Almost a quarter of Brits contacted by Test and Trace in the week up to July 21st refused to disclose their recent close contacts, as reports suggest that people are beginning to revolt against the ‘pingdemic’. MailOnline has the story.
The controversial contact tracing system made 250,000 calls in the seven-day spell ending July 21st, making it the busiest week since the darkest period of the second wave in January.
But nearly a quarter of infected people who were contacted didn’t cooperate, in a signal that people may now be trying to protect family, friends and colleagues from having to self-isolate.
The rate of Covid-infected people who’ve avoided naming close contacts has risen consistently since the third wave started to gather steam in June, from 14.1% to 23.1%.
Government data yesterday underlined just how bad the ‘pingdemic’ has become, with a record 1.5 million quarantine instructions sent out in the same week.
Millions of workers have been unable to do their jobs because they’ve been told to isolate, leaving supermarket shelves empty, pubs and restaurants shut, and trains cancelled across the country. …
The £37 billion Test and Trace programme – set-up last May – has been branded a monumental waste of money by politicians for failing in its only goal to stop another lockdown.
Since it was set up 14 months ago, England has faced two more national lockdowns and two Covid waves. …
If NHS Test and Trace contact tracers are unable to reach infected people, their details are passed on to local authorities to follow-up.
Of the 251,190 people asked to provide close contacts in the most recent week, just 193,000 provided the names and numbers of those who they may have passed the virus onto.
More than 58,000 refused to do so.
Worth reading in full.
To join in with the discussion please make a donation to The Daily Sceptic.
Profanity and abuse will be removed and may lead to a permanent ban.
This is good news, as far as it goes.
The only hope there is, imo, is that they push these things too far. Non-compliance is the only likely way out.
Absolutely agree, all my friends know that if they give my details that’s the end of the friendship, luckily they all feel likewise.
We need some activism against this Covid & Climate nonsense
Power On: Wind and Solar Are No Substitute for Real Dependable Energy
https://stopthesethings.com/2021/07/30/power-on-wind-and-solar-are-no-substitute-for-real-dependable-energy/
Stand in South Hill Park Bracknell every Sunday from 10am meet fellow anti lockdown freedom lovers, keep yourself sane, make new friends and have a laugh.
Join our Stand in the Park – Bracknell – Telegram Group
http://t.me/astandintheparkbracknell
All my friends have been schooled and know the first rule of track and trace club is, WE DON’T TALK ABOUT TRACK AND TRACE!
Thereby committing a criminal offence, incidentally, just one of the new fiats from Great Leader Johnson.
I wonder how many of these were contacted through their Spy-and-Snitch app, and why you’ve have it if you’re not going to rat people out?
Ohhh… the public, third and salaried sectors only have it so that they can get another 10 days of free summer holiday. If they grass on their workmates too, they’ll come back to a full desk.
“I do not recall,” has been used by politicians throughout history to deny responsibility. Time to get our own back..
There may well be individuals exploiting this aspect of the shit-show, but your wild grudge belly-aching about a whole swathe of society is just another example of damaging Covid brain-warp.
You fail to mention the private sector – which has raked in massive amounts of boodle from the shit-show. I guess that typifies anyone who works in the private sector? 🙂
Christ you’re a whiner
He’s a whiner who wedges his own political opinions into most his posts while throwing tantrums at anyone who has the audacity to criticise his flavour of politics (communism it would seem).
I think Rick H is sometimes guilty of accusing people of what he himself is guilty of, and I don’t share some of his political views, but in this case he is right, IMO. I know plenty of people in the private sector, employees and corporations, who have sustained and embraced coronamadness. It’s a widespread phenomenon. The only generalisation I would make is that people who’ve not been able to WFH have from what I have seen tended to be more sanguine – by necessity as much as by inclination.
The key word there is generalised. He’s completely ignoring the countless small/medium businesses that have had to shut thanks to lockdown/restrictions/pings. These are the the beating heart of the private sector, not the giant corporations that are ripping the soul out of every country they operate in.
Yes, they have suffered more than most, and probably more than most have been opposed to the madness. In fairness, Rick H’s generalisation was a reaction to someone else’s.
I think it was in The Telegraph that I read a comment about “Ping Parties”, I understand that groups of friends who want to have 10 days off get together with somebody who’s tested positive and they all put their phones together, have a party then they all get pinged so thy can carry on partying.
Yup, my brother bent over backwards to accommodate his employees for over a year, to be rewarded by catching a bunch of his salaried office staff putting their phones together when they returned to the office.
He’s still pondering on the best way to get rid of the ingrates, whether he’ll be able to replace them with anything better, or whether he’d just be better off without them at all.
He should just tell them ‘get pinged, don’t get paid if you don’t follow up with a positive test’. They can only do it once since reinfection rates are practically zero.
He’s already told them that if they show up when they’re not actually ill then it’s coming out of their paid holidays, and if they claim to be ill then they have 7 days to get a doctor’s note.
However, actually sacking someone who’s claiming to be evvvver so sick is legally problematic and an extended process, so he’s minded to just go for “redundancies” instead and get shot of as many spongers as possible in one go.
Long before the Covid scam, I decided it was wise to use contractors and agency staff as much as possible rather than take on PAYE staff. If you are a small business it is too much of a risk: it only needs one feckless arsehole to destroy the whole business.
He can send anonymous letters to their spouses telling them that they are having affairs with other men/women. Usually works a treat.
Our society is filled with enough layabouts and parasites to drag us into a socialist nightmare.
Party on morons.
Are these the same people who love the idea of a surveillance society, by any chance?
My impression is that test and trace was a hurried set up in the early days of the pandemic, a copy of Germany who were perceived to be doing well with it.
Now the reality is that more tests are being conducted in the UK than the whole of the rest of Europe out together. More money is being spent on Test and Trace than the whole of the primary care budget, which includes GPs.
Public, is it really helping your health to allocate so much to tell you to isolate? Or, would it help you more to reallocate some of this money to GPs so they can catch up with all the other medical conditions currently neglected due to lockdown?
is that code for – people tell T&T to fcuk off
Amazing that 77% of people actually cooperate at all.
A country filled with obedient conformist sheep marching the rest of us off to concentration camps.
Afraid so, Hitler would have done well here.
I can but envision the shade of old Adolf kicking himself (or Himmler) in whatever constitutes the Germanic version of Hell, and shouting that, instead of sending waves of Messerschmitts, all he really needed to do to conquer Britain was cough a couple of times.
Pathetic.
And three-quarters if the cretinous sheepings do rat on all their contacts?
Well, you have to start somewhere.
The last 15 months have been a real eye opener for me. Turns out most people don’t want to be free and would like to live in an authoritarian state.
Same for me. It scares me shitless.
I am skeptical that these people are being uncooperative by refusing to hand over their contacts – I expect that they either have fake contact details or they just aren’t answering the calls.
It still begs the question of why these people went to get tested in the first place though? 🤷🏻♀️
Many have to get regular testing for their work.
I know someone who cooks for old people, his firm tell him to test
I know others who work with the public who get tested
I know people who test themselves because they think it’s the right thing to do
A lot of these people have secondary school age kids and they get sent the test kits, the whole family do them
Yes, they pride themselves on it! Some line up all the tests in the kitchen in the morning and all swab each other. Cross contamination potential doesn’t seem to occur to them.
Y’know, ‘they all swab each other‘ sounds incredibly creepy.
But aren’t they lateral flow tests? I thought that the track and trace system only used PCR tests? In order to avoid malicious reporting it has to be done “officially” not self-reported.
GOOD!!!!
As I am retired, and therefore most days are often exactly like the ones before, and I often can’t remember what I had for breakfast never mine who I was with 3 days ago, T&T wouldn’t get much information out of me anyway! 😄But yes, I’ve told friends that my personal details remain just that, personal. Anyone who gives out my private phone number and address to anyone without asking, will be my friend no longer.
It’s worth blocking the number to be sure. 0300 013 5000 .
I have also blocked 0300 1237790 as I understand thats another number they use.
I never answer unknown calls on my landline (and my mobile is not normally on, most of the day). Lots of junk calls that that don’t leave any message though. This is sometimes interesting when I look them up: https://who-called.co.uk/
In England in June 2021, 7 of the 10 leading causes of death were significantly lower than the five-year average (2015 to 2019). As seen in recent months, the mortality rate for deaths with an underlying cause of influenza and pneumonia was 42.7% lower in June 2021 than the five-year average for June; this is likely in part because of coronavirus restrictions and guidance, such as social distancing, reducing the spread of infections such as flu.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/monthlymortalityanalysisenglandandwales/june2021
Also Please buy my Bridge!
I like the way you don’t seem to get the ACTUAL numbers for “influenza and pneumonia” to see if one death cert excuse has replaced another…
T&T is like “Papers Please” on steroids…
Not only asking for your papers but everyone you met!
You don’t know whether the Stasi would be impressed or surprised so many go along with this twaddle.
if the government thought the vaccine was a) safe b) effective and c) covid hyper-dangerous then they would mandate the vaccines
they don’t, so I expect they don’t
The people at the top know very well what they are doing, and why. They are not stupid.
Dominic Cummings is – lol! did you see his whiteboard? he’s so stupid he thinks he’s clever
Dunning Kruger does that to folks.
Cummings was probably actually one of the clever ones – thick as pigshit all the same. They may be evil, but they are not clever
It depends on your definition of clever. They are not Einstein, or anything close, or original thinkers. But they are not stupid. I don’t think they can possibly believe their own lies. They are versed in the art of lying, they need to understand what plays well with the public and media and what doesn’t. They are manipulators. They cannot possibly be unware of the obvious holes in their arguments – it takes no great intelligence to see those. I mean, only the seriously retarded couldn’t see those holes, and of course the seriously gullible.
“They cannot possibly be unware of the obvious holes in their arguments – it takes no great intelligence to see those”
that depends how much reading round the subject they do. listen to R4 and watch BBC news and you get very different information to process
I don’t suppose they spend ages thinking it all through, but the big stuff I am sure they cogitate on. The PM must know that the models and the prediction-that-wasn’t-a-prediction from Whitty are bunk. As a minimum they will think about the political consequences of things.
That’s all they think about.
I see a lot of those in government effortlessly comfortable with a level of cognitive dissonance that hurts me.
Orwell called it doublethink: to hold two contradictory positions, knowing them to be contradictory and believing both of them. A regime and society based on lies can do nothing else.
Have you read Nineteen Eighty Four?
These guys believe their own bullshit. They are well practised in doublethink.
Yes, I have read 1984 many times. O’Brien, from the Inner Party, knew it was all lies, and was quite open about this to Winston: “Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power.“
Agreed, senior ministers are both stupid and hopelessly corrupted. The rest of the MPs are mostly thickos, and at least partially corrupted. I managed to manipulate my thicko Labour MP into repeatedly voting against the Coronabollocks act. However, the stupid old fool now thinks that passports etc are perfectly fine as a solution. He genuinely cannot understand that if “vaccines” do not prevent transmission then passports are worthless at best. He is too thick to trust in his own reasoning and just believes whatever the majority of his flock think. He will not do any research into whether vaccines indeed fail to prevent transmission. I’m working on another letter right now, it is hard work writing it in a way that will “nudge” him into thinking the correct way – I’d probably be pretty capable were I to switch to the SPI-B darkside, but even “nudging” a cretin like that makes me feel bad inside.
I think we need to define what we mean by stupid. If we mean gullible then yes, probably a lot of backbench MPs are as gullible as the rest of the population. The leadership – not so much. It seems unlikely they believe their own lies.
None of them are stupid in the sense of not being able to think logically. You don’t get into Eton and Oxford if you’re a dunce. Do they rigorously apply logic for the common good? Of course not. But they could, if they wanted to.
The inner circle get their briefing from a 3rd party, the same one used by most western governments, they all pay a fortune for it.
Biden last night used exactly the same words as Macron two days earlier. Its coordinated so the ‘delivery boys’ ie the national governments can work together.
The innner circle are qualified by virtue of their previous employers, their personal aspirations, and above all by their greed.
They have been promised very large crumbs off the table for timely delivery.
They are all consumed by international groupthink.
I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out Blair’s Institute is involved in the 3rd party ‘guidance’ of governments.
Oxford is full of thickos. especially doing PPE. its not a proper degree – more like a cocktail party for children of the wealthy. I could pass a PPE degree with a week of cramming.
Well you probably know more than I do but the entry requirements for PPE at Oxford are AAA. Again it depends how you measure intelligence, but I think it’s stretching it to define some with 3 As at A level as thick. The level of intelligence required to understand that the whole thing is nonsense is really minimal. The problem is gullibility. Does the PM believe the claptrap he comes out with? I doubt it.
This is purely based on my personal experience but from what I have seen most people who do well at A level, go onto a good university and get a good degree are gullible and actually pretty hopeless when it comes to real life.
Probably, but the difference is that the PM and others are part of the group that is fabricating the lies. I tend to think those who lie big tend not know exactly what they are doing.
I knew a man who was educated at a public school. He was well groomed and articulate – and, indeed, had passed exams. He was very personable and well presented. It took me quite a while to work out that he was as thick as pigshit but had been trained to punch above his weight.
How do you define “thick”? What was his IQ?
Not sure about that, Hancock was certainly stupid as are most people in the cabinet and the shadow cabinet.
How do you define stupid? You’d need an IQ of 80 or under not to realise the whole thing is a scam, or to be very gullible. But he’s one of the chief liars, so he knows very well he is lying.
They are arrogant. They believe they are truly brilliant and that the rest of us are stupid.
They are right about the majority being stupid (gullible)
Discounting ‘obvious risks’ of within family and between colleague transmission, contacts identified by T&T appear to catch covid around about 2% of the time.
I’d suggest that the general public have worked out that it is completely and utterly useless, and have responded accordingly.
Why do these people “refuse to disclose” the names of their contacts? Why not just say you live a very quiet life and don’t have contact with many people? Unless you’re some famous bigwig, no one would be any the wiser surely? This will just provide ammunition to the govt to make T&T compulsory. Or more compulsory than it already is. It provides the “justification” for detention centres for anyone who tests positive. Or perhaps I’m just having (yet another) bad day…
Anyway I thought the majority of the “pingdemic” (why does everything have to be given an infantile name these days?) was a result of the app, not the T&T service.
T&T service can’t possibly phone a million people a day or whatever it is
this is the stupid pings – and people gaming it
big stupid waste of money
Or you could go the other way. Need to get an annoying colleague out of the way for awhile? don’t like your neighbour or brother in law? Then tell T & T they were one of your contacts 😂
Off out to the pub tonight. The first time since the stupid “mask unless seated” bullshit came in.
No phone, signing in as B Johnson if it’s still required? Doubt I will get many more such nights out before the VAX passports roll up. Be interesting to see how things have changed since I supped my last pint!
It’s not required to sign in. Hope you have a nice time. The trick is to try and block out all the background chatter because if you start to listen to all the ridiculously uninformed Coronabollocks conversations around you it will be totally depressing. One change you might notice is that £5+ per pint is often the new normal now.
Interesting to see how many fellow Brits sign in as B Johnson. Bottoms up!
I had an issue trying to download the app last year and for someone reason I never tried again.
I had Covid in March 2020, got both my jabs. I have done my duty and am as safe as I am ever going to be. When I go into a pub I scan the image but, it doesn’t do anything. Hmm, and I’ve never been pinged.
And that won’t be changing.
Bobybuilder Mike Mitchell dead aged 65. He starred in Gladiator and Braveheart and bragged online about being vaxxd, parroted the line heavily about it all being for the common good, died within days of third shot – all different brands.
https://twitter.com/richardursomd/status/1420932325496561671
Nothing to do with the jabs of course, pure coincidence.
Pure coincidence, what else could it be…
Minnesota woman – Baptist missionary – loses both hands and legs following second Pfizer shot
https://twitter.com/chrostophmarkos/status/1420961113622077445
How do we counter basic science disinformation?
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-07-vaccine-resistant-covid-strains-emerge.html
Like the above…
It’s obvious that jabbing more than the vulnerable is the best way to breed vax resistance.
We need some activism against this Covid & Climate nonsense
Power On: Wind and Solar Are No Substitute for Real Dependable Energy
https://stopthesethings.com/2021/07/30/power-on-wind-and-solar-are-no-substitute-for-real-dependable-energy/
Stand in South Hill Park Bracknell every Sunday from 10am meet fellow anti lockdown freedom lovers, keep yourself sane, make new friends and have a laugh.
Join our Stand in the Park – Bracknell – Telegram Group
http://t.me/astandintheparkbracknell
My close contacts could include any of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and Matt Hancock. Honest…
The 58,000 that refused… Does that include those that paused, acted like they were thinking, and finally said,
No, we haven’t been anywhere at all in the last few days.”When one of my children tested positive, I told them that the child had only been to school in the last few days. And I said that because the school had already sent the bubble home and I knew that I was not ratting anyone out.
But, because I gave one location, I don’t think that I counted as a refusenik.
How many other thoughtful refuseniks who don’t literally refuse but still don’t give any real information are there?
I’m sure plenty of people interpret things loosely according to the circumstances
World’s worst modellers decided COVID wasnt seasonal
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-07-seasonality-covid-.html
Seems it is. If it’s sunny and drying, COVID is dying.
There may be some here who haven’t seen this yet.
“What Giving Up Your Medical Freedom Is Like”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y2VoZkuRv4
Contact tracers will:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/nhs-test-and-trace-how-it-works
Good tip
I blocked that number ages ago
I tend not to answer the phone to numbers I don’t recognise
I’d be happier if it were tens of millions. It’s heartening but doesn’t seem like many rebels in the greater scheme of things.
‘infected people’…really? Stop talking about human beings like they are simply walking biohazards. The only thing that is contaminated is the brain with Project Fear.
It seems clear to me that those people opening themselves up to the possibility of being pinged (ie keeping the app running on their phones) are happy to be granted 10 days off work at the height of summer. What a great wheeze! It is not that hard to stay off the radar – no app, don’t sign in to places, don’t answer the phone to unknown numbers, don’t test. The only responsibility we have is to stay at home if we feel ill. Do this and the ‘pandemic’ will vanish into thin air.