Amid reports of a shaky start to the roll-out of vaccines for healthy teenagers – which could now last well into the Christmas period – councils and local health officials have started giving “vaccination webinars” which are intended to persuade parents to give their consent for the ‘jabbing’ of their children. The Guardian has the story.
Headteachers have called for more resources to speed up the scheme as it becomes clear that the Government’s target for the programme to be completed by half-term will be missed.
Public health teams in Stockport and Oldham have advised schools that Covid vaccinations sessions will run until mid-to-late November. Schools elsewhere, including in north London, Watford and Staffordshire, have been told that they will not be visited by vaccination teams until next month. Other headteachers are still waiting to be given a date. …
Geoff Baron, General Secretary of the Association of School and College Leaders, said: “There is increasing frustration among school leaders about delays to the rollout of Covid vaccinations for 12-15 year-olds. We are at a loss to understand why the Government has not placed more focus on ensuring this happens as quickly as possible.
“The main issues appear to be where healthcare teams don’t have enough staff on hand to vaccinate so many students at once, and where demand for the vaccine has outstripped supply.”
Councils and local health officials are meanwhile running “vaccination webinars” to persuade reluctant parents to give consent for their children to be jabbed in school. Official take-up rates have yet to be released, but health officials have expressed concern that if they follow the pattern of adults, children in disadvantaged areas will be less likely to be immunised and therefore more likely to have their schooling disrupted.
Parents across the country, including the London boroughs of Tower Hamlets, Haringey, Greenwich and Merton, and in Leicestershire, are being invited to webinars to put concerns to clinicians and vaccine professionals. At a session last week by Barnet council attended by about 100 parents, health officials were quizzed about whether children who have already had Covid and have natural immunity should still be jabbed and why the U.K. has embarked on vaccinations for children when other countries have not. Myocarditis, inflammation of the heart muscle, and possible changes to girls’ menstruation cycles were also discussed. Some families raised fears that their refusal to give consent would not be respected.
Health officials reassured families that only pupils with “explicit parental consent” would receive the jab on school vaccination days. They said “processes” were currently being devised for administering the jab to children who want it but do not have parental consent and are assessed as capable of understanding the decision-making process and health implications – known as the “Gillick competence”.
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How much are the far left teaching unions making from their driving of the kids to have un- needed medical experimentstion which may have unknown harm on them even though they dont need it. The pharma industry are so corrupt!
you’ve really bought the whole 9 yards of the vaccine misinformation campaign, eh?
Better than being easily taken in by the government propaganda teams. I remember being told by the government that the vaccine would free us all – now that really was misinformation.
right, so every government in the world is running covid19 propaganda teams?
Not every government but the MSM won’t tell you about them.
The Swedish government seems not to have fallen for it, but of course you are entitled to your own version of reality.
Yep.
Well, ours is. So is France, Germany, Italy, USA, Canada, NZ, Australia… Isn’t that enough?
I don’t think you can argue with a closed mind.
Still waiting for a reply from you, ‘ewloe’, to my question of a few days ago. You tried to disparage what Noah Carl wrote by ‘educating’ him on what the denominator of a fraction is. You wrote ‘for the education of Noah’. I asked you (politely) to explain your comment, as I (and others it seemed) couldn’t see anything wrong with what Noah had written. I’m only a GCSE Maths tutor, but still waiting for your explanation.
Deborah, don’t waste your time with narcissistic troublemakers
Yes, they certainly are.
International Groupthink
Yes they are
Oh ewloe, make sure you have all the boosters, you know it makes sense.
I suggest you read this and then consider the possibility that the answer to your question is “Yes” even if said Governments realise they are party to of one of the greatest crimes against humanity or not.
https://swprs.org/the-wef-and-the-pandemic/?fbclid=IwAR1V3UiginerRTHIb4mlCYvXMF_GMBSB2e9tMc6BTA31KOyIUMAhQICnWtY
Are you saying that it isn’t just for three weeks to “squash the sombrero”?
How much is the government paying you to push their evil message?
You’re gorgeous, you are!
Twat
The pharma industry are corrupt. There have been many stories about it in the papers over the years. And I know from my own experience. The EU banned my favourite food (apricot kernels) from being sold as a food on safety grounds, and never mind that I have been having them for years and taken no obvious harm. And this ban was years after I read about the smear campaign by pharmaceutical companies against them. Coincidence? Well you’re entitled to your opinion, I suppose, just don’t say I don’t have my reasons.
By definition, vaccination provides lmmunity – think polio and MMR as just two examples. Therefore, by the Government’s own admission the current Covid 19 “vaccines” are nothing of the sort as they do not prevent infection or onward transmission.
It would be more accurate to describe the current jabs as inoculations which are acting as prophylaxis against Covid 19, in that they reduce the severity of future infections and also the chances of hospitalisation.
I feel sorry for you ewloe. I fear it is you who has “bought the whole 9 yards“. Your response implies that you have been utterly bamboozled by the propaganda and a perfect example of new normal. You may never recall the difference between BC and AC so will be unaware what has been taken away from you. That alone is a crime. You will of course never know the difference so it won’t matter. We however DO recall what life was like ‘back in the day’ and would dearly love our kids and grandchildren to enjoy it as we did.
Of course you could be just another Troll.
I mentioned an article about the vicious reactions to this development here:
https://dailysceptic.org/forums/general-discussion/there-seems-to-be-no-limit-to-covid-denial-stupidity/#post-41825
It seems some that trashy low lifes are getting in on the act by tormenting vaccine recipients or trying to shame them, or even burying razor blades in posters, in the hope that those who take them down will lacerate themselves.
What has become of the British People? When did they become animals?
Quite possibly due to people like you, who post trashy, low life comments such as…
“you’ve really bought the whole 9 yards of the vaccine misinformation campaign, eh?”
Thanks for repeating my message almost in full so twice as many see it. So it’s OK to torment 15 year old long covid victims is it? No comment on that, eh?
So, just working this out: you’re a lockdown sceptic but a vaccine fundamentalist? Would you be willing to try to understand why so many here are deeply concerned about these new jabs? You don’t have to agree with them, but it might help you feel happier here. How about it?
Who wants the creature to feel happy here?
Gollum!
‘long covid’
ewloe please hurry and get your boosters.
“long covid victims” You’re assuming “Covid” exists.
The “razor blades in stickers” story was exposed as a tacky fraud, which the media were of course happy to repeat. https://www.twitter.com/i/status/1436001194627960835
And the 15 year old long covid victim? It’s OK to torment her then, is that right?
It’s certainly not OK for the BBC (or you!) to incite hatred against anti-maskers by promoting a fraudulent story about razor blades in stickers
you might be right there. But it’s also not OK for dense covid-deniers to intimidate Grace Baker-earle.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-58856068
Yep as debunked by UK Column
It’s not OK to torment anyone. Now what?
What long Covid victim are you talking about? Your link doesn’t tell me anything.
Grace baker-earle.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-58856068
If she has had a SARS-CoV-2 infection then please explain why she needs a vaccination, as she has immunity. Also long Covid is no different to any other post viral syndrome.
“long Covid is no different to any other post viral syndrome”
Correct, the last cold I had went on for months just couldn’t shake the bugger off.
Not a Covid victim, but certainly a vaccine victim.
Oh, she was a long “Covid” victim? How remiss of the BBC not to mention it. Though the only quote in their piece is directed at her mother, rather than the girl.Some people are understandably concerned that children may be being coerced into taking this medication by parents (among others), and not least in light of what the JCVI has recommended.
And tormenting all those families where their loved one couldn’t get a diagnosis and died because we’re all panicking unnecessarily about rebranded flu?
77th.
Well it did seem a bit extreme, so it’s reassuring if it was fake, since I still have some regard for british decency, we should do what we can to preserve it.
Goodness, do they ever bother to properly investigate stories that go along with their narrative?
“What has become of the British People?” Exactly what the policies intended to create.
No comment on the 15 year old long covid victim eh? No, you were too busy on the keyboard to notice that. I thought so….
Grace baker-earle.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-58856068
I did comment above, but if you wish to make a clown of yourself, you don’t have to read.
Did you make that up all by yourself? The link returns error 404 – the content doesn’t exist.
No, it’s from the bbc in Wales. check the link.
The bbc
When I click the link I get Error 404, do you not understand, but given that the BBC is a major purveyor of misinformation I am inclined not to believe it anyway.
Try Ceefax”. What it actually says is “uses a wheelchair after contracting ‘Covid’ “. Whether that means long “Covid”, I don’t know. Still, a classic hard case. It is reasonable to assume that the vast majority of 15 year olds persuaded to have this “vaccine” are perfectly healthy. It also remains true, so far as I know, that no healthy 15 year old has died of “Covid”.
Oh well if it’s from the BBC that’s all right then.
Best T shirt I saw last week – “Is that true or did you hear it from the BBC?”
Don’t bite: it’s 77th Brigade stuff.
I don’t believe you – evidence please not assertion.
Idiot.
These crazy people seem all not to understand the concept of trust. Trust is lost very quickly and can be recovered only over very long time spans – of honorable, trustworthy conduct – if at all. Trust cannot be bought or coerced into. The harder you try to “convince” an untrusting individual to trust you, the less credible you become and the less trust you will get in return.
This sums up the entirety of public health policies during this pandemic. I think it began with the original sin of deciding to lie to the public and exaggerate risks rather than declare one’s own ignorance, as a sort of Pascal’s wager. From there it’s just been winding up and getting matters worse with every new “life-saving intervention”.
Which crazy people ? those who suck up the vaccine misinformation? They are cretins who do not want trust.
Ah yes, I forgot, when you run out of arguments (which seems to happen pretty quickly in your case), there is always the good old ad hominem.
I am 65, have an autoimmune disease and other comorbidities. Therefore I have had two doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine, with no severe side effects besides myalgia, although I am convinced I actually had a SARS-CoV-2 infection in October/November 2019. I will not be having the Pfizer booster. My son and daughter-in-law both had two doses of vaccine, my DiL has an autoimmune disease and her treatment causes immunosuppression. Two weeks ago they both developed COVID-19 despite the vaccinations. The vaccines should only be offered to 65+ and other vulnerable people, as per the Great Barrington Declaration.
Just one point : those of us 65+ haven’t had a lobotomy, either.
I don’t understand why you’re taking umbrage, after all I did say offered not mandated.
The flu vaccine is offered to 50+ and children.
The flu vaccine for 65+ is different to that offered to younger people.
The shingles vaccination is offered to 75+.
Just out of interest, what happened the last time there was mass vaccination of healthy people during an epidemic?
Polio 1950’s probably
Smallpox vaccination was mandated for babies in the 1800’s 1875 I think.
Perhaps you could take a moment from insulting people to examine some actual data?
https://openvaers.com/covid-data
The figures from the UK and EU adverse event reports databases are just as alarming. All three are likely underreported.
Given that you have repeated that fabricated story about razor blades in posters, might the purveyor of misinformation be the person you see in the mirror?
Please define misinformation. I am struggling to understand what it is.
It’s whatever he or she disagrees with.
Which (coincidentally, I’m sure…) also seems to be what the official narrative disagrees with!
What, even though The Guardian was telling us yesterday about “vaccination teams overwhelmed by demand“?
A bit of good news, at last. There is still hope.
No, it is the Guardian.
LOL!
Spot the bullshit!
1) They are not ‘imminused’ by being spiked. This terminology implies that they become ‘immune’, i.e. can’t catch it, which is not the case. Even proponents of spiking only claim that it can reduce severity of symptoms (which is a questionable claim, and kids mostly don’t get symptoms anyway).
2) Schooling is disrupted by illogical government policy – it is not something which naturally follows from refusing to get spiked.
It’s right , ignorant, poor people are much more likely to believe the vaccine misinformation. And hence children in disadvantaged areas are less likely to get vaccine.It behoves us who are educated to dismiss the vaccine misinformation, as you should.Scepticism without measure is madness.
Would you like to explain why ignorant, poor people are much more likely to believe misinformation and why you make such patronising assertions.
Story I heard was that the least educated are less likely to take it because they are more cynical about what governments tell them (and maybe because they live in the real world); and the most educated are also less likely to take them because they actually get critical thinking.
Well done for completely missing the point!
I don’t dispute that kids in poor areas are less likely to be spiked (people in such areas seem to be showing a far more healthy sceopticism than those in wealthier areas), My point was that being spiked does not make kids (or anyone) ‘immune’ from catching (or spreading) this virus.
Even if the vaccine reduces symptoms in adults (debatable), kids don’t get symptoms anyway so there is literally no benefit to giving them this experimental treament with unknown long-term effects (and well-documented short-term risks). The fact that even Whitty resorted to ridiculous claims about it benefitting their ‘mental health’ very much demonstrates this.
p.s. ‘poor’ does not equal ‘ignorant’…
Maybe go preach about that “vaccine misinformation” to JCVI, which did NOT recommend the administration of vaccines to children… hours later this lack of recommendation was overridden by politics who told schools to go ahead.
It is fairly clear today that children don’t need vaccines based on all the available data concerning infection and hospitalization rates, and the risk of adverse reactions…
Unless of course you want to claim that all children suddenly also must have the flu vaccines as well – given that the risk from COVID-19 in children is even LOWER than from flu. Again, that’s according to the most official statistics.
So perhaps do kindly enlighten us and explain where this sudden change in mind about health policy originates, if it’s not based on risk considerations of the (healthy) “patients”?
…or consider the WHO, whose advice is still just “Children aged between 12 and 15 who are at high risk may be offered [the Pfizer] vaccine alongside other priority groups for vaccination.”
or even the UK government, which repeatedly stated last year that children did not need to be vaccinated.
Ah yes, Pfizer, who were caught being less than transparent about how their “vaccine” was made because they didn’t want Christians (among others) to be put off. Corrupt? We don’t know the half of it.
Interestingly a survey in the US showed that the most vaccine “hesitant” (really, “refusing”) group, bu educational level, was people with PhD level qualifications.
Indeed: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.20.21255821v2.full-text
It strikes me that you’re probably in the wrong place – nearly every comment you are likely to encounter here is going to make you very cross. You should try the BBC website, where you’ll find nothing but kindred spirits, and as a bonus, you’ll be making some of the most erudite comments to be found there.
In BBC land, putting a single coherent bleat together counts as erudite.
They even censor some of the people who might upset you!
‘Scepticism without measure is madness’.
Awesome. I want a T-shirt of that.
Having read your commentary in a little more detail I have come to the conclusion that you are in fact as intimated at the end of my previous reply to you, a TROLL!
You show all the requisit personality traits…
The three main personality traits in trolls are: narcissism, psychopathy, and sadism. In particular, sadism–deriving pleasure from inflicting pain on others–is a strong characteristic of trolls.
While trolls—to use a dehumanizing term—may be more likely to be manipulative, sadistic, and psychopathic, they may also be suffering, feeling lonely and isolated with no clear socially acceptable outlets. — Deriving pleasure from inflicting pain on others — is a strong characteristic of trolls.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/experimentations/201908/what-makes-internet-trolls-tick
Re 2: This probably the biggest lie utilized from day one of the pandemic. Misleading people that anything bad which happens is “because of the pandemic” rather than “because of our imbecile, flawed policies”. Apparently, it is still being repeated ad nauseam and the majority is buying into it for strange reasons (although the behavioral psychologists who invented it are probably able to explain why it’s so
effective).
We should all diligently collect the names and positions of anyone involved in this disgusting programme. Geoff Baron has placed himself on this list. They are guilty of war crimes, and I am absolutely certain they will one day face justice.
Apart from the innocent children forced by their deluded parents, anyone willingly taking their KoolAid by way of these killer vaccines, is just another Branch Covidian and they deserve all that’s coming to them.
I am kinda sad I haven’t been invited to one of these webinars. I have lots of questions to ask.
So many questions. I’d love for someone to answer them. Publicly. With sourced data.
Excellent!
First rate Qs!
I suspect they don’t take any questions in the webinars, just read from their carefully prepared powerpoint slides in presence of an officially appointed supervisor/censor. Any other approach would turn out as a double-edged sword for their campaign.
Excellent post, put in a nurshell, thank you. I may use this list of questions myself (and more) at some point if you don’t mind?
Woah….check this one out:
https://www.rintrah.nl/too-many-people-are-dying-and-its-starting-to-worry-the-demographers/
They make the point that boys in the UK (where we have detailed death data) are up 63% vs girls up 16%….pretty fucking obvious what’s going on here. Causes of excess mortality are KNOWN. Ischaemic heart disease, strokes, heart failure. What on earth could be causing that I wonder?!
Hmmm… Is it long covid?
Ewloe is clearly looking for attention. I would be inclined to not respond or engage in anyway. It will just feed his/her infantilism.
How on earth they can run webinars when it seems that the DHSC have done no research (see FOI request below) into whether 12-15 year olds can understand the risk/benefit ratio is simply beyond me. This beggars belief, but then again why am I not surprised? Irrespictive of risks that may be involved, this Government will stop at nothing to generate an income stream for Big Pharma now and in the future throuigh its fixation on ‘Jabs’ for everyone and the intoduction (bound to come) of ‘vacccine passports. But thats the warm-up act, next will be social credit apps as per China. Anyone who fails to see this need to wake up quickly. This is the end game, pure and simple.
Research into the understanding of 12-15 year old of the risk/benefits of Covid 19 vaccines
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/research_into_the_understanding
Response to this request is delayed. By law, Department of Health and Social Care should normally have responded promptly and by 27 September 2021 (details)
I’ve already heard of a case where a child is being put under significant coercion from both peers and teachers. Other children chanting “anti-vaxer” when the child has had every other vaccine. Teachers telling the child “it’s quite safe”.
We all know how easily children succumb to pressure under fear of being a social outcast. Under such circumstances I don’t see how any child can be considered Gillick competent. In fact few adults.
The JCVI ruled against this.
Natural immunity is far superior to the vaccine, and much safer.
Most of us have natural immunity now.
A 12 year old can’t possibly give informed consent for a medical treatment without the MHRA yellow card data. Most adults, Councils school teachers, vaccinators have no idea what this is.
All the data suggests that it doesn’t stop transmission or getting the virus.
Thousands will have severe adverse consequences shortly after the injection and in a few years time the full impact will slowly reveal itself.
This it is disgusting and dangerous and unnecessary human experiment and parents are right to avoid it.
When the FDA and the JCVI both voted in favour of NOT vaccinating children, why is this being done? Do Joe Biden and Boris know more than these two agency’s top scientists?
This coercive campaign to jab healthy, not-at-risk teenagers, really needs to fail. So the ghouls who devised it get a well-deserved kick-back in the goolies.
Tuesday 12th October Years 7/8 12+ Covid Vaccination
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I reckon ewloe whatever is from the Guardian.
I am privy to inside information or, err, disinformation.
Whatever.
May I suggest that the next time there is a commented article in said “newspaper” re covid we comment by writing the truth about it.
You will be descended upon by the likes of “Dave” a self confessed “scientist” et al who are a cross between the Spanish Inquisition and the SS.
Good entertainment though, but short lived because, being caring liberals, they tolerate no dissent from the caring narrative.
I lasted about 3 comments before being moderated – or was it lliberated.
Children just might understand the ”decision making process” but there’s every chance that many don’t have a clue about their own medical status, past problems, history of illness – all of which could be adversely affected by an experimental ”vaccine” being squirted into their body. It doesn’t matter what THEY want – it matters whether their guardians think it’s a good thing for them to have. They are ‘CHILDREN’ – what is it about that word that the government doesn’t understand?