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Major Oxford Study into Vaccine Side-Effects Finds Myocarditis Risk in Younger Males Up to 14 Times Higher After Vaccination Than After Infection

by Will Jones
31 December 2021 7:00 AM

A major study from the University of Oxford into risks of myocarditis (heart inflammation) following Covid vaccination has found the risk in males under 40 to be significantly higher than the risk of the condition following Covid infection.

The researchers found that while there were seven additional myocarditis events per million in the 28 days following COVID-19 infection (95% Confidence Interval (CI): 2, 11), there were 14 following an AstraZeneca second dose (CI: 8,17), 12 following a Pfizer second dose (CI: 1,7), 101 following a Moderna second dose (CI: 95,104), and 13 following a Pfizer third dose (CI: 7,15). These findings are depicted above. Most of these figures represent a doubling of the risk compared with infection. However, the Moderna second dose figure is a massive 14.4 times greater. The Moderna vaccine uses a similar mRNA technology to the Pfizer vaccine, but delivers a dose three times as large, which may partly explain the difference.

For females and for males over 40 the study found greater risk of myocarditis following infection than following vaccination. However, some have criticised the study for under-counting Covid infections by using positive tests rather than antibody surveys, which means the risk following infection may be exaggerated. Another criticism was the use of only two age bands – above and below 40 years – which may conceal elevated risks for younger age groups. A third criticism is that by comparing the risk after infection to the risk after vaccination the study does not allow for the fact that many of the vaccinated will subsequently be infected anyway and experience both risks.

The study, which is a pre-print, is an update to an earlier study published in Nature earlier in December which used data up to August 24th. The update brings us up to November 15th, extends the age range down to 13 years from 16 years, and also includes results split by both sex and age (rather than just by sex and age separately) – the original study was especially criticised for omitting this breakdown, leading to allegations of concealing important findings for political purposes.

The authors note: “These findings have important implications for public health and vaccination policy.”

Indeed they do. In particular, given the low risk of Covid to males under 40, the extreme elevated risk of myocarditis from the Moderna vaccine means it ought to be suspended for use in males under 40 with immediate effect.

Image credit: Dr Tracy Høeg.

Tags: MyocarditisOxford UniversitySafetySide-effectsVaccines

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

Anyone who continues to gives this muck to children in light of this study really ought to be facing prosecution.
I say again that harming the young in order to make older people feel a bit safer is not acceptable. In fact it is positively barbaric.
And don’t forget that they want children to have this stuff up to four times per year – far more often than they would ever get “covid”, so an issue for females and older people as well.
And it was criminal, in fact, to give it to children in the first place before studies like this had time to be published and in defiance of JCVI advice.

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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Totally agree.
And this is only insofar as myocarditis is concerned.
The more insidious and long term harms will only become apparent in the future.
They gamble with young lives, not for medical reasons but purely to persuade the sheep how dangerous covid is in order to keep the fear porn going until their end game of digital ID/control is attained.
Using kids as human shields is evil beyond belief. Catch them young and indoctrinate for the future. It is Hitler Youth reincarnated.

It is though quite a useful point to make to the sheep. They really, really don’t take kindly to the obvious do they?

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

“They really don’t take kindly to the obvious do they”.

I’m still at a loss to understand why what is screaming obvious to those if us who frequent sites such as this is somehow a mystery to the bulk of the population.

I’m not particularly intelligent or well educated, my only advantage being almost total lack of exposure to the MSM.

I expect if they did publicise this research they would dress it up in complicated science in the hope that peoples eyes would glaze over.

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Sadly, I suspect there are substantial sections of society who are not very interested in what is in children’s interests. I think of teachers who are not very interested in putting themselves on the line to ensure that children’s education is not disrupted (and there’s talk of classes having to miss school in January – over what is little more than a common cold). Or the rotten family courts, where children’s own desires are not taken into account, in contravention of international treaties.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I was lucky, as a nine year old I was interviewed in private by a High Court Judge In Chambers (Chancery Lane).
No other adults present at all as he asked me at length about what I wanted by way of my future.
Satisfied that I was not responding under pressure he granted my wishes.
Shorty afte the social workers took over that role with the results we see today.

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watersider
watersider
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Well Karen you are not alone. You do put your finger on it though. Sadly about 90% of the population are exposed to the Main Stream Media and it’s lying propaganda.Then we have the corruption of the young as early as kindergarden from satanic teachers.
I have been a Man made Global Warming realist from day one, and this method of poisoning minds has long been perfected.
Nothing new under the sun.
Btw I wonder what efforts will be made to disappear this study

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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Some psychologists say that when it comes to thought processes, 20% of us have quick brains, 20% slow brains, whilst the remainder tend to follow whatever they perceive the majority are doing, which means most follow the quick brainers.
Thinking myself to be smart Lol,, I thought I must have a quick brain – able to think more quickly – no?
But not so.
Having a quick brain means you accept what you are told – hence the lynch mob mentality, follow the herd – end up like the Lemming.

Slow brain means you are more capable of critical thought, you question things….

So I would guess most here can say welcome the slow brain club.
Quite probably it was the slow brainers who enabled humanity to survive so far.

We’ve got quite a job on our hands at the moment though….

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Amtrup
Amtrup
3 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

Interesting. 🙂 another slow-thinker here. I too used to think I was a rapid thinker, and I can be in real emergencies, but generally yes, I digest slowly!

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TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
3 years ago
Reply to  Amtrup

Same. Can’t do decisions until I feel I have sufficient evidence, brain goes into tailspin if forced.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

When masks in classrooms were being talked about I suggested that 20% of pupils would be goody two shoes, 20% awkward buggers with 60% waiting to see which way the wind blows.

Same thing really but those 60% are likely to be fickle and quite likely to deong the other way for no apparent reason.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

‘deong’?🙄 = turn

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Richard Austin
Richard Austin
3 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

For me, it is simply a case of I believe nothing until I prove it for myself. All of this Covid crap has been based on lies from the start and I remember saying to my wife when they first announced it “this doesn’t add up” and oh boy was I right. I guess the fact I believe nothing at face value means I’m a slow thinker.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

That reminds me of a comment made by Chuck Yeager in an interview – the journalist made a comment along the lines of ‘You must have a really quick mind’, but Yeager surprised him – he said he always had to think for a few seconds before taking action when flying. He ascribed his survival to these extra few seconds’ thinking time, as they had allowed him to make the correct decision in a number of life-or-death situations.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

I think there is also a cohort of people who, irrespective of the speed of their brains, are determined to paddle their own canoe, if necessary against the tide, because they have simply decided that what is in their best interests does not entail following the herd or majority. I’d put myself in that category.

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

They trust their doctors, and their doctors say it’s safe, as opposed to random unqualified apparent nutters like us. It’s understandable. But every doctor who has not spoken out against this is guilty.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

As noted previously re car insurance, no amount of compensation makes up for becoming paraplegic or mentally impaired as a result of the actions of others.

Same goes for those children whose lives might be blighted just to marginaly combat a condition that predominantly affects old people with underlying comorbidities, those that survived the initial care home cull.
A condition that is becoming demonstrably less harmful as time goes by.

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twinkytwonk
twinkytwonk
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Compensation is a one off payment of 120k and you need to be greater than 59% disabled to get that.

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Alex B
Alex B
3 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

That’s right an if your are a low income family etc, who claims any type of top up benefit, that is deducted from the 120k.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

KV can you help circulate this?

https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-numbers-killed-by-these-vaccines-is-much-worse-than-what-we-thought-dr-sucharit-bhakdi-mike-yeadon/5765883

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Let’s not forget that our societies are well accustomed to sacrificing the lives of children.

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

All spot on. Except, it isn’t being given to make the old feel safer. It is for the drug companies profits. In the US, by providing future protection from litigation once the emergency period is over – says Robert Kennedy jnr – he’s a lawyer, expect he’s right.

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FrankFisher
FrankFisher
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

If we still had a functioning legal system this study alone would be enough to kill compulsion stone dead.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Totally agree but according to Dr’s Sucharit Bahkdi and Mike Yeadon this is way beyond criminal:

https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-numbers-killed-by-these-vaccines-is-much-worse-than-what-we-thought-dr-sucharit-bhakdi-mike-yeadon/5765883

16 mins viewing and it’s gut wrenching.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I tried to make these points and emphasise the myocarditis harms to a friend who works in the NHS the other day. They just weren’t having it – to the point where I suspected they had been institutionally brainwashed to believe that the jab is both safe and effective. If that is what has happened then we are truly beaten.

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago

For females and for males over 40 the study found greater risk of myocarditis following infection than following vaccination.

However according to eminent cardiologist Dr Peter McCullough, the myocarditis experienced by those infected with COVID is milder than that experienced by the vaccinated and is “inconsequential”.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=1992&v=3AgvHVOo2Hg&feature=youtu.be

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SweetBabyCheeses
SweetBabyCheeses
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

One would presume that if you can actually be infected with asymptomatic covid then perhaps you are at risk of developing asymptomatic myocarditis!

The comparison for women and older males also doesn’t take into account the fact that getting jabbed is a conscious definitive act, whereas getting infected with a virus is a risk we take on in exchange for living! Plus so many people must be naturally immune by now.

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  SweetBabyCheeses

Exactly.
Also, since the vaccines don’t work, the vaccinated still face the risks of the virus as well as those of the vaccine.

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  SweetBabyCheeses

for me, the conscious decision you need to take would mean that benefit would have to outweigh risk 10 fold, or thereabouts. No way these vaccines do that.

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  SweetBabyCheeses

Yes. I assume this is based on reports of hospitalisations with myocarditis. Is any study being carried out to measure blood and other signs of myo which could cause heart cell death without major pain/collapse?
Fancy funding that one, Bill?

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RTSC
RTSC
3 years ago

The continued use of these dangerous gene therapies in young people who are at no risk of death from the virus is disgusting. And any Government which endorses it is EVIL.

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago
Reply to  RTSC

Hardly anyone is at risk of death from this virus, if only effective early treatments were made known and available.

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Ah yes, those rigged vitamin D trials bearing no resemblance to OMNS advice was another criminal enterprise.

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Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago

Do you think bozo or savage jabit are paying attention?

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CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

No because their entire narrative and political futures are based on the jabs being the best thing since sliced bread and woe betide anyone who disagrees .

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Mr Taxpayer
Mr Taxpayer
3 years ago

And they wonder why Novak Djokovic and 25% of Premier League footballers don’t want it.

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rtaylor
rtaylor
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr Taxpayer

Wonder how their medical team are feeling right now when players come to them for advice.

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr Taxpayer

Nojab or Novax Djokovic surely?

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

I like Novax!! I would not count myself to be in his fan club but if he doesn’t play in the Aussie open then it is likely because he is unjabbed and if so then more power to his elbow – he might have acquired a new fan!

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr Taxpayer

15% not had it, 25% of EFL players have no plans to have it. I suspect the PL figure is higher so they don’t have issues for European matches in places like Italy where you have to put your health at risk to play now.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago

And that is just myocarditis. The list of side effects is long…

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Amtrup
Amtrup
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Indeed, as Bhakdi and Burkhardt and Yeadon have been saying with increasing urgency and desperation this last couple of weeks the effects are probably going to be disastrous, extending as they do to damage to the immune system.

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watersider
watersider
3 years ago
Reply to  Amtrup

An interesting take on this issue is highlighted over at The conservative treehouse.com
There is the statement by Dy Malone on the dangers to children of these gene therapies which got him censored by The Big Tech.
As our host is wont to say “well worth a reading in full”

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rtaylor
rtaylor
3 years ago
Reply to  Amtrup

They is going to be a long die off.

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

The approach of the authorities all along has been to focus on specific conditions associated with the vaccine, rather than look at the big picture. That way they can portray that particular condition as “extremely rare” and by implication downplay the risks from the vaccine as a whole.

However even their own Yellow Card data (which the MHRA concedes underreports adverse effects) shows that 1 in every 128 people vaccinated has raised a Yellow Card (or had one raised on their behalf), and 1 in every 28,000 people vaccinated has died shortly afterwards.

That is massive in comparison to previous vaccination programmes.

Same story in the US with VAERS.

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Dodgy Geezer
Dodgy Geezer
3 years ago

Well, I read the paper which the link pointed to.

It said that there was an increase in myocarditis cases after Covid vaccinations of about 1-10 per million. However, Covid infections caused an increase of about 40 cases per million.

I can’t see how to reconcile the statement above with the heading of the report….

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Amtrup
Amtrup
3 years ago
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer

See Will’s remarks ref age band differences, esp males under 40.

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Norman
Norman
3 years ago
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer

You need to factor in the fact that the vaccines are being given to a far larger number of people over a shorter time period than those catching symptomatic Covid and then account for the fact that the vaccine doesn’t stop you catching it in the first place.

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer

Yeah they had to do a further analysis on the original paper as so many scientists complained that they hadn’t separated cohorts by gender (which obscured the result). This chart was added to the paper later.

There is no way that they didn’t know the risk was higher in men when they first wrote the paper, so this smacks to me of the paper being an attempt at propaganda and the way it is written reflects that. The problem, despite the non comparable way of judging myocarditis in the COVID infected vs the vaccinated which skews things further, was simply too big to hide though.

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maggie may
maggie may
3 years ago
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer

Try this, explains it well.

https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/myocarditis-in-young-males-after?r=ouggk&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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Ruth Learner
Ruth Learner
3 years ago

Phew! For a moment there I thought risk benefit for over 40 year olds fell on the side of myocarditis – now we can rest easy knowing your short straw is more likely to be cardiac arrest, embolism, guerres barre, massive drop in immunity leading to returning cancers, viral and bacterisl sickness etc, oh and btw the reason they want jab approval for kids is to protect their liability status once they stop being issued as experimental – You are talking crime syndicates who work the system – including all associated universities and journals. Get real people.

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago

I’d add to that, that:
1) risk also not good for 2 doses of AZ or Pfizer
2) <40 is a huge age range, and risk in the 16-24 category is known to be much higher
3) >40 also a huge age range….can we be sure benefit outweighs risk in the 40-50 category, or are a high number of infection induced events in the over 70s skewing the numbers?
4) this is ONLY for myocarditis….which they insisted was “extremely rare”….just like VITT and all the other side effects. How rare are they really?
5) this isn’t really comparing like with like: the vaccine induced myocarditis people were those complaining of symptoms. In the infection induced people, is it not just elevated troponin while in hospital? That’s going to confound things rather as being unwell can lead to elevated troponin in itself, as I understand it. Are the levels of troponin comparable?

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Amtrup
Amtrup
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Extremely good points! Thank you 🙂

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J4mes
J4mes
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

If 14% of jabbed male population is considered extremely rare, what can we say about the chances of death from ‘covid-19’? Last I checked it, it was less than 0.01%.

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Er, it’s ~100 cases of myocarditis per million vaccinated. Or 0.01%.

So similarly “rare”. But of course in the 16-24 group that myocarditis risk could be 1 in 500 and the risk of death 1 in a million.

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SallyM
SallyM
3 years ago

I’d like to believe that this risk is concentrated in the young, as all these researchers believe, but I suspect side effects in older persons are nearly always written off as spontaneous events related to pre-existing conditions or ageing. I don’t trust any of this “science”.

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  SallyM

I believe it is greater in the young: it certainly seems to impact men more, and those with the highest testosterone levels (ie aged 16-24).

But you are right, and I think the risk probably outweighs benefit in a broader range of the population – especially given that the efficacy of the vaccines is dubious at best, and very short lived (if it exists at all), followed by increased chance of being infected….in which case, might you still not get myocarditis? Seems like a totally bum deal to me.

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SallyM
SallyM
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

It may only seem to affect young men more because that idea has become fixed in the minds of doctors (like the belief that only AstraZeneca/J&J cause blood cots and not the mRNA vaccines). Doctors’ beliefs are often self-fulfilling.

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zners
zners
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Right and we have no 8dea of their impact on female fertility. It has been known for a long time now that thebspokes also accumulate in the ovaries. Some information from Steve Kirsch indicated a large spike in failure rates in IVF clinics. The biggest threat regardless of age or gender is the micro clotting.

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Vxi7
Vxi7
3 years ago
Reply to  SallyM

My mother and her friends (around age of 70) have finally realised they all have the same symptoms after the pfizer inoculation but all of them said is probably due to age before talking extensively to each other.

At the moment: tingling in fingers (jabbed side), random joint pains, difficulty to move, some experienced menstrual bleeding, my mothers hormon levels got messed up, and my mother had an emergency with elevated heart rate (200/min) 3 weeks after vaccination (no history, cardiologist put it down immediately as age related)

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Vxi7

I have an elderly parent whose health has plummeted since being double jabbed [they can’t WAIT to get boosted] and they continually put the ailments down to their age – seemingly forgetting how well they were prior to the jabbing. Shingles, infections [likely damaged immune system] vascular bleeding under the skin [abnormal clotting?] and the recurrance of autoimmune illness which had been successfully treated and resolved prior to the jabbing. I will never forgive what has been done to that parent in the name of “medicine”

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Hester
Hester
3 years ago

They have known this for months, along with the other major side effects these failure products are causing, and nothing has been done, because they don’t care, the Pharma boys own the western Governments, Fauci, and the medical organisations, its about money and power, its never been about health, and it never will be

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CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
3 years ago
Reply to  Hester

Yes and I don’t see how they can change course now without exposing themselves as incompetent gullible fools at best or criminals with a sinister agenda at worst.

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  CovidiotAntiMasker

The latter.

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BoJo The Great
BoJo The Great
3 years ago

There are moments in history, where technology, worked on for years is rolled out….effecting millions of people , just to see if the “science” works. I believe the atomic bomb is probably the only other example on this scale. To a lesser extent “Smart motorways”.
All have a catastrophic impact and end up killing thousands.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  BoJo The Great

I think it’s a case of everything looks like a nail when you have a hammer, yes, good point. Solutions looking for problems. I often think that a lot of the impetus for the folly and evil came from “scientists”, politicians and advisers itching to get their teeth into a true crisis and try some untried “solutions”. Didn’t Cummings write “Manhattan project” on the whiteboard when advocating for lockdowns? I wonder if he saw a chance for glory and nothing was going to convince him it wasn’t needed and take away his chance to be part of history rather than do boring admin.

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maggie may
maggie may
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

That reminds me of listening many years ago to a presentation about the new and soon-to-arrive 3G phone technology. It was pretty clear at the time they didn’t have much idea what to do with it. Suggestion from presenter ‘you could be driving past your favourite supermarket and you can get a message on your phone thanks to 3G saying hey, your favourite coffee is now at 30% off, why not drive in and buy some?’ And i thought WTF would i want to hear that? They have unfortunately come up with ‘better’, more sinister ideas since.

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  maggie may

I’ve worked in IT for about 30 years now and sadly the IT world is full of technologists coming up with solutions for non-existent problems, the “internet of things” being the most recent and egregious example.

Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should.

The other issue which has been a constant thorn in the flesh of these technologists over the years has been “human factors”. You can have the cleverest technology in the world but if it doesn’t take into account human behaviour and meet a real human need it will never be universally adopted.

As a long-time IT professional it was clear to me that the Test and Trace programme was doomed to failure just focusing solely on the technology aspect (ignoring the fact that T&T was pointless and counter-productive once the virus was established) because lots of people don’t and won’t have smart phones, those who do don’t all have the latest versions of hardware and software to run the app, and just because someone has access to an app doesn’t mean they will download it or use it.

If you are going to roll out technology for universal use it needs to work on all platforms which means using the simplest technology possible, have a workable non-technological alternative for the technology-averse, and deliver a tangible benefit to the user.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

Its experimental, with indemnity from liability, with full disclosure sealed for 75 years, why aren’t more people suspicious.

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maggie may
maggie may
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Probably because ‘not a lot of people know that’

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8bit
8bit
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

If you reverse this and go back in time, 2021 – 75 = 1946, the year of the Nuremberg trials (2022 works too, as they continued into 1947.)

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Again, tried to make this point to a very sucked in by it all friend the other day – they still think it is “safe and effective and everybody has a duty to get it to ‘protect other people”

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John
John
3 years ago

According to Olejniczak et a (2020) myocarditis has a prevalence of 10-22 per 100000.

Olejniczak M, Schwartz M, Webber E, Shaffer A, Perry TE. Viral Myocarditis-Incidence, Diagnosis and Management. J Cardiothorac Vasc Anesth. 2020 Jun;34(6):1591-1601.

Myocarditis is associated with influenza, but appears to be less severe than myocarditis caused by coxsackie.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3533457/

Myocarditis is also to be more prevalent in under 45 year old males.
https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/165/5/570/67614

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TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
3 years ago
Reply to  John

In the 1990s I did a course to become a sports instructor, included a decent level of physiology etc. The question of training whilst suffering from a cold or virus or whatever was raised. It was clearly already well established amongst sports trainers and physiologists that undertaking significant exercise when sick could drive a virus into heart and lung tissue – mostly you won’t be inclined to go on a 10 mile run when feeling under the weather, but professionals might be tempted to maintain training regimes.

So the issue of myocarditis or whatever arising after an illness is not novel or peculiar to corona, and has been recognised for decades.

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John
John
3 years ago
Reply to  TheTartanEagle

i attended a presentation by a cardiologist in the mid 2010’s at Loughborough university about the risks of cardiac problems associated with sport, with or without illness.

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GlassHalfFull
GlassHalfFull
3 years ago

And the lemmings will still keep saying that all the sports people suffering health problems are due to Covid and not the jabs.

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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
3 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

Despite no spike in collapses during 2020. It only started when the “jabbing” started.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
3 years ago

Hippisley-Cox et al are yet again using a self-control methodology where the risk clearly doesn’t return to zero during each side-effect time window (only 28 days), resulting in treatment risk contaminating the baseline — and this results in a significant underestimate of risk.

translation — their research shows the myocarditis risk to be substantially lower than it is in reality.

This is very bad science, but because it is complex it is being taken at face value. The reviewers should be ashamed.

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

Thank you.

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John
John
3 years ago

smallpox vaccination can also cause myocarditis, often sub clinical.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0118283

Males are significantly more at risk than females in the age range 5-16
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/JAHA.116.005306

https://globalheartjournal.com/articles/abstract/10.1016/j.gheart.2014.01.007/

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original poster
original poster
3 years ago

Something else to contemplate: Only a small percentage of under 40s will get covid in a given year, whereas if you force or strongly encourage (putting it nicely!) vaccination annually or biannually, you are needlessly exposing millions to risk.

On top of that, myocarditis is hardly the only risk to young people from vaccination.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
3 years ago

Another problem with the trial: They make out that they compare myocarditis risk after vaccination with that of covid — but they only included vaccinated individuals in the study. It doesn’t tell you what the risk of myocarditis is following infection in those that are unvaccinated.

As everyone will catch covid at some point, really they should add together the risk from all three doses to the risk from myocarditis following infection — that would then give the actual risk of the vaccines.

They could then model the impact of the additional 3 doses per year that have been bought are apparently needed for ongoing protection, as well as the likelihood that we’ll all be catching covid every couple of years no matter what happens.

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The Dogman
The Dogman
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

You make a good point but I am not sure about your last sentence. I don’t think it is likely that people will become frequently infected with Covid; the evidence suggests that immunity from infection will be long-term.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
3 years ago

The fact you’ll be rolling these dice every dose makes the risk reward for anyone healthy, well, obvious

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Paul_Somerset
Paul_Somerset
3 years ago

And this would have been in comparison with the old strains of the virus.
The elevated risk of vaccination in comparison with the new, trivial Omicron strain might turn out to be off-the-scale.

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Boomer Bloke
Boomer Bloke
3 years ago

I’ve just had a response from the UK Government Petitions Team regarding the petition against vaccines mandates. Link below. As expected it is choc full of weasel words and claims of black being white. One example being:

“COVID-19 vaccine as a condition of deployment for frontline health and social care and care home staff is not a mandatory vaccination policy”

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/602282?reveal_response=yes

The litany of lies about the vaccines authorisation and testing also takes fiction to its absolute limit. The vaccines have emergency use authorisation and not marketing approval. And the report above talks about myocarditis. These mRNA vaccines are novel and fool the body into producing a biologically active protein. Ts seems that no long term studies were carried out to determine its biological activity, and the elevated frequency of myocarditis described appears to be an outcome.

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brachiopod
brachiopod
3 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

Although I’m not holding my breath, https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/12/29/finally-police-open-criminal-probe-into-uk-vaccine-rollout/ this could be a start.
There can be no doubt that a massive criminal act has been followed through against a largely misinformed public, it just requires that the medical professionals who have kept quiet for various reasons now come forward with evidence for the Metropolitan Police’s investigation. Some of the law breaking has been so egregious that it is very difficult to see how government legal advisors can spin it otherwise.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  brachiopod

I’m sorry – but this report seems to confuse what are 2 very separate legal proceedings, A) Sam White’s case against the MHRA for the failure to follow up on the issue of vaccine safety, seeking a High Court injunction which would have the effect of suspending the jabbing campaign and B) a criminal complaint made to the police about the harms being caused by the jabbing campaign.

Not much is yet known about B – the bulk of that report you linked to is taken from the text of the case submitted regarding the MHRA case.

Either way, regarding both A and B litigation, much will depend on the relevant policing and judicial bodies acting in the way they are supposed to act when presented with cases of the nature which have been brought. In the current climate, while I very much wish them the greatest of success, I will not be holding my breath waiting for the outcome – I don’t see them doing other than the government’s bidding as the rule of law no longer seems to apply in the UK and has not done so throughout this whole almost 2 year period.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

“There are extensive checks and balances required by law at every stage of the development of a vaccine. The data looked at includes all the results from laboratory studies, clinical trials, manufacturing and quality controls and testing of the product. The public should be very confident that all tests were completed to the very highest standards.”

Seriously??? They really expect people to think they actually believe this shit when the jabs which should ordinarily take 10 years to develop were rushed through in less than 10 months???

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

That’s what they said; absolute junk, of course. The other day on this site, this Canadian movie came to light: https://www.canadiancovidcarealliance.org/media-resources/the-pfizer-inoculations-for-covid-19-more-harm-than-good-2/ Worth a watch – and it ends with a list of media output funded by a well known drug firm.

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Mike Oxlong
Mike Oxlong
3 years ago

In my local online paper this morning, they did a piece on 30 local ‘celebrities’ who had died during 2021. The interesting thing as I read through the names were that around half died in their early to mid 50’s. Most were after June too. And most were ‘died suddenly.’ Pretty sure none of them were jab-related. Much.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike Oxlong

https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/cocacola-classic-in-a-glass-bottle-picture-id499208007

Lots of Slebs dying seem to have prematurely aged vascular systems

Last edited 3 years ago by TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
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eon
eon
3 years ago

Can anyone tell me how they know myocarditis is worst after “infection” for 40+?

It seems like a sweeping statement that needs a few constraints added.

How did they test the people with mostly mild CV19 to ascertain they now had myocarditis?

40-90 is a huge age range to make a precise statement of heart health, and inside a journal paper too. I seem to remember Simpson’s Paradox being waved smuuggly around a few months ago by the BBC for something similar with vaccines.

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Bry
Bry
3 years ago

Were those who were infected unvaccinated?

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  Bry

Some were

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rtaylor
rtaylor
3 years ago

That’s myocarditis, what about 360x increase in adenopathy – disease of the lymph nodes.

This mirrors what Bhakdi has said about the ‘three salient aspects dominated in tissue areas’. (Ref)

A number of salient aspects dominated in all affected tissues of all cases:

  1. inflammatory events in small blood vessels (endotheliitis), characterized by an abundance of T-lymphocytes and sequestered, dead endothelial cells within the vessel lumen;
  2. the extensive perivascular accumulation of T-lymphocytes;
  3. a massive lymphocytic infiltration of surrounding non-lymphatic organs or tissue with T-lymphocytes.
Last edited 3 years ago by rtaylor
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Chris_uk
Chris_uk
3 years ago

Has anyone seen this important information on the BBC News website?

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Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago

 https://ambassadorlove.wordpress.com/2021/12/08/covid-19-patent-horrors/

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago

How about a minor tweak to the headline. Convert “side effects” to “injuries” – that would be more precise, after all.

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Newman20
Newman20
3 years ago

I’ve been told by my employer – a health care setting – that I have to be stuck with this toxic gene therapy. I have no direct contact with patients.

Irrespective of that, I can still catch and transmit this virus even after numerous doses of the jab. Therefore having it is an exercise in futility.

I’m over 60 and in good health and not really bothered about catching a cold. I am damn worried about the side effects of these jabs.

I am about to concoct a letter to my employer including the above and also quoting the Nuremberg Convention.

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ozdocabroad
ozdocabroad
3 years ago

Sorry, much as I believe the medical gene therapies are harmful, this study doesn’t show that vaccinated people have more cases of myocarditis than unvaccinated. It quite categorically states that myocarditis is more common after infection than after the vaccination. It states that myocarditis incidence increases after the inoculation, but is still lower than after the infection. It also calls for studies to show what happens after a booster as the numbers are too small.
I am quite happy to believe that the number of people with covid is vastly overestimated. I am a GP and in the past, a case of anything had to be suffering from the disease itself, not have a positive result from a decidedly dodgy test. If that is the case, myocarditis may well be more common after inoculation.

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