A British man travelling back to England from France on Eurostar on Thursday was surrounded by armed French police and left stranded in Lille after being reported by the service’s manager for wearing the “wrong type of mask”. MailOnline has the story.
Eurostar requires all passengers to wear a mask onboard but a spokesman today said that there were no rules specifying what kind of masks must be worn.
Other passengers on the service said that the female manager of the train took a dislike to the man after an exchange of words, and ordered the service to stop so he could be arrested.
“I’ve done nothing wrong and respect all Coronavirus rules – this is absolutely outrageous,” he said, as he was led away in front of other stunned passengers on Thursday afternoon. …
Other passengers then complained about the unscheduled, unannounced stop in Lille that caused a 15 minutes delay.
“Why is Eurostar stopping its trains, and delaying hundreds of passengers, because of a petty dispute over one man’s mask?” said one.
The female Eurostar manager, who remained on the train after the man was taken into custody, confirmed she had reported him for wearing the “wrong type of mask” for preventing the spread of Coronavirus. …
Within minutes of departure [from Paris] the Eurostar manager was involved in a heated argument with the man.
She accused him of not complying with health and safety regulations, and said the black mask he was wearing was not appropriate.
All Eurostar passengers are expected to wear masks at all times, except for when they are eating or drinking.
There was a buffet on the train, and many of the passengers in Coach 13 – where the man was sitting alone by a window in a two-seat row – had removed their masks completely as they had sandwiches and drinks with them.
Despite this, the manager berated the man, and then used a radio to summon another member of staff. …
The businessman… replaced his black mask with a standard blue one provided by another passenger. He apologised, and appeared to have escaped any further action.
But when the train got to Lille it made an unscheduled stop, and three armed officers boarded, while the others waiting on the platform. …
[Another passenger said:] “The Eurostar woman was telling the police what to do, and insisting that the poor guy should be removed, like he was some kind of criminal.“He was actually being very reasonable, and not swearing or acting in any kind of disruptive way at all – everybody else was on his side, but he was marched off and we didn’t see him again.”
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france is 3rd world
That may be an insult to much of the third world.
Doubt I will ever visit Vichy France again.
Because of a stupid woman on a train? Very logical.
The stupid woman, the rest of the passengers on the train who did nothing, the police who got involved, their green pass and masking laws. Yes, very logical.
The stupid woman is a train manager. Her task is to remove unruly passengers, using her stupid judgement. The train police’s role is to just let that action happen – it’s not like the stupid woman will wrestle passengers herself. The court’s role is to take side of the wrongfully accused man and force the company to apologize and pay him damages for the stupid woman’s bad judgemeent. The company’s role is to fire the stupid woman to prevent any further damage to its own reputation and customers.
So before banning France, we should just chill and watch how this develops further.
Well if I see reports that France is abandoning this kind of madness and those are consistent and confirmed, then I would reconsider. But while stuff like this goes on, no thanks. There are stupid people everywhere, always have been, but broadly speaking in free, civilised countries outside of times of madness, they have not had free rein and non-stupid people have kept them in check. That has gone out of the window with covid.
Not really, it’s just being sensationalized because these silly regulations have become such a highly political issue. There has been tons of silly regulations beforehand, and silly enforcement, and hardly anyone cared.
Mostly, the current “outrage” comes from the US where it has been utilized early on by Trumpians to rally in support of their leader. But in the process it has been exported all around the entire world, as is usual with any part of the US “culture”.
“ There has been tons of silly regulations beforehand, and silly enforcement, and hardly anyone cared.” I wouldn’t classify the coronamadness as “silly regulations”. A wholesale invasion of areas of life generally considered private and not the province of government, lockdowns, vaccine coercion, hysteria, government lies, propaganda, fascism.
“Mostly, the current “outrage” comes from the US where it has been utilized early on by Trumpians to rally in support of their leader”
I’m quite happy to generate my own outrage, thanks. Don’t patronize me by telling me where my outrage comes from.
This is about France. Your reference to the US and Trump is notable only because of its total irrelevancy.
Silly?
Totalitarianism isn’t silly
And Canada is on a par with them.
The poilce could – and should, by the sounds of it – have listened to the explanation from both parties, and concluded that there was no evidence that the bloke had done nothing wrong and therefore they were not going to remove him from the train.
Police in Britain don’t often do that. Be better for us all if they did
They should be aware of the regulations before taking any action of any kind and there is, reportedly, nothing in the regulations specifying the type of mask to be worn.
The woman exceeded her authority and I hope she and the company are sued by her victim and all of the passengers who were annoyed or inconvenienced by the wholly unnecessary delay. I also hope she loses her job because she is clearly not fitted for it.
Why. The way you are talking suggests you think France is a reasonable country when it comes to the English
Because wearing the “wrong type” of mask – whatever the fuck that is – and then replacing it with a “correct” type is so “unruly” right?
You really are an utterly stupid fuckwit.
Good job he wasn’t the “wrong type” of human being like the Nazis considered some to be eh?
Australia is the real horror story.
I won’t be either. Little Napoleon with his vaccine Apartheid State has removed any reason why I’d ever want to.
“But he was marched off and we didn’t see him again.”
We’re going to be hearing that a lot more in the near future.
And did any of these people do anything to protect that man?
Like what, fight the 7 armed guards?
Speak up, stand in the way, complain to the police or the train company. Plenty of options that don’t involve fighting.
Not travelling seems by far the best option. Let Eurostar go broke.
And according to the article all of those actions you mention have been done.
Then you’d be arrested too, for having the wrong sort of thoughts.
I would have been arrested too. It would have been nice if everyone on that train came to his defense and those police had to decide if they were going to try to arrest everyone.
And I’m sure that lady who snitched him out was vaccinated.
I was on your side until you made that ridiculous comment. Would you have risked arrest, imprisonment and a criminal record because a man on a train had an argument, which may have been avoidable, with a train manager that resulted in three armed police officers carting him off? Tangling with armed police carries the risk of serious injury or death and since the argument was none of any other passenger’s business it would have been inadvisable for anyone else to involve themselves. It may well come to a point, time and place at which spirited physical resistance is necessary but a petty squabble on a train is not it.
I doubt that you would have raised even your eyebrows, preferring to sit quietly in your seat hoping that no one involved you.
What would you have done Hester?
I think there are a few who comment here at risk from ‘The Police’.
Isn’t it great that we are now seeing the true face of humanity, how the Police and “good citizens” work together to ensure obedience. Never again question how easy it was for the German people to go along with the ethnic cleansing of the Jewish race.
The people who took the above action, and those who stood by and let it happen, well its not a pleasant fact, but that it basically the majority who have played along with the Plandemic. Red in tooth and claw
I think we all understand better than we ever have how things must have played out in Nazi Germany and how Jews ended up in gas chambers.
“Gas chambers” now being delivered through the point of a needle.
My only consolation in that current saga, as a German living in the UK since 25 years.
While the crimes were obviously much bigger and more evil then (sofar, although if you add up all collateral damage and in particular 3rd world deaths through our lockdowns, let alone a deliberate or accidental eventual genocide through the gene therapies, even that starts to become debatable), the collaboration currently is in my view even less defensible than the one back then, in light of lighter penalties for disobedience, our supposed increase in knowledge and ethics and the available sources of alternative information to enable one to think for oneself.
Is the Israeli Government building gas chambers for members of their population who refuse to get jabbed?
Nobody was building gas chambers in Germany in the 1930s, either. The parallel is with the earlier stages. We might never advance to the later stages, but the point is that the attitudes and behaviours are of the same kind.
But: –
1 Many owed their lives to ordinary individuals in the Resistance, who helped Jews hide, RAF crew escape and smuggled photos of technical installations to Britain, and much more; all at immense risk to their own lives.
2 There was not only the Holocaust: Hiroshima, Nagasaki, fire-balls in German cities. It was not only ‘them’; it was all. If we remembered all, there might be less hatred and more humanity.
3 In Britain we’ve been celebrating glory but not reminded ourselves of whole horror of it, without which most were off-guard in Feb and March 20. We had a chance to stop it within days but were too few, so precedent got set, again
1945 was 76 years ago. How about not whipping this out all of the time as it’s kinda old and never really appropriate?
Human nature is the same in 2021 as it was in 1945.
And the same fear-mongering tactics work.
And presumably, the rest of the carriage kept their mouths shut like frightened little lambs and just watched as the thugs abused the guy.
What a wonderful world we’re creating.
Another keyboard warrior who ‘woulda if he coulda’. You could always put on a scarlet beret and a tee shirt and patrol the Eurostar to get involved and protect argumentative passengers from officious train managers.
Go hero go.
The ‘wrong type of mask’. What next, arrested for walking on the cracks in the pavement? For being in possession of an offensive-looking wife?
Wrong brand of “vaccine”?
There is no right one.
We all know the only true brand is Pfizer, all the other ones were just introduced as decoy.
I’m pretty sure the underlying technology is Moderna’s
That would certainly explain why Moderna’s srock value has grown by multiples, whereas Pfizer’s is has gone up much less.
It’s Moderna’s game but they’ve probably had to enlist Pfizer as a partner in crime to be able to roll out at the required scale and speed. Moderna is a very new company with no track record and little infrastructure. The Tesla of the pharma industry.
Mode RNA.
Or ugly kids.
Only the desperate and/or the feeble minded would travel anywhere under these conditions. Eurostar and any airlines enforcing similar stupidity should be boycotted and allowed to go broke.
I’d written off international travel by summer last year. No desire to jump through tyrannical hoops, fill in ‘locator forms’ or unnecessarily add my name to any sinister databases. I’m sure we’ll travel again in our lifetimes, but not until this regime has collapsed.
Funnily enough, by making that choice you are helping reduce the spread more than any vaccinated individual who still does travel. OTOH, reducing the spread by travel is now completely pointless because the virus is already everywhere, and the only way to get over it is to get everyone infected, vaccinated or not.
Gold star for me!
re: Most people have already been infected.
This also applies to athletes who are being bullied into getting a vaccine. I somehow missed this report that gave the percentage of college athletes in one sports league who had ALREADY “tested positive” by last December. The figure was 30. 4 percent.
And that was just through or until December. By this June that figure was no doubt over 50 percent.
So more than half of the athletes who have been forced to get vaccinated already have natural immunity.
The study looked at ALL athletes in the Big 10 who had tested positive between March 2020 and December 2020.
https://www.si.com/college/2021/05/27/big-ten-covid-19-myocarditis-study
Your paid troll workmates voting you up again.
International travel for the masses is a thing of the past and ‘this regime’ is not going to collapse because meaningful general elections are also a thing of the past.
And the insanity of mask-wearing is underscored when the report mentions the removal of said masks in order to eat or drink! The virus is very considerate in leaving people alone during such times, isn’t it?!
It’s been so on airplanes since the very first day. This, along with the observation that anyone can wear their mask “the wrong way” (and most people do), let me realize very quickly that all the mask mandates are just political, bureaucratic bs.
So why would you describe the individual as “unruly” (as you did in a post above) and defend his removal from a train?
When you are stood side-on to the sun, do people stood on the other side of you ever squint as the sun coming from you ear hits them in the eyes?
Aeroplanes.
He clearly didn’t believe hard enough.
Maskers fighting amongst themselves now
https://rumble.com/vnbv86-winning-the-war-against-therapeutic-nihilism-and-trusted-treatments-vs-unte.html
Everyone concerned by what lies ahead for us needs to look at this courageous talk by Peter McCullough, who confronts with truth, the lies and deceptions used against the population by their governments.
McCullough is great. Do you listen to his podcast? A rock star of the sceptical universe!
A very brave man and one who has stepped up to the challenge facing us all.
Incredibly so. And too prominent and influential to destroy the credibility of.
I’m not sure how reliable this source is, but The Expose website is carrying a story which reports that the French government wants to make covid-19 vaccines mandatory for all adults from next year. If this is the direction in which France is headed, we should all be very worried
That will trigger a civil war.
Nah, just widespread corruption and cheating.
I agree, the camp which rejects the vaccine consider it lethal, so they will never, ever submit to what they would interpret as forced euthanasia. Civil unrest would be the outcome (and I believe this is the aim).
It will not. The number of people who will actually use lethal force to defend themselves is vanishingly small.
Not in France, I’d wager.
Well it hasn’t yet. And I’m not sure I’d like to go up against one of The Vaccinated because they have been injected with nanobots and have special powers.
Latest (translated from French): The proposal of some senators to establish a vaccination obligation for all people has just been rejected by the Senate Social Affairs Committee. This obligation was wanted from January 1 by lobbyists.
The wrong type of mask? Was the train manager wearing special sunglasses and saw the mask did not have the subliminal word ‘OBEY’ on it?
It’s obvious, you can’t wear a black mask when everyone else is wearing a blue mask.
If only he’d worn leopard print. That works extremely well.
Planned, along with the eco-actors on Old Street roundabout in London today. How do they get funded and paid? Through Patreon is it…?
Anhyhow, it succeeds in shifting the news cycle away from the lack of energy, fuel and rising inflation and electricity costs.
BTW, German rail does officially require passengers to wear the FFP2 mask type (blue surgical won’t do, officially). Most people of course ignore this harebrained regulation. (It was introduced because King of Bavaria’s wife has a company selling those FFP2 masks.)
FFP2 (and FFP3 / N95) valved respirators may actually do something to protect the wearer, but cannot even pretend to protect others.
Even that vile little creature Fauci pointed this out: that’s were his “common sense” edict to wear a cloth muzzle over an N95 respirator came from.
First, don’t believe everything (or anything) you read in the #ScumMedia.
However, this wouldn’t surprise me at all. This has been a Godsend (or rather, a Satansend) for Little Hitlers everywhere. Vichy France was rife with informants, and squabbling bands of various flavours of communists stabbing and selling each other out.
However, we’re not much better ourselves. When the next lockdown happens, and our social credit score apps are rolled out, you can bet this, and worse, will happen here.
Hull Police had a ‘portal’ for people to snitch on their neighbours. Remember that?
“The police 101 reporting line is being swamped by members of the public informing on neighbours and those they perceive to be breaking the coronavirus “rule of six”, The Times understands.
Senior officers said that some forces were having to put extra staff on shifts to man the phone lines because the volume of calls had rapidly increased.”
Oddly as an opera critic I was in the process of trying to arrange a Eurostar trip to Lille. I cannot wear anything other than a visor, so I won’t be bothering. If airlines and the likes of Eurostar continue to alienate their potential customers with their ridiculous mask policies they will continue to find themselves short of passengers
There’s a strange divergence here in the UK from the terrible extremes that appear to be happening in other Western countries, I’m not sure whether to be counting my blessings, counting my chickens, or just counting down the days… what should I be counting?
Sheep? There are enough around to do away with insomnia completely…
“I’ve done nothing wrong and respect all Coronavirus rules “
This is a win win, surely?
A gullible conformist idiot gets picked on by a nasty conformist little Hitlerette, exploiting the stupid rules the said gullible idiot clearly loves, and all concerned are made to look ridiculous.
What’s not to like?
Tinpot dictators backed by armed paramilitaries.
It could happen here too.
Why didn’t the other passengers object? Forcibly.
This is an obvious example of a hypothetical prison where one example is made to make a whole population comply. They did it with the ladies meeting on the bench. Social media and 24 hour rolling news make this possible for tyrants everywhere. Delete and do not repeat as soon as you see any of this shit.
Can’t think of anything worse, than getting on a plane these days!
Says it all really.
This is what happens when tyrants empower their useful idiots.
delete
From the sounds of it the train manager simply had a bug up her bum and this poor guy got the brunt of it. In a sane world she would be fired and the man would be compensated (along with the other passengers who were delayed by this absurdity). But sanity left the building months ago.
and what is the wrong type of mask anyways? Especially when people are eating and drinking and don’t need to wear a mask at all while doing so?
At least it seems that almost everyone on the train was “on his side.” This said, it would have been nice if fellow passengers had created more of a scene and more forcefully come to his defense.
This also makes me think of a disturbing video I saw last fall. A mother had attended her son’s junior high football game (held outside of course). She was sitting with other family members away from everyone else (there wasn’t a great crowd at a junior high football game). Anyway, someone snitched on her for not wearing a mask.
First an assitant principal and then two police officers came, got into an argument with her and ultimately arrested her, hauling her away from her son’s game (with her small son crying beside her). To make the story even more surreal, two of the cops who arrested her weren’t wearing a mask either.
But what got me is that nobody in the bleachers stood up for her.
I’ve seen a similar video of a family seeking to dine in New York City. The manager accosts them and asks for their vaccine passport. The father says he didn’t get a vaccine for religious reasons. When the manager leaves for a minute, the father asks all the other diners if they are okay with this? The man is just trying to get a meal for himself and his two children.
All the other diners apparently are perfectly fine with this. Nobody said, “leave this family alone.” In fact, one diner shot him a bird.
Until significant pushback against these Gestapo mask and vaccine police occurs, such events will continue.
All this said. It is good such stories are being documented at sites like this.
I have never seen an unarmed French policeman. Why does that form part of the narrative?
I think the important question here is can we catch Coronavirus with a mouthful of cheese and pickle .Obviously its not practical to eat any sort of food with a mask on it just gets messy.The highly qualified (no doubt) Eurostar manager was right to abuse her miniscule authority and challeng this man .Despite sceptics its a scietific fact that both paper and cloth masks can stop an invisible airborne microbe .Well done Eurostar and well done British government for turning once sensible people into gibbering morons
Nothing shows concern over an airborne respiratory disease like an open buffet for your passengers.
Everything makes sense in Clown World.
All police in France are armed so, although I disagree with the over the top reaction, the headline is misleading. Would mean more if it was in this country (UK).
Soon be on east coast mainline
What the bloody hell is “a standard blue one” FFS?
Any piece of filthy old rag seems to pass for a muzzle here in the UK.
That Eurostar manager woman needs attention from someone armed, she really does!
This is, to coin a phrase, unbelievable…
People, bookmark and arm yourself with this: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/47-studies-confirm-inefectiveness-of-masks-for-covid-and-32-more-confirm-their-negative-health-effects/ *masks* *do* *not* *work*.
This is what happens when you give someone a bit of power over their fellow human beings – they take more.
Hopefully this woman will be sacked for causing so much disruption and apparently being so unreasonable.