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Guardian Article Claims Covid in Hospitals Has “Largely Become a Disease of the Unvaccinated” – Yet Data Shows 71% of Adults Hospitalised with Covid Are Vaccinated

by Will Jones
23 November 2021 7:00 AM

An article appeared in the Guardian this week written by an anonymous NHS respiratory consultant claiming that “in hospital, COVID-19 has largely become a disease of the unvaccinated”.

Of course, there are people who have their vaccinations but still get sick. These people may be elderly or frail, or have underlying health problems. Those with illnesses affecting the immune system, particularly patients who have had chemotherapy for blood cancers, are especially vulnerable. Some unlucky healthy people will also end up on our general wards with Covid after being vaccinated, usually needing a modest amount of oxygen for a few days.

But the story is different on our intensive care unit. Here, the patient population consists of a few vulnerable people with severe underlying health problems and a majority of fit, healthy, younger people unvaccinated by choice. … If everyone got vaccinated, hospitals would be under much less pressure; this is beyond debate. Your wait for your clinic appointment/operation/diagnostic test/A&E department would be shorter. Your ambulance would arrive sooner. Reports of the pressure on the NHS are not exaggerated, I promise you. … Most of the resources that we are devoting to Covid in hospital are now being spent on the unvaccinated.

This reads to me like a blatant attempt to stigmatise the unvaccinated as selfish, a burden on society and a threat to the vaccinated. (The clue is in the headline: “ICU is full of the unvaccinated – my patience with them is wearing thin.”) Given the polling (which may not be very reliable of course) showing that 45% of U.K. adults would support an indefinite lockdown of the unvaccinated, this is all starting to look and sound rather ugly.

The most frustrating thing about this anonymously written article is it doesn’t cite any data even though its arguments are based on claims which only data can validate. It consists instead only of a single medic’s subjective impressions, with no sources provided to see if his claims holds water.

Are the hospitalised mostly unvaccinated? Not according to Government data from the UKHSA. Here is the breakdown of hospitalisations by vaccination status in England for the four weeks up to November 14th from the latest Vaccine Surveillance report.

Adding these figures up we find that 3,200 of 9,831 or 33% of Covid hospitalisations are of unvaccinated people, leaving 67% of Covid hospital patients in the vaccinated category, most of them with two doses. Focusing just on adults, we find 2,692 of 9,278 or 29% of Covid hospitalisations are unvaccinated, leaving 71% vaccinated. Seeing as just 68% of the U.K. population is double vaccinated, 67% of Covid hospital patients having received at least one dose hardly seems like a strong result. Indeed, it suggests the unvaccinated are barely over-represented in hospitals at all.

What about Covid deaths – are the unvaccinated over-represented there? Here’s the table from the same report.

Adding them up we find that 675 of 3,676 or 18% of Covid deaths in the month up to November 14th are in unvaccinated people, leaving 82% in the vaccinated, most with two doses. Only in the under-40s do deaths in the unvaccinated outnumber those in the vaccinated.

It’s hard to square this data with the picture painted by the anonymous medic. Far from COVID-19 having “largely become a disease of the unvaccinated”, with most Covid hospital resources “now being spent on the unvaccinated”, a large majority of hospitalisations and deaths are occurring in the vaccinated, not the unvaccinated.

But what about ICU admissions? And is it true that the vaccinated-sick all have underlying health issues whereas the unvaccinated-sick are all healthy?

The problem with addressing these claims is that we don’t have the data to check them out. The data on ICU admissions by vaccination status has not been updated since July as far as I can see (if you are aware of a more recent update do let me know), and I am not aware of any data on co-morbidities (again, if you are aware of any please drop me a line).

The anonymous writer states: “I can’t think of a single case offhand of a person who was previously fit and healthy who has ended up needing intensive care after being fully vaccinated. It may not stop you from catching Covid. But it can save your life when you do.” But again, this is anecdotal and therefore not terribly helpful.

It’s fair to note that much data does appear to show that the vaccines protect people well against severe disease and death, at least for several months, though some recent analysis has questioned whether such efficacy has been overestimated.

But however well the vaccines protect against severe disease, that is no excuse for turning the unvaccinated into pariahs or scapegoats and blaming them for the strains on the health service. Such moralised blaming of a minority for supposedly disadvantaging the majority (‘Can’t get a doctor’s appointment? Surgery been cancelled again? The unvaccinated are to blame!’) has a very ugly history and rarely ends well. It’s particularly odd to see this scapegoating in a supposedly liberal newspaper. It needs to stop now.

Stop Press: Jamie Jenkins, known as @statsjamie on Twitter, has done a fact check on this article and come to broadly the same conclusion.

Guardian article not supported by national data 👇

1️⃣ Most admissions among vaccinated

2️⃣ This not surprising as most of the population is vaccinated

3️⃣ Unvaccinated more likely to be admitted but population much lower

Story seems outlier if true.https://t.co/e1XyfeBkaK

— Jamie Jenkins (@statsjamie) November 21, 2021
Tags: DeathsGuardianSevere diseaseVaccine efficacyVaccines

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Mogwai
Mogwai
1 year ago

Here is a very good interview between Maryanne Demasi and Dr Phillip Buckhaults. She asked the FDA for their response on this DNA contamination. I expect it is the same as any other regulator. Absolutely disgusting and criminal. Something so significant, so potentially devastating to human health, including that of the jabbed person’s offspring, and they’re completely disinterested!

”I presented the findings of Buckhaults and McKernan to the US FDA.
I asked the FDA if it had begun an investigation into the issue of DNA contamination and whether it would review its guidance to industry about residual DNA in vaccines.
I also asked the FDA if it had instructed Pfizer and Moderna to conduct further testing to demonstrate the absence or presence of genome modification and whether it would issue new warnings to the public about the potential risks, now that DNA contamination in the vaccines had been established and replicated.

The FDA responded but did not answer specific questions, nor did it acknowledge the problem of contamination and potential safety issues. In a written statement it said:

The mRNA COVID-19 vaccines authorized or approved for use in the United States are not defined as a gene therapy.

The FDA is confident in the quality, safety, and effectiveness of these vaccines. The agency’s benefit-risk assessment and ongoing safety surveillance demonstrates that the benefits of their use outweigh their risks.”  

https://maryannedemasi.substack.com/p/exclusive-an-interview-with-buckhaults?r=p03ac&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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Mogwai
Mogwai
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

More from Dr Bhakdi et al here;

 ”In the vaccine production process, the plasmid-DNA templates must be removed from the generated mRNA before the latter is packaged into LNPs.. Otherwise, plasmids will also end up in the fat globules. McKernan discovered that this crucial step of removing plasmid-DNA had not been assiduously undertaken. Huge amounts of plasmid-DNA were found in packaged form that guaranteed their successful delivery to cells, where they would be able to function for extended time periods.

To top everything, contamination of vaccine batches with functional plasmid-DNA must be expected to be the rule and not the exception, because no cost-effective procedure exists to reliably separate mass-produced RNA from the plasmids. The introduction of a foreign chromosome equates with alteration of the genome. Long-lasting auto-immune attack on the cells is inevitable.

Integration of plasmid-DNA into the human chromosome must moreover be expected to occasionally occur. Myriad cellular functions can then be permanently disrupted. Malignancies may arise and life expectancy may drop.”

https://doctors4covidethics.org/the-eternal-dangers-of-rna-vaccines/

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psychedelia smith
psychedelia smith
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Dear down voters, I don’t get it. Do you think this stuff is made up by ‘anti-vaxxers’? Do you think that there is not DNA in these tested vials? Or do you think there is DNA but it doesn’t matter and it’s harmless? Or do you know it’s a serious problem but you’re paid peanuts by the industry to troll this type of thing? Are you just indoctrinated incurious sheep with your brains in your arse? Or are you genuinely scared of what you’ve put into your bodies and are in desperate denial? I’d love to know. .

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Jon Smith
Jon Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  psychedelia smith

I’d go for the latter… Its going to be an extremely difficult thing for them to come to terms with, many most likely never will take the step to the other side…

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

“are not defined as gene therapy”
Are not defined as vaccines either
Are not defined as safe either
Are not defined as effective either

“When I use a word” said Humpty Dumpty in a rather scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it mean neither more nor less “

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stewart
stewart
1 year ago

I wonder if someone on here could explain what exactly is DNA contamination and why or how it is harmful?

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

That’s a very good question. The article WHO has a recommended level for it so one presumes that having too much is bad (though it feels odd to be citing the WHO as a reliable source of information).

I’m just guessing here but the DNA is obviously going to be foreign to your body, presume that having alien DNA in you might interfere with things – maybe RNA doesn’t change your DNA but other DNA can merge with yours and start to make the cells you are manfacturing in your body be different to how they were meant to be?

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Mogwai
Mogwai
1 year ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Seeing as I’m obviously on ‘spoon-feeding duty’ this morning, this one is especially for you. Hope this is as clear as a bell.

”Buckhaults explained how two different manufacturing processes were used to make Pfizer’s vaccine.
The initial production of Pfizer’s covid vaccine used a method called Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) to amplify the DNA template that was then used for production of the mRNA. This method, called PROCESS 1, can be used to make a highly pure mRNA product.

However, in order to upscale the process for large-scale distribution of the vaccine to the population for its “emergency authorisation” supply, Pfizer switched to a different method – PROCESS 2 – to amplify the mRNA.
PROCESS 2 used bacteria to make large quantities of “DNA plasmid” (circular DNA instructions), which would be used to make the mRNA. Hence, the final product contained both plasmid DNA and mRNA.
The switch from PROCESS 1 to PROCESS 2, ultimately resulted in the contamination of the vaccine.”

https://brownstone.org/articles/researchers-alarmed-to-find-dna-contamination-in-pfizer-vaccine/

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Thanks Mogs 👍👏

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Mogwai
Mogwai
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

Why don’t you just read the substack I provided above?

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WyrdWoman
WyrdWoman
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

You know that mass produced covid vaccine is cultured in E Coli, a bacterium which contains additional plasmids – bits of highly manipulable bacterial DNA – you don’t want. Especially when it’s packaged in attractive LNP (fat) globules specifically designed to cross cell membranes. But the production process is so bad it gets left in and TPTB don’t care.

Think Fatal Attraction. Dan only wanted Alex, a readily available woman (spike protein) in sexy, glamorous package (LNP) for a brief, no-strings fling (keep covid away) but ends up with the whole package of psychobitch from hell (additional plasmid) who destroys his life (et voila).

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
1 year ago
Reply to  WyrdWoman

Hence the rise in sudden boiling of otherwise healthy bunnies that the mainstream press continue to ignore…

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stewart
stewart
1 year ago
Reply to  WyrdWoman

I get the analogy.

But my body is exposed to other DNA all the time and deals with it.

I’m still searching for an explanation for dummies of what is especially bad about residual DNA material in jabs and what exactly it does to the body that makes it dangerous.

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TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

Yes, your body is exposed to DNA, but it’s not being injected into the control centre of your individual cells. The LNPs in the jabs enable stuff to get through the cell membrane, which normally would be kept out.

Once DNA has been aided into the cell, there is a chance of it messing with your own code and stuff being activated or deactivated that results in bad news for health. Like a computer virus being injected into your application code and deleting data or corrupting it.

Also, the blood stream is not supposed to have chunks of E coli DNA in it, I think this is where the endotoxins sudden death reaction comes in.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  TheTartanEagle

Thanks
Makes sense

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ebygum
ebygum
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

I think this explains what you want to know?

https://www.aussie17.com/p/check-and-mate

…for reference this is the “possible” problem with the SV40 promotor

“The polyomavirus simian virus 40 (SV40) is a known oncogenic DNA virus which induces primary brain and bone cancers, malignant mesothelioma, and lymphomas in laboratory animals. Persuasive evidence now indicates that SV40 is causing infections in humans today and represents an emerging pathogen. A meta-analysis of molecular, pathological, and clinical data from 1,793 cancer patients indicates that there is a significant excess risk of SV40 associated with human primary brain cancers, primary bone cancers, malignant mesothelioma, and non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma.”

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TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
1 year ago
Reply to  ebygum

SV40 got into humans from the early vaccines, back in the day when they cultured the potions in minced monkey organs. There was an epidemic of childhood leukaemias in the 1960s from the multiple jabs that were introduced. SV40 has been in the literature for decades, finally coming to more mainstream attention.

Another one is parvo in dogs, introduced by the first pet vaccines, another successful cross species transfer.

Pharma profit seeking potions, b*ggering your health for 200 years now.

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stewart
stewart
1 year ago
Reply to  TheTartanEagle

Thanks all.

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TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
1 year ago
Reply to  TheTartanEagle

Must have been the late shift on down ticking duty.

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felixofstow58
felixofstow58
1 year ago
Reply to  TheTartanEagle

Didn’t mean to give this a thumbs down but rather a thumbs up

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Jon Smith
Jon Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  TheTartanEagle

If one digs extremely deeply … The 1918-20 Spanish Influenza pandemic death rate wasn’t soley caused by the “virus” .

I’ve put virus in apostrophes as I question “germ theory”

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LaptopMaestro
LaptopMaestro
1 year ago

No jabs = fewer concerns.

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