Triple-Jabbed Over-30s Have Higher Infection Rates Than the Unvaccinated, UKHSA Data Show

Unadjusted vaccine effectiveness against infection is negative against Omicron for the triple-jabbed over-30s, new UKHSA data show, meaning infection rates per 100,000 are higher in the triple vaccinated.

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This week’s UKHSA vaccine surveillance report has landed – and this week a change. In the (in)famous Table 12, which shows rates of infections, deaths and hospitalisations per 100,000 by vaccination status, the data have suddenly switched to giving rates for triple-jabbed rather than two-or-more doses, meaning we no longer have continuity with our previous data. So sudden was the change in fact, that the report itself has not kept up with it, and the notes under the table still say the rates are for “people who have received either two doses of a COVID-19 vaccine or in people who have not received a COVID-19 vaccine”.

The change means we have to start over in our week-by-week comparisons, so the infection rates by age for this period are depicted above and the unadjusted vaccine effectiveness figures are depicted below.

Below is how the total reported infections for the period break down by vaccination status (in this chart vaccinated means one or more doses). While the chart doesn’t take into account the different numbers of people vaccinated and unvaccinated, with over 70% of infections in the vaccinated it does show that the outbreak is predominantly in vaccinated people.

Below is what our previous chart would look like if we just added the new data in, but the trend in the past week is obviously nonsense as they’ve changed the parameters. Still, it gives an indication of the difference between the double and triple jabbed, and note that all but the under-30s are still negative (meaning higher infection rates in the vaccinated than unvaccinated), and the under-30s are still low. Also, the over-70s declined since last week anyway, despite the switch to triple-jabbed only. Makes you wonder what the data for two-or-more doses would have shown.

The negative effectiveness in the raw data here is being seen elsewhere, including in Scotland, Ontario and Iceland, and the UKHSA should be investigating this striking phenomenon properly by quantifying the potential confounders and producing adjusted estimates from the data.

Instead, the agency continues to insist, ludicrously, that “comparing case rates among vaccinated and unvaccinated populations should not be used to estimate vaccine effectiveness against COVID-19 infection”. (A new ‘fact check‘ from Full Fatuous has even appeared to hammer home the point again.) But that is an untenable position – of course vaccine effectiveness can be estimated by “comparing case rates among vaccinated and unvaccinated populations” – and as I noted in a post earlier, this is shown once more by the U.S. CDC, which has just published a report estimating hazard rates (an equivalent quantity to vaccine effectiveness) by doing just that. Furthermore, while the CDC study controlled for prior infection and adjusted for age, it deemed biases from other potential confounders to be “minimal”. This shows up the UKHSA’s excuses for what they are, and they should no longer be accepted.

For completeness, here are the charts for hospitalisations and deaths, though again the sharp rise this week is an artefact owing to switching to triple-jabbed only. The UKHSA report’s official estimate of vaccine effectiveness for the double-dosed against hospitalisation from Omicron after six months is 30-55%.

Stop Press: Eugyppius draws on the data from last week’s report to estimate the missing data from this week’s, and comes to a disturbing conclusion: that the two-dose-only group have much higher Covid death rates than the unvaccinated. This is disturbing as the report states that the high risk are prioritised for boosters, meaning the death rate in the remaining two-dose-only population should be biased low, not high.

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flamewire
flamewire
4 years ago

IN THESE LATEST UKHSA FIGURES ONLY 40,000 of the 14.2MILLION UNDER 18s are BOOSTED, CASES IN THE SINGLE AND DOUBLE JABBED CHILDREN OUTWAY THE UNVACCINATED 4 to 3, SAME AS ALL OTHER AGE GROUPS. REMEMBER THE ONLY REASON WE JABBED TEENAGERS WAS TO STOP THEM FROM GETTING INFECTED…. ONS 2021 TOTAL DEATH in 15-19 AGE GROUP IS UP 25.5% ON 2020 ALL YOUNGER AGE GROUPS UNCHANGED….

LonePatriot
LonePatriot
4 years ago

Dr. Robert Malone on posted irrefutable proof of the Ivermectin success story in India. Ivermectin needs to be allowed for medical use and for doctors to prescribe it immediately in United States. It is an act of criminal malfeasance to keep up the sham in the face of overwhelming proof and overwhelming harm to the people of this nation. If you want you can get it from https://ivmpharmacy.com

JeremyP99
JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  LonePatriot

Somewhere in the leaked Fauci emails that Project Veritas leaked, is Fauci stating in April 2020 that Ivermectin, HCQ and Interferon ALL worked well to combat Covid.

People need to swing. Cancelling Ivermectin cost the lives of million. This was a mixture of corporate/governmental manslaughter.

1953bloke
1953bloke
4 years ago

Suppose an island has 1000 inhabitants ranging in age according to a roughly normal distribution. A novel virus strikes which is fatal to the old and vulnerable killing off the oldest and sickest 50 inhabitants. Many of the others catch the virus but don’t die. The wave passes.

A vaccine is created and everyone takes it. A second wave arrives. Hospitalisations and deaths are drastically reduced and the vaccine is hailed as a great success. It doesn’t prevent catching the virus. It does not prevent passing the virus. Then a small child notices that there are no old and frail people around as they all died when the virus first struck. The child asks a question. “Is the vaccine the cause of the reduced numbers in hospital or is the reduction because there are no longer any old and susceptible people around?”

I am waiting for this question to be asked and answered.

rational
rational
4 years ago
Reply to  1953bloke

Go and look at the death data and work it out yourself.
You will notice it is not as simple as you currently think, but eventually you will learn that vaccines have worked very well.

ellie-em
ellie-em
4 years ago

Another ‘variant of concern’ on the way? No doubt it’s currently cooking
in a lab somewhere.

https://news.sky.com/story/omicron-sub-lineage-ba-2-designated-as-covid-variant-under-investigation-says-ukhsa-12521718

The UKHSA is apparently investigating a sub-lineage of the Omicron variant which has been detected. Case rates are currently very low. Surprise, surprise – it is more transmissible than the more transmissible Omicron.

I wonder if this variant has skin rashes and lesions involved. I’ve noticed there’s been a lot of news alerts on the radio (on in my car, Smooth radio, when I’m driving) about shingles caused by reactivation of the dormant virus for those who have previously had chickenpox.

They are wishing the pox on us all!

Doom Slayer
Doom Slayer
4 years ago

And yet jabbit still lies to us that the jabs reduce transmission. What mental gymnastics is he using to come to that conclusion? He sure as hell isnt using this data. I mean we are in a prime period to assess whether the boosters do anything with transmission, and shock, still case rates are higher in the highly boostered groups. lol. And it would be even worse if they had accurate numbers of unvaccinated.

sophie123
sophie123
4 years ago

I have no clue what the UKHSA think they are playing at, getting rid of the 2 doses data. What are they going to do in 2-3 months time when the boosted are dying at a higher rate than the unvaxxed? (my best guess on timing).

Given that it was clearly done in a rush, with footnotes not updated, I am imagining screaming rows and someone going “FINE!!! I’ll just delete the column! Happy now?!!! FFS” and there we are.

FrankFisher
FrankFisher
4 years ago

I have been following this very closely for two years now, I was looking at china in Dec 2019. I won’t go into the whole litany of bullshit, but there is one point that is starting to become more and more jarring – this claim that the jabs have a mortality benefit. Do they/ Do they really? If they do…. HOW? What is the mechanism? They do not prevent infection, they do not reduce viral load. So HOW is this claimed mortality benefit being achieved? And why has no one explained this?

sophie123
sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  FrankFisher

I don’t know but the trials never showed a mortality benefit. 15 deaths in the Pfizer arm, 14 in the placebo (before they switched everyone to the vaccine and 5 or 6 more people who were in the placebo arm and then got Pfizer and died)

Doom Slayer
Doom Slayer
4 years ago
Reply to  FrankFisher

They always knew they would not reduce transmission. The upper respiratory tract is protected by pretty much a completely independant immune response from anything induced by the jab. The people who suffer from severe covid are those who havent been able to combat the virus in the urt and it has spread to their lungs. It can then cause damage to blood vessels and sometimes lead to a runaway immune response leading to excessive inflammation and hypoxia (bit like a pneumonia type situation). The antibodies that the jab induces are in much higher concentration in the lungs and so that is where they will have an effect in theory. There is much more to it then just antibodies. Im sure there are some vulnerable people who have benefitted, but as a whole it is definitley unclear how much, especially considering the harms the vaccines can do.

Real world data is not supporting the claims. The US has more deaths post vaccine. The uk had about 70k deaths before the vaccines and now we are at 150k (yes i know all the figures are b0llocks but comparing like for like). Analysis by Norman Fenton has not shown a benefit in… Read more »

186NO
186NO
4 years ago

The evidence, and incontrovertible at that, in plain sight, accumulating daily refuting every facet of the “UK Government official response” – meanwhile Johnson, Javed, Zahawi and all the other Covid Gauleiters pump out the same unadulterated garbage as if the tide of evidence does not exist.

If for no other reason, hopefully forthcoming evidence of Whip intimidation notwithstanding, Johnson has to go – the damage he is doing to the fabric of these islands is, I hesitate to say, catastophic – and Putin drives the wedges between the US, UK, NATO and Europe deeper by the hour. What the hell does Johnson think he is doing?

Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  186NO

Thinking isn’t Bozo’s strong point!! Many people think/thought he was intelligent but he leaves all decisions to other people! He takes responsibility if it works but offloads it if it doesn’t work. TCW claimed Johnson is a fraud, which is true, he is.

JeremyP99
JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  186NO
TheEngineer
TheEngineer
4 years ago

The scamdemic might be coming to a well deserved end:

https://policescotlandangels.org/?p=979

Hopefully BoJo and his mated will be among those arrested.

JohnK
JohnK
4 years ago

An opportunity for solicitors sharpening up their pencils perhaps? Claims for damages, maybe? Or are the usual suspects immune from prosecution?

Suzyv
Suzyv
4 years ago

Non of this is surprising. Many Drs and Scientists said that this would happen and they were right. I watched a Dr in the US showing the blood test results of his patients before and after these jabs and the immune system markers were seriously damaged. They now say that many of those dosed up have VAIDS. Dr Ryan Cole says they are finding far more cancers (approx 20x) in the jabbed and I can vouch for this as I am hearing of people often, all jabbed. Nothing to do with wait lists. Then you have the Canadian Dr Charles Hoffe who has found mini blood clots in 62% of his jabbed patients and so it goes… So what’s it to be- a reduction in symptoms for a mere few weeks (and that’s only a maybe) of something that is not dangereous for around 99.74% of people v increase your chances of something far more serious and life threatening? And we haven’t even started on long term damage yet.

Paul_Somerset
Paul_Somerset
4 years ago

A blistering editorial attack on the vaccine manufacturers by the British Medical Journal.

https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj.o102

Pharmaceutical companies are reaping vast profits without adequate independent scrutiny of their scientific claims. The purpose of regulators is not to dance to the tune of rich global corporations and enrich them further; it is to protect the health of their populations. We need complete data transparency for all studies, we need it in the public interest, and we need it now.

Tee Ell
Tee Ell
4 years ago

The ONS have also changed their presentation of stats for all cause mortality. I’m not suggesting it’s anything underhand, but it annoys me because I’ll have to rewrite all my scripts that export the data to these charts 😀

https://gray-mushroom-06a8e7010.azurestaticapps.net/

ElSabio
ElSabio
4 years ago

Holy sheet…

The Return of Hitler Youth in Quebec

https://americandigest.org/the-return-of-hitler-youth-in-quebec/

Justin Castro is raising an army….

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Doom Slayer
Doom Slayer
4 years ago

Maybe the resident troll would like to read some analysis done by Hart on population estimates of unvaccinated and vaccinated, and how underestimating the unvax population like they clearly are is making the vaccines look better for hospitalisation and death. Its an easy trick to do to manipulate the perceived benefits.

If the vaccines were as effective as they say we were would be seeing clear differences in all cause mortality in the higher age groups. Norman Fenton has analysed this also and found no clear benefit.

ElSabio
ElSabio
4 years ago

The buffoon has an awful lot to answer for…

“The Damage Is Done to Us Forever, And We’ll Never Get It Back” – British Student Breaks Down Crying Over Lifting of COVID Mask Rules

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/damage-done-us-forever-never-get-back-british-student-breaks-crying-lifting-covid-mask-rules-video/

Star
Star
4 years ago

Boris Johnson has nothing to offer most members of the electorate at the moment other than “I got all you vaccinated”. At least that’s the impression I received from today’s interview in which he was asked about threatened cuts to the amount of government money “spent” in constituencies that “belong” to Tory MPs who might “write to Graham Brady”.

Some people are saying this is just like what happened with Owen Paterson.

They’re right, but they’re forgetting what happened next in that case: Johnson and his fellow Old Etonian Jacob Rees-Mogg had their faces rubbed in it. I still reckon Johnson’s premiership will be toast by early February at the latest.

Star
Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

There’s also another pattern with Johnson: he gets sacked for lying.

Sure, David Davis delivered his “In the name of God, go” speech appallingly weakly yesterday.

And Labour’s choreography of Christian Wakefield crossing the floor of the House wearing Geri Halliwell’s Union Jack knickers on top of his beard was also pathetic. Why anyone would think he was going to look cool dressed like that, I really don’t know. Perhaps there’s mileage in the gossip that Keir Starmer and pals want a weakened Johnson to stay in his position.

But the Carlton Club, man, the Carlton Club.

Oh, and this from the Times about half an hour ago:

“Tory rebels seeking to oust Boris Johnson retaliate in ‘blackmail’ row – We have texts and a recording, say angry MPs”

Tory MPs who want to oust Boris Johnson are considering publishing a secretly recorded conversation with the chief whip and text messages after they accused the government of blackmail and intimidation.

The betting market has got this one wrong, with its current implied probability of 0.25 for Johnson losing the Tory leadership before the end of March. He won’t get past the middle of February. He may not even make it… Read more »

felicityby
felicityby
4 years ago

Things are changing https://youtu.be/9UHvwWWcjYw

crisisgarden
crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  felicityby

I had to chuckle watching that. You can see in his face he’s waking up to the fact that he’s been one of the internet’s favourite experts on a pandemic that wasn’t!

realarthurdent
realarthurdent
4 years ago

I suppose the vaccine people in response to this would say “well, we never said the vaccines would stop infection, our product documentation says these vaccines may not stop infection and they may not stop transmission, and we mainly sold them on the basis that they reduce serious illness and hospitalisation”

Which may or may not be true but governments most definitely sold these vaccines to the public as being the answer to preventing infection and transmission and furthermore have used them as the raison d’etre for vaccine passports which now make absolutely no sense whatsoever.

sophie123
sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

They didn’t tell the governments to shut up, did they?
They should have. They known damn well the legal consequences of allowing a product to be misrepresented.

BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

It is blatantly obvious now that people may be ‘vaccinated’ but they are not inoculated.

Annie
Annie
4 years ago

No, only indoctrinated.

hurleyp
hurleyp
4 years ago

So, the vax didn’t live up to the marketing hype? I am shocked, shocked I say.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  hurleyp

If the customers felt it worked for them…

CovidiousAlbion
CovidiousAlbion
4 years ago

Figures from Scotland, which I’ve not seen being mentioned here.

Usual issue that it all revolves around a positive test result, and nobody can be bothered to note whether a patient has been moved into ICU because of severe CoViD-19, or for some other reason such as a disagreement in the pub.

The “booster” is appearing effective, for now, just as our original salvation, the two-dose treatment, did, for a period.

Source link: https://publichealthscotland.scot/media/11089/22-01-12-covid19-winter_publication_report.pdf

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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

The evidence keeps mounting up. So why do they persist with the big push for ‘vaccines’? Surely the likes of Johnson, Whitty, Vallance and co., must realise they will ultimately have to face the consequences of their actions? Or is their arrogance and hubris blinding them to the obvious? Alternatively are they just plain evil?

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

Maybe they can’t slow down the juggernaut in less than x miles.

Star
Star
4 years ago

They do what they’re told. Also, what @BS665 says. That would be the mother of all U-turns.

But yes, they are evil.

Old Maid
Old Maid
4 years ago

Those ‘unjabbed’ figures are actually much, much lower. Just like the whole blaming people who haven’t taken a jab for the failures of the jab, the recently-jabbed-and-infected get counted in the unjabbed.

Another first: the first time that someone who’s had a treatment gets counted as someone who hasn’t.

The deceit of the whole thing stinks.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Old Maid

Laughably blaming the healthy “unjabbed” for the infection of the multi-jabbed is just garbage-fodder for cretins to lap up!

It shows the total contempt our rulers have for the basic intelligence of the population – but maybe they are right.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

They’re running out of possible combinations of lies, surely?

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Johnson has his pockets stuffed with them to pull out at will – he probably dines out on dishes of lies as well!

He told another “big porky whopper” only today.

Johnson claimed that the NHS were fully behind the mandatory vaccination (or sacking) of NHS staff.

This is simply false. The BMA, the Academy of Medical Royal College and the Royal College of Nursing have official policy statements opposing this for NHS staff.

Johnson, it seems, cannot function without lying.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

So either this collapses under its own weight, or we are in Commie land 1984/2020 style for the duration.

Star
Star
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

NHS England’s board.

Non-execs:

  • 1 from Lehmans and Lazards,
  • 1 from Goldman Sachs, Diageo, Unilever, and Credit Suisse
  • 2 from Sainsbury,
  • 1 Imperial College-connected guy who no doubt was motivated by altruism when he gave up the Labour whip in the Lords because he thought Jeremy Corbyn was soft on anti-Semitism,
  • 1 from Marks and Spencer,
  • and included among the above, 2 from Tesco

Execs:

  • a trio of operators mixed up with government “health” money
  • and a guy from HSBC who dealt with nuclear weapons at the Ministry of Defence
David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Old Maid

It doesn’t just stink – it is probably the most outrageous, illegal display of deliberate evil from a lying Government directed at its own people we have ever seen in this country!

This is the biggest and most lethal orchestrated Government fraud in our history.

cloud6
cloud6
4 years ago

Can we mandate and ensure every politician gets one of these transplants, please…

Elon Musk’s brain chip startup prepares for first ever human trials (msn.com)

I will volunteer Boris Johnson and Kier Starmer for a start.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  cloud6

Hasn’t Musk had one already?

cloud6
cloud6
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Probably!

OliveTrees
OliveTrees
4 years ago
Reply to  cloud6

Well, that explains the “forehead” part of the “in the right hand or in the forehead”.

Wonder what year they’ll be mandatory, for some conjured up crisis?

JeremyP99
JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  cloud6

It was some long time before I realised Elon Musk was a person. Thought him summat like Max Headroom. I mean – no one can have a name like “Elon Musk” no?

amanuensis
amanuensis
4 years ago

There are going to be riots once the mass media start reporting on these data.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

IF. The gov is still stirring the pot and ladelling out shite gruel.

We need to be patient and do what we can, hopefully there is some reality in this ‘liberalisation’ phase.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

Then will they shoot people – I bet some of them can’t wait!

Or is this what their five new giant prisons are for?

OliveTrees
OliveTrees
4 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

So, no riots then.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

How will we know there are riots as the MSM will not report them.. They are currently happening all over Europe – who knew?

pre-Boomer Marine brat
pre-Boomer Marine brat
4 years ago

Obviously, … because I’m vaccinated I’m either stupid or on death’s doorstep or a Commie.

To hell with it.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

Nope. Resistance takes all sorts. How can any of us hate you when we have family jabbed? For me it’s about freedom, and an end to this tyranny. I ignore most of the science and conspiracy stuff because it doesn’t interest me. It may well be right, but I have my priorities. Sanity is one of them!

ElSabio
ElSabio
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

For me it’s about freedom, and an end to this tyranny.

Freedom: that’s exactly what Brexit was all about, and the antis could never get their heads around that concept. Talk to a brexiteer and that was often the first thing that was mentioned. It’s the same with the vax. Measles, polio, and the other vaccines most of us had at school were one-off and (reasonably) tried and tested. This rona rubbish was rushed from the start by politicos and big pharma, and with not a thought as to the consequences.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

While I voted to Remain, I switched to Brexit later – because that was what had been voted for (and I wanted it out of the way).

The trouble is that we have a severely distorted public sphere where there is no forthright exchange of views. I can respect anyone of a different viewpoint to my own – the more so, if they reciprocate my respect.

ElSabio
ElSabio
4 years ago

If you were vaccinated of your own volition, there’s nothing wrong with that at all; the choice was yours and it’s none of my, or anyone else’s, business. The problem comes from peer pressure, bribery, bullying… mandates. That is the road to tyranny.

rational
rational
4 years ago

Actually, many here will think you are also a fascist

pre-Boomer Marine brat
pre-Boomer Marine brat
4 years ago

I am vaccinated (twice, last summer) and my immune system is probably in excellent shape, but neither of those in any way prevents a virus from being inhaled into my nostrils – there to gleefully glom onto the first cotton swab coming in, a promissory “I’ll make you famous” printed on its fibers.

The numbers of “cases” are garbage. They’re only relevant because they’ve been made so by those who are using them for purposes unrelated to medicine or science.

rational
rational
4 years ago

So look at the number of hospitalisations and deaths.

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago
Reply to  rational

Would those be the circa 150,000 covid deaths as reported by our beloved MSM?

Or the 17,371 (covid-only deaths) for all of 2020 and up to 3rd quarter of 2021 in the ONS FOI report? (with a corresponding average age of death at 82.5 years – which is higher than the actual overall life expectancy).

rational
rational
4 years ago

Did you know that life expectancy varies with the age.
You can look it up here, but careful ..your argument will crumble.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/lifeexpectancies/datasets/nationallifetablesunitedkingdomreferencetables

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago

All predicted – the jab makes you sick…so have another…who knew?

But then if people were bothered to look at exactly what they were having injected and how it is designed to operate once in the human body why should anyone be surprised?

Remember, in the only animal tests ever undertaken and the results explained over and over again, at least a year ago : “All the ferrets died”.

In the end the media – especially the ‘blindly trusted’ BBC and their selected, subjective Pharma -backed ‘experts’ have a lot to answer for in keeping objective ‘facts’ from the public while peddling the Government narrative and propaganda ad nauseum.

I suppose it is never too late to ‘wake up’.

One thing should be clear: “Trust me I’m a ‘scientist’ from the Government/ BBC” – will never, ever have the same ring again!

thorsteinn@sjonarrond.is
4 years ago

This is in line with the data we have seen in Iceland. Even if it looks as if the authorities have now resorted to faking the numbers https://thorsteinnsiglaugsson.wordpress.com/2022/01/20/unruly-numbers/

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