Convicted rapist Cyril Hardy (pictured above) was caught by a paedophile hunter group after believing that he was meeting a fourteen year-old girl, and was then arrested by the police in Manchester in 2017. However, Hardy, who is 80 years-old, is not to serve any time in prison for his crime, as the judge declared that he was too vulnerable to Covid due to a combination of heart disease and diabetes. The MailOnline has the story.
A pensioner with a history of sexual crimes dating back 50 years has been spared jail after trying to meet up with an adult posing as a 14 year-old girl, because he’s vulnerable to Covid.
Convicted rapist Cyril Hardy, who is 80 years-old, was caught red-handed by a paedophile hunter group, Manchester’s Minshull Street Crown Court heard.
Hardy pleaded guilty to attempting to engage in sexual communication with a child and attempting to meet a girl under 16 years old for grooming.
He had previously served seven years in prison over a conviction of rape.
The court heard how Stacey McDonald, 29, a member of paedophile hunter group Parents Standing Together For Our Kids, set up a decoy as a ’14-year-old girl’ called Atara Louise on MeetMe and WhatsApp.
Alexandra Sutton, prosecuting, said that between October 21st, 2017, and November 20th 2017, Hardy told ‘Atara’ he wanted her to live with him, marry him and have his children.
Ms Sutton said: ‘She said her mother was going away for a week.
‘He asked her to meet him in the city centre for shopping and said he would take her to buy some new outfits.
‘He asked if she wanted a silver or yellow gold wedding ring.’
The court heard how on November 18th, 2017 Hardy arranged to meet ‘Atara’ at Manchester Victoria station and sent her a photograph of his car registration number.
Once there he was confronted by members of Parents Standing Together For Our Kids, filmed and arrested by police.
A bottle of perfume, an iPhone, and an iTunes gift card were found in his vehicle.
When reprimanded, Ms Sutton said Hardy, who has 16 convictions for 20 offences, said he thought ‘Atara’ was actually older than she was.
Hardy, from Rochdale, Greater Manchester, said that the talk about marriage and children was ‘just a laugh.’
Daniel Gaskrell, mitigating, described Hardy, who originally pleaded not guilty but later changed his plea, as ‘a lonely old man who was seeking comfort of strangers, and has been in and out of marriages.’
Judge Paul Lawton criticised two-year delays to the case and said he would have had no reservations of sending Hardy to prison, despite his age.
But, due to the length of time it had taken for the case to conclude, Judge Lawton said he now had the problem that Hardy is vulnerable to Covid, due to suffering from ischemic heart disease and being diabetic.
Judge Lawton said: ‘You are a ticking time bomb in custody as far as Covid is concerned.’
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That is not a good reason not to imprison him.
I can’t see any good reason to waste resources imprisoning him.
There’s a few here who might be banged up for their murderous thoughts on these criteria 🙂
Hey well done you for maintaining reason & good sense. Not to mention, the wisdom of not believing anything written in the DM or guardian as factual.
And you’re right the prison system is an antiquated brutal uncivilized method of punishment, it helps no one, hurts many innocent people (eg. family of the convicted) & has no reasoned place in modern humane society. I think, with limited exceptions, mass incarceration should be abolished, there are better ways to compensate victims & prevent recidivism. It costs taxpayers dearly with little over all benefit, incarceration is mostly just to dull the masse’s hunger for revenge.
Tax is theft!
Na, kill him
Not an opinion I used to share but mass incarceration in the USA clearly does not work while, conversely, in Norways liberal, last resort, cushy, no mod cons (accidental pun) spared, call me Sven open prisons, by prior appointment with no full life sentences except for the likes of Anders Breivik and set in wooded parkland; recidivism is the lowest in the world.
The only people that should be segregated from society are those that present a clear, obvious physical threat (murderers, MPS, Bill Gates etc.)
I’m not saying there shouldn’t be sanctions, or being kind to criminals, but there are better ways of doing it than imposing the incredible harm & cost incarceration has on the rest of society.
Hey, i’m not (in principle) against the death penalty, i’m just against government deciding who lives or dies. Throw all the violent psychopaths on an island tell them to get on with it, if they kill again, execute the offender, simples.
I have many other simple, practical solutions to problems liberals create, if anyone’s interested? For instance solving the trans public toilet rights problem, cheap & effective solution, change the signs gents – ladies to say penises – vaginas. Simple inclusive & non-discriminatory.
What would the definitions of “penis” and “vagina” be?
And the latest US Navy carrier doesn’t have urinals because not fair.
‘imrinals perhaps.
I’m not getting drawn into that debate, put it this way there’s going to be no door person checking if you’re qualified.
If you can’t work out what’s between your legs, you shouldn’t be out in public alone.
I’ve been against the death sentence ever since I realised how prone to error the justice system is, not against killing monsters per se.
I always thought your island solution a good way to deal with football hooligans, put them in an arena and let them get on with it. (Televised, why not?)
When I arrived in this city thirty years ago it was known that, on New Years Eve, all the violent tossers would congregate at a particular pub next to a vast public car park and do just that.
The police allowed it to happen just so long as it didn’t spill out onto the nearby main road and railway station.
Result was that other nitelife venues could carry on in a civilised way.
Then the do-gooders intervened.
You can compensate people for theft and criminal damage, but how do you compensate someone who had had acid thrown in her face, let alone a murder victim?
Does that come under clear obvious physical danger category?
Look if someone doesn’t pay a fine & they are sent to prison, their children lose a parent, in all likelihood, they will lose their job, their home & will find it difficult to find employment & somewhere to live when released, that will hang over their heads for life, making it difficult to find credit, a mortgage etc.
Who pays for all this? The taxpayer pays for the prisons, the housing the welfare! An innocent child is deprived of a parent & a stable secure home making it more probable of them offending in adulthood.
Prison self harms society with modern tech, there are other ways to sanction non violent lawbreakers.
Well said. I agree wholeheartedly. Whilst there are a few wicked people in prison who need to be there in order to protect the rest of us, the majority have social and mental health problems and are punished excessively for making stupid mistakes with their lives. They need help not punishment.
What they need is cash not government ‘support’ which means funding for lower middle class sub-professionals giving ‘advice’ on subjects about which they know nothing.
Give him daily vitamin D, 20mg Ivermectin once a week as a prophylactic, and 12mg per day for 5 days if he tests positive and he’ll be as right as rain in jail.
Until the cons get him.
If people don’t realize by now that there is a cabal of globalists in power who actually want to destroy the West by ridding it of it’s remaining freedom and security to bring in totalitarianism, it makes you wonder what has to happen to wake them up.
Unsurprisingly, the trolls at 77th Brigade don’t agree with you.
Since this place became TCW Lite, I doubt they really put much effort in.
I keep asking my brainwashed friends/family where the line in the sand is. When is enough enough?
Previously I asked: is the line when they start pressuring non-vulnerable to get ‘vaccinated’? Response: not gonna happen. Is the line when they pressure healthy young people? Not gonna happen. Children? Not gonna happen. Introducing a social credit system? Not gonna happen etc ad infitum…
And every time these lines are crossed, their brain has been further mushed by propaganda so they’re in total acceptance.
All it will take to throw us all into another lockdown is a new psy-op event that will shock a lot of people who have relaxed back into relative normality back into compliance.
Very few people recognise – or have come to terms with the fact that we’re effectively herded like livestock and lab rats. I stopped believing democracy was a real thing 10-20 years ago.
My recommendation to all is to revise your preconceptions and everything you have been taught. The wars, our enemies, covid…
Does two vaccines and a booster not work then?
interestingly – is censorship of the thousands of doctors and scientists with nothing to gain and everything to loose – desperately trying to warn people – not make the censors part of the problem?
28. Who can we believe?
As explained, fact checkers, MSM and others will attempt to smear and discredit anyone with a different view. But consider this: who is more likely to be telling you the truth? Is it people who have conflicts of interest, who stand to gain financially, whose jobs or research funding depend on staying in line or who have participated and are fully invested in the entire operation? Is it a governments that will be terrified of public anger should they discover the extent to which governments have been complicit in furthering the interests of industry at the expense of the population? Or is it experts, scientists and doctors who are at the very top of their fields of expertise with multiple degrees, PhDs and other credentials from the world’s top universities, Nobel Prize winning scientists, the inventor of the mRNA vaccine technology itself who stand to lose everything including their jobs, their reputation and money but feel they have a duty to their fellow human beings to warn them about something so wrong and consequential that they are willing to sacrifice all those things?
https://www.independentinformation.co.uk/resources/articles/covid-vaccines-safe-effective
This is exactly the argument I use when people ask me why I believe in ( so called ) “Conspiracy Theories” (a.k.a. the truth )
A viewpoint widely shared by somewhat maligned Daily Mail commenters who frequently point out how many now accepted circumstances were once, not so long ago, decried as “conspiracy theories”.
No need to list them as we all know which they are.
What I find really interesting is that right at the start of all this, March 2020, I could see clearly where it was going and that life would never be allowed to return to normal. I could foresee never ending lockdowns, local lockdowns, forced vaccination, vaccination passports and all the rest of it. Friends and family thought I was mad at the time of course and even though all of these things have come to pass, they still can’t accept that I’m right. As I’m fond of saying, I’d already decided I wasn’t having the ‘vaccine’ long before they pretended to invent it.
I say this not because I’m showing off about my own prescience, but because how exactly did I know? My own ‘conspiracy theory’ about the so-called pandemic is that it’s a smokescreen that has been used to distract us from an economic meltdown. I sometime wonder if the dissidents like us have been fed counter-propaganda to entrench us in our own set of ideas. If the aim was to generate schisms and hatred amongst the population, this would make sense.
I struggle with the idea that this is all about bringing in technocracy/digital ID – think about it – all of these things could just be brought in gradually anyway. There’s something about the way that governments are behaving which seems more existential and desperate, almost like they’re running out of time. I’m with Ernst Wolff – I think they’re working against the clock trying to bring in a new financial system whilst attempting to control the collapse of the old one.
It probably took me until the possibility of introducing Tiers For Fears was being aired this time last year following a summer of circumscribed ‘freedom’ that it dawned on me that this was never going to end despite the examples being shown by Sweden and Belarus or the counter example of Peru where lockdown was enforced brutality by the military with one of the worst outcomes in the world.
The similarity of lockdown policies throughout the world no matter the nature of each regime did strike me as odd much earlier though.
The economic meltdown being, in retrospect, the complete collapse of the housing market ( in the case of the UK and possibly USA) following years of quantitative easing and the ensuing property inflation.
TPTB needing all the required powers of coercion to deal with mass civilian protest that they expect, conspiracy theorist; who me?
The economic meltdown being, in retrospect, the complete collapse of the housing market ( in the case of the UK and possibly USA) following years of quantitative easing with the ensuing property inflation.
TPTB needing all the required powers of coercion to deal with mass civilian protest that they expect. Conspiracy theorist; who me?
Sorry for the part duplication, I was halfway through editing before being timed out.
Yes there’s a housing crisis and a Eurozone pension crisis too – Naomi Wolf has been talking about this as a possible underlying reason.
So, there’s a crash coming and TPTB know that western populations are going to be impoverished and will blame them for treating the economy like a casino for the past 40 years. China, holding all the cards and in the ascendency, helps out by hitting the pandemic button and provides the optics, helping to condition western populations for authoritarianism and prepare them for marshal law.
Big Pharma is given the green light and political cover to ‘do their thing’, a virus is either released (or isn’t, depending on which version of it’s all a massive lie you subscribe to) and here we are! Wonder if I can dig a bunker in the back garden?
The fact that there was no exit plan alerted me to the danger of the never ending restrictions.
I agree they are acting desperate. It would be a lot easier to ease everyone into a digital currency – society was moving that way anyway. Why try and wrench it while you still have a generation of 70+ elderly voters who are not smart phone literate? My elderly neighbour (in his 80s) will never have one! he doesn’t have wifi! Give it 20 years and this won’t matter, but they are in some unfathomable rush. There has to be a reason.
Two reasons:
1) The imminent collapse of the post-early 70s financial system;
2) ERoEI rapidly falling.
They require a much smaller, much more controlled population.
The lack of an Exit Pan was another puzzle.
I don’t use wi fi, nor The Cloud, invasion of privacy issues are patently obvious, not that I have anything to hide.
Whether I would use my own name following the Online Harms Act is a different matter.
Impending and inevitable economic meltdown seems the only plausible one to me… and this is almost preferable to the nightmarish techno-dystopian scenarios laid out by people in forums like this. Oh and depopulation by vaccine doesn’t sound too appealing either!
yep, after the 2007 financial crash nothing got fixed – the next one is the big one – the crash of the central banks – they are all bust – we have hit the iceberg and its just a matter of time….
Yeah that’s my understanding. Pandemic as smokescreen. It’s certainly kept the plebs distracted and divided and scared (either of the virus or the incoming technocracy) I mean look at how much time we spend commenting on here!
Hmm, its a dilemma!
Stop a rapist dying, or stop a rape?
I’m not an advocate of wholesale incarceration, but i’m not seeing the problem, other than the establishment’s hypocrisy after putting everyone under house arrest to stop them spreading a low risk infectious disease with a 99.7300% survival rate.
Local HMP staff have told me that while occasionall Covid outbreaks do occur, usually from new inmates even though they start in quarantine, prisons are among the easiest of places to contain it by prisoners being placed in actual Lockdown (confined to cells), staff contact minimised, after testing natch, visits cancelled and supplier entry kept to a minimum.
And herd immunity through infection… although UKHSA have admitted that herd immunity will be much more resilient in those who haven’t been injected with the non vaccine.
Each prison has its own unique strain of ordinary flu because of being such confined stable communities which most new prisoners and staff succumb to. The exact opposite of Freshers Flu it would seem.
I have not had the opportunity to ask HMP staff if prisoners can be compelled to be vaccinated or what sanctions or degree of force can be used if they refuse.
Compulsory vaccination for offenders would no doubt go down well with some sections of society; who next? Those on remand (still ‘innocent’), those in mental health institutions or youngsters in Local Authority loco parentis ‘Care’?
I omitted to say of course for his own safety he should be shielded & placed in solitary confinement for the duration of his sentence!
They generally only use ‘seg’ as punishment for uncontrollable prisoners and only then within strict parameters because Human Rights.
Sex crims and other ‘vulnerable’ prisoners are put together in a separate wing and, presumably, left to get on with it.
What’s human rights?
Certainly not ours or those of Staff and well behaved prisoners expecting aiming for early release.⛓
Of his life, rather.
Daily Mail comments, unusually, moderated with only three so far allowed. They are mildly hostile, one can only imagine how outraged the thousands of other were.
How many appeals against sentence will be launched on the basis of this?
Diabetic old lags, the obese,
drug addicts,victims of substance dependency?NB note the Mails use of a ‘sensationalist’ pedo rapist crime rather than a common or garden robber or GBH merchant.
As he is a convicted paedophile he would be in protected custody or even solitary confinement.
Not On Normal Courtyard Exercise.
Is that where it really comes from or did you just make it up? Genuine question.
cf Port Outboard Starboard Home, posh.
That is where it comes from…
Thanks, it’s good to learn something new every day😀
Prison populations have not been significantly affected by the lurgy. Perhaps its more likely he wouldn’t last five minutes inside because of what he’s done.
No loss there then.
So, the guilty walk free and the innocent are locked up.
Psychologists, Gates, Pharma et al walk free too
But guilty of what? Nothing to do with the other issues – just pointless ‘whataboutery’.
Illogical.
Not to support this old dumbass, but the vigilante pedo hunter groups are right in the same venue as the totalitarian vaccinators and woke cancellators. Probably way more dangerous.
Remember that in the future surveillance state any man’s life can be destroyed without due process by accusing him of posting a wrong comment or simply planting the required evidence. So you too can become a pedophile and be lynched by mob with just a few clicks done by some secret service guy – and without ever being aware that you did something wrong. (Which, by the way is another huge risk of linking your actual identity to the “online identity”.)
Just like with vaccinations, the population at large will believe the authorities because of trust in new “crime-solving technology and science” and long nourished hate against the scape goats.
Harassment because of lack of vaccination is like a warning shot compared to that. The next level is being accused of misoginy (already quite an acceptable weapon, and costing people jobs), and the final level is being accused of pedophilia (currently still a taboo because of what mass destruction it can cause when it strikes back at those who utilize this weapon – but you just wait).
Maybe, but this is a man who has been convicted of an offence and he has form – 50 years of it.
“ he has form“
… and what does the law say about that?
Usually nothing when it comes to conviction but plenty in passing sentence, set against mitigation.
Well, his past does not really matter in convicting him for any new crimes (it never should), and the “offence” that he was convicted of was what…? Posting lewd comments to some 16 year old online?… Really, what danger does this 80 year old prick pose to society? I bet the 16 year old could literally kick his stupid diabetic ass if she ever met him in person (and this is pretty much an adequate punishment for his newest transgressions, and used to be widely applied to this sort of people in old ages).
It says at least twice that he was led to believe that she was 14.
When I was younger than that, messing around with mates on the multi track London to Scotland railway line, some sad’old’ bloke in a mack waved his todger at us, we just pointed and laughed till he ran away.
Police have many times condemned such vigilante groups (more through fear of contaminating evidence or due process) but the comma in
“, filmed and arrested by police”
implies they were there during the confrontation; could just be sloppy journalism 🤔
When Alex Belfied (YouTube sceptic with 300million views in 12 months) had his phones and computers seized by the police his readers urged him to make sure (how?) they did not plant illegal material on them and to replace all the hard drives after they were returned following ‘No Further Action’ over the initial baseless investigation.
There was a case years ago when a group of such vigilantes attacked the home of a renowned medic/academic because she recieved the Journal Of Paediatrics (or somesuch) throught the mail.
Will Smith when asked how his film Enemy Of The State Predicted the surveillance state so far in advance said the writers went to the most whacky IT nerds to get an idea of what was maybe coming up.
Theoretically, the way to prevent police from tampering with the seized hard disks is to have them encrypted beforehand and to not divulge the password to the captors.
Of course, with today’s modern hardware there is always risk of police remotely planting a key logger on your device to capture your encryption password. This is the case since the introduction of UEFI/”Secure” Boot in BIOS – unlike in old days the BIOS on every modern computer contains a micro-operating system which can be used for the purpose of snooping. So whether encryption will protect you depends a lot on how resourceful and technically savvy the police were prior to seizing your hardware.
The only line of defense against baseless accusations intended to destroy your character is to claim no witnesses and no prior misconduct. However, it does not matter all that much because even if witnesses are not bought and your case is dismissed, your reputation can be damaged forever by the sole fact of having to defend it – which can of course be amplified hundredfold by focused online censorship. This is a nightmare scenario, but this is how dictatorships have always worked against their opposition.
Alex likes to pride himself on being completely open and honest, keeping strictly to YouTubes ‘community guidelines’ in order not to be cancelled. I doubt he used more than a domestic type password so he could not be accused of hiding stuff.
On a lighter note, many years ago I (allegedly) downloaded from YouTube a set of standard historical biographies, filed on my hard drive in a folder I named Bios.
Later deciding they were rubbish I ‘deleted’ them.
Windows kindly asked me if I was sure and they did so.
You will know the result > new PC required.
Prior to that I had unwittingly searched for some random piece of popular music on the platform known as ‘Limewire’ but what arrived was most certainly illegal porn. Watched once and immediately deleted, whether that would have satisfied the police would have depended on how much they wanted to ‘get me’ I suppose.
This is really quite bizarre and is a good indication of how judges have lost their reasoning since the Covid nonsense.
I worked in the criminal justice and mental health systems for years, and I have seen prisoners or special hospital patients kept in custodial settings even when attempts have been made to free them on compassionate grounds (for example, late stage terminal cancer).
And as someone else posted, for whatever reason, the prisons have not been hit by Covid – just look at the “other” places of death in the Govt Covid death stats by location. So he is statistically probably less likely to be infected and then become ill with Covid in his prison cell.
I really hope the attorney general appeals against the leniency of this sentence.
PS if a lot of DM readers post about this it is quite likely to happen.
I don’t see why he’s any more likely to catch it inside compared to outside prison. Anyway he might have had it in the past 20-22 months in which most susceptible people have probably caught it. Couldn’t they do an antibody or T cell test?
My diagnosis is that this judge has been brainwashed by the propaganda since March 2020 and also believes that the disease is deadly. If 70% of us are susceptible to the mass hypnosis, maybe 70% of lawyers are similarly affected (if so, bad news for justice.)
At least three times Local Live Online (mirror group news) have posted alarmist articles announcing a sudden spike in cases/infections within a particular Council Ward.
In all three instances these turned out to be within the local Cat B prison which is in that Ward and were quickly contained.
Interesting point about the prisons, it should be a hot bed for covid, as even if jabbed it doesnt stop spreading etc. Prisoners, Prison staff, not a sound from any of them
Oh ffs. An 80 year old weak, sad bastard who “… had previously served seven years in prison over a conviction of rape.”
The judge put it in perspective :
” ‘This suggests a man living in an absolute fantasy world, thinking a 14-year-old girl would find you attractive.” … ie thought crime.
The Daily Fail is hardly the lodestar for the nation’s morality with it’s own-brand fear porn.
Get a life, Fail readers – it’s the woke Peeping Tom’s prurient Grauniad.
What the f. is this item doing here in the first place? Bait for outraged curtain-twitchers of Tunbridge Wells? Or is it just a slow news day?
P.S. Meanwhile, serious child abuse continues, courtesy Mr Toad and pals.
I believe it’s a failed half-assed attempt of the purported “free speech advocate” Toby to point out the grand hypocrisy of the Establishment.
However, by insinuating the old guy’s “free speech” should have been punished much more harshly and that the judge was not “strict enough” because of crazy COVID-19 policies, is pouring out the baby with the bathwater. This is also a very typical phenomenon for conservative media – they pretend to be defending your rights and getting outraged about censorship while secretly wishing to take away the rights of all the other “wrong people” (or even worse).
It’s also why the current system of propaganda is working so well. Nobody wants to associate with a group with history of own authoritarian thought which just happens to be nowadays fighting another, newly emerged fascist group. When it comes to morality and ethics, enemy-of-our-enemy is most definitely not our friend.
I don’t think it’s particularly about free speech – more about proportionality and thought crime.
It’s been really interesting to see a number here who have more similarity in temperament with the Covid despots than they would like to admit.
You deserve to be locked up with the old guy for that rant.
“This is also a very typical phenomenon for conservative media”
Oh really?
That’ll be why the BBC and the rest of the rabidly left wing media are silencing dissenting voices from objecting to lunatic climate change, and covid societal programming?
Go and watch this to help you understand how society has been programmed to conform to both the climate and the covid narrative. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj5bo_KFqgo
Our ‘lords and masters’ have been experimenting with this for decades. We either do something about it now or our ugly, fractured, argumentative, loving, funny, crazy humanity is lost until violence intervenes.
It’s a rare occasion, but I find myself in agreement with you.
The DM is the modern equivalent of the Roman coliseum, their readers’ bloodlust for government brutality has no limit some days.
It’s a funny old world where the masses salivate over keeping others in cages in the name of civilization.
As mentioned earlier, pedo sex crims are an obvious target for caging (also for forced vaccination/chemical castration) but who next? Non nonce inmates, ‘innocent’ remand prisoners for the safety of others, mental institution service recipients and others in the care of the all loving State?
‘Hardy pleaded guilty to attempting to engage in sexual communication with a child and attempting to meet a girl under 16 years old for grooming.’
So, if a convicted paedophile is considered more susceptible to the Covid-19 disease if they catch SARS-CoV-2 in prison, they can be spared just punishment because of this increased susceptibility, victim(s) be damned. Interesting. Morally and logically repugnant, but interesting.
Aside from the obvious moral and logical absursity of such an action, let’s roll with it. The unstated premise appears to be, If X is more susceptible to harm and potentially death if they are incarcerated, then X ought to be spared incarceration, since this threat outweighs X’s crimes.
Logical conclusions are important. One example:
P1 If child rapist X is more susceptible to harm and potentially death if incarcerated, then X ought to be spared proper punishment.
P2: X is more susceptible to harm and potentially death if incarcerated, since incarcerating X will put X in daily contact with numerous convicted criminals, the vast majority of whom will have/love children, be outraged, be more likely to know/find out about X’s crimes, and will want to severely punish X.
C: X ought to be spared just punishment.
We can multiply examples.
The premise is absurd. Regardless of the rights and wrongs of the case reported above, the fact that this kind of ‘argument’ is even considered ought to be of huge concern.
‘Daniel Gaskrell, mitigating, described Hardy, who originally pleaded not guilty but later changed his plea, as ‘a lonely old man who was seeking comfort of strangers, and has been in and out of marriages.’’
Bless. Then he should have gone to Wetherspoons. Plenty of munters there would be willing to give him ‘comfort’. But they’re probably too old for the nonce.
One hopes that his ‘let-off’ was contingent on his not repeating the offence?
From the Mail article linked above:
‘Judge Lawton said: ‘You are incredibly vulnerable to Covid and that draws me back from giving you a custodial sentence. If you further offend you will be going back to prison.’
‘Hardy, who appeared in court using two walking sticks, was sentenced to 18 months in prison, suspended for two years, along with 30 Rehabilitation Activity Requirement days.
‘He must sign the sex offender register for ten years and was given a ten-year Sexual Harm Prevention Order.’
That’ll stop him! And don’t you love the wording from Lawton:
‘If you further offend you will be going back to prison.’
Of course, if the nonce offends again and gets caught, he ‘will be going back to prison.’
I am guessing that Luke Perry replaces Michael Curzon as the “Daily Update” editor and MSM news aggregator.
Welcome aboard Luke.
on the subject of pedos…
https://gab.com/lxaphir/posts/107157247125718369
Top, Top, Top guy!!!
Could somebody just cut off the fuse on the time bomb?
So, it’s not just the Health Service that’s collapsed, the Criminal Justice Service has as well.
This UK is a joke, and I no longer recognise the country of my birth.
Two years waiting list yet to get through.
Some of those neglected won’t make it through to their eventual treatment, so that’ll telescope the waiting list somewhat.
Do you mean ‘contract’?
So you don’t have to go to prison anymore, if you’ve eaten a load of lard. Good to know.
One consolation: he’d probably be safer inside.
Hang the c*nt from a lamppost, along with our politicians.
Ugg, grunt, snarg, grubbabuggah, Maug wugg grugg abbagggahbaagh.
That would be a nice submission of forgiveness when you present your raped daughters victim statement in court.
Where is society since the death penalty was abolished? Any further forward?
Having spent a long lifetime believing that capital punishment was not the answer and legal gun ownership in the UK was foolish, I have recently done a full 180º pivot on both subjects.
Banning capital punishment and legal gun ownership has done the UK no good whatsoever.
I’m not surprised that you were once a ‘cop’. What an arsehole you are, and how typical of the scum who constitute ‘The Police’.
I am in favour of gun ownership, however, I am emphatically opposed to the re-introduction of capital punishment, principally because so many innocent men were murdered on the lies of filth like you.
So at 80, what’s left of his life, after a lifetime of offences, is considered worth more than the safety of young girls.
Judge Lawton should be removed from the bench.
He should spend his sentence next door to the judges family.
Unpleasant though this gentleman undoubtedly is, I am not comfortable about him being convicted after being set up by a group of vigilante agents provocateurs. Maybe they should be prosecuted for inciting an offence. Or even fraud! A rather nasty lot of people all round
The evidence these ‘agent provocateurs’ present will, I suspect, be better than the evidence of any police officers who have numerous cases to simultaneously investigate.
The police will forensically scrutinise the evidence, but that’s far quicker than starting from scratch themselves.
On what grounds would you have them prosecuted for inciting an offence? For posing as an underage girl? Would you accept an approach from an underage girl?
Like many other criminal offences, it’s the intent to do something that’s more important than the event itself. Did you intend to kill that pedestrian by driving over him, or was it that he stepped out in front of you and you couldn’t avoid him?
Did you intend to solicit an underage girl, or did one present herself to you and you could have turned her down?
It beggars belief the number of barrack room lawyers in the world, none of whom would countenance criticism of their profession, because people don’t understand the job they do.
Presumably the guy is jabbed.
In doing this, the judiciary seems to acknowledge that jabs don’t work.
Is there something we should be told?
That makes no sense. Our friend who works for the DWP was sent onto prisons to work. Nobody considered his risk, and yes, he got Covid while in there. Just like most cold viruses, he was fine.
That is just how they release offending criminals back into the world. As with covid restrictions absolutely nothing to do with our safety whatsoever.
This country is soft on paedos for a long time. Getting softer. Hasn’t some political groups sought to lower the age of consent.
Lignum devorans improbus compescit, non clementia.
So, it’s the judge’s opinion that he’s somehow likelier to get covid in prison?
Compassion for a danger to society yet nothing but victimisation for those who can see through the scamdemic.
Not defending this old man or the illogical decision about covid risks to him in prison, but do others think that these self-appointed paedophile hunters are really rather suspect themselves and seem to get their own sexual kicks from online entrapment and filming their citizen arrests?
Of course the pitchfork brigade think they are wonderful and doing the work that the Police, in their view, should be going unaided but I strongly suspect that the pedo-hunters would happily turn their attention to the ‘anti-vaxxers’ given half a chance and a veneer of public acceptance.
W**king over arrests? I’m an ex cop and whilst arresting some scrote was one of the most satisfying things any cop could ever do, it’s hardly sexual gratification material. A pint and a slap on the back from colleagues was about as far as it went, other than the sense of a job well done.
Are these paedophile hunters entrapping people? Have we had convictions or even charges of these people maliciously, or mistakenly targeting someone?
Do we have complaints from their targets that they were being touched up or flashed by these people, notably a young woman in this case?
I don’t like the idea of people doing police work, it can, but rarely does, degenerate into vigilantism however, I also believe it’s high time people took responsibility for their safety and the safety of their children, rather than bleating to the government and the police after the event.
To have a case considered by the police, these people must be squeaky clean and I suspect their evidence is often better than that of overworked cops with a caseload of numerous investigations.
Meanwhile, cops, rightly or wrongly, are being demonised across America and the UK for not doing their jobs, but when they arrest someone at a demonstration they are presented as tyrants. I won’t touch on Australia as it seems a hornets nest of alternative media, but they appear to be going too far, yet this is the response demanded by many where Extinction Rebellion and Insulate Britain is concerned.
I would ask people to make up their mind, but I have spent a long lifetime doing that, so perhaps it’s time for people to organise themselves and police their own communities, with the much lauded lone patrolman walking the streets in the dead of night come rain, snow or shine. I promise you, it’s a miserable experience.
Without knowing much about them, I cautiously applaud these paedo hunters for the time, money and dedication to do a job our police forces seem unable to accomplish often enough.
They are simply vigilantes looking for victims.
That is very much my thought as well. They seem to be social misfits who have hit upon the fact that they can play real life ‘dungeons and dragons’ with impunity to bully pathetic victims yet not face any consequences themselves and mostly be praised by other armchair vigilantes.