Decline in Flu Immunity Due to Clampdown on Socialising Has Led to ‘Worst Colds Ever’

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Some Brits say they are suffering from their “worst cold ever” as scientists warn that the decline in flu immunity during continued lockdowns could lead to a difficult winter. The Independent has the story.

For Rebecca London, 24, from Bournemouth, a usual cold would mean “a runny nose, sneezing, a bit of a sore throat and feeling a bit rundown”.

“Nothing like this,” she told the BBC, saying she could barely sleep during her illness, which numerous lateral flow tests confirmed was not Covid.

Others have spoken of being “floored” by their colds, some of which lasted for more than a month.

Dr. Philippa Kaye, a GP in London, told the broadcaster: “We’ve actually been seeing a rise in the number of coughs and colds and viral infections.

“We are mixing in a way that we haven’t been mixing over the past 18 months.

“During those first lockdowns, we saw numbers of other [non-Covid] infections fall. We think that that was primarily due to the restrictions on meeting up.”

In more positive news, the World Health Organisation’s latest influenza update suggested that global cases were “at lower levels” than predicted for this time of year, despite fears of mass outbreaks.

However, with winter approaching, the situation could get worse, as Professor Anthony Harnden, the Deputy Chair of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, has warned. He said that low flu immunity “could be potentially a bigger problem this winter than Covid”.

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Lowe
Lowe
5 years ago

If I caught something as described, whether “a runny nose, sneezing, a bit of a sore throat and feeling a bit rundown” or only able to “barely sleep”, I would never dream of doing a lateral flow test to check if it were Covid, never mind doing “numerous lateral flow tests”. “Oooo that’s negative. Let’s try this one. That’s negative too. Try again.. Negative. And again.. Negative…Best of five…. negative…” Maybe she’s an Independent reader? Are they all like that?

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
5 years ago

Let me tell you my true story.

Truth be told, 35/40 years ago, I was so mentally destroyed from my last marriage breakdown, the second and last one, that I wanted to commit suicide and as it turns out, I am a jumper from the top of high buildings and on the run in to jumping off and killing myself, just before I launched myself into eternity, I had an out of body experience – for want of a better explanation, a cone of light and silence descended over me and a voice came into my head and said “there is nothing wrong with you physically, this is all financial” and I stopped, turned around and walked away and that is the only reason I am still here today.

15 years ago, roughly, I went with the female friend who I was caring for (part time paid carer), to a convention about fortune telling and other “weird” things that women generally believe in and while I was there we saw a guy doing Aura photos and both my friend and I, had ours done.

Now, everyone has a motivation to their own cause, but I have never explained mine, so… Read more »

TheBigman
TheBigman
5 years ago

Surprise surprise. If you over sanatise and space out for extended periods this was always going to happen. I fact we should worry more about the viruses that will start evading the antibac gels etc. Viruses become less deadly the more they circulate. If we back off more they have to work harder they will only get stronger. Simple.

Hester
Hester
5 years ago

The article doe not say whether these people have been double injected. The injection (2 scientists are being nominated for Nobel prozes) have had their immune system compromised in order to allow the “vaccine” to bypass the immune system. Is it not worth investigation in order to ascertain whether the immune system has been compromised, which will make the vaccinated more susceptible to colds etc which the unvaxxed would fight off, but the immuno compromised will have greater suffering.

godders
godders
5 years ago

A bonus not to be sneezed at. . . a bad cold will help boost your immune sytem against the Kung Flu and other corona viruses.

Noumenon
Noumenon
5 years ago

Why do modern people never stop moaning? It’s just a cold ffs.

J4mes
J4mes
5 years ago

Anyone else notice how BBC’s style of writing has changed over the last couple years, with them trying to be really trendy and cool? It’s like they try to create a ‘drop the mic’ effect with their articles.

Don’t quite know how to describe it, but it really does my tits in.

brachiopod
brachiopod
5 years ago

How effective is !vermect!n +zinc +… against influenza? Anyone know of any research?

brachiopod
brachiopod
5 years ago
Reply to  brachiopod

Because the US Military don’t thing that flu jabs are any use since when stopping flu infections – which they do badly – they open you up to any other pathogen floating around.

amanuensis
amanuensis
5 years ago

The problem we’re having with ‘worst cold ever’ is nothing to do with lockdowns and everything to do with suppression of the innate immune system by the vaccines.

It is exactly the same mechanism behind the increase in cases of shingles recently.

crisisgarden
crisisgarden
5 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

Well I’m uninjected and have had the worst cold ever ™️, so I don’t quite fit into this narrative!

vlysander
vlysander
5 years ago

Bullshit

mishmash
mishmash
5 years ago

Shut up and get on with it you whining bastards.

crisisgarden
crisisgarden
5 years ago

Well, right on cue, I’m in day two of The Worst Cold Ever ™️. As in bedridden and unable to work, which has never happened with any previous cold. Been wondering whether it’s flu. And I can’t work out as a sceptic whether to buy into the idea that this is an effect of lockdown and ’immunity debt’ – in my case it doesn’t quite fit as I pretty much ignored the restrictions anyway. I do know I’ve had 18 months of believing I’m witnessing the birth of totalitarianism, and that can’t be good for anyone’s health!

Mark
Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

The nightmare scenario for any sceptic is to kick the bucket and get tested “positive” for covid, and then have some ungrateful traitorous relative get paid to tell the media that you “regretted it all at the end” and “begged your family to get vaccinated”.

I had what was the worst flu I can remember a couple of weeks ago (at peak, two nights of chest pains and real difficulty breathing, with loss of taste and smell). Some relatives who also came down tested positive for the little C (I’ve had the big C as well), but I maintained my record of never have worn a mask and never having tested, so don’t have a test result to point to.

Anyway, I won’t deny that the stubborn refusal to even consider giving the people I’ve argued with the satisfaction of having me die “of covid” certainly helped keep my motivation up….

crisisgarden
crisisgarden
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Totally with you.. I got ‘it’ in July and am confident in my natural immunity now and confident enough to tell others including employer that there is absolutely no sense in being jabbed for something I’ve already had. I feel very sorry for the poor buggers whose family sells them out to the media. I’ve also stuck to my guns on never having been PCR’d so can’t prove it (nor should I have to) but if push comes to shove I can get an antibody test I suppose to prove I’ve had it. Very reluctant to engage with any aspect of this nonsense!

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Sounds like Covid to me. Well done.

bennyboy
bennyboy
5 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Chin up, its not like you’ve been told you have cancer, is it?

crisisgarden
crisisgarden
5 years ago
Reply to  bennyboy

I’m not feeling sorry for myself! I work in a school so it’s quite normal to be hit with such things at this time of year. But this one has been unusually severe!

bennyboy
bennyboy
5 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Bless you and good wishes.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
5 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

They don’t test for flu … great commercial possibilities to come soon.

sjonesy1999
sjonesy1999
5 years ago

ADE. The common cold will be the death of the injected.

rockoman
rockoman
5 years ago
Reply to  sjonesy1999

A pandemic of the uninformed.

Annie
Annie
5 years ago

Tell me, he that knows: who is the phantom downvoter who downvotes everything?

Teddy Edward
Teddy Edward
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Probably Toby Young.

JASA
JASA
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Yes, I’ve been wondering that too.

Ross Hendry
Ross Hendry
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Little Willy Gates.

Dodderydude
Dodderydude
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Probably the same ‘person’/bot who downvotes everything on OffGuardian as well!

Annie
Annie
5 years ago

I’ve been out, I’ve been in, I’ve been a out, I’ve kept my face, I’ve mixed with hundreds of people, I’m as right as a trivet.
Serves the Zombies right if they snivel.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
5 years ago

Donated blood yesterday and despite numerous texts telling me that unless I had a medical exemption that I must wear a mask, I went in maskless, the only one in the venue, (donors and staff.) Just 1 out of the 6 people who were involved in my donation made any comment.
DON’T LET THE BASTARDS GRIND YOU DOWN!!!

AN other lockdown sceptic
AN other lockdown sceptic
5 years ago

Nice work FP. Love it. 🙂

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
5 years ago

Many thanks, AN.
Truly appreciated.

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago

Yes, very good going. I’ve managed a trip to the GP’s blood nurse and to the dentist both maskless, no one bothered me. The masked up blood nurse was very chatty and I doubt that she sees many bare faces these days.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
5 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Glad to hear.

crisisgarden
crisisgarden
5 years ago

Took my youngest to A&E with a sprained wrist. Categorically refused to put one on and they then tried to offer a visor which was also given short shrift. Then, almost in retaliation, they attempted to put one on my daughter (8). Denied. Eventually they gave up and let us through! So yes, I’m with you.

Judy Watson
Judy Watson
5 years ago

Quick question – is true that only the un-jabbed can donate blood?

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
5 years ago
Reply to  Judy Watson

No.

alw
alw
5 years ago

We have just had colds courtesy of the grandchildren. Lasted five days. Very mild.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
5 years ago
Reply to  alw

Yeah, lots of colds reappearing in London … children probably passing around as you say. Full on colds. Not alien colds though. Inde short of a story.

rockoman
rockoman
5 years ago

It is interesting that in 2020 the flu also disappeared in Sweden and Belarus where lockdowns, masks, distancing were not implemented and measures were minimal.

Cambodia, on the other hand, recorded only a few hundred covid cases in 2020, but irritatingly continued to report lots of flu.

Ross Hendry
Ross Hendry
5 years ago

I haven’t had a cold or flu for 20 years – since I started taking 5,000 i.u. of Vitamin D3 every day. All this without the farcical lockup lockdown.

The immune system needs contact with others and plenty of sunshine, not readily available at our latitude. Thus the D3.

JASA
JASA
5 years ago
Reply to  Ross Hendry

Indeed. Apparently Dr Fauci takes high dose D3 everyday too, yet doesn’t seem to recommend this to others. Hmmm.

Ross Hendry
Ross Hendry
5 years ago
Reply to  JASA

Clearly pure forgetfulness on his part 🙂

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  JASA

He would prefer you to get the Moderna vaccine in which his outfit the NIAID owns a share of the patent.

186NO
186NO
5 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Is this the one that predates the “discovery” announcement of SARS COV2 by many months, being a component of the subsequent and uniquely, as far as Moderna is concerned, successful development of a mRNA “vaccine”?

caipirinha17
caipirinha17
5 years ago

I’ve just had an email from the Royal Institution. This year’s Xmas lectures are being delivered by… Penfold himself, aka Jonathan Van Tam. Think I’ll give that a miss.

RickH
RickH
5 years ago
Reply to  caipirinha17

What’s his subject? ‘Pharmaceuticals as Investment through the Ages’?

crisisgarden
crisisgarden
5 years ago
Reply to  caipirinha17

Or show up and egg him?

Fiona Walker
Fiona Walker
5 years ago

Reasonably foreseeable… immune systems are like sheep dogs, they need to work! Or muscles, use it or lose it.

TreeHugger
TreeHugger
5 years ago

I only very briefly wore a mask, have been in busy pubs frequently whenever they’ve been open. Shopped in person throughout, maskless, didn’t avoid contact with family or friends and have had not as much as a sniffle in 2 years (hayfever aside).
It’s no surprise that lack of contact reduces the immune system.

Manjushri
Manjushri
5 years ago

I guess that any sniffle, cough, headache or sneeze will be declared a Covid19 varient.

rayc
rayc
5 years ago

Y’all are overthinking this, this bs is just meant to convince you to run and get a flu vaccine. The industry’s hope is to train people to get vaccines every year (at least), just like many already have been brainwashed to do in the US.

Mark
Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  rayc

We have the Dr Jekyll rayc today, it appears.

crisisgarden
crisisgarden
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

It’s most odd isn’t it!

Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
5 years ago

Not worth reading in full more bollox plus we all know there’s no flu now just covi

Bobby Lobster
Bobby Lobster
5 years ago

… and also, if they will not wear an EU beret 🙂

Matt Mounsey
Matt Mounsey
5 years ago

Is it the lack of contact, or is it that the vaccines have switched off the innate immune systems of their recipients so they can deliver their genetic payloads? Because that would certainly cause people to have worse colds:

https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/stabilising-the-code

Massive uptick in cancers and latent viruses like shingles are everywhere. It’s the equivalent of giving everybody AIDS.

Roll up your sleeves for the booster or you won’t be able to go to work, school or the supermarket!

GlassHalfFull
GlassHalfFull
5 years ago

Lockdowns and masks have little effect on the spread of a virus and cause more harm than good.
An experimental jab disrupting the immune system is likely to also have adverse effects.
Viruses interact with each other and one can dominate another and that is why flu disappeared and had nothing to do with lockdowns, masks or washing hands.
This scientific paper titled “Virus–virus interactions impact the population dynamics of influenza and the common cold” explains all.
https://www.pnas.org/content/116/52/27142

rockoman
rockoman
5 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

The flu continued in Cambodia in 2020, wheras there were only a few hundred covid cases.

I’m guessing that it was those minefields along the border, which were placed by the Khmer Rouge,

GlassHalfFull
GlassHalfFull
5 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

Many people in the Far East still have immunity from SARS and that is why there were fewer cases of Covid.

rockoman
rockoman
5 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

So, why have ‘cases’ exlploded in 2021?

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

Good question.

Judy Watson
Judy Watson
5 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

Here in thailand the death rate from the rona was in double figures for all of 2020. At the start of 2021 – sorry cannot remember the date the figures suddenly shot up and continue to rise. strange that was about the time the ‘jabs’ programme started innit?

iane
iane
5 years ago

Funny how they are calling flu a cold! If anyone dared term covid a cold or flu they were instantly sent to the naughty corner.

bennyboy
bennyboy
5 years ago
Reply to  iane

If you have flu, you are so unwell you cant tell anyone you have flu

maggie may
maggie may
5 years ago
Reply to  bennyboy

For years people have been saying ‘I’ve got a touch of flu’ when they’ve actually got a bad cold. If you’ve never had flu, you don’t know what it’s really like – as you say, if you really have it, you’re in your bed and can’t tell everyone you meet you’re got it!

chris c
chris c
5 years ago
Reply to  maggie may

A sensible doctor (there are a few) once told me when a lot of people claim to have “flu” they actually have “rhinitis with pyrexia” ie. a cold with a temperature. This could be from any number of viruses.

milesahead
milesahead
5 years ago
Reply to  chris c

The old adage – if you’ve got a bad cold, you can get out of bed to pick a ten pound note off the carpet, but you can’t if you have flu.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
5 years ago
Reply to  bennyboy

Not necessarily. Age and fitness are likely to come into flu too.

186NO
186NO
5 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

SB, disagree; in the last 50 + years as an adult (OK, my nomenclature I know) I have had 3 episodes of “flu” – one was probably, in hindsight, a bad cold; one was Bronchitis type and one WAS the flu (winter time) ; bed ridden for more than a fortnight, delirious at times with high temperature, bad nightmares, the whole nine yards. Age and fitness might help you recover, but I do not think it will prevent infection; not a doctor so might be dead wrong.

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