t see through it or won’t see through it because of various self interests. Mostly the former, but leaning to the latter at exec level.

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peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Your second paragraph describes the economics of Big Pharma doing everything it can to rubbish the use of ivermectin and/or HCQ/zinc. There is absolutely no money in any of them persuing the tests necessary for these generic drugs to be passed for use in dealing with covid. That ‘capital allocation’ decision damned hundreds of thousands to death and more to unnecessary suffering.
The model of Big Pharma is simple and it mimicks the virus ; create a beneficial environment for diseases to flourish , hopefully without death rates being too high to attract attention, and make as many $billions as possible as a consequence. The very last thing they want is for ‘cures’ to be found.

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Janey B
Janey B
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Ivermectin, HCQ and zinc have been approved and used in the past, along with vitamin D and C. Another insidious aspect of this corona-con is how they were purposely and reprehensibly discredited or order to “qualify” for emergency use authorisation of the experimental gene therapy and other experimental jabs.

Vitamin D Insufficiency May Account for Almost Nine of Ten COVID-19 Deaths: Time to Act. Comment on: “Vitamin D Deficiency and Outcome of COVID-19 Patients”. Nutrients 2020, 12, 2757

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Janey B
Janey B
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

I’m sorry, I’m rather more cynical and see the problem being that those promoting this are definitely in the latter camp. The alternative is what? Gross incompetence?

Fauci, Fergusson and SAGE are seriously conflicted, and it is a mystery why anyone not involved in the corona-con, trusts Fauci and Fergusson.

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Annabel Andrew
Annabel Andrew
4 years ago

have copied and pasted the entry from Encyclopaedia Britannica and have sent it to my MP- might be good if there could be a concerted effort to bombard the buggers!!

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WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
4 years ago

I see Chris Exley, (who researches aluminium and its neurotoxic effects), has had his funding streams shut down. And of course, where there is dubious academic practice, there’s the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. It’s just so vile and reprehensible the way in which UK academia has been corrupted beyond recognition by Philanthrocapitalism.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/university-shuts-down-aluminum-experts-research/?itm_term=home

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Janey B
Janey B
4 years ago
Reply to  WeAllFallDown

Yes, except I would call it misanthro-capitalism.

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Peter W
Peter W
4 years ago

I’ve twice sent my pathetic excuse for an MP the definition of a Dictatorship. He thinks democracy is alive and well in his safe hands.
I shall be sending the useless twit your definition of Totalitarianism although he won’t see the comparison. Cognitive dissonance is a terrible thing in the wrong hands!

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