Health Secretary Sajid Javid has been directly challenged by an unvaccinated hospital consultant over the Government’s policy of compulsory Covid jabs for NHS staff. Sky News has more.
During a visit to King’s College Hospital in south London, Mr. Javid asked staff members on the intensive care unit about their thoughts on new rules requiring vaccination for NHS workers.
And Steve James, a consultant anaesthetist who has been treating coronavirus patients since the start of the pandemic, told the Health Secretary about his displeasure.
“I’m not happy about that,” he said. “I had Covid at some point, I’ve got antibodies, and I’ve been working on Covid ICU since the beginning.
“I have not had a vaccination, I do not want to have a vaccination. The vaccines are reducing transmission only for about eight weeks for Delta, with Omicron it’s probably less.
“And for that, I would be dismissed if I don’t have a vaccine? The science isn’t strong enough.”
Mr. James also revealed another of his colleagues held the same position.
Mr. Javid replied: “I respect that, but there’s also many different views. I understand it, and obviously we have to weigh all that up for both health and social care, and there will always be a debate about it.”
The consultant suggested the Health Secretary could use the “changing picture” of the Covid pandemic during the Omicron wave to “reconsider” the rule.
Alternatively, Mr. James suggested, the government could “nuance” the rules to allow those who have antibodies – but acquired from infection and not vaccination – to not be required to have a jab.
He told the Health Secretary that it “didn’t make sense” to dismiss doctors who already had Covid antibodies, but who did not want to be vaccinated.
“The protection that I’ve got from transmission is probably the equivalent to someone who is vaccinated,” Mr James said.
But Mr. Javid told him “at some point that will wane as well”. He added that the government takes the “very best advice” from vaccine experts.
“I respect your views and more than that I respect everything you’re doing here and the lives you’re saving,” the Health Secretary told Mr. James.
I respect everything you’re doing – but I’m going to sack you for not getting vaccinated, even though you’ve got antibodies and the vaccines don’t prevent infection or transmission.
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How did this consultant acquire natural antibody immunity? By exposure to the virus. So if and when that ‘wanes’ what will happen when he’s exposed to the virus? His immune system will use it’s memory of the pathogen and produce more antibodies. That’s why natural immunity is far superior to any vaccine and is far more resilient to mutations. This should be 101 for a competent Secretary of State.
The very idea of a A&E doctor whose worked throughout the pandemic being challenged by a finance executive is laughable, insulting and such a great example of the insanity of the past two years.
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Shouldn’t Dr Steve James be the Health Secretary rather the former banker ‘Satanic Jabber’?
You can vote for the courageous doctor who challenged Sajid Javid (Dr Steve James, ICU Unit) in the ‘King’s Stars Quarterly Awards’ here: https://www.kch.nhs.uk/contact/commendation
It seems to have got the state propagandists out in force to reinforce the government narrative. Some of the Times comments on the incident are crafted to include the 5 rules of propaganda, surely not by accident, the regime is conducting psychological warfare against un-jabbed NHS employees –
An example: “He would have been considerably busier in ICU if the rest of us had followed his appalling and arrogant example. The public health messaging for everyone to be fully jabbed is undermined by individuals such as this and if he continues with his stance, he should be relieved from his duties as an example to others. You can see on here that he is already becoming the poster boy of the anti-vax mob I personally wouldn’t want such a person near me, let alone treat me, if I were in hospital.”
‘5 Rules of Propaganda’ –
Simplification – Simplification into black and white, good and bad
Disfiguration – Discrediting the opposition by crude smears and parodies
Transfusion – Manipulating the consensus values of the target audience for one’s own ends
Unanimity – Presenting one’s viewpoint as if it were the unanimous opinion of all right thinking people
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I know this will be an unpopular view but I am not quite sure why people think it is a great clip, I think sceptics are hearing things he doesn’t actually say, he actually says “the vaccine reduce transmission” (do they? certainly not according to case numbers) and doesn’t criticise it – just says it doesn’t last long enough.
It reinforces the government narrative. Just allows them to introduce an antibody exemption so less staff leave at the same time.
Seriously it wouldn’t be shown on Comcast owned Sky News if there was any chance of someone going completely off-script. The regime aren’t stupid.
This is what a hero looks like.
The Health Secretary claiming to be listening to the “very best advice” from “vaccine experts” is a contrast to the then government reaction to the 364 “expert” economists writing to The Times to criticise the 1981 budget (although some even today say they were right whilst others say they were wrong – perhaps it would be better if we hadn’t had any budgets over the last 40 years until we’d sorted it all out!).
Whilst I am happy to listen to this “very best advice”, I suspect I will remain highly sceptical of this “very best advice” from “vaccine experts”. But I am certainly happy and curious to watch the “vaccine experts” jabbing themselves to their hearts content and observe the result. Perhaps in 40 years time the “very best advice” from these “vaccine experts” will have finally settled upon the correct approach?
I wouldn’t be listening to any of the advice the government is trotting out, not if it is coming from “vaccine experts” which turn out to be employed by Moderna or Pfizer et al
Just imagine if we had a ”health secretary” who was actually scientifically literate!
This one is out of his depth and so hypocritical it’s breathtaking.
Damned impressive that all bankers are expert immunologists now.
No end to their talents.
Please DS, post this article again every week until this vaccine nonsense is over.
I strongly feel this doctor has conveyed the messages of thousands of medical staff and it is arguably the most important news moment for 2021 to date.
This man is a doctor, with intelligent grounds for not taking the vaccine.
I can’t believed it was aired by SKY….it must help the “Trusted News” somehow??? However, it was aired and is absolutely fantastic.
I could also tell the doctor, like many of us, was almost shaking with frustration as he spoke….what a genuine HERO.
I would love to have a moment with this doctor to discuss his reasons further and also his views of COVID 1984. There must be loads of people feeling the same…brilliant work. (Knighthood?)
I don’t know if the shaking was frustration or fear for his job/career/future/family.
I think that’s a fair point…I would have been rather nervous, hence the nurses initial lack of response. That’s why the speaking up was so much more impressive. I have been waiting for the chance to bump into the leading political criminals…especially whilst on camera…the intelligent, reasoned approach seems have a decent effect.
I salute his courage!
“But Mr. Javid told him “at some point that will wane as well”. He added that the government takes the “very best advice” from vaccine experts.”
Just not from Dr. Robert Malone, the inventor of mRNA technology. He’s presumably not ‘expert’ enough on the subject.
Yet more ‘limited hangout’. They are back pedalling faster than we’ve seen at any time, you can hear the desperation in their voices and the MSM is softening up to aid them. They hope we’ll forget what they’ve done and that they’ll be hailed as heroes because it will take years for the Covid review to be published. This shower of sh!ts will be comfortably installed in WEF funded roles outside of politics well before then.
Knighthoods and seats in the House of a Lords. Which is fine, because the Saint Blair of Iraqi Genocide debacle will have devalued them beyond redemption.
Well done to the good doctor.
This obviousness passes as bravery these days.
What frightened chickens we have become.
We hear over and over again that 90% of the NHS are fully vaccinated.
The problem the government has is that they do not know which 90%. If the 90% is on the administrative side, it means that a significant proportion of the medical side are unjabbed. This is a real problem as the NHS will shut down almost immediately. Should the 10% be solely amongst the administrators then it will have little impact on services.
My money is on the 10% being concentrated amongst people like Steve James, the more medically aware cohort. Not only will their removal close the NHS, it will open up avenues for each of them personally to explore unfair dismissal with potentially a full years salary gifted to them by way of apology.
Sticking my neck out here, I reckon the April deadline will never happen. Many medical practitioners when asked if they have had their jab would quite rightly reply “none of your business” (medical records being private) when asked by their employers (the Novak Djokovic defence), which means planning for late April impossible.
Hmm, all Savage Jabbit had to say was that the overwhelming majority of the public expect their medics to do whatever is necessary to protect them while in hospital (relying on some fudged poll for proof), even if it requires a bit of heroic self sacrifice, and the public pay for the NHS dontcha know. Wonder why he didn’t say that?
Wonderful. Calm, intelligent and rational; just as we expect senior hospital doctors to be. Virtually everyone working with patients in hospitals will have had Covid by now, vaccinated or not. It is absurd to ignore their professional knowledge and threaten them with the sack for failing to do something that they know is illogical and potentially dangerous. I thought Javid was quite rude.
Arrogant and tone deaf. A politician.
Rabid was exceedingly rude. He was a damned insult to the people of this country.
A decent man would look back at this video and think… hmm, I was out of order there. I need to make an apology. Publicly.
A brave, if naive, man. Was it staged to allow the government to de-escalate to save face while showing ‘compassion’ and ‘understanding’?
In a highly stage-managed MSM, this sort of thing cannot happen without deliberate intent.
That’s the alternative explanation I like (as opposed to Hugo)
Did anyone notice that the other NHS staff in the clip didn’t exactly offer overwhelming support for vaccine mandates?
At last, a consultant anaesthetist willing to stand up for himself and other healthcare professionals who do not want an immunisation they believe is unnecessary. Isn’t it amusing when a politician discounts a highly educated healthcare professional as was the case in this interaction.
time to pay attention Sajid, the tide is turning. If you sack any healthcare professional who chooses to remain unvaxxed, you and the nhs will regret it.
I would imagine most people do not take their health advice from politicians when they have a heart attack or cancer. For all those putting your faith in politicians, please consider rethinking your position. It is unsustainable.
Why didn’t the guy above mention T cells when Jabid said natural immunity will wain?! Why didn’t he mention that people are still resistant to the original SARS years later from T cell immunity. Screw antibody immunity.
Because they’re relying on ignorance, and avoiding educating people about how our immune system actually works.
I agree, vaccinations don’t replace the immune system.
Probably because there is no point in arguing with a politician. They are too thick to understand anything other than their personal agenda.
Yeah… maybe they will allow a vaxpass with an antibody response, but still not mention t-cell imprints
we don’t want them to “allow a vaxpass with an antibody response”
That is playing the game of CCP ID and CBDC
There is no need for vax passes. No one who is not medically qualified needs to see anyone’s medical status
I would put money on it that Jabbit soiled his panties! Please God, can we have a televised debate between Dr Integrity and the rancid Obersturmbannfuhrer Jabbit….
Well, his career is over, at least in this country.
But he’s shown that even Xerxes bleeds like a mortal.
There might be a decent job with a private firm round the corner – often literally so with some NHS hosps.
Probably doing subcontract work for nhs patients on stuff like knees, elbows etc. anyway.
From the TCW:
I’ve got a feeling that if Sajid Javid was told that Christian Pastor Zafar Bhatti has been sentenced to death in Pakistan for “sending blasphemous text messages” …
He’d also say:
FYI: Pastor Zafar founded and led Jesus World Mission, which is a small NGO whose main activities was to assist the poor.
great to see, but have to conclude it is deliberate and staged for a purpose. Not suggesting the Dr is involved, as he is clearly a brave man making a brave stand, but Sky and Jabbit would never usually allow that footage out, so why now ? Usually, it’s all deliberate…
also NHS staff are not allowed to speak to the media without the permission of their superiors
The great myth of the NHS is that it’s a public service. If this doctor is a consultant then he’s very probably self employed, hence the term ‘consultant’.
The threat from the NHS to suspend or sack the unjabbed is hollow and unsustainable, and they know it. It’s just that, a threat which will never be followed through.
If the NHS lost 10% of its medical staff it would fall over instantly as it is already understaffed.
My thoughts exactly. It coincides quite nicely with the JCVI saying that a fourth jab won’t be needed even though the latest reports show the “booster” only lasts for about ten weeks.
The nurses were too scared to speak their mind, that says it all.
Very well said Mr James. So hope it encourages others to speak out.
“The protection that I’ve got from transmission is probably the equivalent to someone who is vaccinated,” Mr James said.”
No. The immunity is better.
Interesting response on 90% vaccinated in the NHS. Why? because the PHE can’t get the records of the numbers of vaccinated direct from NHS due to inchoate recording systems and unknown recipients – pure political guess wish – so where does the Health Secretary get this intelligence from?
Having worked with anaesthetists on two life saving interventions – albeit asleep at the time – I know where I place my trust when wide awake!
They’re going through the Tik Tok videos as fast as they can.
Re:databases, here in Italy with the vaxx mandate requirement being floated for Feb 1st or 15th – the Italian government is allegedly about to use the National tax database (Agenzia delle entrate) cross referenced with the National Health vaccination database. This should be able to automatically remove the one hundred euro fine, from those citizens over fifty years of age, who aren’t up-to-date with the vaxx.
isn’t that sort of health tax discrimination by database the sort of thing that EU GDPR was supposed to protect from?
Who needs a social credit system when governments can do what they say a social credit system isn’t designed to do?