There follows a guest post by retired dentist Dr. Mark Shaw on the strangeness of this ongoing ‘pandemic’.
I was booked in for a telephone consultation with a new representative from my pension company recently. We introduced ourselves and somehow couldn’t avoid the subject of Covid. I didn’t want to get too involved in a potentially awkward discussion but couldn’t hold back from highlighting the illogic in so much of the Government’s response to the disease. I sensed he too wanted to remain neutral so it was both a relief and quite surprising to hear him respond with: “I have to agree – it all does seem so very odd.”
Do I sense a point in time, a turning point, now where more and more people are thinking the same?
In the last 18 months:
- How is it that cases (in the medical clinical sense) were in the past always referred to as those patients with symptoms (i.e. real patients) but are now classified as people who have tested positive on a (novel and unreliable) test?
- How is it that symptomless people now have to isolate when this was not necessary for people with flu (a deadly respiratory virus) pre-Covid? Where is the evidence that people without symptoms spread illness?
- If vaccination helps stop spread (and most of the population are vaccinated), and the elderly and vulnerable are much less likely to be seriously ill having been vaccinated, then why do the vaccinated need to isolate, and why should any asymptomatic person isolate?
- If most who were seriously ill from Covid were the very old and vulnerable and they have been vaccinated, why should everyone else be jabbed when herd immunity can be reached naturally and is likely to be a stronger, safer form of immunity?
- Why have deaths from Covid been recorded as deaths occurring within 28 days of a positive test when no such recording system was used pre-Covid for infective respiratory diseases?
- How come, for all the years I studied and practised as a dentist, there was no good evidence that wearing masks in public had any beneficial effect whatsoever against airborne viruses, until Covid came along? (Hint: it’s not because there is now good scientific evidence for masks.)
- How come, if I search hard enough on the internet, I’m seeing huge crowds protesting against lockdowns and forced vaccinations in cities across the world, but this is not shown on the BBC?
- Why has the Government not invited any (zero) of the well-known medical experts from organisations such as HART, like Dr Clare Craig and Dr John Lee, and those endorsing the Great Barrington Declaration to scrutinise the data presented by SAGE at the numerous Government press briefings?
- Why has the BBC been interviewing young adults recently who are reluctant to be vaccinated and portraying them as being naïve, lacking intelligence, courage or having extreme conspiracy theories whilst not broadcasting interviews with many thousands of sensible young adults who would question the logic and have genuine health concerns following their balanced, logical risk assessment?
- If the disease is now still so deadly why can politicians, FIFA officials etc. be exempt from some of the restrictions imposed on the public? Why can healthcare workers and other key workers be ‘pinged’ but then exempted from isolating if the disease is so deadly?
- Why has the BBC not openly debated for hours on end the evidence that lockdowns work or that they cause huge overall harm? And if they work why are ‘cases’ plummeting since ‘Freedom Day’, and why have countries like Sweden and some states in America with no meaningful lockdowns or mask-wearing mandates fared no worse than those with strict lockdowns?
- Why have the principles of informed consent, first do no harm, careful prescribing following a thorough risk/benefit analysis, and an ethical obligation to prevent patients from being coerced into accepting a particular course of medical treatment all been abandoned specifically for Covid?
While my own experience of not knowing anyone who has died from Covid may not be representative, I do see hundreds of people each day who are still alive and well. I have talked to many people each week since February 2020 and I have only heard of one relative of these people that died of or with Covid. Maybe my situation is completely unique but I have also searched the internet for celebrities and those in the public eye who have died from Covid and can’t find anyone I know of and, of those listed, many were in their 70s, 80s or over (isn’t this more dying of old age?). I know that people really are dying of Covid and it would be just as daft to pretend people don’t die of flu and old age but if it is so deadly, why don’t I know or have heard of more of them?
Doesn’t it all seem so very odd?


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None of this seems odd if you accept that the true purpose of COVID-19(84) is sinister beyond imagination. Literally war against humanity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqUdRTkuOZg san diego , jsut in case you tube deletes by tomorow
I know no one who has died from covid. I know people who have had it, but they have recovered. I do not doubt that people have died from it – but people have also died from all kinds of other conditions, many of which were exacerbated by the lack of treatment due to the insane obsession with covid. More people need to do some hard thinking about what has happened to this country and indeed the whole world during this last 17 months, and realise that they have been royally conned by tyrants and despotic and often biased and ignorant so called experts. In 1967/8, over 80,000 died from Hong Kong flu in the UK, yet lockdowns, repressive measures, etc were not imposed. I know -I was 21. I remember. So why now have we put up with this totalitarianism? Are we so stupid?
How is it that cases (in the medical clinical sense) were in the past always referred to as those patients with symptoms (i.e. real patients) but are now classified as people who have tested positive on a (novel and unreliable) test?
This is the most important point, but as I have said innumerable times a positive test for SARS-CoV-2 virus does not mean Covid-19, which is the nasty, immune-mediated consequence of infection in some people. And anyway a positive test does not distinguish between those who have the virus (and might be infectious) and those who had it a while back (and are not).
It does not matter, from an individual clinical viewpoint, if you have an infection without developing Covid-19. It does matter if you do. So the priority is to decide whether someone who is unwell is developing Covid-19. This is determined not by LFT or PCR testing but by oxygen saturation and blood tests that indicate or predict a developing hyperimmune state such as serum ferritin, C-reactive protein, D-dimer (good one for predicting thrombotic complications). It’s not the virus infection that kills you, but the immune response to it; so these tests will indicate to clinicians… Read more »
Thanks for the feedback Wryobserver. I think more people should have listened to you. Hopefully, going forward, more people will. Please persist.
Each wave of terrorizing creates its effects more easily – after a breathing spell – than the one that preceded it because people are still disturbed by their previous experience.
Morality becomes lower and lower and the psychological effects of each new propaganda campaign becomes stronger; it reaches a public already softened up.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/tyranny/totalitarianism-how-to-achieve-it/
The war against COVID-19 is not meant to be won. It is meant to be continuous.
It’s not odd at all once you realise that this is an agenda being played out to give more power and contol to the ruling class (not politicians). We’re being led into a Chinese style social credit system and what is odd is that most people cannot see it.
“We’re being led into a Chinese style social credit system and what is odd is that most people cannot see it.” Absolutely, very very strange. My Partner’s family all intelligent people (supposedly) all had both jabs either completely unaware or when I talk about it think I’m the one that’s mad! Very very odd. I’m afraid heads and brick walls spring to mind. At my wits end really.
Two thirds of adults are overweight or obese. Two thirds of adults may well have a personal cost benefit analysis tending towards NPIs and injections.
This is a finely put explanation of the oddity of it all. It’s especially interesting to hear from questioning people from within the medical community. As I’ve said before, I’ve never been aware of people dropping in the streest, ambulances racing about and over-worked crematoria. The only people I have heard of being affected by covid has come from overheard conversations in shops. However, I do know a member of my small keep-fit group who developed bell’s palsy after receiving the jab. When I asked her whether she had reported it she was surprised to learn from me about the Yellow Card reporting system. How many others with side effects have not entered the reported figures, I ask? A former work colleague has bottled out of his second jab after hearing disturbng news about side effects, including a prominent figure within our work circle who, to quote, ‘had a massive heart attack caused by a blood clot on the afternoon that he had his second jab.’ I’m sure others can provide similarly disturbing anecdotal evidence. As regards the BBC, it’s not fit for purpose. Everything it touches displays its political agenda. Even it’s new show Baptiste is turning into a… Read more »
Out on the town last night. Bumped into someone I’d not seen since the start of the first lockdown. He recently caught Covid even though he was double jabbed. The person he caught it off? Yep, double jabbed too.
This isn’t a vaccine. Must be a lot of people out there who’ve played the game and caught it. Got to be people asking themselves similar questions now.
Any day now Toby is going to announce on London Calling that Delingpole has been right all along and that the crisis is being orchestrated.
I can feel it coming…
I’m waiting for the moment when Julia Hartley Brewer realises that the injections are not all they’re cracked up to be, to put it mildly.
Because this has nothing to do with a disease it’s all to do with surveillance and control. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE WAKE UP EVERYONE!!!
DO NOT CONSENT, DO NOT COMPLY. Say NO! NO! NO!
Says it all…
2020, people scared shitless, everything locked down to save the NHS thus enabling it to choreograph morale boosting TikTok dances.
Everybody banged pots and pans. Every one noticed. Business fucked.
2003 to 1920 all years had a higher death rate per 100,000 than 2020. No one noticed.
1940 had a far higher rate of death per 100,000 than in 2020. Every one noticed the Blitz. Business as usual.
When in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.
Bang those pans, smash those pots, clap your hands, lots and lots.
What am I doing, you may ask, just be quiet, wear your mask.
Anon (soon to be unknown)
Still, never mind. Look on the bright side of life.
The past 18 months or so have confirmed all of my best feelings about this England and its population of fearful virtue signaling supine bullying baying malleable inhabitants who have so easily betrayed the memories of those who fought and died to give them the freedom to be able to throw away the liberties they have obviously become bored with.
Oh Boris Boris you wonderful beautiful bumbling charming charlatan with your chatelaine beside you. Dominate me and dangle the fruits… Read more »
Not just in England, as The Postcards show, and then not even in England, as the Football, festivals, social gatherings show. Maybe its all pysops
Apologies, off topic, but might bring a smile to those that haven’t seen this yet, (I know most will have).
Years ahead of his time!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X29lF43mUlo
George Carlin’s bit about his immune system. It’s a classic.
Try having a telephone appointment with an NHS Physiotherapist, that was weird..I’ve had no problems seeing a Dentist or a Practice Nurse…as GP’s go AWOL….
I always assumed physios were hands-on pre 2020 but even then all they did was ask clipboard questions and send you away with an exercise sheet without laying a finger on you.
I had a fairly good one when I did something unspeakably painful to my neck/shoulder. He listened, poked around a bit then went out of the room to fetch an exercise sheet. When he came back in I was already doing the exercise he recommended because I discovered it worked . . .
“A list of questions that should be put to every senior politician and SAGE member, and full answers required, with hostile cross-examination backed by experts from the sceptical camp, under oath.”
Haha! Does anyone seriously believe this is going to happen?
You are living under a lie. No-one is brave enough to actually do anything about it, though, other than waffle about where spike proteins might end up, talk about ‘Nuremburg 2’, and wave some placards on a ‘peaceful protest’. Oh, and there might be a tussle with the Police and a few protesters carted off in Police vans.
What will happen is that the Vaccine Passport, which is already here, will be used to control your lives. Those who don’t get ‘vaccinated’ will not be accepted into the ‘New Society’ and will find themselves barred from services, refused employment, refused medical treatment, refused to be allowed onto public transport, denied Social Security payments and unemployment benefits.
Your children will be ‘vaccinated’ in their schools whether you like it or not.
Every day more are ‘vaccinated’ and there are fewer ‘unvaxxed’. The noose is tightening. Depressing, I know, but we cannot live on hope and optimism alone. Kids have already… Read more »
A good account to Follow on Gab:
https://gab.com/vaccineregrets
Most interesting, thanks
Why do the ONS excess deaths not reach the figures quoted for those quoted as dying of covid, are they included in the average 600,000 yearly, the excess deaths are no where near the 120,000.
Because lockdowns saved thousands of people who would have died in ordinary circumstances. Like from flu or car accidents.
That is what people who you present your argument to and refuse to budge say.
I know many old people from here in East Anglia to Blackburn in the North West. Aged between 78 and 101 with different ailments. THEY ARE ALL STILL HERE…enjoying relatively good health despite this ‘deadly virus’ killing the vulnerable!
The phrases “build back better” and “the new normal” were adopted very quickly, in fact unbelievably quickly, across the world. Tells it all really doesn’t it?
This is succinctly put and gets to the very heart of the matter, in a no nonsense, matter of fact way. Which is how it needs to be approached to avoid the usual conspiracy labels that are thrown at folk for daring to mention these truths out loud!
thank you Dr Shaw.
Would be great on a flyer, and put through every letterbox!
Exactly! I suspect this person’s experience reflects that of many, many folk. And I suspect that the number of vaxxed is in reality way lower than the 90% oft quoted.
Most people I know have been jabbed, so from my POV the official figures seem accurate
Sadly I must agree, it is like the Borg have assimilated everyone over the age of 30 in Scotland. There are a few who hold out, hidden in corners and caves but sadly most now belong to the collective.
Probably wishful thinking on my part. But if it’s only 10% who are not jabbed why are they pushing it so? Do they imagine that small a number will infect the minds of parents to not get their kids jabbed? Doubt it. So what’s the game?
They want to get rid of any meaningful control group.
The 90% is for the groups that were first in the queue – older people mainly. It’s much less than 90% among the young.
Those who have been vaxxed, must be so disappointed that (1) their immunity is short lived and (2) they can get COVID, transmit it, need hospitalisation and occasionally some have now died.
They will be mighty reluctant to admit it
Have you ever received the paper leaflets issued by the NHS, and did you read them? Makes one wonder whether anyone does do that. They haven’t promised that they won’t catch the virus, or pass it on (to use their terms). Only that it may reduce the symptoms, in effect.
Captain Sir Tom Moore, who surely must be THE celebrity of the pandemic, died from Covid. However, he was over 100 and he caught it in one of “our NHS” hospitals.
I suspect more people than we realise might be thinking along the same lines but are discouraged from speaking out due to the daily doom laden messaging from the main stream media and the fact the government has been keeping us all isolated for the last 16 months.
Which says something about the calibre of most people.
No. It emphasizes the power of brainwashing.
I think the biggest obstacles are:
1) Fear of the virus. Lots of people are still worried – lots are not, but a significant number are
2) Reluctance to admit to yourself and others than you were wrong and have been had – sunk cost fallacy
3) Resistance to facing the awful truth that our leaders are evil
Great post.
On 1) Agreed there is still a huge amount of fear. Most obvious signal is mask wearing outside. There are two men, who look to be in their late/mid 30s, who some lunchtimes take a stroll together past my house, and have been doing so for a long time now. Both wear masks ( the white heavy grade ones) and walk at more than arms length from each other. It’s a stark picture. I would love to know their story.
2) Human nature, cognitive dissonance, and might there also be an element that you have been enjoying the virtue signalling, clapping, rainbows, making masks for your neighbours, keeping people safe by following the arrows blah blah blah. Who knew saving your fellow man could make you feel this good!
3) this I know to be a fact because I have actually had people say to me “I trust the Government” or “Why would they do that?”
Blows the mind.
““I trust the Government””
… led by one of the most notorious (and known) liars to cross the threshold of No.10. 🙂
I reckon that’s right.
The one that is most underestimated is the last. It’s what I call the ‘abusing parent’ or ‘Sugar Daddy’ syndrome, and it is very powerful – and in total contradiction to the tedious and empty rhetoric about ‘politicians’ that you hear.
It’s even more bizarre when you consider the context.
This is a disease that is, maybe, twice as bad as an outbreak of a very severe flu. In 2 such flu seasons we can easily reach 60,000 deaths. We’ve had 2 covid seasons and have reached (maybe) 120,000 deaths – and that’s being a bit over “generous” with the official figures which we know significantly over-estimate the impact.
So, for a disease that is twice as bad as a flu, which we have lived with quite normally without the need for any restrictions whatsoever, we have done all this? The outrageous disproportionality of the measures taken really does beggar belief.
The measures are not even slightly commensurate with the threat level.
One might also ask why phrases like “build back better” and “the new normal” were talked about very early on in the pandemic. How could they possibly know, at this stage, that we were going to have to radically re-structure our societies?
And consider that this radical re-structuring is deemed necessary for a disease that is only twice as bad as flu.
Doesn’t really add up at all does it?
Strip out the 30-50% of covid deaths that are hospital-acquired and you’re back at a tolerable 60,000pa. Always remember that “our NHS” killed Captain Colonel Sir Tom Moore.
How, have I missed something?
“ twice as bad as an outbreak of a very severe flu”
Nowhere near – by any criterion! It is a disease of LOW severity.
Or – as PHE agreed NO ‘High Consequence’.
Check the mortality figures. Don’t even bother with age adjustment – just population standardisation will prove the point.
I feel the objective is to condition us with continual lockdowns.
Climate lockdowns will occur when we realise Tesla battery farms are a death trap and cannot store enough power. The population is very is easy to control when there is no energy. They already control the money printing.
It’s actually at the bottom end of the Severe Flu IFR scale. A typical severe flu has an IFR of 0.2-0.4%. Covid19 is looking like 0.15-0.2%. Also the latter is heavily skewed towards the very old and/or already immunocompromised. In those <70 and reasonable healthy the IFR is significantly lower. In the much younger age groups it trends towards zero. This cannot be said for influenza, which historically causes fatalities across the board.
Odd is the word. I don’t know anyone who has been hospitalised through Covid. I only know of two people, since March last year, who have even had it…and one had a positive test even though his symptoms were a headache and diarrhoea, nothing respiratory. I certainly haven’t heard of anyone, amongst all the people I know, having died…..or even hearing of anyone they know having died with or from covid.
I don’t even know of anyone who has been “pinged”. I don’t think very many people that I mix with even have the NHS app, and one who did have it has recently deleted it.
I know someone who looks after a Cemetery, he reports no excess burials. The numbers have been much the same as any other year. The only difference has been a few busy weeks through people holding back interments, because of restrictions on numbers at funerals. Overall, the numbers are not unusual or excessive. In fact this year has been a bit quieter than normal.
So where are all the cases coming from then? Or is someone just plain lying? And if so, why?
I know people who have been pinged or had positive tests, no one seriously ill. This pandemic is just not visible to most of us
Yes. Please read my piece above about cremations.
Here in Suffolk I still know far more people who had a suspiciously covid-like illness between October 2019 and February 2020 than had “official” covid. All survived. A relative of a friend (healthcare worker) was hospitalised but got out again.
There are lots of old folk here and often a winter purge. One year there were more ambulances than buses going up and down the street for a while.
Nothing at all like that in the last two years.
I did overhear a couple of nurses talking, they were being tested every three days and one said their patients were “dropping like flies”, I assume an old folks home. This was just after the flu vaccine campaign, not sure when the covid “vaccine” was rolled out.
In general though nothing out of the ordinary at all.
Agree 100%. My wife and I are both retired dentists and were never under any illusion that masks protected us from respiratory viruses. We have tried to discuss this and the other points in this article with friends and family without much success. I worry for all the mask wearers who have been conned into believing they are protecting themselves and others.
But if the virus is on the wane and is becoming low risk to everyone, the masks are irrelevant
I have 3 dentist friends in Germany who are all Covidians and love masks.
I sent them the respective studies, but all they say is ‘I have no problems, no outbreaks at dentist practices so they must work’.
One of them has a house in Sweden.
He goes on vacation there to mask up and educate the locals thereby.
Needless to say, we have little contact anymore.
I’ve not noticed any turning point. Vast majority of my work colleagues and acquaintances are still 100% convinced covid was exceptional and they’ve all been vaxxed.
Yes. It certainly is odd. I, too, wondered why there was a laxity around restrictions and so many exemptions to the rules when we were told that this disease was so deadly. And, on visiting a memorial at our local crematorium, to be told by the groundsman that last winter cremations reached 12 per day (‘as they do every winter’ he said) the penny dropped for me. There have been many ‘giveaways’ such as the age-standardised annual mortality rates published by the Institute & Faculty of Actuaries…unreported in the mainstream media. Hitchens was probably right in blaming government panic and incompetence at the outset of Covid. But, having spent seventeen months denying, and distancing myself from, conspiracy theories, some do now look more credible. Especially as our politicians and the media influencers seem bent on transforming society at breakneck speed under the cover of the virus.
Opportunism, and self preservation (politically) is at large.
I think many of us have got to this point by a similar process of looking at the actual data, and finding a total disconnect with the government narrative.
Mine happened when the ‘news conferences’ started in late March 2020 (?) and all the markers of a propaganda narrative appeared, reinforced by BBC reporting and investigative journalism disappearing over the horizon in pursuit of continuing healthy salaries.
I looked at mortality data – and voila!
Nothing odd, it is all going to plan. The technocrats and psychocrats that meet regularly at places like Davos and Sun Valley are looking after us all.