News Round-Up

A summary of all the most interesting stories that have appeared about the virus in the past 24 hours – not just in Britain, but around the world.

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Bill Grates
Bill Grates
5 years ago

Toby, Toby, come on. You must surely have realised at last that this circus is not going away.

You must know, as those of us here who have been ranting on for 16 months, know that this madness isn’t going to stop until the WHO declares the “pandemic” to be over, and that won’t happen until the people in charge can say mission accomplished.

You and others in the media with any residual self respect could , I say could, even now change the course of this deranged trajectory by standing up for truth.

Investigate the IHR and all the labyrinthine treaties and policies and intergovernmental agreements that are controlling this global takeover.
Draw attention to all that you must know is wrong.

NHSX isn’t going to work .

UBI isn’t going to work.

Personally tailored health care and gene therapy isn’t going to work

The mass vaccination of people with experimental therapies is without precedent.

The next phase is a “cyber attack” on the world financial institutions leading to huge and catastrophic consequences for innocent people and their money.

Vax passports and ID passports are going to mean the end , the end of our and your personal autonomy… Read more »

Nikola.Tesla
Nikola.Tesla
5 years ago
Reply to  Bill Grates

So easy to read the script isn’t it. I cannot fathom why people are still in denial. I know, propaganda, but we’ve been subject to that as well. Sometimes I fear sites like these are just to herd the descenters into one area away from those they could reach out to. Skeptic of the skeptics. Who watches the watchmen. Etc. Even so, it is good to know there are others that can see what is going on. Daily mail comments, ironically the only free speech newspaper it seems, give some hope based on the likes numbers. People are smelling a rat now.

They have planned this for a very long time. Written about their depopulation dreams in books and clearly listed them in UN agendas. Yet people think that the rich and powerful, wouldn’t want to stay rich and powerful. That’s a conspiracy theory.

This is clearly getting very serious before the end of the year.

RickH
RickH
5 years ago
Reply to  Nikola.Tesla

“I cannot fathom why people are still in denial”

Basically simple – a massive (almost) all-embracing psy-op using widespread corruption. Derren Brown on speed.

Nikola.Tesla
Nikola.Tesla
5 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I know, but even some skeptics still can’t see the road laid out in front of them.

If you see it in another country. Expect it here. This is a global takeover.

I understand, it’s truly disgusting in terms of the lack of free speech. No debates anywhere on tv, the god of the masses. Facebook now turning into a commie self report your friends and neighbours platform. Echo chambers everywhere.

There are only a few ways out I see:

Mass civil disobedience, which requires the common man to wake up.

Destroy the internet infrastructure. Back to analgoue.

All out war.

I want the first. I expect none.

Just thought, musks “internet everywhere” just got a whole lot darker in my head.

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
5 years ago
Reply to  Nikola.Tesla

Agree entirely.

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
5 years ago
Reply to  Bill Grates

What’s coming is genocide and the death of humanity.

Norman
Norman
5 years ago

It seems fairly clear that Boris’s apparent backtrack is simply to calm the reaction to being given freedom, ensuring that at least a part of the population doesn’t go over the top with celebrations.
Given that they are saying that the “wave” has peaked and add in the fact that it is mostly affecting the young and vaccine resistant ethnic groups, and these are now increasing their vaccine take up, then I don’t see where the new “victims” are going to come from.
Also expect to see a quick down-turn in the number of tests conducted once school quit.

RickH
RickH
5 years ago
Reply to  Norman

“It seems fairly clear that Boris’s apparent backtrack is simply to calm the reaction to being given freedom”

FFS! ‘Given freedom’? I think the actual term is ‘throw off illegitimate shackles’.

And, even accepting your premise at face value – what you mean is Mr Toad is once again sitting in the middle of the road going ‘Poop,Poop’ after his latest fantasy about an easy exit from the biggest post-war cock-up of government. Of course, it’s absolutely true to his record of never facing up to difficult moral decisions.

Marmalade
Marmalade
5 years ago

The vaccine pass is worthless, you can get one even if you test positive.

According to https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/covid-pass/, you can get a pass by simply reporting the result of an unsupervised LFT at home test. This relies on the honesty of the individual involved.

There’s nothing to stop them reporting a positive test as ‘negative’ or not even taking the test at all and just pretending it was negative.

DISCLAIMER: I’m not encourging anyone to do anything illegal or ‘wrong’, I’m just saying what I’m seeing.

Norman
Norman
5 years ago
Reply to  Marmalade

I don’t think there is any law against it.

KidFury
KidFury
5 years ago
Reply to  Marmalade

Precisely, the entire thing is fucking theatre

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
5 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

‘Theatre’, is bang-on. 100% apt/appropriate definition.
Bull’s-eye.

JayBee
JayBee
5 years ago
Reply to  Marmalade

Which makes it very obvious that this is not about health. It can’t be, because the tests are completely useless anyway even if not faked (CDC: bin them) and if anything, only the vaccinated can now be asymptomatically transmissive and should be tested.
This is therefore solely about participating and subjecting yourself to the control tool and process, about the registration of the bogus/imagined result.
For the obvious reasons, to fake consent and acceptance, ensure obedience, enable further coercive requirements like additional shots, and, ultimately, sanctions.

RickH
RickH
5 years ago
  • “More than two million clinically vulnerable people will be advised to continue minimising social contact until the third wave of the virus subsides;

Errr … sorry to be awkward – but what ‘third wave’? I know my eyesight isn’t what it was, but it’s not that bad.

Once again – a manufactured fantasy. It’s so bloody obvious that I am half tempted to believe that Mr Toad really doesn’t know his arse from his elbow – it’s such a patently stupid idea – and is indeed pushed around by the latest idiot to fart nonsense in his face.

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
5 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Rick, full disclosure: I appreciate, and disapprove of, your posts in roughly equal measure.
This post, I very much appreciate. 🙂

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
5 years ago

Rejoice, for I have meditated upon these matters … and I am now able to impart the solution to our woes.

We hold the key to unlock the chains of our misery and despair.

In times of old, words were very different; more rigid. Over the course of time, we have advanced, and so to has our language – becoming vastly more flexible in turn.

Herein lies the key: we are prisoners – and the jailor is none other than our own pedantry. Cast aside these outmoded desires and expectations for ‘truth’, and your shackles will fall away and disappear.

TLDR:
In a nutshell guys, we should cut Boris* etc. some slack, and be a bit more forgiving when they use such language as ‘three weeks to flatten the curve’, ‘no vax passports’, ,’Freedom Day’, all restrictions’, ‘irreversible’, ‘encourage’, and such like.

If we could all just take a much more relaxed approach, instead of jumping on their on every word, getting all nit-picky, then we wouldn’t get ourselves unecessarily worked up all the time. Simple really.

* intentional use of first name only: added value 🙂 .

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
5 years ago

For the downvoters:
My post was fully tongue-in-cheek. I was being highly sarcastic. I was taking the piss.

——

Oh, just noticed a typo in my previous post – 3rd para: so to should read so too.

J4mes
J4mes
5 years ago

Just finished writing to my MP in a futile attempt to persuade him to vote against mandatory ‘vaccines’. I don’t even get a courtesy holding email anymore, never mind a written response – he’s probably blocked my email address, which is very unfair. I still haven’t called him a lying slime-ball who’s job it is to prop up a criminal regime with his unebbing support, sucking on the teat of the public purse while the victims of his decisions are forced to continue paying his wages.

He, like all the MPs in Westminster, have been put there because they’re dependable and pose zero risk of derailing the conspiracy they’ve been baking for years to crush the general population of this country, while their counterparts do the same in their respective countries around the civilised world.

He has voted in favour of everything this government has imposed on this country since March last year. I hope to see him amongst his fellow criminals being served the justice he deserves before my time comes to pass.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
5 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

The time has come for everyone to “nudge” their MP whenever you see them.

Don’t shake hands just give them a little shoulder barge and say “nudge”.

Perhaps they will get the message…

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
5 years ago

Can anyone in a few words as possible, tell me where we’re at, at the moment? I’ve totally lost track now because I can’t be bothered to pay any more attention. Do we need papers for anything yet? Or half a dozen vials in us yet, to get papers? Seriously, if you’re as bored and fed up as I am you probably won’t bother responding.

Julian
Julian
5 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

No papers for anything domestic. Yes. Bored and fed up!

RickH
RickH
5 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Yes – I can’t even be arsed to write to my irremediably thick, coat-tail hanging MP.

swedenborg
swedenborg
5 years ago

“The equation is simple. The more we vaccinate, the less space we leave this virus to circulate.” This phrase from Macron is already a ridiculous statement having now the facts from Israel (way ahead of any country) in mass vaccination. Vaccines is not sterilising, is not stopping transmission in a meaningful way (never promised by Pfizer) and vaccinated can spread C 19. But so far they seem to lessen hospitalizations, ICU usage and deaths in elderly (if not this all is caused by the milder delta strain).All those in risk groups above also need a booster.
This is the most devasting blow to the notion that mass vaccination of healthy people will stop transmission. We also have the risk of selecting the next vaccine resistant strain even faster.
A gigantic mistake to go from selective vaccination to mass vaccination. The responsibility for that fatal decision with rising side effects in young and healthy squarely is on the shoulders of the epidemiologists in charge. Big Pharma did not take that decision. They want to sell the vaccine in maximum but the green light for this was taken by politicians advised by these epidemiologists. Those people with their tarnished reputation with useless LD… Read more »

ellie-em
ellie-em
5 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

My thoughts are that Big Pharma are very much involved in the decisions and are at the fore front, in league with the perpetrators of this crime against humanity.

RickH
RickH
5 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

“The responsibility for that fatal decision with rising side effects in young and healthy squarely is on the shoulders of the epidemiologists in charge.”

Spot on. Epidemiology, like Public Health, has been revealed as a repository for a lot of crap science and scientists, and not subject to critical review. It is, indeed, a case of the idiots being allowed charge of the asylum.

This is really serious, since it obviously blots out the work of genuine scientists in these fields.

However, the influence of Big Pharma in creating the exploitative situation shouldn’t be ignored.

eastender53
eastender53
5 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

Macron has been told he’s not hitting his KPIs for poisoning his electorate. Knowing what happens to presidents who don’t toe the ‘Great Reset’ line he has chosen to hit the French where it hurts, the restaurant. Make no mistake, it will happen here. Those of us who choose to remain free will be under house arrest and receive our weekly ration of (plant based) food delivered by space suited courier, at grossly inflated prices. Of course no alcohol.

JayBee
JayBee
5 years ago
Reply to  eastender53

As the Minneapolis FED admitted last week when announcing its jab mandate ‘if only 50% were vaccinated, we couldn’t do that, but now…’.

If the supposedly vaccine sceptical French had any sense and a spine, they would not cdush the booking sites but stay firm for a few more months and see their restaurants go broke.
(Only) That would then starve and rattle the jabbed too and could therefore have an impact that made them change their policies.

Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago
Reply to  eastender53

Oh, good! I was worried I was going to face choices between begging, stealing, starving…

JayBee
JayBee
5 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/vaccines-reasons-for-concern-part
He comes to the same conclusion.
As I said before, the case data signals an initial spike, then a falloff and equilibrium, and then the over-vaccination beyond the vulnerable creates and drives variants and their transmission again.
And again, VandenBossche predicted just that and is due apologies.

peyrole
peyrole
5 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Its no accident. You don’t think the people behind this don’t know that? Its the pharma business model, keep people needing interventions ad infinitum.

Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

Who work for ICL, which is funded by Bill Gates, and has close links to the CCP? Whatever’s going on, seems quite murky to me

steadfastandy
steadfastandy
5 years ago

We’re going to be put under house arrest, AGAIN, this Autumn. This is parole/day release. My question, again, why keep looking for something we don’t want to find?

RickH
RickH
5 years ago

Look at the actual data; then look and listen to Johnson (painful as that may be).

Then – reach for a straight jacket and a padded cell to remedy his ailment.

KidFury
KidFury
5 years ago

There are some interesting developments happening, seemingly all around the same time. France is saing unvaxxed will basically be unable to partake in society, Ireland are going the same way. Today Greece are now saying unvaxxed wont be able to go to bars, restaurants etc. Here we are doing the same but slowly slowly catchy monkey. All for a push for a vaccine that just reduces symptoms a bit.

what the fuck is going on?

Dave Angel Eco Warrier
Dave Angel Eco Warrier
5 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

Whatever it is it isn’t good.

ellie-em
ellie-em
5 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

It’s still fear mongering, to ramp up the fear. Pushing the FOMO – fear of missing out – on daily life activities angle.

Hold the line, we must not give in!

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
5 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

Well, I have this “conspiracy theory” that this all about the Globalist Plan for Agenda 31/30…and so far, it seems to coming true!

KidFury
KidFury
5 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

and every govt is in on it? other than the swedes?

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
5 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

Genocide.

miketa1957
miketa1957
5 years ago

SAGE modelling suggests that it is realistic to expect between 100 to 200 daily fatalities across the UK at the worst of the current outbreak and 1,000 to 2,000 hospital admissions, MailOnline reports

So when (OK, if) this turns out wrong, will we finally kick the SAGE modellers into touch …. somehow, I doubt it.

RickH
RickH
5 years ago
Reply to  miketa1957

Well – it’d be a first!

BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
5 years ago

Once you accept computer models and simulations as ‘evidence’ of an impending rise in infections you are at the mercy of the quality of the model itself i.e. algorithm, and the quality of the data being fed into the model.

Me, being a technical and scientific person by profession, would rather use real world information and historical data as a more reliable platform from which to derive conclusions, and possible future outcomes. That’s real science- isn’t it?

Clearly this has not been the modus operandi for the past 18 months, and until we have some scientifcally literate and honest politicians in charge, we are going to be at the mercy of politicised scientists and their corrupt practices.

The time for sitting on the fence is over. We have been scammed and abused for too long.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
5 years ago

They’re often not mathematically sound models, just a few buggy spreadsheets written by someone who finds the maths useful (but probably does not understand it).

RickH
RickH
5 years ago

I was having a conversation yesterday with someone who (before the shit-show) had come across an ‘epidemiologist’ and was startled to find that their work re. spread existed purely in the imaginary world of computer modelling, unsullied by much real-world feed-back.

peyrole
peyrole
5 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Much like climatologists ( sorry Rick I know you won’t like that, but its true)

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago

The first view of GB news and not surprised to see them pushing the govt line. How ‘refreshing’.

Needless to say our esteemed host pushing the vaccine success when the video below of Dr David Martin and Reiner Fuellmich blows this conspiracy out of the water.

How long until that video makes in to discussion ATL?

Sadly everything in the little clip above just screams ‘controlled opposition’.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsDlHprql-g&t=24s

D B
D B
5 years ago

How is it that i feel so so depressed about this – I feel like we’re in a WORSE place now than 3 weeks ago when we flattened the curve.

WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
5 years ago
Reply to  D B

I don’t know if this was intentional, but I found this very funny.

D B
D B
5 years ago
Reply to  WeAllFallDown

Well it’s nice to have brought a bit of joy somewhere in this mire!

It was intended to be a bit tongue in cheek

Adamb
Adamb
5 years ago
Reply to  D B

Same here.

RickH
RickH
5 years ago
Reply to  D B

There is a truth about this. To some of us, the psy-op manipulation is so obvious that it’s almost boring to be right once again in our predictions. But the continuing supreme gullibility of the majority of ‘yeh-sayers’ who just don’t get it even now is one more notch in the downward spiral of negativity.

mm99
mm99
5 years ago

I’m ready to join a terrorist cell but for now, a few practical questions:

  1. what is the provision for people who do not have smart phones?
  2. is it possible to just carry around a negative LF test, or does this require the passport?
  3. is there any reason to hope that like Israel, everyone will have it so the gatekeepers just start waving people through?
stewart
stewart
5 years ago
Reply to  mm99

On number 3, that’s little consolation. Living in a system in which you are constantly breaking unimposed rules is exhausting. It means that at any time the rules can be used arbitrarily against you.

That is in fact one of the forms of quiet repression of the modern state. There are so many laws and rules that it is impossible to know what they are and follow them. So you are constantly exposed to getting into trouble for not following rules you aren’t even aware of.

And from time to time, some authority or some bad-meaning individual will use this against someone.

Old Maid
Old Maid
5 years ago

For pity’s sake, what did you expect? Of course, it’s all hedged with ifs, buts and maybes. You can expect all sorts of hedging and rowing back, especially between now and the public enquiry. They’ve got backsides to cover. Government and Whitehall are all invested in this and have much to fudge and cover up.

I hold no brief for the clown Johnson, but this is the best we could have hoped for at this stage. So far as I am concerned, the legal requirements for masking, social distancing and most of the covid theatre has gone and I am going to be acting accordingly. You hand wring if you wish.

And I couldn’t give a stuff about the jabs. Have one; don’t have one: I have no wish whatsoever to go to any place where the jabbed hang out (apart from anything else, do they actually have any other conversation other than jabs?).

Yes, there will undoubtedly be difficulties for us in the future, but that’s what we must be prepared for if we are going to stand up for what’s right.

In the meantime, I have a life to live.

Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
5 years ago
Reply to  Old Maid

No, it is not the best we could have hoped for because Kim Jong Johnson is hopeless

RickH
RickH
5 years ago
Reply to  Old Maid

” I have a life to live”

Yes. Precisely. But only saddos could call this environment ‘life’.

I can avoid most confrontation with the dictatorship, if I wish.

But I have relatively little time left on this planet, and what I see does not equate to ‘life’ as we know it, Spock. And that matters.

ellie-em
ellie-em
5 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Loss of freedom and rights; ongoing coercion, fear mongering and threats; loss of dreams and ambitions – I agree, that’s not life, it’s just joyless existence.

Milos
Milos
5 years ago

Here’s a nice one from off-guardian

fuck vacpass.jpg
SueJM
SueJM
5 years ago

So in all probability in lieu of domestic passports the unvaxxed will be required to show a recent negative test result or be tested on the door in order to enter a venue. Meaning they want folk to become so fed up with having their noses jabbed they will give in to the vax. We must refuse the nose jabs too. I’d agree to spit on the device though!

DanClarke
DanClarke
5 years ago

Is Johnson being coerced? Is Whitty, who at first, said it would affect very few of us. They obviously hadnt been told the plan then. Macron is saying only the ‘immune’ will be able to enter but who is immune, not the people vaccinated according to the vaccine manufacturers. That leads us to only those with Vaccine ID which has nothing to do with health and everything to do with ID

Julian
Julian
5 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

“Is Johnson being coerced?”. Who knows, but if he is then he is guilty of treason by dint of aiding our enemies.

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
5 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Oh he’s definitely guilty of treason.

stewart
stewart
5 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Were the camp commandants coerced by the Nazi leadership?

Does it matter?

Garfy1967
Garfy1967
5 years ago

Can any of you good good people tell me when the next march is in London please?

mm99
mm99
5 years ago
Reply to  Garfy1967

July 24th.

Norman
Norman
5 years ago

When will the penny drop with Johnson that SAGE modelling has never been accurate.

Lucan Grey
Lucan Grey
5 years ago
Reply to  Norman

It hasn’t dropped that none of the economic modelling government has relied on for decades has been accurate.

So I wouldn’t hold your breath.

It’s not a matter of accuracy. All that matters is whether people believe them or not.

Rogerborg
Rogerborg
5 years ago
Reply to  Norman

It has been very useful though, for his masters’ goals.

Julian
Julian
5 years ago
Reply to  Norman

Don’t you think he knows that? He’s not retarded.

RickH
RickH
5 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Weeelll … depends how you define ‘retarded’. Much of his personality seems not to have developed beyond the ‘Me, Me, Me’ stage of infancy. And I doubt he has much innate genuine grasp of rational scientific method – his bag has always been the authorship of fiction.

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
5 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Yes. He’s OK at authoring fiction but the fictions he concocts are shite.

Julian
Julian
5 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I’m sure you are right in what you say about his. It’s possible he simply hasn’t thought about it, but struggle to believe even he has been so inattentive.

But he’s a political animal so there will have been conversations between him and his advisers and the inner cabal about how things will play with the public, actions based on the modelled predictions. They must have considered whether the models were accurate, not because they care per se, but they will have thought about whether the public and the media would but it.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
5 years ago
Reply to  Norman

It’s been accurately wrong, just it’s been useful in “nudging” public opinion when you have an MSM that changes the past to head to the unchangeable future.

Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
5 years ago
Reply to  Norman

Never, he is that innumerate and, besides, the great fat communist fraud loves locking down.

Rogerborg
Rogerborg
5 years ago

Social Credit Score Apps for hospitality and stadia.
Then for non-essential retail.
Then for supermarkets to Save Our Christmas.
You do want to Save Our Christmas, don’t you citizen?
[Digital pen poises over Social Credit Score]

All utterly predictable, and predicted. The total surveillance, total control State will be outsourced.

The question is: what do we do about it?

Boycotts? Well, sure, but there will be no liberty-loving alternatives. The “nudging” will very quickly turn into dictates on a sector by sector basis. All hospitality, then all venues, then all retail, will start demanding our Social Credit Score apps in solid tranches, without exception.

Protests? Do our rulers care? I don’t mean our political classes or even Witless and Unbalanced, I mean the oligarchs who hand them their orders. They live in secure mansions, fly on private jets, and dine in waited on by their staff, or clear out restaurants. They never have to see, hear or smell us, so what do they care if we march or even smash a few windows (that we’ll end up paying for)?

We can’t vote our way out of this either, since all options on the ballot are Party of Davos.

Democracy has… Read more »

prod_squadron
prod_squadron
5 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Moving abroad or getting a degoogled android phone and gaming your online identity to contaminate all the data that is already being accumulated on us by data companies.

Rogerborg
Rogerborg
5 years ago
Reply to  prod_squadron

I’m loathe to flee, but becoming a refugee from a despotic regime is the zeitgeist of the age.

iane
iane
5 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Yes, but whither?

ellie-em
ellie-em
5 years ago
Reply to  iane

Out of the frying pan into the fire comes to mind. I’m not sure there are many, if any, places left that haven’t signed up to the Covid panscam.
There were a handful whose presidents weren’t following the narrative. Said presidents are now dead.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
5 years ago
Reply to  prod_squadron

Exactly, put the poo in the icecream data. See how much marketeers want to eat.

Nikola.Tesla
Nikola.Tesla
5 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

The proles are useless sheep. 1984 had it right, without the masses we get no where. They’re too ignorant and stupid, can’t think for themselves and won’t wake up. Once they offer free money “UBI” after crashing the economy, many will protect the system instead. They’re being herded into “collectivism”, it’s not for me, it’s for the group and they will not allow outsiders.

They’ll mark us next. They’ll try to nudge us to this jab with the passports. When they doesn’t work they’ll lock us out the system. When someone pushes back they’ll mark us as domestic terrorists. Then the strong arms and knocks at the door at 3am come.

Same game different decade.

The only way to counter this is with a lot of violence, globally. It isn’t a UK game. The people are too stupid to understand and still give government the benefit of doubt… So we’re fucked. We’re not violent people, we see people as human and in reality, it’s almost too late. I strongly suggest making your peace with that fact. See you in the gulag.
…
If it saves one 90 year old life.

RickH
RickH
5 years ago
Reply to  Nikola.Tesla

You underestimate the role of blanket propaganda. Yes – intellectual dimness and gullibility play a part, but I have never known an environment as bad as this one for blocking information.

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
5 years ago
Reply to  Nikola.Tesla

The future is not what I will be a part of.

DanClarke
DanClarke
5 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Man plans God laughs

Tinxx
Tinxx
5 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Its always been about the creation of a digital/biological state. The key was to establish a common data identifier per person. That number is able to link all digital information together. That number is your NHS number.

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
5 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Sadly, I think your summary hits the nail on the head.

peyrole
peyrole
5 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Well , what are your options?

wryobserver
5 years ago

It’s not really fair to blame Boris Johnson for landing us in a ditch when he has the SAGE committee with its hands on the wheel and a myriad of counter scientists and economists screaming contrary advice from the back seat. Trying to pick the least bad way to go is a hard task.

Rogerborg
Rogerborg
5 years ago
Reply to  wryobserver

Can’t quite remember voting for any of SAGE, chap. I was under the impression that we were governed by elected politicians, not appointed communist doom wizards. Perhaps I just have brain fog from the long coofs and have forgotten.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
5 years ago
Reply to  wryobserver

Fuck off

ellie-em
ellie-em
5 years ago
Reply to  wryobserver

Johnson is the Prime Minister.

He takes FULL responsibility.

KidFury
KidFury
5 years ago
Reply to  wryobserver

Yes, just like when my young kids keep pestering me for ice-creams all day, and I give in, not just once, but every time. Cant blame me, can you? It’s the kids fault.

RickH
RickH
5 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

Good analogy for how to duck responsibility and create an on-going fuck-up.

(… and that’s a charitable interpretation).

Julian
Julian
5 years ago
Reply to  wryobserver

Hard tasks come with the job of PM
The Nuremberg defence doesn’t work if you’re in charge

iane
iane
5 years ago
Reply to  wryobserver

Probably the stupidest comment I have ever read here – truly BBC grade idiocy.

Julian
Julian
5 years ago
Reply to  wryobserver

Dear wryobserver. I presume you are here because you are a lockdown sceptic. That’s a good start.

Please consider carefully what you’ve written. With all respect, on its face it is nonsense. Being PM is obviously a “hard task”. Dealing with advisers who may be incompetent or dishonestly pushing agendas is basic stuff for anyone in a leadership position.

But beyond this, your instincts to apologise for the PM are a big part of why we are where we are. I assume you may be a Tory voter/supporter or at least think they and/or the PM are OK, generally. That’s your choice and let’s not get into the rights and wrongs of that. But if you’re a sceptic, you cannot possibly excuse what the govt have done on any level. Demanding courage in the face of difficulty from political leaders has to be the only position. We cannot keep voting for the least bad party. No sceptic should now ever support any of the mainstream parties ever again, unless and until there is a complete purge of the guilty men and women and an abject apology – things that will almost certainly never happen.

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RickH
RickH
5 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Remember Attlee’s blunt response to why he sacked a particular minister :

“Not up to it”

That’s what the job is about – and applies to SAGE as a body – and Johnson, a year and a half on, is still allowing Ferguson et al. near the decision-making process.

Jeez. If I can make forecasts of the trend of deaths massively more accurate than any of the SAGE etc. models (admittedly without being dependent on big pharma funding and with some knowledgeable use of statistics and scientific method), what does that say about the quality of their advice?

jsampson45
jsampson45
5 years ago
Reply to  Julian

“No sceptic should…” Being in the minorlty, sceptics’ votes do not matter.

Julian
Julian
5 years ago
Reply to  jsampson45

We’re in the minority at present, but you have to start somewhere. We may never be in the majority, but one has to carry on.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
5 years ago
Reply to  wryobserver

Sorry, but I’ve heard the “But Boris is doing his best! ” bleat far too many times this last year as it is. Do people still really think that Boris actually CARES about them?!!!

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
5 years ago
Reply to  wryobserver

Ship’s Captain runs ship aground, blames Chart Committee, bourbonobserver agrees with Captain.

RickH
RickH
5 years ago
Reply to  wryobserver

“Trying to pick the least bad way to go is a hard task.“

One things for sure – Johnson’s capacity to pick the worst way to go is an unfailing instinct (or perverse will).

What sane, rational and knowledgeable person with the power would not have disbanded SAGE yonks ago, given its absolutely appalling track record, and the presence in it of confirmed psycho/sociopaths and plain nutters and incompetents? It would be quite easy to convene an advisory corps of the sane, intelligent and knowledgeable.

Mind you, all those who voted for him in light of common knowledge have some responsibility.

stewart
stewart
5 years ago
Reply to  wryobserver

EVEN if you take your not entirely unreasonable point that Boris Johnson is faced with difficult choices, it doesn’t excuse him from doing the wrong thing and even less so from trashing freedom and causing untold economic destruction.

As Sir Humphrey famously said to Jim Hacker:

“Well, it’s your job Prime Minister and you wanted it.”

Boris Johnson is entirely to blame.

Emmerich
Emmerich
5 years ago
Reply to  wryobserver

Defending Boris Johnson by pointing out that he’s a weak leader really isn’t the defence you think it is

dismalswamp
dismalswamp
5 years ago

These freedoms do not belong to this government. They are not theirs to give. When will people realize that peaceful protests achieve nothing? The BLM riots got (the wrong) things done because they scared these spineless fools in power.
The government should always be scared of the people, not the othwr way around. It is war, and resistance is needed. Stop complying, stop getting tested, start pulling down their stupid signs and stickers at every opportunity, ditch the masks and don’t shy away from public confrontation with people.
We can take it back by force and we will.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
5 years ago
Reply to  dismalswamp

The government have finally announced the formality that the people are owned by the government and we work for the convenience of the bureaucracy rather than the other way around.

Julian
Julian
5 years ago

“Boris’s warning that the move will be reviewed in September and restrictions could return”

Is that Alexander “Boris” Johnson, closet libertarian? Surely not. Is Toby Young seriously “disappointed”? How much longer do we need to drift on for those clinging to the hope that the PM will come good realise it’s not going to happen?

SilentP
SilentP
5 years ago

“Ministers prepared to push through regulations today requiring care home staff to have the Covid jab”

Please can someone point me to the detail of the legislation scheduled to be pushed through Parliament today.
Thank you.

This could have massive implications for my family.

My wife may have to leave her job, but that is far less important than the effect on us visiting our learning disabled son and him visiting home – something he has not been able to do since the first lockdown.

Looking at the bigger picture this legislation could cause the collapse of the care home sector. It is already struggling to supply sufficient staffing. Many people are doing double shifts where my wife works. Non care staff who have been asked to start doing care work are leaving. People are not applying for vacancies in spite of extensive advertising.

prod_squadron
prod_squadron
5 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Here’s a link to the draft legislation:

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2021/9780348224993/contents

SilentP
SilentP
5 years ago
Reply to  prod_squadron

Thank you – much appreciated

prod_squadron
prod_squadron
5 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

My reading of it is family and friends can visit unjabbed. It only covers England. It’s carers who have to be jabbed unless the jab is officially unsuitable for them (eg allergic to jab ingredients such as polysorbate 80 or PEG).

SilentP
SilentP
5 years ago
Reply to  prod_squadron

Have had a quick look and that is my understanding too.

Did not spot anything so far covering residents’ activity outside the home, so that might continue to be determined by the care organisation. When I enquired a couple of weeks ago the first thing mentioned was vaccination of those being visited. However, I do not think that was intended to be mandatory. Will contact the home today.

prod_squadron
prod_squadron
5 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

I read it as unjabbed residents don’t fall foul of this legislation just by going in and out of the residence.

On top of that, it doesn’t apply to the surrounding grounds, for what that’s worth (summer entertainers, outdoor therapists???)

prod_squadron
prod_squadron
5 years ago
Reply to  prod_squadron

Last point, for example when care homes are left dangerously short-staffed risking either residents or the staff themselves, at a pinch I’d say this draft legis would allow unjabbed carers to come in and provide “reasonably necessary“ “emergency assistance“ (this isn’t about the emergency services who have their own exemption section).

thedarkhorse
thedarkhorse
5 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

I suspect that might be part of the Almighty’s plan….whether you believe in him or not.Yes there will be people still prepared to be jabbed and carry on working in the sector, but it will never cope with greatly reduced numbers. I’d certainly be resigning if I was told to get jabbed or else.

JayBee
JayBee
5 years ago
Reply to  thedarkhorse

The whole plan is to reduce average life expectancy and thereby make caring and care homes obsolete anyway.

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
5 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Correct.

Everything done by government since 2020 has been intended to reduce life expectancy, to kill and impoverish.

Every single NPI has essentially been introduced with the intention of causing death.

Genocide on a worldwide scale.

Trojan House
Trojan House
5 years ago

Just watching a CBS news station from Boston and they are saying that the people getting the virus seem to be the people who are vaccinated. The most vaxed nations are seeing rising Covid numbers. I wonder why.

kate
kate
5 years ago
Reply to  Trojan House

Are these people ill or are these just positive test results (which mean very little)
It would be interesting if vaxxination/injection makes you more ill as this could be some kind of ADE showing up.

ellie-em
ellie-em
5 years ago
Reply to  Trojan House

Tim Spector Re post vaccination symptoms and concerns about people deleting the ‘app’:

https://mobile.twitter.com/timspector/status/1414160177419390978

Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago

“Irish pm will not be granting freedom”.

Well, right or wrong, I must admit there’s plenty of supporters of MMT – and yet another traitor in the “Free State”.

JayBee
JayBee
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

None of them can grant freedom.
Freedom is always there, it’s our inalienable right.
They can and do steal it from us illegally from time to time, and sadly, we often let them take it instead of immediately fighting to keep it.
Which is when and why we later have to rise up, ignore them and their restrictions and thereby slowly take it back again.
A thief will neither return his bounty, nor can he ‘grant’ it back to its owner.

Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago

“Did lockdown football cost England”?

The restrictions sure as hell cost Scotland, with star player Billy Gilmour missing a match not for injury or suspension but for a dodgy test result. The nasty nats still love these restrictions though…

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Did the vaccine cost Denmark a player?

J4mes
J4mes
5 years ago

The “fact-checkers” say no, so by default the answer is: most probably. He’s not dead, but he’s ominously quiet about the reason he just nearly died.

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