The decline in flu immunity during lockdowns has resulted in Brits complaining of suffering from ‘super colds’, with extra disruption to life likely to be caused by some health experts advising those with symptoms to isolate before ruling out Covid through testing. The Mirror has the story.
Social media is seeing users increasingly talking about having caught a “Super Cold” as Covid tests come back negative. …
[Professor Neil Mabbott says:] “As [lockdown] measures are eased and people start mixing more indoors and travelling on public transport we can expect to see a significant rise in colds and other respiratory diseases.”
Professor Alex Richter, of Birmingham University, said: “It is impossible to tell the difference between a cold and Covid clinically.
“They present so similarly that only PCR testing can differentiate between the two. Lateral flow testing can help with screening, but if someone has symptoms then they should go for a PCR swab test.”
“It is unlikely we are seeing the circulation of a ‘Super Cold’,” Professor Mabbott added.
“Rather our immune systems have had limited exposure to colds over the past 18 months, so our immunity to these diseases will have waned during this period and will be less effective against colds than would be expected normally.” …
Professor Alan McNally is Professor of Microbial Evolutionary Genomics at the University of Birmingham and was Infectious Disease lead at the Milton Keynes Lighthouse Lab.
He said: “If you have any symptoms of respiratory infection you should stay at home to prevent transmission and get a test done for Covid to rule in or out.
“Trying to self-diagnose is a sure-fire way to send Covid case rates soaring again.”
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press: The Telegraph has some advice for those suffering from the ‘super cold’.
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Well I’m hearing of so called Super Colds. So far only among the vaccinated. But … that can’t be investigated can it.
Why is it that people suffering from a heavy cold or flu IMMEDIATELY want to be ”tested”? Why not just go to bed and get over it (unless you become really ill).
Why play their game?
It’s probably all the muzzle wearers and/or the “vaccinated” with their screwed immune systems.
Professor McNally said “and get a test done for covid to rule in or out.” Why? What treatment would you be advised to have that would be any different from that for a bad cold?
Rhetorical why, maybe, but no doubt he hopes that they’ll jack up the statistics to support the scam.
Perhaps he’s got shares in the company.
i would like to ask prof richter how many common cold patients are on a ventilator normally..
and prof mabbott where he got his numbers of lower incidence of the common cold in the past 18 months.
both of them are talking absolute shite.
if richter cannot establish the difference between the common cold and covid19 he should retire.
the same goes for mabbott as he seems to have a problem interpreting numbers.
Nothing to do with antibody dependent enhancement then? The one thing many scientists warned us about after taking the vaxx? My two sisters, vaxxed, never locked down, have had the cold from hell not once but twice since receiving the vaxx. The only people we know in the past two months with Covid, all double vaxxed, all pretty unwell. Make sure and get that booster everyone. You can see how well they are working.
Prof Alan McNally ‘“If you have any symptoms of respiratory infection you should stay at home to prevent transmission and get a test done for Covid to rule in or out’
No such test exists, and in the words of General Melchett ‘you are a steaming pile of horse manure’
The obvious self contradictory expert. And if anyone follows his advice, the last place you want to be at is a ‘testcentre’ occupied by infected punters.
“Trying to self-diagnose is a sure-fire way to send Covid case rates soaring again.”
NO….
Constant false positive fake PCR “testing” is a sure-fire way to send Covid case rates soaring again.
A number of common colds are coronaviruses, around one in six in fact.
What are the chances that this particular mother of all colds is a coronavirus and what we are seeing here (in the vaccinated) is antibody dependent enhancement?
Now, that would be a smoking gun…
Only to find out that common colds are caused by other coronaviruses, that happen to produce cross immunity to covid19… And then, how regular or how severe are those colds, when comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated individuals. Do they take a side?
I saw a list of covid symptoms listed in the paper a few months back. One was runny nose.
The brainwashed will continue to get tested because they still believe there is some deadly pandemic virus going around. Those not will carry on with life as normal and will have stopped watching or reading any MSM. Its a much more fun and enjoyable life not worrying about being ill every day.
And what is the benefit of knowing whether it is or isn’t covid?
The only real benefit might be that, having recovered from it, one could argue that there is no need for any so-called ‘vaccine’, as you’ve done it all automatically. You never know, in some parts of the world there might even be a profitable market for blood donorship in circumstances like that!
That’s true. But it means having to involve some medic, taking up their time to diagnose and then sign you off when you’ve recovered. Jobs for the GP boys and girls, I suppose, and it’s easier than treating people who are really sick.
Professor Alex Richter, of Birmingham University, said: “It is impossible to tell the difference between a cold and Covid clinically.
Exactly! So it is like a cold/flu then….
Amazing the number of WhatsApp groups I am in where people are saying things along the lines of “Ah we have all been ill with a bad cold in my house, but thankfully its not COVID”, or “We’ll see you at the pub later on…we have been ill with a cold and still feeling rubbish but its not COVID so no need for us to isolate”….
Literally lost for words
It’s because they believe that if you get ‘covid’ then you will die.
My immune system is just fine.
Hasn’t been shot to pieces by monkey gunk.
Purely anecdotal but my wife now has her second really nasty cold since vaccination. She is usually pretty hardy when it comes to colds as she is a teacher.
She actually took today off, her first sick day in about ten years. She is absolutely wiped out.
I had a slightly blocked nose yesterday and now feel fine.
Something is definitely going on.
You can almost taste the desperation.
‘Social media is seeing users increasingly talking about having caught a “Super Cold”…’
Bollocks! Who goes around saying they are suffering with a ‘super cold’? Who does that?!
Bill: ‘Hello Ron, how are ya?’
Ron: ‘Not too bad, Bill, considering the super cold I had recently.’
Do me a favour!
By the way, Ron went on to tell Bill that the super cold knocked him for twelve!
Sounds a lot like ADE (antibody-dependent enhancement) read https://www.nature.com/articles/s41587-020-0577-1 This has been known about for years but was conveniently brushed under the carpet by big pharma, government, and media. Now the media is pushing the fake narrative of lockdown lack of immunity
Brits are suffering from super BS, that’s all.
I was just reflecting on a loosely related topic to do with infantilisation in society (related to Bill Gates as well).
How many intelligent people get totally pissed off with intrusive hand-holding of a ‘Does he take sugar?’ type when faced with Windows software?
No! I don’t want to throw money down the drain for more OneDrive space! And I never fucking asked for stuff to be transferred to it in the first place …. and I don’t want fucking ‘Easy Access’ folders clogging up my file application…. and … and …
I know I can get rid of it all (unlike the Covid scam) – but I shouldn’t have to bother – because none of this is actually good for my blood pressure and health in general!
Sounds familiar?
It does indeed sound familiar. Remember Mr Friendly Paperclip? He should do the coronavirus public information films.
“Hi It looks like you’re trying to live freely” “would you like a lockdown?”
It’s Gatesy.
I’m sure someone dev at M$ had just read about Sirius Cybernetics Virtual People Personalities and suggested “clippy” as a piss take…
Please select your current health status:
a) Sick
b) Poorly
c) Unwell
Yes. He was called Clippy!
Our society has become a joke.
Let’s start fretting over a cold. Or covid, which is so terrifying it is apparently indistinguishable from a cold.
Can someone please slap these hysterical people across the face and tell them to get a grip?
One second.
It is impossible to tell the difference between a cold and Covid clinically. They present so similarly that only PCR testing can differentiate between the two.
COVID-19 is the name of the disease caused by the virus SARS-COV-2. It is not the virus itself.
If the disease is now symptomatically identical to the disease caused by other coronaviruses, then why even refer to COVID-19 at all?
This is not an abstract or academic point. We commonly refer to “having a cold” when infected by pretty much anything that causes minor respiratory tract symptoms, whether that’s any of the common cold coronavirus, or a mild dose of any of the influenza viruses, and we don’t assume or get tested for the latter unless the symptoms worsen to the point where they cannot be a common cold.
But hanging a label on the cause doesn’t alter the seriousness of the disease one whit. You don’t suddenly become sicker when you find out that your mild “cold” is actually influenza.
And likewise for SARS-COV-2. So why this obsessive zealotry with diagnosing any possible symptom of SARS-COV-2 as being “COVID-19”?
I say zealotry after careful consideration. This feels a lot more like… Read more »
Well said sir.
The only possible reason for testing after symtoms develop would be if it had any effect on the treatment, but since the treatments are generally only for the symptoms and are not disease specific, then a diagnosis is pointless.
It is alleged that ivermectin is a profylactic for Covid. There is no reason that I can see that it would also not have the same effect on other respiratory diseases. I would have thought that may be worth investigating as it may hold the clue to minimising all respiratory illnesses. But of course that will enrich no-one important.
We’ve lost 50 years of benefit from research due to the ignorant behaviour and censorship. No matter many are coining it in, that’s all that matters.
Looks more like stock markets than religion. Years ago, they didn’t want to know, with no specific up market drugs to sell etc for ‘common colds’. A cynic might observe that we are looking at something like “short selling”, in the belief that ‘cases’ will ramp up and increase supplies etc.
I hope it is debt immunity.
Because Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) was predicted to rise between October 2021 and April 2022 due to the vaccine.
I’ve seen the videos online, I’ve seen the statistics and now I am seeing it appear in people around me. And the outlook is not good.
Yep. I’m watching this winter with interest. Fully expecting to be given my yellow star as an un-vaccinated, then shoved on a train to one of the new “Super-prisons”.
I feel vindicated, that I didn’t join in with the Super Nonsense
Same. Now we all just need to watch it unravel from behind the sofa. With popcorn 🍿
Can hardly wait… for “Covid The Movie” coming to a cinema near you soon. My popcorn is waiting.
A musical maybe?
Don’t worry I’m sure pharma will have a vaccine (that wanes after 3 months) that will take care of super colds, only £29.99 a shot.
Of course you’ll need four a year for your vaccine pass to remain valid.
“Professor Alex Richter, of Birmingham University, said: “It is impossible to tell the difference between a cold and Covid clinically.”
Tells us all that we need to know about the last 18 months worth of nonsense. Rebadged colds used to promulgate fear and drastic societal changes and the pre-destined saviour in the shape of coerced jabs.
Hmmm…. their definition of a Super Cold sounds like about 50% of the colds I’ve experienced over the years. Yeah, some colds are worse than others. The bad ones make for a miserable 4 or 5 days before they eventually clear.
The bad ones can last longer than 4-5 days.
Yep. I’ve had viruses last 4 weeks. On visiting doc after 2 weeks I am usually told; “go way, it’s a virus, if you haven’t improved after 4 weeks come back”.
We talk about colds but they are talking about a “SuperCold“. Until now I have never come across that as a clinical term, but you learn something new every day!
Apart from a short period last year in June I’ve been living and working normally and not wearing a mask. I can’t see why my immune system would be any weaker than normal.
After the first 3 weeks of first lockdown, at which point I started examining the data, I did my best to mix with anyone willing because it was clearly not very dangerous. I did try to shy away from elderly relatives but they insisted on ignoring it too on the basis they didn’t have much time left and didn’t want to spend it self-imprisoned. Their choice.
The ” Common Sense” trite answer of stay home to prevent spread, doesn’t make logical sense.
From the article, due to lockdown, reduced interaction, all of our immune systems are less efficient than would normally be the case.
Therefore to keep our immune systems in tip top condition the logical thing to do is to get exposure to every cold variant going, via people not staying at home.
Is there any other way to keep your immune system properly primed?
Hmm. Their explanation that ‘our immunity to normal colds has waned’ doesn’t sound particularly believable.
Most upper respiratory tract infections in those over 5 and under about 55 are dealt with by the innate immune system — this doesn’t have ‘memory’ and just responds to infections as they arise.
Have the vaccines resulted in a suppressed innate immune system? Either specifically for coronaviruses (all, not just covid) or infections in general?
You’d think it would be very important to find this out — that there should be investigations into the immune response of individuals to these non-covid infections. There should also be some comparative studies into infection rates of the vaccinated vs unvaccinated, along with disease severity in those two groups.
But the authorities won’t do this, because it appears to be very important to them to never look for anything that might suggest that the vaccines have led to problems.
“If you have any symptoms of respiratory infection you should stay at home to prevent transmission”
Well. f. me!
Translation : Do what you should always do if you have a respiratory infection – even a cold. Historically, too many people have struggled into work/close contact because they think its the brave thing to do. In fact – it’s the stupid thing to do.
It won’t stop spread, but it will mitigate it sensibly, and should have been the basic advice last year, coupled with sensible socializing behaviour for the asmptomatic.
AS it is, we probably have ludicrously weakened general immunity, which is likely to lead to more severe symptoms.
I don’t think it’s brave, I’d love time off for a cold but my employer has a punitive warning system that discourages this. My partner would also love the time off but no one picks up his workload when he’s off and it makes work too stressful to return to. Not to mention all the poor people who don’t get paid and have no safety net. Culture has to change. Stuff all the restrictions.
That’s true. Historically (i.e. before I retired) it was like that in my trade. In fact, in my early years I probably caught (and transmitted) quite a few ‘common colds’ at work for that reason, given the nature of the buildings I worked in.
I was always That Guy in the office who asked people to follow our actual corporate policy and kindly sod off, or be told to sod off, when they came in coughing and sneezing and dripping while claiming, “Oh, I’m probably not contagious”.
I was the guy who wouldn’t touch common surfaces because I know fine well that most humans are filthy monkeys who never really wash after wiping.
Then, it was pooh-poohed (aptly enough). What a fuss to make, everybody comes in when they’re sick, it’s not a big deal, it’ll toughen you up.
Now, I’m the one laughing off the consequences of a 0.3% (with-not-from, at most, and falling) mortality disease, while those who never used to believe in no-see-ums have become the most fervent Branch Covidians, wearing muzzles at their desks even when not required.
All performance, of course: I still don’t touch the bathroom door handle.
I don’t have a particular point to make here, other than that most people are, and will remain, skip licking sheep.
I agree about sensible behaviour if you’re symptomatic – or know that someone is. But contagion from surfaces is probably not a major issue (it certainly isn’t re. SARS), and you need a certain degree of infection to keep your general immune system going.
Man-flu would be much more appropriately termed boss-flu, as that’s the only guy who gets to take off for it. :->